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Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009.

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  1. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    Hello,

    A client purchased a new laptop, but it came with Vista Home Premium
    edition. It should have come with XP Pro. I need to be able to logon to
    the network. What version of Vista should I upgrade to. The available
    choices were Home Ultimate and Business, maybe Business Ultimate, I'm not
    sure. Can I change it to XP Pro?

    Also is this the place to get help on how to connect to the network so that
    a logon screen comes up?

    Thanks for your help

    God Bless,

    Mark A. Sam
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
    #1
  3. David B.

    David B. Guest

    Log on to WHAT network? A domain? If so you need Vista Business or higher.
    You'll have to do research to see if XP drivers are available for the
    laptop.

    --


    ------
    "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    news:uI6A4czJKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hello,
    >
    > A client purchased a new laptop, but it came with Vista Home Premium
    > edition. It should have come with XP Pro. I need to be able to logon to
    > the network. What version of Vista should I upgrade to. The available
    > choices were Home Ultimate and Business, maybe Business Ultimate, I'm not
    > sure. Can I change it to XP Pro?
    >
    > Also is this the place to get help on how to connect to the network so
    > that a logon screen comes up?
    >
    > Thanks for your help
    >
    > God Bless,
    >
    > Mark A. Sam
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    David B., Aug 27, 2009
    #2
  4. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    David,

    Yes a domain. In fact the domain displays when I select Network.

    Can I upgrade from Home edition to Business? It wasn't clear to me. It
    showed upgrading from Home Premiim to Ultimate and from Business to another
    Upgrade (I don't recall if it was also called Ultimate).

    Thanks for the help.

    Mark


    "David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
    news:%23tfrflzJKHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Log on to WHAT network? A domain? If so you need Vista Business or higher.
    > You'll have to do research to see if XP drivers are available for the
    > laptop.
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > ------
    > "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    > news:uI6A4czJKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> A client purchased a new laptop, but it came with Vista Home Premium
    >> edition. It should have come with XP Pro. I need to be able to logon to
    >> the network. What version of Vista should I upgrade to. The available
    >> choices were Home Ultimate and Business, maybe Business Ultimate, I'm not
    >> sure. Can I change it to XP Pro?
    >>
    >> Also is this the place to get help on how to connect to the network so
    >> that a logon screen comes up?
    >>
    >> Thanks for your help
    >>
    >> God Bless,
    >>
    >> Mark A. Sam
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
    #3
  5. John

    John Guest

    If the purchase includes downgrade right to XP Pro, install XP Pro. Contact
    the manufacturer if you don't receive XP Pro setup media.

    "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    news:uI6A4czJKHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hello,
    >
    > A client purchased a new laptop, but it came with Vista Home Premium
    > edition. It should have come with XP Pro. I need to be able to logon to
    > the network. What version of Vista should I upgrade to. The available
    > choices were Home Ultimate and Business, maybe Business Ultimate, I'm not
    > sure. Can I change it to XP Pro?
    >
    > Also is this the place to get help on how to connect to the network so
    > that a logon screen comes up?
    >
    > Thanks for your help
    >
    > God Bless,
    >
    > Mark A. Sam
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    John, Aug 27, 2009
    #4
  6. whs

    whs Guest

    1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all. Vista
    Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    whether you would even use those.
    2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first have
    to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP is a
    much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything, you
    might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    months.


    --
    whs
     
    whs, Aug 27, 2009
    #5
  7. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    WHS,

    Do you know how to connect to a Windows (I think 2003) network and bring up
    a logon screen? That is what I need to do.

    I prefer XP Pro becuase it works. My experience with Vista is that it is
    extemely slow. And if it gets slower with time like XP does, then it will
    become unusable.

    As far as Windows 7 is concerned, the client isn't interested in any new
    version until the bugs have been worked out. I don't blame him.

    Thank you and God Bless,

    Mark


    "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all. Vista
    > Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    > higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    > whether you would even use those.
    > 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    > recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first have
    > to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP is a
    > much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything, you
    > might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    > months.
    >
    >
    > --
    > whs <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
    #6
  8. Zaphod Beeblebrox

    Zaphod Beeblebrox Guest

    "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    news:e$pl0A0JKHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    > news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.
    >> Vista
    >> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The
    >> next
    >> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    >> whether you would even use those.
    >> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    >> recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first
    >> have
    >> to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP
    >> is a
    >> much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything,
    >> you
    >> might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    >> months.
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > WHS,
    >
    > Do you know how to connect to a Windows (I think 2003) network and
    > bring up a logon screen? That is what I need to do.
    >
    > I prefer XP Pro becuase it works. My experience with Vista is that
    > it is extemely slow. And if it gets slower with time like XP does,
    > then it will become unusable.
    >
    > As far as Windows 7 is concerned, the client isn't interested in any
    > new version until the bugs have been worked out. I don't blame him.
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Home versions of Windows cannot join a Domain, so you'll have to do
    something, whether it is Vista Business (or higher) or XP Pro.

