Vista oversized fonts problem

Hi all!

The Fonts on my vista install seem to be larger than they should be.
When I open dialog boxes the text extend past the edge of the window and
gets cut off. The DPI is set to default but the setting also has a
strike through it. (see image), also notice the text extending the form.


If i change the setting to 120 dpi there is a noticeable difference.

I've looked everywhere and can't find anything on this!!

Any input would be great!!

thanks!


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snowboarding12

 

I know this post's old but I recently had this issue, and figured out
what was wrong.

I'm posting the solution since I didn't find any help on the Interweb
except this post kept popping up, this might help others.

Short version; you're missing Segoe UI fonts.

Long story, the clue for me was the strikethrough on the Default scale.
Clicking on the button that's barely visible on the lower right, shows
it's using Segoe UI font.

I checked the installed fonts and that was missing.

Copied the Segoe UI fonts from another Vista machine, and all is good.


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qirk

 

Quite a few replies to this question, in other posts have indicated that
no one sees this as a problem. I do. I've worked with fonts for more
than 20 years -- I know what font files do and what they are supposed to
look like. I also know that there is no conceivable reason why an
attempt to delete these bloated things would be "denied" or if they are
even fonts at all! I want them off may machine! Has anyone out there
actually run a debug on these, or looked at the code? 15 Mbytes is
ridiculous -- I would almost expect to find a kernel os applet hidden
inside these. MS has an amazing amount of cohones to expect us to
accept their inclusion of useless "fonts" like these. I don't need to
have a Thai font installed, and I shouldn't have to accept it.


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kivatrader

 

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:46:45 -0500, kivatrader
<guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>Quite a few replies to this question, in other posts have indicated that
>no one sees this as a problem. I do. I've worked with fonts for more
>than 20 years -- I know what font files do and what they are supposed to
>look like. I also know that there is no conceivable reason why an
>attempt to delete these bloated things would be "denied" or if they are
>even fonts at all! I want them off may machine! Has anyone out there
>actually run a debug on these, or looked at the code? 15 Mbytes is
>ridiculous -- I would almost expect to find a kernel os applet hidden
>inside these. MS has an amazing amount of cohones to expect us to
>accept their inclusion of useless "fonts" like these. I don't need to
>have a Thai font installed, and I shouldn't have to accept it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You can delete them, you just have to change the protections and/or
take ownership. As part of the MS security band-aids in Vista, they
removed your priv's to the fonts directory & files. There's no sense
to it: basically they just removed your access to everything, then
enabled it to your specific user directories (Rather than fix their
architectural flaws so that they could implement file protections in a
sensible manner).

You're right - some have suggested that the size of those files is due
to the number of characters in the Asian languages - but they still
seem to be extraordinarily large for font files when you extrapolate
the numbers. I suspect there are other issues with the file design,
but it's not really worth pondering. Just remove them if you don't
want them.

 

Well, thanks -- I've tried deleting them, I've tried changing the
permissions, I've tried using the command prompt as administrator
(which, of course, I am if anyone is!) and I've tried doing it from Safe
mode command prompt, all with the same result: access denied. If I
could disable the system protection, I would, but I'm not sure how. Any
further help?


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kivatrader

 

+Bob+ wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:46:45 -0500, kivatrader
> <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>Quite a few replies to this question, in other posts have indicated that
>>no one sees this as a problem. I do. I've worked with fonts for more
>>than 20 years -- I know what font files do and what they are supposed to
>>look like. I also know that there is no conceivable reason why an
>>attempt to delete these bloated things would be "denied" or if they are
>>even fonts at all! I want them off may machine! Has anyone out there
>>actually run a debug on these, or looked at the code? 15 Mbytes is
>>ridiculous -- I would almost expect to find a kernel os applet hidden
>>inside these. MS has an amazing amount of cohones to expect us to
>>accept their inclusion of useless "fonts" like these. I don't need to
>>have a Thai font installed, and I shouldn't have to accept it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You can delete them, you just have to change the protections and/or
> take ownership. As part of the MS security band-aids in Vista, they
> removed your priv's to the fonts directory & files. There's no sense
> to it: basically they just removed your access to everything, then
> enabled it to your specific user directories (Rather than fix their
> architectural flaws so that they could implement file protections in a
> sensible manner).
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Sounds like the linux home folder.
Its the only one a USER has all access to.
The rest need root.

