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Shrink volume & create new partition using disk management console

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by rak, Jun 2, 2009.

  1. rak

    rak Guest

    Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop

    I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my HDD
    and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB partition.
    My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing primary partitions
    (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB. The other (C) makes up
    the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free space.

    When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is available
    to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB allocated to
    it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more shrinkage ;>) space
    available? Two, assuming that with your help I can find more space, if I
    try to create a 16GB partition from C will I significantly affect computer
    performance?
     
  2. TheBiG

    TheBiG Guest

    rak wrote:
    > Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >
    > I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my
    > HDD and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB
    > partition. My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing
    > primary partitions (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB.
    > The other (C) makes up the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free space.
    >
    > When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is
    > available to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB
    > allocated to it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more
    > shrinkage ;>) space available? Two, assuming that with your help I can
    > find more space, if I try to create a 16GB partition from C will I
    > significantly affect computer performance?



    the disk shrink of vista is so basic that its useless...
    First they make an OS that bloats the disk with crap, then they make a
    half baked shrinkage tool... what a disgrace vista is....

    You need to either defragment your drive with a defragmenter that will
    move everything towards the beginning of your disk (the build in one of
    vista doesnt do sht) or you must use a real partitioning software like
    paragon partition manager
     
  3. On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:12:17 -0400, "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote:

    >Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >
    >I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my HDD
    >and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB partition.
    >My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing primary partitions
    >(expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB. The other (C) makes up
    >the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free space.
    >
    >When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is available
    >to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB allocated to
    >it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more shrinkage ;>) space
    >available? Two, assuming that with your help I can find more space, if I
    >try to create a 16GB partition from C will I significantly affect computer
    >performance?



    You will no doubt need a third-party partition manager. Vista's disk
    manager will only let you shrink until it runs into a file on your
    drive that it can't move.

    Try EASEUS partition manger. It's free.

    Google it.
     
  4. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    news:smeVl.109604$uD3.101396@newsfe20.iad...
    > Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >
    > I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my HDD
    > and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB partition.
    > My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing primary partitions
    > (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB. The other (C) makes up
    > the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free space.
    >
    > When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is
    > available to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB
    > allocated to it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more
    > shrinkage ;>) space available? Two, assuming that with your help I can
    > find more space, if I try to create a 16GB partition from C will I
    > significantly affect computer performance?


    This might not be a good idea...

    System recovery is where many brand name manufactures (including HP) store
    data to restore Windows Vista to factory condition.
     
  5. rak

    rak Guest

    Thanks for the ideas. I already have Paragon. I'll defrag and give it a
    try.



    "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    news:smeVl.109604$uD3.101396@newsfe20.iad...
    > Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >
    > I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my HDD
    > and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB partition.
    > My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing primary partitions
    > (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB. The other (C) makes up
    > the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free space.
    >
    > When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is
    > available to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB
    > allocated to it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more
    > shrinkage ;>) space available? Two, assuming that with your help I can
    > find more space, if I try to create a 16GB partition from C will I
    > significantly affect computer performance?
     
  6. rak

    rak Guest

    Not sure I understand your concern. I'm working with C, not D. Do you mean
    there is system recovery info on C I should protect? If so, can you tell me
    where?

    "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5EA7905A-BF5C-4EC5-8A72-A50A34300D8B@microsoft.com...
    >
    > "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    > news:smeVl.109604$uD3.101396@newsfe20.iad...
    >> Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >>
    >> I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my
    >> HDD and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB
    >> partition. My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing
    >> primary partitions (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB.
    >> The other (C) makes up the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free space.
    >>
    >> When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is
    >> available to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB
    >> allocated to it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more
    >> shrinkage ;>) space available? Two, assuming that with your help I can
    >> find more space, if I try to create a 16GB partition from C will I
    >> significantly affect computer performance?

    >
    > This might not be a good idea...
    >
    > System recovery is where many brand name manufactures (including HP) store
    > data to restore Windows Vista to factory condition.
     
  7. Rick Rogers

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    Installing Win7 will overwrite the proprietary boot sector and you will
    likely lose access to the recovery partition should you ever need it.

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

    "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    news:fwgVl.126$IP7.102@newsfe23.iad...
    > Not sure I understand your concern. I'm working with C, not D. Do you
    > mean there is system recovery info on C I should protect? If so, can you
    > tell me where?
    >
    > "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:5EA7905A-BF5C-4EC5-8A72-A50A34300D8B@microsoft.com...
    >>
    >> "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    >> news:smeVl.109604$uD3.101396@newsfe20.iad...
    >>> Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >>>
    >>> I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my
    >>> HDD and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB
    >>> partition. My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing
    >>> primary partitions (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB.
    >>> The other (C) makes up the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free
    >>> space.
    >>>
    >>> When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is
    >>> available to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB
    >>> allocated to it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more
    >>> shrinkage ;>) space available? Two, assuming that with your help I can
    >>> find more space, if I try to create a 16GB partition from C will I
    >>> significantly affect computer performance?

