What upgrade

He has to upgrade to a business class operating system to be able to join a
domain.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all. Vista
> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
> whether you would even use those.
> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
> recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first have
> to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP is a
> much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything, you
> might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
> months.
>
>
> --
> whs <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Tim,

Home Premium will only upgrade to Ultimate, not Business.


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"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
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> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>David,
>>
>>Yes a domain. In fact the domain displays when I select Network.
>>
>>Can I upgrade from Home edition to Business? It wasn't clear to me. It
>>showed upgrading from Home Premiim to Ultimate and from Business to
>>another
>>Upgrade (I don't recall if it was also called Ultimate).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You need to upgrade to either Business or Ultimate. You can upgrade to
> either from Home Premium system.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(Shell/User)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:OrHK8Y4JKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Tim,
>
> Home Premium will only upgrade to Ultimate, not Business.
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Upgrading from one OS to another, even within the same family, has never
been a strong suit for Windows. A clean installation is always best.

 

Sinner wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:OrHK8Y4JKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Tim,
>>
>> Home Premium will only upgrade to Ultimate, not Business.
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Upgrading from one OS to another, even within the same family, has never
> been a strong suit for Windows. A clean installation is always best.
>
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That's not at all true.

A properly prepared and maintained PC can almost always be
successfully upgraded by a knowledgeable and competent individual. I've
lost count of the systems I've seen that have been upgraded from Win95
to Win98 to Win2K to WinXP (usually with incremental hardware upgrades
over the same time period), without the need for a clean installation,
and that are still operating without any problems attributable to upgrades.

Granted, some people will blindly recommend that one always perform
a clean installation, rather than upgrade over an earlier OS. For the
most part, I feel that these people, while usually well-meaning, are
living in the far past, and are either basing their recommendation on
their experiences with much older operating systems, or are simply
inexperienced and uninformed.

Granted, there are times when an in-place upgrade is contra-indicated:

1) When the underlying hardware isn't certified as being fully
compatible with the newer OS, and/or updated device drivers are not
available from the device's manufacturer. Of course, this condition also
causes problems with clean installations.

2) When the original OS is corrupt, damaged, and/or virus/malware
infested. I've also seen simple, straight-forward upgrades from WinXP
Home to WinXP Pro fail because the computer owner had let the system
become malware-infested. Upgrading over a problematic OS isn't normally
a wise course to establishing a stable installation.

3) When the new OS isn't designed to properly, correctly, and safely
perform an upgrade.

But even more importantly, the newer installation mechanisms (partition
images vs. file-by-file copying) used by Vista and Win7 render your
assertions even more irrelevant.


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Re: RESOLVED


"Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
news:uJWj3u0JKHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Thank you all for your help. I discovered in the client's server room,
> several copies of Vista Business Upgrade. They must have come with some
> other units they purchased with XP or planning on upgrading.
>
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Err "what" is "resolved"?
Please quote the post you are replying to, reply to the thread, and please
don't change the subject line unless the thread goes WAY off topic.

This is not a chatroom or web forum, this is a UseNet newsgroup.

Thank you.

 

Re: RESOLVED

Gordon,

The original post of what version to upgrade to. I wrote resolved so that
people wouldn't put their time into a solution. Sorry if I caused
confusion. I thought my message would explain why.

God Bless,

Mark


"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%239mn8U8JKHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
> news:uJWj3u0JKHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Thank you all for your help. I discovered in the client's server room,
>> several copies of Vista Business Upgrade. They must have come with some
>> other units they purchased with XP or planning on upgrading.
>>
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Err "what" is "resolved"?
> Please quote the post you are replying to, reply to the thread, and please
> don't change the subject line unless the thread goes WAY off topic.
>
> This is not a chatroom or web forum, this is a UseNet newsgroup.
>
> Thank you. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I tried to upgrade to Business, but couldn't. I could only upgrade from
>Home Premium to Ultimate. I Ordered it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Ouch! You're right, I'm sorry. Home Premium has some features that
aren't in Business, and an upgrade won't take anything out. So the
only place you can go from Home Premium is Ultimate, which has
everything.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov

 

Tim,

I was able to map a network drive, so I put the notebook to use until I get
the upgrade.

