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Upgrading to Windows 7 from Vista Home Premium...

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by ross m. greenberg, Sep 27, 2009.

  1. My son is running Vista Home Premium onto his machine and just downloaded
    Windows 7/RTM and he wants to install it desperately. I'm hesitant to do so:
    it's easy to "uninstall" Windows 7 and revert back to Home Premium if he
    thinks that he made a mistake?

    Thanks.

    Ross M. Greenberg
     
  2. Leroy

    Leroy Guest

    To revert back from Windows 7 to Windows Vista, you'll need to reformat
    the drive or partition and perform a "clean install" of Windows Vista.
    The easiest solution is to purchase and install a second hard drive and
    install Windows 7 on it. This will require a "Full License" edition of
    Windows 7. Thus, you'll have a dual-boot configuration allowing you the
    option of booting to Windows 7 or Windows Vista.


    ross m. greenberg wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > My son is running Vista Home Premium onto his machine and just downloaded
    > Windows 7/RTM and he wants to install it desperately. I'm hesitant to do so:
    > it's easy to "uninstall" Windows 7 and revert back to Home Premium if he
    > thinks that he made a mistake?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Ross M. Greenberg
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:44:02 -0400, "ross m. greenberg"
    <greenber@@gmail.com> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > My son is running Vista Home Premium onto his machine and just downloaded
    > Windows 7/RTM and he wants to install it desperately. I'm hesitant to do so:
    > it's easy to "uninstall" Windows 7 and revert back to Home Premium if he
    > thinks that he made a mistake?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    He would have to install Windows 7 in a dual-boot scenario.

    But here's my point of view: as much as I liked Windows Vista, I like
    Windows 7 even more, and I've seen no problems with it at all. I think
    the risk of wanting to go back to Vista is very slim.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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  4. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Guest

    Ross

    A formatting and a clean install will be required either way, Why not Dual boot
    until he decides which one he will stay with.

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    "ross m. greenberg" <greenber@@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:B03BA318-5BE7-4683-893C-9BB006F915F0@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > My son is running Vista Home Premium onto his machine and just downloaded Windows
    > 7/RTM and he wants to install it desperately. I'm hesitant to do so: it's easy to
    > "uninstall" Windows 7 and revert back to Home Premium if he thinks that he made a
    > mistake?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Ross M. Greenberg
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. Rick Rogers

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi Ross,

    He would have to image the existing system and store the file on a separate
    drive or other removable media and be prepared to replace it if unhappy with
    Win7 (which I doubt, but the possibility exists). There is no uninstalling
    an upgrade to an NT-based system as there was with Win9x.

    I would also question how he obtained the RTM release, as it is not
    generally available to the public yet. It is only currently available to
    Technet/MSDN subscribers, those that were on the technical beta, and certain
    OEM manufacturers.

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

    Windows help -

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    "ross m. greenberg" <greenber@@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:B03BA318-5BE7-4683-893C-9BB006F915F0@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > My son is running Vista Home Premium onto his machine and just downloaded
    > Windows 7/RTM and he wants to install it desperately. I'm hesitant to do
    > so: it's easy to "uninstall" Windows 7 and revert back to Home Premium if
    > he thinks that he made a mistake?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Ross M. Greenberg
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  6. <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I would also question how he obtained the RTM release, as it is not
    > generally available to the public yet. It is only currently available to
    > Technet/MSDN subscribers, those that were on the technical beta, and
    > certain OEM manufacturers.
    >
    > --
    > Best of Luck,
    >
    > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    >
    > Windows help -

    > Vote for my shoe:
    <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I am a member of MSDN and so I downloaded the RTM and cut a DVD. My son saw
    the DVD, saw the label I put on it -- "Windows 7-RTM" -- and immediately try
    to claim as his own. Teenagers! :)

    Ross
     
  7. What about using a Virtual Machine?

    Ross
     
  8. Rick Rogers

    Rick Rogers Guest

    That would certainly work, but to take over the system would require another
    installation. He wouldn't be able to port it from the virtual drive to the
    physical system.

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

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    "ross m. greenberg" <greenber@@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:C214D0D9-B8F6-4474-AF79-BC52F9672C04@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > What about using a Virtual Machine?
    >
    > Ross
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  9. Gary Herman

    Gary Herman Guest

    Windows Vista 64-bit - problem booting up

    I have experienced problems booting my new Windows Vista - Dell Inspiron 15
    laptop... Getting a blue screen and then it reboots repeatedly. Any idea
    what the problem could be? Thanks!

    Gary Herman
     
  10. Rick Rogers

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Re: Windows Vista 64-bit - problem booting up

    What is the text of the blue screen, Gary? When did it start? What were you
    doing with the system prior to this issue? Did you install or upgrade any
    software or the OS recently?

    Hit F8 at boot to access the boot menu, can you load safe mode? How about
    the last known good configuration?

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

    Windows help -

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    "Gary Herman" <gherman222@charter.net> wrote in message
    news:ObcEbJ5PKHA.1796@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I have experienced problems booting my new Windows Vista - Dell Inspiron 15
    >laptop... Getting a blue screen and then it reboots repeatedly. Any idea
    >what the problem could be? Thanks!
    >
    > Gary Herman <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  11. Dorango

    Dorango Guest

    On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:41:49 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Ross
    >
    >A formatting and a clean install will be required either way, <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    No it won't, you can do an in-place upgrade from Vista > Win7 but it
    is not the recommended method.
     
