Windows 7 Upgrade Offer

I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade
and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I
install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer).
The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
version of the OS?

Thanks.

 

Yes. See

On 27/06/2009 20:09, Lynne wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade
> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I
> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer).
> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
> version of the OS?
>
> Thanks.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OEXElz19JHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Yes. See
>
> On 27/06/2009 20:09, Lynne wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That's for Vista. The possibility of that procedure working with
Win 7 Upg ver is unknown. MS may close that loophole.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade
>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I
>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer).
>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>> version of the OS?
>>
>> Thanks. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Dominic Payer <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Yes. See <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You are assuming that what works for Vista will work for Win 7.

Not very smart on your part.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>On 27/06/2009 20:09, Lynne wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade
>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I
>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer).
>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>> version of the OS?
>>
>> Thanks.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

No one will be able to say for certain until the release of the final
version.

"Lynne" <LynneL@aol.com> wrote in message
news:edPtbr19JHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade and
> ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I install
> the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer). The question
> I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade version of the OS?
>
> Thanks. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

It must be possible because XP qualifies for upgrade versions but cannot
be upgraded without a clean install.

Until the retail versions are available we won't know the procedure.
Either the Vista procedure or requiring a valid product key from a
qualifying product is likely.


On 27/06/2009 21:07, Ian D wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Dominic Payer"<dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:OEXElz19JHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Yes. See
>>
>> On 27/06/2009 20:09, Lynne wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> That's for Vista. The possibility of that procedure working with
> Win 7 Upg ver is unknown. MS may close that loophole.
>
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade
>>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I
>>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer).
>>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>>> version of the OS?
>>>
>>> Thanks.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23mbOOD39JHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> It must be possible because XP qualifies for upgrade versions but cannot
> be upgraded without a clean install.
>
> Until the retail versions are available we won't know the procedure.
> Either the Vista procedure or requiring a valid product key from a
> qualifying product is likely.
>
>
> On 27/06/2009 21:07, Ian D wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That's an upgrade from XP, which is part of the official upgrade
path.

The procedure you quoted is a method by which a Vista
upgrade version can be clean installed by using itself as the
qualifying OS. In other words, with a little extra work, an upgrade
version could be made to install like a full version of Vista.

This is where a copy of Win2k is very handy. You can do a quick
install of Win2k, then clean install Win 7 over it.


<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Dominic Payer"<dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:OEXElz19JHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Yes. See
>>>
>>> On 27/06/2009 20:09, Lynne wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> That's for Vista. The possibility of that procedure working with
>> Win 7 Upg ver is unknown. MS may close that loophole.
>>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade
>>>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I
>>>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer).
>>>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>>>> version of the OS?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Well, that really kind of stinks because the offer is for the upgrade
versions and its only good until July 11, I believe.

Richard G. Harper wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> No one will be able to say for certain until the release of the final
> version.
>
> "Lynne" <LynneL@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:edPtbr19JHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade
>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I
>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer).
>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>> version of the OS?
>>
>> Thanks. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

'Windows 7 - Buy and download from Microsoft Store'
()




- Running Windows Vista?
- If you have *Windows Vista*, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade
versions. You *can do a clean install* (back up your files, clean
install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade
(Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).

Hope it helps

SIW2

Lynne;1076594 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Well, that really kind of stinks because the offer is for the upgrade
> versions and its only good until July 11, I believe.
>
> Richard G. Harper wrote:> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > No one will be able to say for certain until the release of the final
> > > version.
> > >
> > > "Lynne" <LynneL@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:edPtbr19JHA.1252@xxxxxx> > > > >
> > > >> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the
> > > upgrade
> > > >> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless
> > > I
> > > >> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade
> > > offer).
> > > >> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
> > > >> version of the OS?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks.> > > > > > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


--
SIW2

 

