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Virtual PC 2007 with Windows ME - Where to place virtual disk

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com, Jul 7, 2009.

  1. CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com

    CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com Guest

    Am I correct in assuming that, for Windows ME to run in a Virtual PC 2007
    window, the Windows ME virtual disk must be located inside a disk partition
    that is FAT32? On a test run, I tried to install WinME on a virtual disk in
    a folder that was in my normal Vista partition (NTFS), and it didn't get far.
    I tried placing the WinME virtual disk inside an FAT32 partition, and
    although I didn't finish the installation process, I got that far, with the
    WinME instalation screen having popped up and ready for installation.

    One other thing: Is it possible to place the WinME virtual disk inside a
    logical FAT32 partition? Or must it be a primary partition?

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    CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com, Jul 7, 2009
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  3. Guest

    Virtual disk can be anywhere on any format.

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    "CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com" <u50174@uwe> wrote in message
    news:98bd731615106@uwe...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Am I correct in assuming that, for Windows ME to run in a Virtual PC 2007
    > window, the Windows ME virtual disk must be located inside a disk
    > partition
    > that is FAT32? On a test run, I tried to install WinME on a virtual disk
    > in
    > a folder that was in my normal Vista partition (NTFS), and it didn't get
    > far.
    > I tried placing the WinME virtual disk inside an FAT32 partition, and
    > although I didn't finish the installation process, I got that far, with
    > the
    > WinME instalation screen having popped up and ready for installation.
    >
    > One other thing: Is it possible to place the WinME virtual disk inside a
    > logical FAT32 partition? Or must it be a primary partition?
    >
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    , Jul 7, 2009
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  4. Dusko Savatovic

    Dusko Savatovic Guest

    In line...

    "CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com" <u50174@uwe> wrote in message
    news:98bd731615106@uwe...
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Am I correct in assuming that, for Windows ME to run in a Virtual PC 2007
    > window, the Windows ME virtual disk must be located inside a disk
    > partition
    > that is FAT32?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    No, virtual disk does not need to be located in FAT32 volume. In fact, this
    can be a problem because FAT32 can not accomodate files greater than 2GB and
    your .vhd file can be greater than 2GB.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On a test run, I tried to install WinME on a virtual disk in
    > a folder that was in my normal Vista partition (NTFS), and it didn't get
    > far.
    > I tried placing the WinME virtual disk inside an FAT32 partition, and
    > although I didn't finish the installation process, I got that far, with
    > the
    > WinME instalation screen having popped up and ready for installation.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    How far did you get. I installed some vintage OS's in my VPC 2007 without
    any problems.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > One other thing: Is it possible to place the WinME virtual disk inside a
    > logical FAT32 partition? Or must it be a primary partition?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    It doesn't matter. Virtual disk is just a file (.vhd) that can be placed
    anywhere. In fact, I would avoid FAT32 volumes regardless of them being on
    primary partition, logical drive inside of extended partition, or on a
    dynamic volume. The only place I tolerate FAT32 is on USB flash drive.
     
    Dusko Savatovic, Jul 8, 2009
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  5. Manny Weisbord

    Manny Weisbord Guest

    "Dusko Savatovic" <nospam.savatovic@gmail.com> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >No, virtual disk does not need to be located in FAT32 volume. In fact, this
    >can be a problem because FAT32 can not accomodate files greater than 2GB and
    >your .vhd file can be greater than 2GB.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    4GB, not 2GB.
     
    Manny Weisbord, Jul 8, 2009
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  6. Dusko Savatovic

    Dusko Savatovic Guest

    "Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    news:e5k855p960s1h5elo9q7vhhktpude75imi@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Dusko Savatovic" <nospam.savatovic@gmail.com> wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>No, virtual disk does not need to be located in FAT32 volume. In fact,
    >>this
    >>can be a problem because FAT32 can not accomodate files greater than 2GB
    >>and
    >>your .vhd file can be greater than 2GB.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > 4GB, not 2GB.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Thanks Manny, I was wrong, but to split hairs, the correct statement is:
    4GB minus 2 Bytes
    :)
     
