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Vista Speech "Accuracy Slider"?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by Mark Conrad, Aug 25, 2009.

  1. andy t

    andy t Guest

    "Mark Conrad" <none-of@your-business.invalid> wrote in message
    news:290820092021580244%none-of@your-business.invalid...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > In article <ORmqJJNKKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, andy t
    > <none-of@your-businesseither.invalid> wrote:
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    >> Maybe when I get my Dragon professional and Windows 7,
    >> I may use both then decide which one is best for me.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > That's the spirit, test them both.
    >
    > Keep in mind that it will be just as tough for you
    > to give a fair test to Dragon, as it is for me to give a
    > fair test to WSR.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I choose not to have it tough, WSR at the moment, is far, far easier to use
    and if it is easier still in Windows 7, then I am not going to break a leg
    trying to use the very slow on the screen Dragon. I will give Dragon
    Professional a real good go with the help of a tutor and I will report back
    fairly on which one is easier to use.

    Bearing in mind, I have been told by various MVP's and speech experts, that
    there is vast improvements in the Windows 7 speech program.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > I have a cheap Andrea NC-91 headset that I think
    >> > came with one of the Dragon apps.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Then I suggest you use or buy a decent microphone and
    >> then use it with WSR.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Waste of money, same headset performs accurately with
    > Dragon at 336wpm, therefore it can't be the headset.
    >
    > Biggest waste of money on my part was when I fell for
    > the "magic microphone" nonsense, wasting hundreds of
    > dollars on very expensive Sennheiser models.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    What a bunch of crap!

    It is a well known fact, the better the microphone, suited to speech
    recognition, the better your accuracy will be. I am living proof of this.

    Senneheiser make some of the best microphones in the world. From the speech
    recognition end to the professional singers end. Ask any professional
    singer or microphone expert if there is a difference between that microphone
    and an inferior trumped up one.

    Since I've started using the Senneheiser MD 431 ll, probably the best
    desktop, speech recognition microphone on the market, my accuracy level has
    shot up tenfold and more than a marked difference between that and my Buddy
    desktop mic. I am not dismissing the Buddy range, they are an excellent
    microphone but the Senneheiser is amazing quality.

    I will also stick my neck out and say, the Senneheiser ME3 headset is on a
    par with the desktop version, and that is only because the microphone is
    right by the mouth. I prefer the desktop version because I find a headset
    uncomfortable around my head and also because I am incapable of taking it
    off being disabled.

    Short bursts using this microphone is fine for me, it is very accurate and
    the background noise does not become an issue. The same can be said for the
    desktop version Senneheiser. With this model on, I can listen to the TV,
    have a fan on and STILL my dictation comes out with precision accuracy using
    WSR.

    andy t
     
  2. andy t

    andy t Guest

    "Mark Conrad" <none-of@your-business.invalid> wrote in message
    news:290820092022131141%none-of@your-business.invalid...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > In article <#UvODxMKKHA.4232@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, andy t
    > <none-of@your-businesseither.invalid> wrote:
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    >> Why would I want to dictate a set of words...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > As a speed test, unless of course you are afraid to compare
    > the speed of WSR against other speech apps.
    >
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> ...already set down on a piece of paper?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > now is the time for all good men
    > to come to the aid of their country
    >
    > Are you incapable of memorizing that short sentence?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    No, but it seems that is ALL you can memorise. Take your meds and change
    the record. I am not prepared to go over the same ground over and over
    again with someone with dementia who keeps spouting out the same nonsense.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > now is the time for all good men
    >> > to come to the aid of their country<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Now is the time for your medicine I think. You really need serious help.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> >
    >> > 16 x 4 x 10 = 384wpm<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Um, repetition...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Right, four repetitions to be precise.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Yes, they will come in right-handy for proper dictation.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > now is the time for all good men
    >> > to come to the aid of their country
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > 16 x 4 x 10 = 384wpm<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Um, repeating yourself again. This is already been explained. Get some
    early nights in would be my suggestion.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Last time I checked, my dictation was "written down"
    > into a computer file.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Yes, but how often are the same words in dictation repeated 16 times. Told
    you, the program learns the format and words in the order you say them. The
    more you repeat the same words, the easier it becomes. No one dictate's
    like that, except you, but then you cannot remember the words in the first
    place can you so you have to write or speak into a recorder to set them
    down. What a waste of time!
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > from a speed test which you are afraid to perform.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    How old are you? 80 you say, why don't you start acting it. You have really
    lost it and act like a child of 10. I do not need a speed test, my
    dictation is fine and works great. I use it all the time as you can see
    from these posts. GROW UP!

    andy t
     
  3. andy t

    andy t Guest

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Mark Conrad" <none-of@your-business.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:290820092022271984%none-of@your-business.invalid...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> In article <#UvODxMKKHA.4232@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, andy t
    >> <none-of@your-businesseither.invalid> wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Okay Mark you win. Whatever you say.

