Restore Points Gone

I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
points prior to the update are gone.
Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
them?

It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the restore
pointd disappeared.

Thanks

DD

 

Hello Dave,

Do you dual boot with XP? If so XP will wipe Vista's restore points
everytime you start in XP unless Vista is hidden from XP.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/127417-system-restore-points-stop-xp-dual-boot-delete.html


If that is not the case, then you might see what you maximum disk
storage space is set to for restore points. If it runs out of room, the
older restore points will be deleted to make room for the newer one.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76227-system-restore-disk-space.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn

DaveD;1062447 Wrote:
> I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
> points prior to the update are gone.
> Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently
> delete
> them?
>
> It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a
> clean
> and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the
> restore
> pointd disappeared.
>
> Thanks
>
> DD


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Did you install service pack 2? This would cause the previous restore points
to be eliminated as they are of no use after SP2 has been installed. If they
were there, and you tried to use them, you would have huge problems.

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"DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote in message
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>I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
>points prior to the update are gone.
> Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
> them?
>
> It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
> and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the restore
> pointd disappeared.
>
> Thanks
>
> DD

 

Adding to Shawn's answer. Norton is another culprit. Do you have Norton installed

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"DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote in message news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
> points prior to the update are gone.
> Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
> them?
>
> It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
> and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the restore
> pointd disappeared.
>
> Thanks
>
> DD
>

 

Good point Richard. SP2 would wipe them out as well.

Thank you.


Richard Urban;1062491 Wrote:
> Did you install service pack 2? This would cause the previous restore
> points
> to be eliminated as they are of no use after SP2 has been installed. If
> they
> were there, and you tried to use them, you would have huge problems.
>
> --
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "DaveD" <dd@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@xxxxxx> > >
> > >I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my
> > restore
> > >points prior to the update are gone.
> > > Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently
> > delete
> > > them?
> > >
> > > It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a
> > clean
> > > and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the
> > restore
> > > pointd disappeared.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > DD > >


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"DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote in message
news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
> points prior to the update are gone.
> Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
> them?
>
> It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
> and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the restore
> pointd disappeared.
>
> Thanks
>
> DD

SP2 install will remove restore points.

It might be that Microsoft feels restoring to a previous restore point over
SP2 would cause more problems.

 

You think?

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"Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote in message
> news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
>> points prior to the update are gone.
>> Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
>> them?
>>
>> It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
>> and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the
>> restore pointd disappeared.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> DD
>
> SP2 install will remove restore points.
>
> It might be that Microsoft feels restoring to a previous restore point
> over SP2 would cause more problems.

 

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You think?
>
> --
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news4449EDB-CB9B-4A90-B47E-FB86773A7ED2@microsoft.com...
>>
>> "DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote in message
>> news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
>>> points prior to the update are gone.
>>> Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently
>>> delete them?
>>>
>>> It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a
>>> clean and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the
>>> restore pointd disappeared.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> DD
>>
>> SP2 install will remove restore points.
>>
>> It might be that Microsoft feels restoring to a previous restore point
>> over SP2 would cause more problems.
>

I suspect restoring to a previous points over regular updates could
potentially cause problems, too.

 

Thanks for the suggestions

Thanks for the suggestions, but none of the above (below)

I already had SP 2.
I don't dual boot.
There is plenty of space for shadow copies/restore points
I forgot to mention I'm using Vista64. I don't know if that's relevant.

Maybe it's something I did, but I sure don't remember deleting restore
points.
Like I said -no biggie, but it surprised me to see them gone.

DD


"DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote in message
news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
>points prior to the update are gone.
> Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
> them?
>
> It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
> and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the restore
> pointd disappeared.
>
> Thanks
>
> DD

 

Dave,

There is an option in 'Disk Cleanup'
(http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76073-disk-cleanup.html) to delete
all but the most recent restore point. You may have deleted them from
there.


DaveD;1062829 Wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions, but none of the above (below)
>
> I already had SP 2.
> I don't dual boot.
> There is plenty of space for shadow copies/restore points
> I forgot to mention I'm using Vista64. I don't know if that's relevant.
>
> Maybe it's something I did, but I sure don't remember deleting restore
> points.
> Like I said -no biggie, but it surprised me to see them gone.
>
> DD
>
>
> "DaveD" <dd@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@xxxxxx> > >
> > >I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my
> > restore
> > >points prior to the update are gone.
> > > Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently
> > delete
> > > them?
> > >
> > > It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a
> > clean
> > > and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the
> > restore
> > > pointd disappeared.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > DD > >


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Re: Thanks for the suggestions

Disk Cleanup perhaps?