God Bless,

Mark


"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
news:2skf95ddvvr73u2etg92e7a9647vu2fiko@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>I tried to upgrade to Business, but couldn't. I could only upgrade from
>>Home Premium to Ultimate. I Ordered it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Ouch! You're right, I'm sorry. Home Premium has some features that
> aren't in Business, and an upgrade won't take anything out. So the
> only place you can go from Home Premium is Ultimate, which has
> everything.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(Shell/User)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Re: RESOLVED


"Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
news:u0V$V18JKHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Gordon,
>
> The original post of what version to upgrade to. I wrote resolved so
> that people wouldn't put their time into a solution. Sorry if I caused
> confusion. I thought my message would explain why.
>
> God Bless,
>
> Mark
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
The best way would have been to reply to your own original
post with - RESOLVED appended onto the subject line.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%239mn8U8JKHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
>> news:uJWj3u0JKHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Thank you all for your help. I discovered in the client's server room,
>>> several copies of Vista Business Upgrade. They must have come with some
>>> other units they purchased with XP or planning on upgrading.
>>>
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Err "what" is "resolved"?
>> Please quote the post you are replying to, reply to the thread, and
>> please don't change the subject line unless the thread goes WAY off
>> topic.
>>
>> This is not a chatroom or web forum, this is a UseNet newsgroup.
>>
>> Thank you.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:06:42 -0600, Bruce Chambers
<bchambers@cableone.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> A properly prepared and maintained PC can almost always be
>successfully upgraded by a knowledgeable and competent individual. I've
>lost count of the systems I've seen that have been upgraded from Win95
>to Win98 to Win2K to WinXP (usually with incremental hardware upgrades
>over the same time period), without the need for a clean installation,
>and that are still operating without any problems attributable to upgrades.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I've upgraded successfully too - but I still prefer a clean install.
Let's face it, what windows system doesn't benefit from a reload? I've
never seen one that didn't speed up. As long as you are doing the
"upgrade" (and will have to reinstall most of your apps anyway), you
might as well do it right.

 

Re: RESOLVED

I agree and I thought I did. My error.


"Ian D" <taurus@nowhereatall.com> wrote in message
news:uyh33b$JKHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
> news:u0V$V18JKHA.4392@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Gordon,
>>
>> The original post of what version to upgrade to. I wrote resolved so
>> that people wouldn't put their time into a solution. Sorry if I caused
>> confusion. I thought my message would explain why.
>>
>> God Bless,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> The best way would have been to reply to your own original
> post with - RESOLVED appended onto the subject line.
>
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:%239mn8U8JKHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
>>> news:uJWj3u0JKHA.1336@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thank you all for your help. I discovered in the client's server room,
>>>> several copies of Vista Business Upgrade. They must have come with
>>>> some other units they purchased with XP or planning on upgrading.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Err "what" is "resolved"?
>>> Please quote the post you are replying to, reply to the thread, and
>>> please don't change the subject line unless the thread goes WAY off
>>> topic.
>>>
>>> This is not a chatroom or web forum, this is a UseNet newsgroup.
>>>
>>> Thank you.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I installed Ultimate and it can't find any network. There is an option
called Network Discovery which is suppose to seek out any networks, but it
is set to Off and I can't set it to On.



"David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
news:e%23$rQW1JKHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> What do you mean? Once you set up Vista on the domain you'll get a logon
> prompt
>
> --
>
>
> ------
> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
> news:uUzyl40JKHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I'll try upgrading to Vista Business first. I don't now to get a logon
>> screen, however or even if I can with this upgrade. My client's son has
>> Vista and I can map a drive, but his network guy said he needs an upgrade
>> to logon. It doesn't make sense to me that a lower version can just get
>> on a network without loggin on.
>>
>>
>> "John" <a> wrote in message news:edJ7ux0JKHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...
>>>>
>>>> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.
>>>
>>> OP wants to join a windows server domain. Isn't that obvious?
>>>
>>>> Vista
>>>> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
>>>> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
>>>> whether you would even use those.
>>>
>>> Home editions can't join a domain.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
>>>> recommend.
>>>
>>> For business use, XP Pro is highly recommended (at least at this time).
>>> I've used Vista Business in a Windows Server 2003 domain environment.
>>> I'm really not impressed. One of the problems that I remember off the
>>> top of my head is new folder creation. Users can't see a new folder
>>> created on a shared network folder. They have to refresh to see the New
>>> Folder. Yes, I've tried patching it. Nothing seems to fix the problem.
>>> Also, some of our older software runs 3x slower than it does on XP Pro.
>>>
>>> I ended up downgrading it to XP Pro. Why? Because it just works.
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->