    >>
    >> This might not be a good idea...
    >>
    >> System recovery is where many brand name manufactures (including HP)
    >> store data to restore Windows Vista to factory condition.

    >
     
  8. Rick Rogers

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Defrag won't help unless it's a third party tool capable of moving the
    locked files near the end of the volume. Most times these turn out to be
    parts of the MFT, so you'll need a product that can deal with it.

    --
    Best of Luck,

    Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

    "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    news:zugVl.124$IP7.118@newsfe23.iad...
    > Thanks for the ideas. I already have Paragon. I'll defrag and give it a
    > try.
    >
    >
    >
    > "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    > news:smeVl.109604$uD3.101396@newsfe20.iad...
    >> Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >>
    >> I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my
    >> HDD and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB
    >> partition. My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing
    >> primary partitions (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB.
    >> The other (C) makes up the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free space.
    >>
    >> When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is
    >> available to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB
    >> allocated to it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more
    >> shrinkage ;>) space available? Two, assuming that with your help I can
    >> find more space, if I try to create a 16GB partition from C will I
    >> significantly affect computer performance?

    >
     
  9. rak

    rak Guest

    Got it. Thanks. I'll consider the best course - perhaps put it on my older
    MCE machine.

    "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:OJHihG$4JHA.4412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Hi,
    >
    > Installing Win7 will overwrite the proprietary boot sector and you will
    > likely lose access to the recovery partition should you ever need it.
    >
    > --
    > Best of Luck,
    >
    > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
    >
    > "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    > news:fwgVl.126$IP7.102@newsfe23.iad...
    >> Not sure I understand your concern. I'm working with C, not D. Do you
    >> mean there is system recovery info on C I should protect? If so, can you
    >> tell me where?
    >>
    >> "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:5EA7905A-BF5C-4EC5-8A72-A50A34300D8B@microsoft.com...
    >>>
    >>> "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:smeVl.109604$uD3.101396@newsfe20.iad...
    >>>> Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >>>>
    >>>> I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my
    >>>> HDD and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB
    >>>> partition. My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing
    >>>> primary partitions (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB.
    >>>> The other (C) makes up the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free
    >>>> space.
    >>>>
    >>>> When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is
    >>>> available to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than
    >>>> 3GB allocated to it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more
    >>>> shrinkage ;>) space available? Two, assuming that with your help I can
    >>>> find more space, if I try to create a 16GB partition from C will I
    >>>> significantly affect computer performance?
    >>>
    >>> This might not be a good idea...
    >>>
    >>> System recovery is where many brand name manufactures (including HP)
    >>> store data to restore Windows Vista to factory condition.

    >>

    >
     
  10. rak

    rak Guest

    Thx. I may not have to do any heavy duty defrag. While exploring C with
    paragon, I found an error requiring use of chkdsk to fix. I plan to recheck
    shrink space again asap.

    "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
    news:em2jkH$4JHA.1096@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Defrag won't help unless it's a third party tool capable of moving the
    > locked files near the end of the volume. Most times these turn out to be
    > parts of the MFT, so you'll need a product that can deal with it.
    >
    > --
    > Best of Luck,
    >
    > Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
    > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
    > Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
    > My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
    >
    > "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    > news:zugVl.124$IP7.118@newsfe23.iad...
    >> Thanks for the ideas. I already have Paragon. I'll defrag and give it a
    >> try.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "rak" <rakess@charter.net> wrote in message
    >> news:smeVl.109604$uD3.101396@newsfe20.iad...
    >>> Vista Home Premium, x86, SP2, 160GB HDD, HP6375US laptop
    >>>
    >>> I downloaded Windows 7 RC1 with the intent of adding a partition to my
    >>> HDD and dual booting. My understanding is that I would need a 16GB
    >>> partition. My Disk Management Console tells me I have two existing
    >>> primary partitions (expected). D (the recovery partition) is 6.62GB.
    >>> The other (C) makes up the difference (~142GB) and has 47.1GB free
    >>> space.
    >>>
    >>> When I begin the "shrink volume" process, it says that only 3MB is
    >>> available to shrink C. I checked the page file and it has less than 3GB
    >>> allocated to it. So, I have two questions. First, why isn't more
    >>> shrinkage ;>) space available? Two, assuming that with your help I can
    >>> find more space, if I try to create a 16GB partition from C will I
    >>> significantly affect computer performance?

    >>

    >
     

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