Re: Microsoft set to respond to Google OS next Monday?

On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:25:42 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
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> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
google-os-next-monday<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>
>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited. Second, it will be
> geared towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down version.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Two sentences and you've contradicted yourself ('is free' 'will be') that
may be a record!
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> Anyway it's at least 18 months away. Now you have another hard-on
> because there is more pressure on Microsoft to produce better products.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Has to be some before there can be 'more'.

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>
> Maybe you can start a new "Noble Mission"!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:25:42 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
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>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> google-os-next-monday<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>>
>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited. Second, it will be
>> geared towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down version.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Two sentences and you've contradicted yourself ('is free' 'will be') that
> may be a record!
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Anyway it's at least 18 months away. Now you have another hard-on
>> because there is more pressure on Microsoft to produce better products.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Has to be some before there can be 'more'.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
There are non-MS OS's already, so there has been some pressure on them to
produce a better OS, though it seems Linux is still only really used by
computer geeks and the ones I know of have another machine with an MS OS
installed.

 

On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:09:05 -0700, Over Easy, ESQ wrote:
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> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7bjqp2F1u6fq6U70@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:25:42 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> google-os-next-monday<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited. Second, it will
>>> be geared towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down
>>> version.
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Two sentences and you've contradicted yourself ('is free' 'will be')
>> that may be a record!
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> What is the contradiction? The first sententence states that the
> product is free. The second says what it's going to be.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

If you can't tell the difference between 'is' and 'will be' you need to
go back to grammar school.

 

On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:14:20 -0400, Eric wrote:
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> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7bjqp2F1u6fq6U70@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:25:42 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> google-os-next-monday<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited. Second, it will
>>> be geared towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down
>>> version.
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> Two sentences and you've contradicted yourself ('is free' 'will be')
>> that may be a record!
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Anyway it's at least 18 months away. Now you have another hard-on
>>> because there is more pressure on Microsoft to produce better
>>> products.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Has to be some before there can be 'more'.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> There are non-MS OS's already, so there has been some pressure on them
> to produce a better OS, though it seems Linux is still only really used
> by computer geeks and the ones I know of have another machine with an MS
> OS installed.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You completely missed my point. There is currently very little or no
pressure on MS. At least that is the way they proceed to do business. BTW
- I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on 13 of
the 14 public access internet computers at the local library. Folks have
been using them for over four years and zero complaints to date - a
sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not useing an MS
product. And, for the record, we have six home computers networked
together. One of them may be capable of booting XP - I'm not sure because
I haven't tried since we got it (immediately installed Linux on it and
that's what we've used). We've been 100% Linux for over five years.

 

"Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> I asked you about the contradition and you can't provide an answer.
> Speaking out of your ass again?
>
> Again, how did I contracdict myself? You can't answer can you?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Allow me to explain in plain English.
You said:
"First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited. Second, it will be
geared towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down version."

The sentence "First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited." means
Google has produced an OS. The sentence "Second, it will be geared towards
notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down version." means Google will
release an OS. You appear to be referring to the same product, yet you've
combined present tense with future tense. As far as I know, Google hasn't
released any OS, and has one planned for release next year. So, to make
your statements true you should have said "First of all the Google OS will
be FREE and very limited. Second, it will be geared towards notebooks so it
is probably a very stripped down version."

 

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> BTW
> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on 13 of
> the 14 public access internet computers at the local library. Folks have
> been using them for over four years and zero complaints to date - a
> sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not useing an MS
> product. And, for the record, we have six home computers networked
> together. One of them may be capable of booting XP - I'm not sure because
> I haven't tried since we got it (immediately installed Linux on it and
> that's what we've used). We've been 100% Linux for over five years.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux users is
on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who actually uses it, don't
see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in their homes. All seems to be
Windows or Mac that I see in the real world.

 

"Eric" <someone@idontwantspam.com> wrote in message
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> "Bill Yanaire" <bill@yanaire.net> wrote in message
> news:rZ25m.3606$vO4.2269@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>
>> I asked you about the contradition and you can't provide an answer.
>> Speaking out of your ass again?
>>
>> Again, how did I contracdict myself? You can't answer can you?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> Allow me to explain in plain English.
> You said:
> "First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited. Second, it will be
> geared towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down version."
>
> The sentence "First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited." means
> Google has produced an OS. The sentence "Second, it will be geared
> towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down version." means
> Google will release an OS. You appear to be referring to the same
> product, yet you've combined present tense with future tense. As far as I
> know, Google hasn't released any OS, and has one planned for release next
> year. So, to make your statements true you should have said "First of all
> the Google OS will be FREE and very limited. Second, it will be geared
> towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped down version."
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

OK so I should have said that the OS will be free. Big deal. I don't
remember reading anywhere that posts will be graded!

My English lession for today!

