Which Anti Virus Works Best With Vista

ShadoShryke;1086192 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Ooo. Good site. I forgot that one.
> Thanks, whs.
>
> ShadoShryke
> (AKA James Walker)
>
> "whs" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
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> > > Brandon Mahler;1082599 Wrote:> > > > >
> > > >> Just wondering> > > >
> > >
> > > There is no "Best". At best, there is a "Best of the month". You<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > can<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > check this website for comparisons: 'AV-Comparatives -<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > Independent Tests<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > of Anti-Virus Software - Welcome to AV-Comparatives.org'
> > > ('AV-Comparatives - Independent Tests of Anti-Virus Software -<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > Welcome to AV-Comparatives.org'
> > ())<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
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> > > whs > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


You are welcome. This discussion is getting a little too far for my
taste. That's why I did not repost recently. I guess everybody can have
enough rope to hang himself. I noticed in many discussions regarding
security programs that people are very opinionated and are willing to
ignore serious analysis and the facts.
Many think that if they did not catch any malware for a while, that
their security program is doing a good job. That's like thinking if you
did not have an accident with your car, that your car is 100% shielded
against accidents.


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whs

 

"ShadoShryke" <greyhwk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> CA eTrust AV had this too, if you took the link from the Microsoft
> Security Solutions Suggestions site (linked earlier in this thread
> cluster).
>
> I think now they are only 3-6 months free, and Avast is now heading
> towards charging too.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Even when you've been a loyal user for many years? <H>.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Companies in doing business in America can only give out free for so long
> before it impacts their production or products.
>
> ShadoShryke
> (AKA James Walker)
>
>
>
>
> "Jim" <bojimbo261@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:llj4555nkjf19tapf004lh6k3e5gtdq42j@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:09:17 -0800, "Brandon Mahler"
>> <mahlerbrandon@gmail.com> wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>>Just wondering<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Whichever one(s) you feel happy with . I use free Avast ( audio and
>> visual warning ) , used to use AVG but had trouble with the updates .
>> Avast has free registration , and it`s registration every year ( still
>> free though )<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:53:21 -0400, "ShadoShryke"
<greyhwk@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Symantec and McAfee have been industry leaders since the early 90s and
>continue to be. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

But their packages are resource hogging, system slowing, pigs. That's
why most smart folks use something else.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>And yes, the majority of Vista complaints on the net were by those that did
>not like the fact that they could not do the pirating of that OS, or that
>did not like change. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Nonsense. It provides no improvements over XP, while lacking many of
its feature, and while providing significantly less performance. It's
also bug ridden, compatible with far less hardware, and requires
significantly more system power to operate at the same speed.

That's why people don't like it.

 

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:58:46 -0400, "ShadoShryke"
<greyhwk@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Rumor has been out for over a year that Avast is looking at no longer doing
>the long term Free version. They have been working on bringing their
>products up to par with the leaders in the securities industry, and they now
>have enough of a following to support charging for what they gave away free.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Any facts, as opposed to unsubstantiated rumors? I see no evidence of
Avast doing this. Their software still comes with a one-year license
for non-comercial use.

 

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>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Stay away from Norton <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> and McAfee.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
AMEN!!!<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I think the hype about Norton and AOL is similar as some people's hype
> about Vista. I usually comes from people who have not used the products
> and go by hearsay. The result you have seen with the Mojave project that
> MS launched last year. Those dummies really had egg all over their face.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Hi, I cannot comment on AOL, but I sure know all about Norton. It is just
not the best thing around. Try phoning their customer support, 75% of the
time you will be told to "reinstall" either Windows or Norton. Their
product is just not that good.
Cheers

Spook
spook@xnets.co.za

 

On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:18:10 -0400, "Eric" <someone@idontwantspam.com> wrote:
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>IF TrendMicro works at all, the problem is it doesn't work at all by
>default. It disconnected an internet game from it's server without asking
>me or telling me why. I couldn't find anything in the configuration to fix
>it, and I shouldn't have to. Where's the pop up window warning me that it
>found a problem and telling me why it thinks I should stop playing? I
>shouldn't have to find a configuration page to turn ON that bell/whistle.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
the bells and whistles are off by default. Only the most important alerts will
annoy you.
You have to turn the FULL aware alerts on. Like I said, I jumped ship mid
subscription with trend. I no longer know where all the buttons are, but I know
they exist.
open up the config, and read all the buttons, and ADVANCED buttons. or sub
menus. You can make trend extremely annoying, or extremely unobtrusive. Which
would seem to be the way it's set now. It did something, and you don't know
why. If the firewall's on and logging, the answer is there.
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>Which "website inhabited by kids" are you referring to? The game is hosted
>by a reputable company. If you're saying you don't play interactive games <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
That means nothing. Spend some time in GRC.SECURITY if you want to learn about
web virus and what MS and everyone else is doing to combat it.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>because it allows some access to your PC from anyone who can hack the game
>server, that's your problem. If you live with that sort of fear, don't <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Just because I used the term paranoia software, NOT visiting a bunch of unknown
web sites especially those IDENTIFIED as giving virus software a head ache has
nothing to do with fear. I just don't care to reinstall my OS with every 'LOOK
at THIS ' post.
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>connect to the internet at all because a sophisticated enough hacker could
>be able to find a way to access any connected machine.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Hacker... You can get infected by a bot.<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>When you said, "The 'trusted program' shouldn't have a thing to do with
>killing it's operation after x minutes. That's a 'Trial annoyware' tactic.
>Or something configured wrong.", I thought you were saying the program
>getting blocked was a trial program. Now you're talking about a difference
>with the AV program because it's a trial version? The TrendMicro was a
>trial program in that I got a free subscription for updates which was only
>good for 6 months. Aside from that I didn't think there were other
>versions.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
'Trial annoyware' = software that constantly annoys you to buy it. Newsbin
comes to mind. Every 2 minutes to be exact it stops working to tell you to buy
it..

