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System Restore Anomaly

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by JamesJ, Sep 25, 2009.

  1. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    I'm using Vista Basic sp2
    Sometimes my System Restore dialog will be missing the area at
    and below the Recommended restore selection. The command buttons
    are ok.
    This occurred yesterday and I know it was fine in the morning 'cause I
    created 3 manual restore points one before installing 3 dvd maker
    type software.
    It seemed to happen after I opened System Restore after installing the
    third program. But I can't remember if I used System Restore after I
    installed
    the second program. (Maybe I should have uninstalled before installing)

    This and the other times it has occurred rolling back to a restore point
    fixed
    it but this time rolling back to a restore point made the previous day had
    no effect.
    It wasn't until a Definition Update for Windows Defender was installed and
    after a
    reboot did it get fixed.
    In another occurrence a couple months ago an activex update seemed to
    correct it.
    I'm nearly positive that one of the programs I installed is the culprit.

    Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomaly.
    Anyway I might avoid this in the future?

    Thanks,
    James
     
  2. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "JamesJ" <jjy_darwin@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    news:uefzNHdPKHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I'm using Vista Basic sp2
    > Sometimes my System Restore dialog will be missing the area at
    > and below the Recommended restore selection. The command buttons
    > are ok.
    > This occurred yesterday and I know it was fine in the morning 'cause I
    > created 3 manual restore points one before installing 3 dvd maker
    > type software.
    > It seemed to happen after I opened System Restore after installing the
    > third program. But I can't remember if I used System Restore after I
    > installed
    > the second program. (Maybe I should have uninstalled before installing)
    >
    > This and the other times it has occurred rolling back to a restore point
    > fixed
    > it but this time rolling back to a restore point made the previous day had
    > no effect.
    > It wasn't until a Definition Update for Windows Defender was installed and
    > after a
    > reboot did it get fixed.
    > In another occurrence a couple months ago an activex update seemed to
    > correct it.
    > I'm nearly positive that one of the programs I installed is the culprit.
    >
    > Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomaly.
    > Anyway I might avoid this in the future?
    >
    > Thanks,
    > James
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Yeah I had that happen to me today. Strange thing is it happened both on my
    laptop and desktop computer at the same time. I noticed it on my desktop
    first, so I checked the laptop. I rebooted the laptop it came back . I
    rebooted the desktop and main administrator profile I normally used
    disappeared. It booted up with a normal user profile and I had no other
    administrator access. Booted into safe-mode and even there it used my
    normal user profile. I had no administrator access and trying to enable
    administrator account didn't work. You already have to have admin access to
    reenable it. I checked User accounts in Control Panel and my admin account
    I used to use doesn't show, but using the command line it shows up, but I
    can't do anything with it. I tried booting from the Windows DVD to do a
    restore and there was only one restore point, but it put me back at the same
    spot I was after the reboot, only a regular account, no admin rights.

    I was planning on making some changes to the desktop anyway (installed RAID
    drive as boot and install Windows 7 x64) so it wasn't a huge deal though. I
    had everything backed up and ready to go for a reinstall.

    Windows 7 was no go, it doesn't recognize Gigabyte i-RAM and doesn't like
    Intel RAID, it just sits at the black screen with with version info at the
    lower-right corner with RAID enabled. It worked on my other test machine
    with AMD with Nvidia chipset and Nvidia RAID setup, so I wasn't expecting
    any trouble. Windows 7 finally worked, but only without RAID and I ended
    up going back to Windows Vista Home Basic x64, but RAID and i-RAM ramdisk
    works.

    Windows 7 RC is definitely not ready for production, at least not for me.
     
  3. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    When this happens to me and I click 'Next' in System Restore I only see
    about 4
    restore points when there should be more. Normally when I click next I get
    the
    'Confirm Restore Point' screen.

    James

    "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:B12B01D2-DBC5-47EB-9F87-B587369AE084@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "JamesJ" <jjy_darwin@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    > news:uefzNHdPKHA.3256@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I'm using Vista Basic sp2
    >> Sometimes my System Restore dialog will be missing the area at
    >> and below the Recommended restore selection. The command buttons
    >> are ok.
    >> This occurred yesterday and I know it was fine in the morning 'cause I
    >> created 3 manual restore points one before installing 3 dvd maker
    >> type software.
    >> It seemed to happen after I opened System Restore after installing the
    >> third program. But I can't remember if I used System Restore after I
    >> installed
    >> the second program. (Maybe I should have uninstalled before installing)
    >>
    >> This and the other times it has occurred rolling back to a restore point
    >> fixed
    >> it but this time rolling back to a restore point made the previous day
    >> had no effect.
    >> It wasn't until a Definition Update for Windows Defender was installed
    >> and after a
    >> reboot did it get fixed.
    >> In another occurrence a couple months ago an activex update seemed to
    >> correct it.
    >> I'm nearly positive that one of the programs I installed is the culprit.
    >>
    >> Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomaly.
    >> Anyway I might avoid this in the future?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >> James
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Yeah I had that happen to me today. Strange thing is it happened both on
    > my laptop and desktop computer at the same time. I noticed it on my
    > desktop first, so I checked the laptop. I rebooted the laptop it came
    > back . I rebooted the desktop and main administrator profile I normally
    > used disappeared. It booted up with a normal user profile and I had no
    > other administrator access. Booted into safe-mode and even there it used
    > my normal user profile. I had no administrator access and trying to
    > enable administrator account didn't work. You already have to have admin
    > access to reenable it. I checked User accounts in Control Panel and my
    > admin account I used to use doesn't show, but using the command line it
    > shows up, but I can't do anything with it. I tried booting from the
    > Windows DVD to do a restore and there was only one restore point, but it
    > put me back at the same spot I was after the reboot, only a regular
    > account, no admin rights.
    >
    > I was planning on making some changes to the desktop anyway (installed
    > RAID drive as boot and install Windows 7 x64) so it wasn't a huge deal
    > though. I had everything backed up and ready to go for a reinstall.
    >
    > Windows 7 was no go, it doesn't recognize Gigabyte i-RAM and doesn't like
    > Intel RAID, it just sits at the black screen with with version info at the
    > lower-right corner with RAID enabled. It worked on my other test machine
    > with AMD with Nvidia chipset and Nvidia RAID setup, so I wasn't expecting
    > any trouble. Windows 7 finally worked, but only without RAID and I ended
    > up going back to Windows Vista Home Basic x64, but RAID and i-RAM ramdisk
    > works.
    >
    > Windows 7 RC is definitely not ready for production, at least not for me. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. whs

