Re: Why Open Sores Software Sucks

DanS wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "BRUCE STARINSKI" <bruce@starinski.com> wrote in
> news:hbnquj$m90$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> <SNIP STUPID CR*P>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Those who criticize windows have one strong argument in common,
>> security flaws and virus threats. Do you ever think that a virus
>> writer or hacker will get what he wanted from writing program for
>> Linux? He wants to see his virus on the news, to cause lot of damage,
>> for people to talk about it. To achieve this he has to write a virus
>> for an operating system which is widely used, which is windows.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> So writing *another* virus for Windows that may become mildly successful
> is more desirable and more noteworthy than being the first to write a
> successful one for Linux that gets released into the wild, lives , and
> multiplies, and becomes some type of problem ?
>
> I'd think being the first would be much more impressive than to be the
> thousandth.
>
>
> <more incoherant babble snipped>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Let's look at fundamental issues of Open Source software
>>
>> <!--[if !supportLists]-->1. <!--[endif]-->Bad User Interface Design-
>> If you have ever used Linux you'll experience the troubles that you
>> might go through unless you have some good knowledge in computers. The
>> problems with open source programming I s that they only think about
>> programming but not about user friendliness or the interface.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Incorrect.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Ubuntu tries to copy windows XP,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> This means absolutely nothing. A window based GUI is a windows based GUI.
> There are 4 main 'desktops' available for Linux and they all offer many
> of the same features, and each has their own features as well.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> but still need lots of improvements
>> in other areas.
>>
>>
>> <!--[if !supportLists]-->2. <!--[endif]-->Bad Documentation-Most of
>> the time the documentation is written in a way that only experts can
>> understand. When you use open source software, if you encounter even a
>> simple problem, you may have to read through 100 of documents and user
>> forum until you find a solution.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> This may be true. But who reads documentation.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I installed Ubuntu once and internet
>> was not working, it took me one week to find the solution, many would
>> have already given up. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You'd admit to that ?
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> <!--[if !supportLists]-->3. <!--[endif]-->Give us what they want- This
>> is the main disadvantage of open source software projects. Can we play
>> video games in Linux or Ubuntu? Ask this question from an Open Source
>> guy, he will immediately answer "We don't play games".<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Ask another one and he may answer differently. I would answer that there
> are some games available (and I'm not talking lame games like 2d
> anything) but many of the windows games will play under WINE. I'd then
> relate my personal experience that when I installed and ran Quake3 under
> WINE, it actually ran better under WINE than running as native binaries
> in Windows. Many games function properly under WINE.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> <!--[if !supportLists]-->4. <!--[endif]-->Slow development rate- Since
>> so many developers may join and leave the project, it may take a lot
>> of time for a new guy to join the ongoing project and contribute
>> efficiently. This may have a huge impact on the future of the project.
>> There are millions of lines of coding; it could break down on its own
>> weight. ( Check the speed of windows XP vs Red Hat Linux)<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Duh. Any new person coming into a project, commercial or not, will have
> to spend time getting up to speed.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Using logic and reason with these guys is a futile endeavor.

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> DanS wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "BRUCE STARINSKI" <bruce@starinski.com> wrote in
>> news:hbnquj$m90$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>> <SNIP STUPID CR*P>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Those who criticize windows have one strong argument in common,
>>> security flaws and virus threats. Do you ever think that a virus
>>> writer or hacker will get what he wanted from writing program for
>>> Linux? He wants to see his virus on the news, to cause lot of damage,
>>> for people to talk about it. To achieve this he has to write a virus
>>> for an operating system which is widely used, which is windows.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> So writing *another* virus for Windows that may become mildly successful
>> is more desirable and more noteworthy than being the first to write a
>> successful one for Linux that gets released into the wild, lives , and
>> multiplies, and becomes some type of problem ?
>> I'd think being the first would be much more impressive than to be the
>> thousandth.
>>
>> <more incoherant babble snipped>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Let's look at fundamental issues of Open Source software
>>>
>>> <!--[if !supportLists]-->1. <!--[endif]-->Bad User Interface Design-
>>> If you have ever used Linux you'll experience the troubles that you
>>> might go through unless you have some good knowledge in computers. The
>>> problems with open source programming I s that they only think about
>>> programming but not about user friendliness or the interface.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Incorrect.
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Ubuntu tries to copy windows XP,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> This means absolutely nothing. A window based GUI is a windows based
>> GUI. There are 4 main 'desktops' available for Linux and they all
>> offer many of the same features, and each has their own features as well.
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> but still need lots of improvements
>>> in other areas.
>>>
>>> <!--[if !supportLists]-->2. <!--[endif]-->Bad Documentation-Most of
>>> the time the documentation is written in a way that only experts can
>>> understand. When you use open source software, if you encounter even a
>>> simple problem, you may have to read through 100 of documents and user
>>> forum until you find a solution.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> This may be true. But who reads documentation.
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I installed Ubuntu once and internet
>>> was not working, it took me one week to find the solution, many would
>>> have already given up. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> You'd admit to that ?
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> <!--[if !supportLists]-->3. <!--[endif]-->Give us what they want- This
>>> is the main disadvantage of open source software projects. Can we play
>>> video games in Linux or Ubuntu? Ask this question from an Open Source
>>> guy, he will immediately answer "We don't play games".<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Ask another one and he may answer differently. I would answer that
>> there are some games available (and I'm not talking lame games like 2d
>> anything) but many of the windows games will play under WINE. I'd then
>> relate my personal experience that when I installed and ran Quake3
>> under WINE, it actually ran better under WINE than running as native
>> binaries in Windows. Many games function properly under WINE.
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> <!--[if !supportLists]-->4. <!--[endif]-->Slow development rate- Since
>>> so many developers may join and leave the project, it may take a lot
>>> of time for a new guy to join the ongoing project and contribute
>>> efficiently. This may have a huge impact on the future of the project.
>>> There are millions of lines of coding; it could break down on its own
>>> weight. ( Check the speed of windows XP vs Red Hat Linux)<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Duh. Any new person coming into a project, commercial or not, will
>> have to spend time getting up to speed.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Using logic and reason with these guys is a futile endeavor.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Projecting again?...LOL!