    I am a changed man, you have converted me. LOL!

    I'll leave you alone now so that you can argue with yourself in the
    imaginary world of yours. Goodnight sweetheart.


    M. Conrad, vous faites vraiment avez besoin de l'aide avec votre OCD
    impliquant votre logiciel de dragon. Je me sens vraiment désolé pour vous,
    enveloppé vers le haut dans un petit monde de vos propres avec votre
    programme de dragon.

    C'est une honte que vous et votre dragon ne pouvez pas orthographier
    correctement.

    Rappelez-vous juste, il n'est pas votre défaut que vous êtes un short de
    plate-forme d'un plein paquet dans la tête. Regardez du bon côté, vous sont
    dans le bon endroit, signifiant votre hôpital, où ils peuvent s'inquiéter et
    s'occuper de vous.

    Continuez juste à prendre votre médecine pour maintenir votre démence dans
    le contrôle et vous jamais savoir, vous pourriez juste se rappeler où vous
    avez laissé à votre slip la nuit dernière. You' ; l'instruction re indique
    lui tout, mais moi blâme une partie de elle sur votre logiciel de dragon.

    Ayez une grande vie !

    Vous pauvre enfant mal orienté


    Just a goodbye note from me as I know how much you enjoy French. ;-)


    andy t
     
  4. Mark Conrad

    Mark Conrad Guest

    In article <uYKgBExKKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, andy t
    <none-of@your-businesseither.invalid> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Okay Mark you win. Whatever you say.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    That is no fun!

    Seriously, every speech recognition app has its
    own unique advantages. (and disadvantages)

    You sir, have tunnel vision and emotional
    attachment to one particular speech app.

    FWIW, others have the same tunnel vision and
    emotional attachment to Dragon, poor souls.

    I myself can not afford to have such an attitude,
    because that would defeat what I am trying to do.


    On Another Subject
    ************
    I am making great progress on my preparations
    for "The Great Test" of WSR.

    That test is just a few days away.

    I am taking extreme measures to make certain
    it is a fair test.

    In other words, the WSR app will not "see" the test
    article until the very last minute, so none of your
    famous "repetition" objections will apply.


    All my preparations for this test are aimed at making
    certain that individual words such as "epithelium" are
    added to the WSR speech vocabulary.

    I am suffering minor setbacks due to WSRs lack of
    custom advanced options, e.g. the abbreviation "mg/kg".
    (milligrams per kilogram)

    I had to create a text macro to handle that situation.

    As you know, text macros for trivial situations like
    this slow down the speed performance of WSR, but I had
    no reasonable alternative.

    Mark-
     
  5. John Doe

    John Doe Guest

    Mark Conrad <none-of@your-business.invalid> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > andy t <none-of@your-businesseither.invalid> wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Okay Mark you win. Whatever you say. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > You sir, have tunnel vision and emotional attachment to one
    > particular speech app. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    He has the vile trappings of a Marty sock puppet.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > FWIW, others have the same tunnel vision and emotional
    > attachment to Dragon, poor souls. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Like Martin Markoe, until he started making money from selling
    Windows Speech Recognition add-ons.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I myself can not afford to have such an attitude because that
    > would defeat what I am trying to do. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I am controlling my PC and dictating, efficiently. Currently using
    Dragon NaturallySpeaking version 7 and Dragonfly. Dragonfly is a
    must-have macro playback utility (currently usable only by python
    programmers or highly skilled techies, while the programmer is
    allegedly working on a user-friendly version) that allows
    continuous command recognition. Continuous command recognition
    allows speaking command phrases naturally just like continuous
    speech recognition allowed speaking human phrases naturally. That
    means you can produce a list of command words and combine them on
    the fly just like you do with an ordinary human language. That
    makes a huge difference. Adding a single word to the stupid
    computer's vocabulary significantly increases its function when
    combined with the other words. The version of DNS does not really
    matter (I could use 8, 9, or 10). Unfortunately, Windows Speech
    Recognition does not work at all for making Windows dance (command
    and control), it is awkward. I tried using WSR with Vocala (that
    allows CCR) but Vocala is lacking some necessary low level
    functions like holding down a mouse button or a shift key.
     
  6. "John Doe" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Like Martin Markoe, until he started making money from selling
    > Windows Speech Recognition add-ons. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Are you saying the WSRToolkit that adds 7 useful functions in one easy to
    use interface is bad? After spending thousands of dollars in development
    costs and offering it for $15.99 do you think I will be making millions of
    dollars?

    Marty Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc.
    See us at:

    PS. Mr. Doe, if you would like a complimentary copy of the WSRToolkit, send
    a private message through our website and you can judge for yourself.
     

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