    --
    Zaphod

    Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
    years in a row.
     
    Zaphod Beeblebrox, Aug 27, 2009
    #7
  9. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    Thank you. Do you know off hand if I can upgrade from Home Edition to
    Business?

    "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:h76j8j$g3g$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    > news:e$pl0A0JKHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    >> news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>
    >>> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all. Vista
    >>> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    >>> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    >>> whether you would even use those.
    >>> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    >>> recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first have
    >>> to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP is a
    >>> much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything, you
    >>> might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    >>> months.
    >>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> WHS,
    >>
    >> Do you know how to connect to a Windows (I think 2003) network and bring
    >> up a logon screen? That is what I need to do.
    >>
    >> I prefer XP Pro becuase it works. My experience with Vista is that it is
    >> extemely slow. And if it gets slower with time like XP does, then it
    >> will become unusable.
    >>
    >> As far as Windows 7 is concerned, the client isn't interested in any new
    >> version until the bugs have been worked out. I don't blame him.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Home versions of Windows cannot join a Domain, so you'll have to do
    > something, whether it is Vista Business (or higher) or XP Pro.
    >
    > --
    > Zaphod
    >
    > Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven years
    > in a row.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
    #8
  10. Zaphod Beeblebrox

    Zaphod Beeblebrox Guest

    "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    news:ubF8Pa0JKHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote in
    > message news:h76j8j$g3g$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    >> news:e$pl0A0JKHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>
    >>> "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.
    >>>> Vista
    >>>> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The
    >>>> next
    >>>> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    >>>> whether you would even use those.
    >>>> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I
    >>>> would
    >>>> recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first
    >>>> have
    >>>> to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious),
    >>>> XP is a
    >>>> much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If
    >>>> anything, you
    >>>> might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    >>>> months.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> WHS,
    >>>
    >>> Do you know how to connect to a Windows (I think 2003) network and
    >>> bring up a logon screen? That is what I need to do.
    >>>
    >>> I prefer XP Pro becuase it works. My experience with Vista is
    >>> that it is extemely slow. And if it gets slower with time like XP
    >>> does, then it will become unusable.
    >>>
    >>> As far as Windows 7 is concerned, the client isn't interested in
    >>> any new version until the bugs have been worked out. I don't
    >>> blame him.
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Home versions of Windows cannot join a Domain, so you'll have to do
    >> something, whether it is Vista Business (or higher) or XP Pro.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Thank you. Do you know off hand if I can upgrade from Home Edition
    > to Business?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Vista Home Basic allows an upgrade to Vista Business. Vista Home
    Premium requires a "Custom Installation", in other words, a
    reinstallation. See the chart at the bottom of


    --
    Zaphod

    Arthur Dent, speaking to Trillian about Zaphod:
    "So, two heads is what does it for a girl?"
    "...Anything else he's got two of?"
     
    Zaphod Beeblebrox, Aug 27, 2009
    #9
  11. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    RESOLVED

    Thank you all for your help. I discovered in the client's server room,
    several copies of Vista Business Upgrade. They must have come with some
    other units they purchased with XP or planning on upgrading.
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
    #10
  12. John

    John Guest

    "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    OP wants to join a windows server domain. Isn't that obvious?
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Vista
    > Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    > higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    > whether you would even use those.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Home editions can't join a domain.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    > recommend.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    For business use, XP Pro is highly recommended (at least at this time). I've
    used Vista Business in a Windows Server 2003 domain environment. I'm really
    not impressed. One of the problems that I remember off the top of my head is
    new folder creation. Users can't see a new folder created on a shared
    network folder. They have to refresh to see the New Folder. Yes, I've tried
    patching it. Nothing seems to fix the problem. Also, some of our older
    software runs 3x slower than it does on XP Pro.

    I ended up downgrading it to XP Pro. Why? Because it just works.
     
    John, Aug 27, 2009
    #11
  13. Ian D

    Ian D Guest

    "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    news:ubF8Pa0JKHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Thank you. Do you know off hand if I can upgrade from Home Edition to
    > Business?
    >
    > "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote in
    > message news:h76j8j$g3g$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You're probably better off upgrading to Ultimate. You only
    need the upgrade edition, which will be much more readily
    available in retail channels than Business. Home Premium
    and Ultimate are mainstream products, Business is not.
    Also, Ultimate has the combined features of both Home and
    Business.

