Re: No MSMAIL, Movei Maker in Win7

"Natéag" <nul@nul.com> wrote in message
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> Are they crazy ? Microsoft leaves the field to Apple qho will claim that
> contrary to Win7 it offers
> its systemem inculdes movie and email software.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


It's to create the illusion of a leaner and faster operating system than
Vista. Of course, once you download all the essential extras it'll be fatter
+ slower than mud.

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Jon

 

"PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
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>
> Bad guess.
> You will need Windows 7 to evaluate it.
> Its fast.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


You'll also need the 'extras'.

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"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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> "PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
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>>
>> Bad guess.
>> You will need Windows 7 to evaluate it.
>> Its fast.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> You'll also need the 'extras'.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yes, I am using it.
You, are not.

 

"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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> "PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
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>>
>> Bad guess.
>> You will need Windows 7 to evaluate it.
>> Its fast.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> You'll also need the 'extras'.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Installing "extras" doesn't necessarily make the OS run slower....

 

"PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, I am using it.
> You, are not.
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I've used it, but I'm not impressed.

It brings nothing new to the marketing mix (Vista did), but takes away more
features than it adds. Did we not sing the praises of Windows Calendar in
this group for it to warrant a home in Windows 7?

Or if I've missed the exciting new feature coming with Windows 7 then please
enlighten me. I genuinely would like there to be one...

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Jon

 

"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Installing "extras" doesn't necessarily make the OS run slower....
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


True, but I've never known it to make an os run faster.

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Jon

 

"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%236cMuBBUKHA.4364@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Installing "extras" doesn't necessarily make the OS run slower....
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> True, but I've never known it to make an os run faster.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

It's certainly faster than Vista on the same machine with the same apps
installed. One major feature is that Win 7 doesn't randomly drop wireless
connections, unlike Vista...

 

"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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> "PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
> news:4adb4137@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Yes, I am using it.
>> You, are not.
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> I've used it, but I'm not impressed.
>
> It brings nothing new to the marketing mix (Vista did), but takes away
> more features than it adds. Did we not sing the praises of Windows
> Calendar in this group for it to warrant a home in Windows 7?
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Live Mail has the calendar.
Not sure if its as "good", not a big PC calendar user.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Or if I've missed the exciting new feature coming with Windows 7 then
> please enlighten me. I genuinely would like there to be one...
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I don't care if you like it or not.
You stated it was a "pig", I as a user of an eval copy, and an HP oem copy,
say it's fast.
I base my opinion as an actually user.
You are using Vista, so your opinion would be suspect.

 

Here's a list of the features in Win 7...




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"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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> "PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
> news:4adb4137@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Yes, I am using it.
>> You, are not.
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> I've used it, but I'm not impressed.
>
> It brings nothing new to the marketing mix (Vista did), but takes away
> more features than it adds. Did we not sing the praises of Windows
> Calendar in this group for it to warrant a home in Windows 7?
>
> Or if I've missed the exciting new feature coming with Windows 7 then
> please enlighten me. I genuinely would like there to be one...
>
> --
> Jon
>
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Dave wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Here's a list of the features in Win 7...
>
>
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

None of them are show stoppers and ALL of them have been available with
Ubuntu for years.

Alias

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Here's a list of the features in Win 7...
>>
>>
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> None of them are show stoppers and ALL of them have been available with
> Ubuntu for years.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Nothing is available in ubuntu.
DVD palyback sucks, and isn't legal with additional paid for software.
Stop fudging lying, you moron.
It's a crude OS, at best.

 

"Dave" <Dave@beepbeepbeepbeep.com> wrote in message
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> Here's a list of the features in Win 7...
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->



Thanks for the link. Which of those features would stand out for you as the
most exciting, if I might be so bold as to enquire?

(genuine question)

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Jon

 

"PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
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><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Nothing is available in ubuntu.
> DVD palyback sucks, and isn't legal *with* additional paid for software.
> Stop fudging lying, you moron.
> It's a crude OS, at best.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

*without*

 

"PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
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>
> Live Mail has the calendar.
> Not sure if its as "good", not a big PC calendar user.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I've seen it.

Using an online calendar is ok if you have zero concern for privacy.

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Jon

 

PencilState wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbfi91$g6b$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Dave wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Here's a list of the features in Win 7...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> None of them are show stoppers and ALL of them have been available
>> with Ubuntu for years.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Nothing is available in ubuntu.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Liar.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> DVD palyback [sic] sucks, and isn't legal with additional paid for software.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Not where I live. We have the Public Option for health care too.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Stop fudging lying, you moron.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're the one lying.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> It's a crude OS, at best.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Your ill informed and biased opinion.

Alias

 

PencilState wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
> news:4adb4ce8@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Nothing is available in ubuntu.
>> DVD palyback sucks, and isn't legal *with* additional paid for software.
>> Stop fudging lying, you moron.
>> It's a crude OS, at best.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> *without*<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Only in the monopoly controlled USA, not in civilized countries.

Alias

 

"Jon" <Email_Address@SomewhereOrOther.com> wrote in message
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>
> "PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
> news:4adb4787$1@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Live Mail has the calendar.
>> Not sure if its as "good", not a big PC calendar user.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> I've seen it.
>
> Using an online calendar is ok if you have zero concern for privacy.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You can use it without being signed in to Windows Live.
How are they collecting data without being signed in?

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
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> PencilState wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
>> news:4adb4ce8@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Nothing is available in ubuntu.
>>> DVD palyback sucks, and isn't legal *with* additional paid for software.
>>> Stop fudging lying, you moron.
>>> It's a crude OS, at best.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> *without*<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Only in the monopoly controlled USA, not in civilized countries.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

How do you figure that?
You an expert on international law?

Canonical even says so, dummy ...
Legal Notice Patent and copyright laws operate differently depending on
which country you are in. Please obtain legal advice if you are unsure
whether a particular patent or restriction applies to a media format you
wish to use in your country.

 

PencilState wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbfjai$nlj$2@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> PencilState wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> "PencilState" <pencilstate@Iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
>>> news:4adb4ce8@news.x-privat.org...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nothing is available in ubuntu.
>>>> DVD palyback sucks, and isn't legal *with* additional paid for
>>>> software.
>>>> Stop fudging lying, you moron.
>>>> It's a crude OS, at best.
>>>
>>> *without*<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Only in the monopoly controlled USA, not in civilized countries.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> How do you figure that?
> You an expert on international law?
>
> Canonical even says so, dummy ...
> Legal Notice Patent and copyright laws operate differently depending on
> which country you are in. Please obtain legal advice if you are unsure
> whether a particular patent or restriction applies to a media format you
> wish to use in your country.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I have a lawyer who is an expert on international law. It's legal here
as is downloading music, DVDs or programs from Torrent if you have no
plans to make money on the downloads. Too civilized for you?

Alias

 

"PencilState" <pencilstate@iforgotmypen.psu> wrote in message
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>
> You can use it without being signed in to Windows Live.
> How are they collecting data without being signed in?
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Well presumably the expectation is that at some point you will sign in.

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