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Re: Vista oversized fonts problem

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by kivatrader, Jun 12, 2009.

  1. kivatrader

    kivatrader Guest

    Quite a few replies to this question, in other posts have indicated that
    no one sees this as a problem. I do. I've worked with fonts for more
    than 20 years -- I know what font files do and what they are supposed to
    look like. I also know that there is no conceivable reason why an
    attempt to delete these bloated things would be "denied" or if they are
    even fonts at all! I want them off may machine! Has anyone out there
    actually run a debug on these, or looked at the code? 15 Mbytes is
    ridiculous -- I would almost expect to find a kernel os applet hidden
    inside these. MS has an amazing amount of cohones to expect us to
    accept their inclusion of useless "fonts" like these. I don't need to
    have a Thai font installed, and I shouldn't have to accept it.


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    kivatrader
     
  2. +Bob+

    +Bob+ Guest

    On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:46:45 -0500, kivatrader
    <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:

    >
    >Quite a few replies to this question, in other posts have indicated that
    >no one sees this as a problem. I do. I've worked with fonts for more
    >than 20 years -- I know what font files do and what they are supposed to
    >look like. I also know that there is no conceivable reason why an
    >attempt to delete these bloated things would be "denied" or if they are
    >even fonts at all! I want them off may machine! Has anyone out there
    >actually run a debug on these, or looked at the code? 15 Mbytes is
    >ridiculous -- I would almost expect to find a kernel os applet hidden
    >inside these. MS has an amazing amount of cohones to expect us to
    >accept their inclusion of useless "fonts" like these. I don't need to
    >have a Thai font installed, and I shouldn't have to accept it.


    You can delete them, you just have to change the protections and/or
    take ownership. As part of the MS security band-aids in Vista, they
    removed your priv's to the fonts directory & files. There's no sense
    to it: basically they just removed your access to everything, then
    enabled it to your specific user directories (Rather than fix their
    architectural flaws so that they could implement file protections in a
    sensible manner).

    You're right - some have suggested that the size of those files is due
    to the number of characters in the Asian languages - but they still
    seem to be extraordinarily large for font files when you extrapolate
    the numbers. I suspect there are other issues with the file design,
    but it's not really worth pondering. Just remove them if you don't
    want them.
     
  3. kivatrader

    kivatrader Guest

    Well, thanks -- I've tried deleting them, I've tried changing the
    permissions, I've tried using the command prompt as administrator
    (which, of course, I am if anyone is!) and I've tried doing it from Safe
    mode command prompt, all with the same result: access denied. If I
    could disable the system protection, I would, but I'm not sure how. Any
    further help?


    --
    kivatrader
     
  4. +Bob+ wrote:

    > On Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:46:45 -0500, kivatrader
    > <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>Quite a few replies to this question, in other posts have indicated that
    >>no one sees this as a problem. I do. I've worked with fonts for more
    >>than 20 years -- I know what font files do and what they are supposed to
    >>look like. I also know that there is no conceivable reason why an
    >>attempt to delete these bloated things would be "denied" or if they are
    >>even fonts at all! I want them off may machine! Has anyone out there
    >>actually run a debug on these, or looked at the code? 15 Mbytes is
    >>ridiculous -- I would almost expect to find a kernel os applet hidden
    >>inside these. MS has an amazing amount of cohones to expect us to
    >>accept their inclusion of useless "fonts" like these. I don't need to
    >>have a Thai font installed, and I shouldn't have to accept it.

    >
    > You can delete them, you just have to change the protections and/or
    > take ownership. As part of the MS security band-aids in Vista, they
    > removed your priv's to the fonts directory & files. There's no sense
    > to it: basically they just removed your access to everything, then
    > enabled it to your specific user directories (Rather than fix their
    > architectural flaws so that they could implement file protections in a
    > sensible manner).
    >


    Sounds like the linux home folder.
    Its the only one a USER has all access to.
    The rest need root.

    Where do you f-ing morons come from?

    UAC is all over linux....yet you whine here.




    > You're right - some have suggested that the size of those files is due
    > to the number of characters in the Asian languages - but they still
    > seem to be extraordinarily large for font files when you extrapolate
    > the numbers. I suspect there are other issues with the file design,
    > but it's not really worth pondering. Just remove them if you don't
    > want them.
     

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