    Is the 32 or 64 bit version of Home Premium installed?
    Most mid to high end laptops now ship with 64 bit Home
    Premium. Retail Ultimate comes with both 32 and 64 bit
    versions in the box.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    >> news:e$pl0A0JKHA.6016@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>
    >>> "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all. Vista
    >>>> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    >>>> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    >>>> whether you would even use those.
    >>>> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    >>>> recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first have
    >>>> to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP is
    >>>> a
    >>>> much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything, you
    >>>> might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    >>>> months.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> WHS,
    >>>
    >>> Do you know how to connect to a Windows (I think 2003) network and bring
    >>> up a logon screen? That is what I need to do.
    >>>
    >>> I prefer XP Pro becuase it works. My experience with Vista is that it
    >>> is extemely slow. And if it gets slower with time like XP does, then it
    >>> will become unusable.
    >>>
    >>> As far as Windows 7 is concerned, the client isn't interested in any new
    >>> version until the bugs have been worked out. I don't blame him.
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Home versions of Windows cannot join a Domain, so you'll have to do
    >> something, whether it is Vista Business (or higher) or XP Pro.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Zaphod
    >>
    >> Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
    >> years in a row.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Ian D, Aug 27, 2009
    #12
  14. David B.

    David B. Guest

    You can't connect to a domain with Home Premium.

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    "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all. Vista
    > Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    > higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    > whether you would even use those.
    > 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    > recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first have
    > to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP is a
    > much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything, you
    > might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    > months.
    >
    >
    > --
    > whs <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    David B., Aug 27, 2009
    #13
  15. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    I'll try upgrading to Vista Business first. I don't now to get a logon
    screen, however or even if I can with this upgrade. My client's son has
    Vista and I can map a drive, but his network guy said he needs an upgrade to
    logon. It doesn't make sense to me that a lower version can just get on a
    network without loggin on.


    "John" <a> wrote in message news:edJ7ux0JKHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    > news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > OP wants to join a windows server domain. Isn't that obvious?
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Vista
    >> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    >> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    >> whether you would even use those.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Home editions can't join a domain.
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    >> recommend.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > For business use, XP Pro is highly recommended (at least at this time).
    > I've used Vista Business in a Windows Server 2003 domain environment. I'm
    > really not impressed. One of the problems that I remember off the top of
    > my head is new folder creation. Users can't see a new folder created on a
    > shared network folder. They have to refresh to see the New Folder. Yes,
    > I've tried patching it. Nothing seems to fix the problem. Also, some of
    > our older software runs 3x slower than it does on XP Pro.
    >
    > I ended up downgrading it to XP Pro. Why? Because it just works.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
    #14
  16. whs

    whs Guest

    Mark A. Sam;1121852 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > WHS,
    >
    > Do you know how to connect to a Windows (I think 2003) network and
    > bring up
    > a logon screen? That is what I need to do.
    >
    > I prefer XP Pro becuase it works. My experience with Vista is that it
    > is
    > extemely slow. And if it gets slower with time like XP does, then it
    > will
    > become unusable.
    >
    > As far as Windows 7 is concerned, the client isn't interested in any
    > new
    > version until the bugs have been worked out. I don't blame him.
    >
    > Thank you and God Bless,
    >
    > Mark
    >
    >
    > "whs" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
    > news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > >
    > > > 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > Vista<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    > > > higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    > > > whether you would even use those.
    > > > 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    > > > recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > have<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > is a<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > you<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    > > > months.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > whs > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Sorry, my bad. I missed the domain part. Mea culpa.


    --
    whs
     
    whs, Aug 27, 2009
    #15
  17. Tim Slattery

    Tim Slattery Guest

    "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >David,
    >
    >Yes a domain. In fact the domain displays when I select Network.
    >
    >Can I upgrade from Home edition to Business? It wasn't clear to me. It
    >showed upgrading from Home Premiim to Ultimate and from Business to another
    >Upgrade (I don't recall if it was also called Ultimate).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You need to upgrade to either Business or Ultimate. You can upgrade to
    either from Home Premium system.

    --
    Tim Slattery
    MS MVP(Shell/User)
    Slattery_T@bls.gov
     
    Tim Slattery, Aug 27, 2009
    #16
  18. David B.

    David B. Guest

    What do you mean? Once you set up Vista on the domain you'll get a logon
    prompt

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    "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    news:uUzyl40JKHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I'll try upgrading to Vista Business first. I don't now to get a logon
    > screen, however or even if I can with this upgrade. My client's son has
    > Vista and I can map a drive, but his network guy said he needs an upgrade
    > to logon. It doesn't make sense to me that a lower version can just get
    > on a network without loggin on.
    >
    >
    > "John" <a> wrote in message news:edJ7ux0JKHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    >> news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>
    >>> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> OP wants to join a windows server domain. Isn't that obvious?
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Vista
    >>> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    >>> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    >>> whether you would even use those.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Home editions can't join a domain.
    >>
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    >>> recommend.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> For business use, XP Pro is highly recommended (at least at this time).
    >> I've used Vista Business in a Windows Server 2003 domain environment. I'm
    >> really not impressed. One of the problems that I remember off the top of
    >> my head is new folder creation. Users can't see a new folder created on a
    >> shared network folder. They have to refresh to see the New Folder. Yes,
    >> I've tried patching it. Nothing seems to fix the problem. Also, some of
    >> our older software runs 3x slower than it does on XP Pro.
    >>
    >> I ended up downgrading it to XP Pro. Why? Because it just works.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    David B., Aug 27, 2009
    #17
  19. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    I tried to upgrade to Business, but couldn't. I could only upgrade from
    Home Premium to Ultimate. I Ordered it.