  12. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Guest

    Ok smart one then how does he (as the OP asks) revert back to Vista. I gave the
    right answer as did others

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    "Dorango" <dorango@NO_EMAIL.HERE> wrote in message
    news:1mmvb5pcpl0uuvq8of6cesm1r50p2omsv0@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:41:49 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>Ross
    >>
    >>A formatting and a clean install will be required either way,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > No it won't, you can do an in-place upgrade from Vista > Win7 but it
    > is not the recommended method. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  13. Rick Rogers

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Um, if it's not reconmmended, then why does Microsoft provide this path?
    While some recommend a clean install only, I rarely do. An upgrade will be
    just fine if the system was working just fine to begin with. The vast
    majority of failed upgrades are the result of a) upgrading a system that has
    unsupported hardware, [​IMG] upgrading a system that has unsupported software,
    and c) upgrading a system that is already having software/hardware issues.

    When properly prepared for, upgrading a system is by far the easiest route
    for a large number of consumers.

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

    Windows help -

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    "Dorango" <dorango@NO_EMAIL.HERE> wrote in message
    news:1mmvb5pcpl0uuvq8of6cesm1r50p2omsv0@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:41:49 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>Ross
    >>
    >>A formatting and a clean install will be required either way,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > No it won't, you can do an in-place upgrade from Vista > Win7 but it
    > is not the recommended method. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  14. JIM FUTRELL

    JIM FUTRELL Guest

    DID YOU BUY WINDOWS 7 OR DOWNLOAD IT FROM MICROSOFT?
    "ross m. greenberg" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > My son is running Vista Home Premium onto his machine and just downloaded
    > Windows 7/RTM and he wants to install it desperately. I'm hesitant to do so:
    > it's easy to "uninstall" Windows 7 and revert back to Home Premium if he
    > thinks that he made a mistake?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Ross M. Greenberg
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  15. Rick Rogers

    Rick Rogers Guest

  16. On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:35:29 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Ok smart one then how does he (as the OP asks) revert back to Vista. I gave the
    >right answer as did others<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You said "either way". Does that not mean either doing upgrade or
    downgrade requires a format? That's how it reads to me and the format
    is only required for downgrading from Win7 > Vista.
     
  17. On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:11:53 -0400, "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org>
    wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Um, if it's not reconmmended, then why does Microsoft provide this path?
    >While some recommend a clean install only, I rarely do. An upgrade will be
    >just fine if the system was working just fine to begin with. The vast
    >majority of failed upgrades are the result of a) upgrading a system that has
    >unsupported hardware, [​IMG] upgrading a system that has unsupported software,
    >and c) upgrading a system that is already having software/hardware issues.
    >
    >When properly prepared for, upgrading a system is by far the easiest route
    >for a large number of consumers.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I've never done it that way but you are correct that there should be
    no issues so long as the drivers are compatible. Sometimes they are
    not though and it causes people grief. Personally, I just like to
    start off with a clean OS from scratch so it is my choice.
     
  18. whs

    whs Guest

    ross m. greenberg;1146358 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > My son is running Vista Home Premium onto his machine and just
    > downloaded
    > Windows 7/RTM and he wants to install it desperately. I'm hesitant to
    > do so:
    > it's easy to "uninstall" Windows 7 and revert back to Home Premium if
    > he
    > thinks that he made a mistake?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    > Ross M. Greenberg<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I think the best suggestion was to install it in a virtual partition
    running on the Vista host. That way you need not fumble around repairing
    boot records etc. when you want to uninstall it - you just delete 2
    folders in your Vista. Plus you can run both systems side by side and
    switch back and forth with one click. I recommend to use Sun Virtual
    Box. Here are instructions on how to go about it: 'Tutorial: How to
    install Windows7 in a Virtual Partition « How-To Geek Forums'
    ()

    PS: When it comes to allocating RAM for Win7 in the virtual partition,
    1GB or even 800MBs is enough. My Win7 uses only 500MBs.


    --
    whs
     
  19. Dorango wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:41:49 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Ross
    >>
    >> A formatting and a clean install will be required either way, <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > No it won't, you can do an in-place upgrade from Vista > Win7 but it
    > is not the recommended method.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Not recommended by whom, precisely?

    Granted, some people will always blindly recommend that one always
    perform a clean installation, rather than upgrade over an earlier OS.
    For the most part, I feel that these people, while usually well-meaning,
    are living in the past, and are either basing their recommendation on
    their experiences with much older operating systems, or are simply
    inexperienced and uninformed.

    Certainly, there are times when an in-place upgrade is
    contra-indicated:

    1) When the underlying hardware isn't certified as being fully
    compatible with the newer OS, and/or updated device drivers are not
    available from the device's manufacturer. Of course, this condition also
    causes problems with clean installations.

    2) When the original OS is corrupt, damaged, and/or virus/malware
    infested. I've also seen simple, straight-forward upgrades from WinXP
    Home to WinXP Pro fail because the computer owner had let the system
    become malware-infested. Upgrading over a problematic OS isn't normally
    a wise course to establishing a stable installation.

    3) When the new OS isn't designed to properly, correctly, and safely
    perform an upgrade.

    A properly prepared and maintained PC can almost always be
    successfully upgraded by a knowledgeable and competent individual. I've
    lost count of the systems I've seen that have been upgraded from Win95
    to Win98 to Win2K to WinXP (usually with incremental hardware upgrades
    over the same time period), without the need for a clean installation,
    and that are still operating without any problems attributable to upgrades.

    Additionally, since Vista's and Win7's upgrade "mechanism" differ
    widely from that of earlier operating systems, why would you think that
    the same "old wives' tales" would apply?


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  20. On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:53:25 -0600, Bruce Chambers
    <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote:

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Not recommended by whom, precisely?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Microsoft and most power users.
     

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