SIW2 wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> 'Windows 7 - Buy and download from Microsoft Store'
> ()
>
>
>
>
> - Running Windows Vista?
> - If you have *Windows Vista*, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade
> versions. You *can do a clean install* (back up your files, clean
> install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade
> (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).
>
> Hope it helps
>
> SIW2
>
> Lynne;1076594 Wrote: <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Well, that really kind of stinks because the offer is for the upgrade
>> versions and its only good until July 11, I believe.
>>
>> Richard G. Harper wrote:> > > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> No one will be able to say for certain until the release of the final
>>>> version.
>>>>
>>>> "Lynne" <LynneL@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:edPtbr19JHA.1252@xxxxxx> > > > >
>>>>>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the
>>>> upgrade
>>>>>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless
>>>> I
>>>>>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade
>>>> offer).
>>>>>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>>>>>> version of the OS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.> > > > > > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
you cannot upgrade vista premium to windows 7 pro
If you have vista premium you can upgrade only to windows 7 primium
if you have vista pro u can upgrade only to Windows 7 pro.

 

Yes, that does help. I guess I didn't notice the small print.

SIW2 wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> 'Windows 7 - Buy and download from Microsoft Store'
> ()
>
>
>
>
> - Running Windows Vista?
> - If you have *Windows Vista*, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade
> versions. You *can do a clean install* (back up your files, clean
> install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade
> (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).
>
> Hope it helps
>
> SIW2
>
> Lynne;1076594 Wrote: <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Well, that really kind of stinks because the offer is for the upgrade
>> versions and its only good until July 11, I believe.
>>
>> Richard G. Harper wrote:> > > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> No one will be able to say for certain until the release of the final
>>>> version.
>>>>
>>>> "Lynne" <LynneL@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:edPtbr19JHA.1252@xxxxxx> > > > >
>>>>>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the
>>>> upgrade
>>>>>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless
>>>> I
>>>>>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade
>>>> offer).
>>>>>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>>>>>> version of the OS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.> > > > > > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Retail upgrades are transferable between machines. There is already
hardware for which no XP (or W2k) drivers are available.

However it is achieved, it must be possible to complete a re-install
using only the upgrade disk. Ths only thing we don't know for Windows 7
is how that will be done.



On 28/06/2009 00:42, Ian D wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Dominic Payer"<dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23mbOOD39JHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> It must be possible because XP qualifies for upgrade versions but cannot
>> be upgraded without a clean install.
>>
>> Until the retail versions are available we won't know the procedure.
>> Either the Vista procedure or requiring a valid product key from a
>> qualifying product is likely.
>>
>>
>> On 27/06/2009 21:07, Ian D wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> That's an upgrade from XP, which is part of the official upgrade
> path.
>
> The procedure you quoted is a method by which a Vista
> upgrade version can be clean installed by using itself as the
> qualifying OS. In other words, with a little extra work, an upgrade
> version could be made to install like a full version of Vista.
>
> This is where a copy of Win2k is very handy. You can do a quick
> install of Win2k, then clean install Win 7 over it.
>
>
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "Dominic Payer"<dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:OEXElz19JHA.5040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Yes. See
>>>>
>>>> On 27/06/2009 20:09, Lynne wrote:
>>> That's for Vista. The possibility of that procedure working with
>>> Win 7 Upg ver is unknown. MS may close that loophole.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade
>>>>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I
>>>>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer).
>>>>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>>>>> version of the OS?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Dominic Payer <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Retail upgrades are transferable between machines. There is already
>hardware for which no XP (or W2k) drivers are available.
>
>However it is achieved, it must be possible to complete a re-install
>using only the upgrade disk. Ths only thing we don't know for Windows 7
>is how that will be done.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

The ability to do that with Vista was unintended. I'd bet it won't be
possible with Win7.

 

It is essential.

What was sloppy with Vista was the ability to do so without evidence of
ownership of a qualifying upgrade product.