    "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
    news:ukpd95p1bhqd80vf7g99ebujvc407et72v@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>David,
    >>
    >>Yes a domain. In fact the domain displays when I select Network.
    >>
    >>Can I upgrade from Home edition to Business? It wasn't clear to me. It
    >>showed upgrading from Home Premiim to Ultimate and from Business to
    >>another
    >>Upgrade (I don't recall if it was also called Ultimate).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You need to upgrade to either Business or Ultimate. You can upgrade to
    > either from Home Premium system.
    >
    > --
    > Tim Slattery
    > MS MVP(Shell/User)
    > Slattery_T@bls.gov
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
    #18
  20. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    No prob. [​IMG]


    "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:afb23492f3399a1b7e94598fa8620aa9@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > Mark A. Sam;1121852 Wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> WHS,
    >>
    >> Do you know how to connect to a Windows (I think 2003) network and
    >> bring up
    >> a logon screen? That is what I need to do.
    >>
    >> I prefer XP Pro becuase it works. My experience with Vista is that it
    >> is
    >> extemely slow. And if it gets slower with time like XP does, then it
    >> will
    >> become unusable.
    >>
    >> As far as Windows 7 is concerned, the client isn't interested in any
    >> new
    >> version until the bugs have been worked out. I don't blame him.
    >>
    >> Thank you and God Bless,
    >>
    >> Mark
    >>
    >>
    >> "whs" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
    >> news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@xxxxxx-gateway.com...> > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > >
    >> > > 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.
    >> > Vista
    >> > > Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    >> > > higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    >> > > whether you would even use those.
    >> > > 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    >> > > recommend. Besides the point that was already made that you first
    >> > have
    >> > > to find ALL XP drivers for that Vista PC (which is not obvious), XP
    >> > is a
    >> > > much lesser OS than Vista and starts showing cob webs. If anything,
    >> > you
    >> > > might consider going to Windows7 which will be out in a couple of
    >> > > months.
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > > --
    >> > > whs > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Sorry, my bad. I missed the domain part. Mea culpa.
    >
    >
    > --
    > whs <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
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  21. Mark A. Sam

    Mark A. Sam Guest

    I didn't realize that the logon screen would come up. My client's son has
    Home Edition. I thought he had Vista Business. I was able to set him up on
    the network by mapping to a network drive. So he can access the drive and
    basically do anything he wants to folders or files as far as I know.



    "David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
    news:e%23$rQW1JKHA.4136@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > What do you mean? Once you set up Vista on the domain you'll get a logon
    > prompt
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > ------
    > "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote in message
    > news:uUzyl40JKHA.4236@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I'll try upgrading to Vista Business first. I don't now to get a logon
    >> screen, however or even if I can with this upgrade. My client's son has
    >> Vista and I can map a drive, but his network guy said he needs an upgrade
    >> to logon. It doesn't make sense to me that a lower version can just get
    >> on a network without loggin on.
    >>
    >>
    >> "John" <a> wrote in message news:edJ7ux0JKHA.5808@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>
    >>> "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:e20699520b65cc25e958f386fcf08343@nntp-gateway.com...
    >>>>
    >>>> 1. My first question would be: Why do you want to upgrade at all.
    >>>
    >>> OP wants to join a windows server domain. Isn't that obvious?
    >>>
    >>>> Vista
    >>>> Home Premium is what most people use and it works very well. The next
    >>>> higher editions do have some additional functios, but question is
    >>>> whether you would even use those.
    >>>
    >>> Home editions can't join a domain.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>> 2. A downgrade to the 8 year old XP is really not something I would
    >>>> recommend.
    >>>
    >>> For business use, XP Pro is highly recommended (at least at this time).
    >>> I've used Vista Business in a Windows Server 2003 domain environment.
    >>> I'm really not impressed. One of the problems that I remember off the
    >>> top of my head is new folder creation. Users can't see a new folder
    >>> created on a shared network folder. They have to refresh to see the New
    >>> Folder. Yes, I've tried patching it. Nothing seems to fix the problem.
    >>> Also, some of our older software runs 3x slower than it does on XP Pro.
    >>>
    >>> I ended up downgrading it to XP Pro. Why? Because it just works.
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mark A. Sam, Aug 27, 2009
    #20
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