A trial version of Trend is a version that stops updating itself when the trial
period runs out. Otherwise it's fully functional. FWIW: With all the virus
software out there with their trials, you can run a different program for 1-3
months, FULLY functional and avoid paying every year. That's how I found 1care
after 6 months of trials.
Trend has several versions of trials. The PRO is only necessary if you want all
the extras [built in with 1care]. The version just below PRO is the one I've
used more than 10 years.
It has ALL the goodies except WIFI and extra programs.
You can get just the firewall, or just the scanner.
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>
><keepout@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
>news:2vpe55tvedj6t0hkb8cg5jfrug461lcal1@4ax.com...
>On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:59:30 -0400, "Eric" <someone@idontwantspam.com>
>wrote:
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>>If you're suggesting my OS has settings which would cause a problem with my
>>game, you're clueless, since I already said the game works just fine since
>>I
>>uninstalled TrendMicro.
>>If by adult controls you mean TrendMicro has parental controls which
>>timeout
>>games after a very short time by default, I didn't see anything when I
>>checked it's configuration trying to get it to work, and it seems a bit
>>ridiculous to me that such a thing would be enabled by default.
>>"blaming trend makes no sense"? What would you blame when my game gets a
>>message "connection terminated" after a few minutes of playing, and works
>>just fine after uninstalling your TrendMicro program? Your defense of this
>>software is what makes no sense. It has nothing to do with a screen saver,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>I used Trend for more than 10 years. I'd say I know it pretty well. This
>timing
>out thing has to be a configuration problem. That's the end of it.
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>and it's not a trial program. You can download the program yourself and
>>see<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>doesn't matter Trends trial is fully functional for the length of the trial
>as
>is MOST virus software. Cripple ware is pretty much the realm of useless
>software.
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>how TrendMicro terminates it. I already told you the name of the program
>>and the name of the site it's connecting to. The program is a free
>>download
>>and the game on the site is free to play.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>Browsing KNOWN web pages is about my stretch. I have every bit of paranoia
>software I own enabled. I don't look for problems.
>And definitely not going to visit a web site inhabited by kids trying to
>make a
>name for themselves.
>
>Hmm mm.. That just might be why trend is shutting down after x minutes.
>You've sat on the SAME ISP long enough for the kiddies to locate you, and
>attack. And Trend noticed it and put up a block. IOW Trend did what it was
>intended to. If you want to go further, turn on all of the warnings for
>everything trend blocks. Can be EXTREMELY annoying, but for a novice with
>the
>program, until you RECOGNIZE a program asking for access, you should let
>Trend
>do it's job. Just get ready for constant warnings for a week or two until
>you
>know what's happening.
>
>Here's what is missing from your post. Trend doesn't lock you out from the
>web
>after x minutes. It only locks you out of that game after x minutes. You see
>what I'm saying ? Trends working, you just don't know WHY it doesn't like
>that
>online game. Turning on all of Trends bells and whistles, and examining the
>firewall logs for that time period should tell you EXACTLY why it blocked
>access to that game. Learning trend can take some effort on your part.
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"Spook" <spook@xnets.co.za> wrote in message
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><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> Stay away from Norton<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> and McAfee.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> AMEN!!!<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I'm trial testing NIS 2009 right now.
Its quite good.
Fast, uses low resources, easy interface.
I'll probably buy it.

Also tried Norton 360...equally as good, but I don't need the
backup/performance utilities.

I rate it above NOD32, which I was a 3 year user of, until after version 2.5
it became a bloated pig.
I recently tried NOD AV version 4, and it still is a pig.
Uses double the resources of Norton, and is no faster in a full scan.

I think Symantec has turned Norton into a top rated product...way better
than it was years ago.

 

"Brandon Mahler" <mahlerbrandon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Just wondering<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

On this topic of AV programs, I wonder if we could get away from the
suggestions of free programs like Avast and the bashing of Norton/McAfee and
ask a more specific question.
I got an ad for a software called Vipre Enterprise. Does anyone have any
experience with or information about this product? The ad claims to be
better than "Symantec, McAfee, TrendMicro, or whatever antivirus program
you're using".