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"DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote in message
news:uKH5ucf6JHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the suggestions, but none of the above (below)
>
> I already had SP 2.
> I don't dual boot.
> There is plenty of space for shadow copies/restore points
> I forgot to mention I'm using Vista64. I don't know if that's relevant.
>
> Maybe it's something I did, but I sure don't remember deleting restore
> points.
> Like I said -no biggie, but it surprised me to see them gone.
>
> DD
>
>
> "DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote in message
> news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
>>points prior to the update are gone.
>> Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
>> them?
>>
>> It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
>> and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the
>> restore pointd disappeared.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> DD
>

 

Yeah, I've used that option before, but I haven't intentionally used it
recently. Maybe I did it in my sleep... ;-)
Anyway, it looks like it was NOT done by the MS update, or everyone else
would be experiencing it.
I'll just have to keep an eye on my restore points after the next update and
see what happens.

DD


"Brink" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Dave,
>
> There is an option in 'Disk Cleanup'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76073-disk-cleanup.html) to delete
> all but the most recent restore point. You may have deleted them from
> there.
>
>
> DaveD;1062829 Wrote:
>> Thanks for the suggestions, but none of the above (below)
>>
>> I already had SP 2.
>> I don't dual boot.
>> There is plenty of space for shadow copies/restore points
>> I forgot to mention I'm using Vista64. I don't know if that's relevant.
>>
>> Maybe it's something I did, but I sure don't remember deleting restore
>> points.
>> Like I said -no biggie, but it surprised me to see them gone.
>>
>> DD
>>
>>
>> "DaveD" <dd@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uBzk8mX6JHA.3860@xxxxxx> > >
>> > >I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my
>> > restore
>> > >points prior to the update are gone.
>> > > Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently
>> > delete
>> > > them?
>> > >
>> > > It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a
>> > clean
>> > > and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the
>> > restore
>> > > pointd disappeared.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > DD > >
>
>
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>
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"DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote:

>I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
>points prior to the update are gone.
>Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
>them?
>
>It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
>and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the restore
>pointd disappeared.

When I installed SP2 on my machine, the same thing happened so I
assumed that it was "normal".

This past weekend I visited a friend who only has dialup, so I took
the full SP2 download with me and installed it.

No loss of restore points.

Both of us have Home Basic. My system is set to only use 5GB of disk
space for System Restore. His was set to use the standard percentage
of his disk space.

I attribute the difference between our two machines to that.

 

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:19:44 -0500, Manny Weisbord wrote:

> "DaveD" <dd@dd.dd> wrote:
>
>>I just installed today's Vista updates and later noticed all my restore
>>points prior to the update are gone.
>>Is this everyone's experience, or did I do something to accidently delete
>>them?
>>
>>It's not really a problem, as I just finished a reinstall and had a clean
>>and stable config before the update, but I'm curious as to why the restore
>>pointd disappeared.
>
> When I installed SP2 on my machine, the same thing happened so I
> assumed that it was "normal".
>
> This past weekend I visited a friend who only has dialup, so I took
> the full SP2 download with me and installed it.
>
> No loss of restore points.
>
> Both of us have Home Basic. My system is set to only use 5GB of disk
> space for System Restore. His was set to use the standard percentage
> of his disk space.
>
> I attribute the difference between our two machines to that.

Interesting point. I was going to post in direct reply to the OP, and
reference the other repliers, until I read your remark about the
allocation.

1. I have installed SP2 directly from the Microsoft Update program, not by
downloading & running the image.

2. I similarly installed a bunch of updates today (mostly security
related).

3. I checked my Restore Point list a few days ago, after reading, on this
NG, similar remarks about SP2 and other updates removing RPs, and the list
was full; however, it seemed prudent to recheck, which I just did. At this
moment, I have ~28 Restore Points listed, going back as far as 15:13:31
PDT, April 29, 2009.

Similarly to your friend, I have not changed the default allocation for
Restore Points.

Unlike you and your friend, I'm running Vista Home Premium x64.


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