On 28/06/2009 07:48, Manny Weisbord wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Dominic Payer<dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Retail upgrades are transferable between machines. There is already
>> hardware for which no XP (or W2k) drivers are available.
>>
>> However it is achieved, it must be possible to complete a re-install
>> using only the upgrade disk. Ths only thing we don't know for Windows 7
>> is how that will be done.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> The ability to do that with Vista was unintended. I'd bet it won't be
> possible with Win7.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

From the Microsoft store - " If you have Windows Vista, you can purchase
Windows 7 Upgrade versions. You can do a clean install (back up your files,
clean install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade
(Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista). "





"Lynne" <LynneL@aol.com> wrote in message
news:edPtbr19JHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the upgrade and
>ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless I install
>the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade offer). The question
>I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade version of the OS?
>
> Thanks. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

tom wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> SIW2 wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> 'Windows 7 - Buy and download from Microsoft Store'
>> ()
>>
>>
>>
>> - Running Windows Vista?
>> - If you have *Windows Vista*, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade
>> versions. You *can do a clean install* (back up your files, clean
>> install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade
>> (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).
>> Hope it helps
>>
>> SIW2
>>
>> Lynne;1076594 Wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Well, that really kind of stinks because the offer is for the upgrade
>>> versions and its only good until July 11, I believe.
>>>
>>> Richard G. Harper wrote:> > >
>>>>> No one will be able to say for certain until the release of the final
>>>>> version.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Lynne" <LynneL@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:edPtbr19JHA.1252@xxxxxx> > > > >
>>>>>>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the
>>>>> upgrade
>>>>>>> and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install unless
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the upgrade
>>>>> offer).
>>>>>>> The question I have is can a clean install be had with an upgrade
>>>>>>> version of the OS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks.> > > > > > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> you cannot upgrade vista premium to windows 7 pro
> If you have vista premium you can upgrade only to windows 7 primium
> if you have vista pro u can upgrade only to Windows 7 pro.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

No, you can upgrade to any of the equal or higher level Windows Vista
grades of Windows 7. That means you could do an in place upgrade from
Vista Pro to Windows 7 Ultimate.

What you can't do is upgrade from a higher level Vista to a lower level
Windows 7. In those cases you'd have to do a custom installation which
ends up being a clean install. It says it right on Windows 7 page.

"Running Windows Vista? If you have Windows Vista, you can purchase
Windows 7 Upgrade versions.
You can do a clean install (back up your files, clean install, and
reinstall your applications)
or an in-place upgrade (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista)."

It also states it if you run the Windows 7 upgrade advisor program.

 

"Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
news:lg4e45dpk1dsit45m92kvtm9032mof2lib@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Dominic Payer <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>Retail upgrades are transferable between machines. There is already
>>hardware for which no XP (or W2k) drivers are available.
>>
>>However it is achieved, it must be possible to complete a re-install
>>using only the upgrade disk. Ths only thing we don't know for Windows 7
>>is how that will be done.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> The ability to do that with Vista was unintended. I'd bet it won't be
> possible with Win7.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Personally, I don't think it was exactly unintended. MS could have
closed that loophole with SP1 or SP2, but they didn't. I'm sure that
the upgrade loophole resulted in increased sales of Vista to users who
wouldn't otherwise pay the price of a full copy. Also, the full versions
of Vista has never been on sale, but the upgrade versions Home
Premium and Ultimate have been on sale at least a couple of times per
year.

 

Says who? Do you actually thing Microsoft RTM'd it without knowing that
capability was there?



"Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
news:lg4e45dpk1dsit45m92kvtm9032mof2lib@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Dominic Payer <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>Retail upgrades are transferable between machines. There is already
>>hardware for which no XP (or W2k) drivers are available.
>>
>>However it is achieved, it must be possible to complete a re-install
>>using only the upgrade disk. Ths only thing we don't know for Windows 7
>>is how that will be done.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> The ability to do that with Vista was unintended. I'd bet it won't be
> possible with Win7. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Windows 7 Ultimate upgrade will cost the same as Vista Ultimate 64-bit
and be released in October 2009, according to Microsoft South Africa today.

Lynne wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Well, that really kind of stinks because the offer is for the upgrade
> versions and its only good until July 11, I believe.
>
> Richard G. Harper wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> No one will be able to say for certain until the release of the final
>> version.
>>
>> "Lynne" <LynneL@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:edPtbr19JHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I am currently running Vista Ultimate. I got the offer for the
>>> upgrade and ran the adviser, which says I have to do a clean install
>>> unless I install the Ultimate version (which isn't part of the
>>> upgrade offer). The question I have is can a clean install be had
>>> with an upgrade version of the OS?
>>>
>>> Thanks. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->