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Resetting 'secrets'

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by wcns, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. wcns

    wcns Guest

    When I enter my product key to re-activate (required by MS) my 2 year
    old zista ultimate, I get an error message stating that "The maximum
    number of secrets that may be stored in a single system has been
    exceeded".
    Is there a why to reset these 'so called' secrets?

    Marvin
    wcns@msn.com


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  2. I have installed Vista about 200/300 times over the past 2 1/2 years and
    have never seen anything like what you describe.

    How about a bit more information? Is this a legal retail copy? What strange
    software have you installed that is not the norm?

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    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "wcns" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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    > When I enter my product key to re-activate (required by MS) my 2 year
    > old zista ultimate, I get an error message stating that "The maximum
    > number of secrets that may be stored in a single system has been
    > exceeded".
    > Is there a why to reset these 'so called' secrets?
    >
    > Marvin
    > wcns@msn.com
    >
    >
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    > wcns <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Guest

    That is what happens when you need to call by phone to activate. Speak to a real
    person and explain. Activation Screen contains the 1-800 number you need to call

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    Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

    "wcns" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > When I enter my product key to re-activate (required by MS) my 2 year
    > old zista ultimate, I get an error message stating that "The maximum
    > number of secrets that may be stored in a single system has been
    > exceeded".
    > Is there a why to reset these 'so called' secrets?
    >
    > Marvin
    > wcns@msn.com
    >
    >
    > --
    > wcns <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. Error Message:

    The maximum number of secrets that may be stored in a single system
    has been exceeded. The length and number of secrets is limited to
    satisfy United States State Department export restrictions.

    Although YOU may not have installed encryption or encrypted software on your
    machine (knowingly) ; encryption and/or limits may be installed in seemingly
    innocent software.

    Historical situations of just a few years ago mandated that US developed
    software, by law, was restricted when it came to encryption above rather low
    levels - when compared to commercially available software today.

    Check your logs to see if you can narrow down the source of the error
    message, then contact the vendor... otherwise, contact MS directly to see if
    they have an explanation. A search of the "Web" shows this is not as
    infrequent as you would think. So far, no simple solutions nor explanations
    have surfaced.
     
  5. wcns wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > When I enter my product key to re-activate (required by MS) my 2 year
    > old zista ultimate, I get an error message stating that "The maximum
    > number of secrets that may be stored in a single system has been
    > exceeded".<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    That's a bit weird ...

    Note, there's no specific need to re-activate Windows over any period;
    *unless* the hardware changes in a way that makes Windows think it's
    running on a new machine. So you probably changed something in teh
    system to make re-activate spring into life. Some very innocent changes,
    like plugging in a new hard disk, can tip Windows over the edge and make
    it ask for re-activation.

    When you get a new activation code from Microsoft and enter it into the
    activation dialogue, Windows will encrypt the results in the activation
    database.

    Windows has a limit on how many encrypted objects it can store.
    Encrypted objects can be things like files; or they can be more granular
    objects which require individual encryption. The limit of encrypted
    objects is 4096 (apparently to comply with some US Government laws, but
    I'm not 100% sure of the background).

    The message "The maximum number of secrets that may be stored in a
    single system has been exceeded" is a standard Windows error message,
    defined in Winerror.h in the Windows SDK; see


    When you go to encrypt the 4097th object on your system, Windows will
    throw up this error message.

    Many other things can also encrypt objects on your system: such as any
    software which uses Digital Rights Management ("DMR") to play music,
    DVDs etc.

    I'm guessing that something has created a fair bit of encrypted material
    on your machine, and there's no room left to encrypt the new Activation Key.

    But how you go about fixing it, in general terms, is hard to say (for me
    anyway); I'd have to examine the machine and see what's there.

    As a rough guess, I'd try uninstalling as much DRM-using software and
    encryption applications as you can - hopefully that will remove the
    encrypted "secrets" from the protected store as well. If not, personally
    I'd back up my user data, then wipe and re-install Windows and
    applications, and then restore my data from backup. Obvioulsy that's a
    bit drastic, so try other stuff first.

    Other folks might have extra info for you - hope this helps a bit.

    Andrew
    --
    amclar at optusnet dot com dot au
     
  6. jenak3769

    jenak3769 Guest

    I had something similiar about 2 years ago after a really bad crash, and
    re installed the Vista OS, it gave me a similiar message when it started
    for the first time "so to speak" I simply re installed with a clean
    install and then had a problem with compressed boot, so did another
    clean install and never had a problem since.. Personally, I would try a
    complete clean re install , a couple of times,, either that or dheck the
    validity of the 'DVD" ss Good Luck


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  7. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "wcns" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:4a6536c243c4f7ca3f9149be1a34acca@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > When I enter my product key to re-activate (required by MS) my 2 year
    > old zista ultimate, I get an error message stating that "The maximum
    > number of secrets that may be stored in a single system has been
    > exceeded".
    > Is there a why to reset these 'so called' secrets?
    >
    > Marvin
    > wcns@msn.com
    >
    >
    > --
    > wcns<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    It's a Zista Ultimate secret and can not be shared with the causual Zista
    user.
     
  8. +Bob+

    +Bob+ Guest

    On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:15:05 -0500, wcns <guest@unknown-email.com>
    wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    >When I enter my product key to re-activate (required by MS) my 2 year
    >old zista ultimate, I get an error message stating that "The maximum
    >number of secrets that may be stored in a single system has been
    >exceeded".
    >Is there a why to reset these 'so called' secrets?
    >
    >Marvin
    >wcns@msn.com<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Scan for malware. Try "malwarebytes" for a free version. There's never
    a need to re-enter your product key and there are no "secrets".
     
  9. wcns

    wcns Guest

    I (Marvin Youngstrand - wcns@msn.com) am the poster of this issue. I am
    not familiar with the methods for communicating in forums.
    1. How do I respond to all the great help I have received?
    2. What are tags and polls, etc.?


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