Where do you f-ing morons come from?

UAC is all over linux....yet you whine here.



<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> You're right - some have suggested that the size of those files is due
> to the number of characters in the Asian languages - but they still
> seem to be extraordinarily large for font files when you extrapolate
> the numbers. I suspect there are other issues with the file design,
> but it's not really worth pondering. Just remove them if you don't
> want them.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

WTF??? Listen, you self-important little nerd jerk-o__....I earn my
living with my computer. I've done so since Windows 286, which is
probably before you were even a gleam in your daddy's eye! Don't waste
my time, and the forum's space with Bullsh_t comments like that. I
asked a legitimate question -- that's what forums are for, not for
arrogant little fu_ks to try and make their weenies bigger with crass
pronouncements like that one. Grow up, and try to act like an adult.


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kivatrader

 

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:17:55 -0500, kivatrader
<guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>Well, thanks -- I've tried deleting them, I've tried changing the
>permissions, I've tried using the command prompt as administrator
>(which, of course, I am if anyone is!) and I've tried doing it from Safe
>mode command prompt, all with the same result: access denied. If I
>could disable the system protection, I would, but I'm not sure how. Any
>further help?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Did you take ownership of the fonts directory and the font files? Does
it show you as owner? Sometimes I've needed a reboot after doing this,
but I've always been able to delete anything I've needed to remove. By
default they are owned by "trusted installer".

Also, have you tried enabling the "real" administrator account vs. the
pseudo user-administrator?

 

On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:23:55 -0400, Vlad-the-Impaler
<vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>Sounds like the linux home folder.
>Its the only one a USER has all access to.
>The rest need root.
>
>Where do you f-ing morons come from?
>
>UAC is all over linux....yet you whine here.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Your ignorance is astounding - you really should not post and
highlight it.

 

"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
news:1g9b35tbpgru7st61qgg6muh498rt7rpdj@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:23:55 -0400, Vlad-the-Impaler
> <vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>Sounds like the linux home folder.
>>Its the only one a USER has all access to.
>>The rest need root.
>>
>>Where do you f-ing morons come from?
>>
>>UAC is all over linux....yet you whine here.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Your ignorance is astounding - you really should not post and
> highlight it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


No, I know what I am bitching about.
You're sissy ass whines about nothing.

UAC is unobtrusive compared to linux.

Unless you su, which is not recommended anyway.

Get a clue, cause you need one.

 

+Bob+;1066198 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:17:55 -0500, kivatrader
> <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > >
> > >
> > >Well, thanks -- I've tried deleting them, I've tried changing the
> > >permissions, I've tried using the command prompt as administrator
> > >(which, of course, I am if anyone is!) and I've tried doing it from<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > Safe<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > >mode command prompt, all with the same result: access denied. If I
> > >could disable the system protection, I would, but I'm not sure how.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > Any<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > >further help? > > Did you take ownership of the fonts directory and the font files? Does<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> it show you as owner? Sometimes I've needed a reboot after doing
> this,
> but I've always been able to delete anything I've needed to remove.
> By
> default they are owned by "trusted installer".
>
> Also, have you tried enabling the "real" administrator account vs.
> the
> pseudo user-administrator?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Two questions -- I thought I had , but how do I determine if I am the
"owner" of that directory, and how do I enable the "real"administrator
account?


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kivatrader

 

On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:50:33 -0400, "Vlad-the-Impaler"
<vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>No, I know what I am bitching about.
>You're sissy ass whines about nothing.
>
>UAC is unobtrusive compared to linux.
>
>Unless you su, which is not recommended anyway.
>
>Get a clue, cause you need one. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You lack any understanding of the difference between "security
architecture" and "security band-aid".

 

On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:20:05 -0500, kivatrader
<guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>Two questions -- I thought I had , but how do I determine if I am the
>"owner" of that directory, and how do I enable the "real"administrator
>account?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Real admin:




To take ownership:

I use method two, option two, because I am an old school Windows user,
but you can use one of the easier methods. My preferred method will
probably teach you a bit more about WNT file system security, which
isn't a bad thing.