 

Eric, I always check on the professional comparison websites. If a
product is that great, it will appear there. Here is one example:
'AV-Comparatives - Independent Tests of Anti-Virus Software - Welcome to
AV-Comparatives.org' ()


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whs

 

"whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Eric, I always check on the professional comparison websites. If a
> product is that great, it will appear there. Here is one example:
> 'AV-Comparatives - Independent Tests of Anti-Virus Software - Welcome to
> AV-Comparatives.org' ()
>
>
> --
> whs<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That tells me little to nothing. That site doesn't appear to mention Vipre
Enterprise, so either that site sucks, that product sucks, that site just
didn't bother to test this particular software, or perhaps the software is
new and hasn't been tested by such sites yet.
Now back to the original question. Does anyone have any experience with or
knowledge about a product called Vipre Enterprise, which is apparently an AV
program, from Sunbelt Software?

 

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:21:40 -0400, Eric wrote:
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> "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:cd228cc32453357d638fed71d349efc0@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Eric, I always check on the professional comparison websites. If a
>> product is that great, it will appear there. Here is one example:
>> 'AV-Comparatives - Independent Tests of Anti-Virus Software - Welcome to
>> AV-Comparatives.org' ()
>>
>>
>> --
>> whs<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> That tells me little to nothing. That site doesn't appear to mention Vipre
> Enterprise, so either that site sucks, that product sucks, that site just
> didn't bother to test this particular software, or perhaps the software is
> new and hasn't been tested by such sites yet.
> Now back to the original question. Does anyone have any experience with or
> knowledge about a product called Vipre Enterprise, which is apparently an AV
> program, from Sunbelt Software?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

No.

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Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

Yes I run Vipre on 3 different computers as well as 3 other family members
use it on there household computers, I originally started using sunbelt for
there excellent antispyware program called "Counterspy" they brought out
vipre about year ago or so after running a beta much like Microsoft does
with its windows systems.
My older brother (54!) did the entire beta run after my suggestion as he had
the extra box that I did not have at the time. Vipre is small, very fast and
easy on resources and also contains Counterspy. I have been using there
products for 5 years now and I am very happy with it. There support is
extremely fast and is located in Tampa Florida (there home office). They
offer many products as well as licenses for each including there home site
unlimited which allows you to put in on any and all of your home computers.
I believe I got a deal on 3 computers for $29.95. Between Vipre, Winpatrol
and a good free defrag program (Auslogics) my systems hum along nicely thank
you..

"Eric" <someone@idontwantspam.com> wrote in message
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> "Brandon Mahler" <mahlerbrandon@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23jYp8uk$JHA.4168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Just wondering<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> On this topic of AV programs, I wonder if we could get away from the
> suggestions of free programs like Avast and the bashing of Norton/McAfee
> and ask a more specific question.
> I got an ad for a software called Vipre Enterprise. Does anyone have any
> experience with or information about this product? The ad claims to be
> better than "Symantec, McAfee, TrendMicro, or whatever antivirus program
> you're using".
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:09:17 -0800, "Brandon Mahler"
<mahlerbrandon@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Just wondering<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I've been using AVG and have not had a single problem.

 

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:13:44 -0700, Ashton Crusher <demi@moore.net>
wrote:
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>On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:09:17 -0800, "Brandon Mahler"
><mahlerbrandon@gmail.com> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>Just wondering<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
>I've been using AVG and have not had a single problem.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

AVG was great up until V7. When V8 came out it had some very serious
performance problems, bringing some systems to their knees. I don't
know if they've fixed those, as I stopped using it at that point along
with a few million other folks.

 

On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:00:01 -0400, +Bob+ <nomailplease@example.com>
wrote:
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>On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:13:44 -0700, Ashton Crusher <demi@moore.net>
>wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:09:17 -0800, "Brandon Mahler"
>><mahlerbrandon@gmail.com> wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>Just wondering<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>
>>I've been using AVG and have not had a single problem.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>AVG was great up until V7. When V8 came out it had some very serious
>performance problems, bringing some systems to their knees. I don't
>know if they've fixed those, as I stopped using it at that point along
>with a few million other folks. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I had heard that and was a little worried but upgraded anyway. I'm
running ver 8.5.392 and have not had any problems and have not noticed
any performance hits.

 

AVG all the way!

"Ashton Crusher" <demi@moore.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:00:01 -0400, +Bob+ <nomailplease@example.com>
> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:13:44 -0700, Ashton Crusher <demi@moore.net>
>>wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 07:09:17 -0800, "Brandon Mahler"
>>><mahlerbrandon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just wondering
>>>
>>>
>>>I've been using AVG and have not had a single problem.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>AVG was great up until V7. When V8 came out it had some very serious
>>performance problems, bringing some systems to their knees. I don't
>>know if they've fixed those, as I stopped using it at that point along
>>with a few million other folks.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> I had heard that and was a little worried but upgraded anyway. I'm
> running ver 8.5.392 and have not had any problems and have not noticed
> any performance hits. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->