    whs Guest

    JamesJ;1145424 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > When this happens to me and I click 'Next' in System Restore I only see
    > about 4
    > restore points when there should be more. Normally when I click next I
    > get
    > the
    > 'Confirm Restore Point' screen.
    >
    > James
    >
    > "Tae Song" <tae_song@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > news:B12B01D2-DBC5-47EB-9F87-B587369AE084@newsgroup> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > >
    > > > "JamesJ" <jjy_darwin@newsgroup> wrote in message
    > > > news:uefzNHdPKHA.3256@newsgroup> > > > >
    > > > >> I'm using Vista Basic sp2
    > > > >> Sometimes my System Restore dialog will be missing the area at
    > > > >> and below the Recommended restore selection. The command buttons
    > > > >> are ok.
    > > > >> This occurred yesterday and I know it was fine in the morning 'cause
    > > > I
    > > > >> created 3 manual restore points one before installing 3 dvd maker
    > > > >> type software.
    > > > >> It seemed to happen after I opened System Restore after installing
    > > > the
    > > > >> third program. But I can't remember if I used System Restore after I
    > > > >> installed
    > > > >> the second program. (Maybe I should have uninstalled before
    > > > installing)
    > > > >>
    > > > >> This and the other times it has occurred rolling back to a restore
    > > > point
    > > > >> fixed
    > > > >> it but this time rolling back to a restore point made the previous
    > > > day
    > > > >> had no effect.
    > > > >> It wasn't until a Definition Update for Windows Defender was
    > > > installed
    > > > >> and after a
    > > > >> reboot did it get fixed.
    > > > >> In another occurrence a couple months ago an activex update seemed
    > > > to
    > > > >> correct it.
    > > > >> I'm nearly positive that one of the programs I installed is the
    > > > culprit.
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this anomaly.
    > > > >> Anyway I might avoid this in the future?
    > > > >>
    > > > >> Thanks,
    > > > >> James
    > > > >>> > > >
    > > >
    > > > Yeah I had that happen to me today. Strange thing is it happened<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > both on<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > my laptop and desktop computer at the same time. I noticed it on<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > my<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > desktop first, so I checked the laptop. I rebooted the laptop it<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > came<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > back . I rebooted the desktop and main administrator profile I<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > normally<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > used disappeared. It booted up with a normal user profile and I<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > had no<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > other administrator access. Booted into safe-mode and even there<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > it used<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > my normal user profile. I had no administrator access and trying<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > to<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > enable administrator account didn't work. You already have to<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > have admin<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > access to reenable it. I checked User accounts in Control Panel<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > and my<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > admin account I used to use doesn't show, but using the command<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > line it<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > shows up, but I can't do anything with it. I tried booting from<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > the<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > Windows DVD to do a restore and there was only one restore point,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > but it<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > put me back at the same spot I was after the reboot, only a<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > regular<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > account, no admin rights.
    > > >
    > > > I was planning on making some changes to the desktop anyway<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > (installed<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > RAID drive as boot and install Windows 7 x64) so it wasn't a huge<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > deal<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > though. I had everything backed up and ready to go for a<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > reinstall.<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > >
    > > > Windows 7 was no go, it doesn't recognize Gigabyte i-RAM and<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > doesn't like<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > Intel RAID, it just sits at the black screen with with version<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > info at the<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > lower-right corner with RAID enabled. It worked on my other test<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > machine<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > with AMD with Nvidia chipset and Nvidia RAID setup, so I wasn't<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > expecting<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > any trouble. Windows 7 finally worked, but only without RAID and<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > I ended<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > up going back to Windows Vista Home Basic x64, but RAID and i-RAM<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > ramdisk<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > works.
    > > >
    > > > Windows 7 RC is definitely not ready for production, at least not<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > for me. > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    The best way to check your restore point situation is to open Command
    Prompt (Run as Admin). The type the command VSSADMIN LIST SHADOWS. That
    will list all your restore points (shadows) by date. If you like a more
    comfortable way, use Shadow Explorer ( 'ShadowExplorer.com - About'
    () ) which is also neat to recover lost
    files.


    --
    whs
     

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