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Vista Backup & Restore

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by Andee39, Oct 16, 2009.

  1. Andee39

    Andee39 Guest

    Hi,
    I recently had to have Vista Business reinstalled b/c my computer crashed.
    I have a complete backup on an external drive using Vista Backup & Restore
    (keeping my fingers crossed it is a good one) but it is from several months
    ago so I decided to have the tech that was checking out my computer do a
    backup before reinstall. Unfortunately, he couldn't backup everything and I
    am missing quite a bit of stuff. I have no idea how the complete restore
    would work. Am I able to select certain data to restore? Does it restore
    things back to their original location?
    Thanks.
     
  2. whs

    whs Guest

  3. nomore

    nomore Guest

    Le Vista Backup does not clone your hard drive.
    It will back up that which you select and you must check to see it has been
    done and is readable. The latter is true for all archiving systems.
    There are various schemes for backing up individual files, locally or web
    based or both.
    Serious users should perform an entire hard drive back-up periodically, at
    least once anyway, that can be cloned back to a new hard drive should the
    situation arise.
    Freeware programs such as Drive Image xml are more than adequate and there
    are several good commercial packages.
     
  4. Andee39

    Andee39 Guest

    In the Vista Backup & Restore program you have a choice of backing up
    specific folders (I don't remember exactly how it is worded) or a complete
    backup of your computer. I did the complete backup. Doesn't that make a
    clone of your system?

    "nomore" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Le Vista Backup does not clone your hard drive.
    > It will back up that which you select and you must check to see it has been
    > done and is readable. The latter is true for all archiving systems.
    > There are various schemes for backing up individual files, locally or web
    > based or both.
    > Serious users should perform an entire hard drive back-up periodically, at
    > least once anyway, that can be cloned back to a new hard drive should the
    > situation arise.
    > Freeware programs such as Drive Image xml are more than adequate and there
    > are several good commercial packages.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:34:01 -0700, Andee39
    <Andee39@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:



    Several points interspersed below, mostly for your future use of
    computers.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I recently had to have Vista Business reinstalled b/c my computer crashed. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    You didn't provide any details about the crash, but for the future,
    let me point out that most crashes can be fixed far more easily than
    reinstalling Windows. Sometimes reinstallation *is* necessary, but it
    should be a last resort, to be only done after other attempts by a
    competent person at solving the problem have failed.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I have a complete backup on an external drive using Vista Backup & Restore
    > (keeping my fingers crossed it is a good one) but it is from several months
    > ago <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Three points here:

    1. An external drive *is* a good place to backup to.

    2. The built-in Windows backup is just about the poorest choice of
    backup software available. If your data is important to you, it's
    worth spending a little money for an excellent product like Acronis
    True Image.

    3. If you perform backups several months apart, and your data is
    important to you, you are playing with fire. I can't tell you how
    often to back up, because I don't know what your data is or how
    volatile it is. But most people probably should back up at least once
    a week or so.


    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > so I decided to have the tech that was checking out my computer<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Who is this tech? What company does he work for? How did you choose
    him and his company?

    Avoid the Geek Squad (which is terrible) and anyone else from one of
    the big box stores. The best service usually comes from a small local
    establishment, and you should find who to use by recommends from
    trusted friends or, even better, from a local PC Users Group, if their
    is one.


    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > do a
    > backup before reinstall. Unfortunately, he couldn't backup everything and I
    > am missing quite a bit of stuff. I have no idea how the complete restore
    > would work. Am I able to select certain data to restore? Does it restore
    > things back to their original location?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->



    I can't tell you much about the built-in Vista backup, which I don't
    use, but perhaps someone else here can give you more details.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  6. No. A clone is in essence a sector-by-sector copy of the entire hard drive,
    including the boot sector and the OS and all the file-system management
    stuff.

    A complete backup might mean just a copy of all the data folders and files
    with no boot sector or file system stuff. It might even lack the OS, and
    even all programs, depending on which program and which options you choose.

    On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:52:01 -0700, Andee39 wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > In the Vista Backup & Restore program you have a choice of backing up
    > specific folders (I don't remember exactly how it is worded) or a complete
    > backup of your computer. I did the complete backup. Doesn't that make a
    > clone of your system?
    >
    > "nomore" wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Le Vista Backup does not clone your hard drive.
    >> It will back up that which you select and you must check to see it has been
    >> done and is readable. The latter is true for all archiving systems.
    >> There are various schemes for backing up individual files, locally or web
    >> based or both.
    >> Serious users should perform an entire hard drive back-up periodically, at
    >> least once anyway, that can be cloned back to a new hard drive should the
    >> situation arise.
    >> Freeware programs such as Drive Image xml are more than adequate and there
    >> are several good commercial packages.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    --
    Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom
     
  7. "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
    news:tvehd5dj5n24dvlo9cqqlp7o62t7ip3dq3@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:34:01 -0700, Andee39
    > <Andee39@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    > Several points interspersed below, mostly for your future use of
    > computers.
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I recently had to have Vista Business reinstalled b/c my computer
    >> crashed.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > You didn't provide any details about the crash, but for the future,
    > let me point out that most crashes can be fixed far more easily than
    > reinstalling Windows. Sometimes reinstallation *is* necessary, but it
    > should be a last resort, to be only done after other attempts by a
    > competent person at solving the problem have failed.
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I have a complete backup on an external drive using Vista Backup &
    >> Restore
    >> (keeping my fingers crossed it is a good one) but it is from several
    >> months
    >> ago<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Three points here:
    >
    > 1. An external drive *is* a good place to backup to.
    >
    > 2. The built-in Windows backup is just about the poorest choice of
    > backup software available. If your data is important to you, it's
    > worth spending a little money for an excellent product like Acronis
    > True Image.
    >
    > 3. If you perform backups several months apart, and your data is
    > important to you, you are playing with fire. I can't tell you how
    > often to back up, because I don't know what your data is or how
    > volatile it is. But most people probably should back up at least once
    > a week or so.
    >
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> so I decided to have the tech that was checking out my computer<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Who is this tech? What company does he work for? How did you choose
    > him and his company?
    >
    > Avoid the Geek Squad (which is terrible) and anyone else from one of
    > the big box stores. The best service usually comes from a small local
    > establishment, and you should find who to use by recommends from
    > trusted friends or, even better, from a local PC Users Group, if their
    > is one.
    >
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> do a
    >> backup before reinstall. Unfortunately, he couldn't backup everything
    >> and I
    >> am missing quite a bit of stuff. I have no idea how the complete restore
    >> would work. Am I able to select certain data to restore? Does it
    >> restore
    >> things back to their original location?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    >
    > I can't tell you much about the built-in Vista backup, which I don't
    > use, but perhaps someone else here can give you more details.
    >
    > --
    > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > Please Reply to the Newsgroup<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Vista Ultimate will back up most of the contents of the computer, it is not
    a cloner.
    Vista Home will back up documents.
    For both versions, you can have it automatically back up on any frequency
    that you choose. They only back up documents (files) that have been revised
    since the prior back up.

    Both will restore selectively.

    However, if you have had Vista Ultimate you can't back up to Vista Home
    Premium. I balks and if you force the restore, it will place 96,000 files on
    your computer that are protected. It took me a couple of weeks to get a
    workable system again.
     

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