    Dusko Savatovic, Jul 8, 2009
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  7. Tim Slattery

    Tim Slattery Guest

    "Dusko Savatovic" <nospam.savatovic@gmail.com> wrote:
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    >In line...
    >
    >"CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com" <u50174@uwe> wrote in message
    >news:98bd731615106@uwe...
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Am I correct in assuming that, for Windows ME to run in a Virtual PC 2007
    >> window, the Windows ME virtual disk must be located inside a disk
    >> partition
    >> that is FAT32?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >No, virtual disk does not need to be located in FAT32 volume. In fact, this
    >can be a problem because FAT32 can not accomodate files greater than 2GB and
    >your .vhd file can be greater than 2GB.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You're off a little bit. FAT32 can handle files up to 4GB. Probably
    still smaller then your virtual machine will be.

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    Tim Slattery
    MS MVP(Shell/User)
    Slattery_T@bls.gov
     
    Tim Slattery, Jul 8, 2009
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  8. CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com

    CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com Guest

    Tim Slattery wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>In line...
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>can be a problem because FAT32 can not accomodate files greater than 2GB and
    >>your .vhd file can be greater than 2GB.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >You're off a little bit. FAT32 can handle files up to 4GB. Probably
    >still smaller then your virtual machine will be.
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    I thought FAT32 could handle ANYTHING up to 137GB, the limit for an FAT32
    hard disk partition.

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    CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com, Jul 8, 2009
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  9. CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com

    CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com Guest

    Dusko Savatovic wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >In line...
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Am I correct in assuming that, for Windows ME to run in a Virtual PC 2007
    >> window, the Windows ME virtual disk must be located inside a disk
    >> partition
    >> that is FAT32?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >No, virtual disk does not need to be located in FAT32 volume. In fact, this
    >can be a problem because FAT32 can not accomodate files greater than 2GB and
    >your .vhd file can be greater than 2GB.
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> On a test run, I tried to install WinME on a virtual disk in
    >> a folder that was in my normal Vista partition (NTFS), and it didn't get <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> the
    >> WinME instalation screen having popped up and ready for installation.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >How far did you get. I installed some vintage OS's in my VPC 2007 without
    >any problems.
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> One other thing: Is it possible to place the WinME virtual disk inside a
    >> logical FAT32 partition? Or must it be a primary partition?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >It doesn't matter. Virtual disk is just a file (.vhd) that can be placed
    >anywhere. In fact, I would avoid FAT32 volumes regardless of them being on
    >primary partition, logical drive inside of extended partition, or on a
    >dynamic volume. The only place I tolerate FAT32 is on USB flash drive.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    When I reconfigure my hard drive, I'll test this scenario of yours again and
    let you know. First time I tried to install WinME on a virtual drive in
    Vista, I didn't get far. I even tried to format the virtual hard drive file
    inside my VPC2007 window, and still the WinME setup routine wouldn't start.
    It worked when I placed my virtual hard drive in an FAT32 partition.

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    CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com, Jul 8, 2009
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  10. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Guest

    On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:16:21 GMT, "CookyMonzta via WindowsKB.com"
    <u50174@uwe> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Tim Slattery wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >>In line...
    > >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >>can be a problem because FAT32 can not accomodate files greater than 2GB and
    > >>your .vhd file can be greater than 2GB.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >
    > >You're off a little bit. FAT32 can handle files up to 4GB. Probably
    > >still smaller then your virtual machine will be.
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > I thought FAT32 could handle ANYTHING up to 137GB, the limit for an FAT32
    > hard disk partition.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Sorry, but that's wrong. Two points here:

    1. 137GB is *not* the limit for a FAT32 partition. It can support much
    larger partitions, but you need two things to support a drive over
    that size:

    a. A motherboard with a BIOS and controller that supports 48-bit LBA
    (or alternatively, an add-in controller card that does).

    b. At least SP1 of Windows XP.

    2. Regardless of the size of the partition, a file on a FAT32
    partition can not be larger than 4GB, as Tim Slattery says above.

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    Ken Blake, MVP, Jul 8, 2009
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