 

On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:41:21 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
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> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7bjrv6F1u6fq6U72@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:09:05 -0700, Over Easy, ESQ wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7bjqp2F1u6fq6U70@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:25:42 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
to-<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> google-os-next-monday
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited. Second, it
>>>>> will be geared towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped
>>>>> down version.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> Two sentences and you've contradicted yourself ('is free' 'will be')
>>>> that may be a record!
>>>>
>>> What is the contradiction? The first sententence states that the
>>> product is free. The second says what it's going to be.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> If you can't tell the difference between 'is' and 'will be' you need to
>> go back to grammar school.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I asked you about the contradition and you can't provide an answer.
> Speaking out of your ass again?
>
> Again, how did I contracdict myself? You can't answer can you?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You contradicted yourself by telling us what it 'is' then speaking of
what it 'will be' when it hasn't even been released yet. I don't know how
I can make it any more clear, but then you can't teach calculus to the
janitor's cat, either.

 

On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:01:10 -0700, Charles Tomaras wrote:
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> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> BTW
>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on 13
>> of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library. Folks
>> have been using them for over four years and zero complaints to date -
>> a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not useing an MS
>> product. And, for the record, we have six home computers networked
>> together. One of them may be capable of booting XP - I'm not sure
>> because I haven't tried since we got it (immediately installed Linux on
>> it and that's what we've used). We've been 100% Linux for over five
>> years.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux users
> is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who actually uses
> it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in their homes. All
> seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real world.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're more than welcome to visit the Portneuf District Library, for one
- there are a multitude of other examples.

 

"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
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>
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> BTW
>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on 13
>> of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library.
>> Folks have been using them for over four years and zero complaints to
>> date - a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not useing
>> an MS product. And, for the record, we have six home computers
>> networked together. One of them may be capable of booting XP - I'm
>> not sure because I haven't tried since we got it (immediately
>> installed Linux on it and that's what we've used). We've been 100%
>> Linux for over five years. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux
> users is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who actually
> uses it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in their homes.
> All seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real world. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Here's one.....



Read the first post, and then look at the pic in the link in that post.

 

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7bk055F1u6fq6U75@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:41:21 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7bjrv6F1u6fq6U72@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:09:05 -0700, Over Easy, ESQ wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7bjqp2F1u6fq6U70@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 06:25:42 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> to-<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>> google-os-next-monday
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all the Google OS is FREE and very limited. Second, it
>>>>>> will be geared towards notebooks so it is probably a very stripped
>>>>>> down version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Two sentences and you've contradicted yourself ('is free' 'will be')
>>>>> that may be a record!
>>>>>
>>>> What is the contradiction? The first sententence states that the
>>>> product is free. The second says what it's going to be.
>>>
>>> If you can't tell the difference between 'is' and 'will be' you need to
>>> go back to grammar school.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I asked you about the contradition and you can't provide an answer.
>> Speaking out of your ass again?
>>
>> Again, how did I contracdict myself? You can't answer can you?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You contradicted yourself by telling us what it 'is' then speaking of
> what it 'will be' when it hasn't even been released yet. I don't know how
> I can make it any more clear, but then you can't teach calculus to the
> janitor's cat, either.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Got it!

 

"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:7bk08qF1u6fq6U76@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:01:10 -0700, Charles Tomaras wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> BTW
>>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on 13
>>> of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library. Folks
>>> have been using them for over four years and zero complaints to date -
>>> a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not useing an MS
>>> product. And, for the record, we have six home computers networked
>>> together. One of them may be capable of booting XP - I'm not sure
>>> because I haven't tried since we got it (immediately installed Linux on
>>> it and that's what we've used). We've been 100% Linux for over five
>>> years.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux users
>> is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who actually uses
>> it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in their homes. All
>> seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real world.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You're more than welcome to visit the Portneuf District Library, for one
> - there are a multitude of other examples.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I'm not disputing your public library or your personal experiences. I'm just
telling you about my experiences. NOT ONCE have I ever seen Linux in use in
a personal computer in my fairly normal day to day life. Not in my library,
not in the homes of my friends, not at the coffee shop, not at the airport
or on flights, not in the retail stores I go to, not in the computer
oriented stores small and large I go to, not in emails from my friends and
acquaintances. The ONLY place I ever hear about Linux is on newsgroups and
tech blogs.

I would however be curious about your "multitude" of examples because I just
don't see a multitude of anything when it comes to Linux. Certainly the
adoption figures I see bantered about the internet do not support use of the
word multitude. Your relatively small and geographically isolated community
in Idaho may indeed have a bigger adoption rate for linux for whatever
reasons but I sure don't see that in many other places.

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9C4281A5B3FEEthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
> news:ep35m.17042$wE4.9333@newsfe02.iad:
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>>
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> BTW
>>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on 13
>>> of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library.
>>> Folks have been using them for over four years and zero complaints to
>>> date - a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not useing
>>> an MS product. And, for the record, we have six home computers
>>> networked together. One of them may be capable of booting XP - I'm
>>> not sure because I haven't tried since we got it (immediately
>>> installed Linux on it and that's what we've used). We've been 100%
>>> Linux for over five years.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux
>> users is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who actually
>> uses it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in their homes.
>> All seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real world.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Here's one.....
>
>
>
> Read the first post, and then look at the pic in the link in that post.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Well there you go, another internet specific unix forum with a personal
photo link. Once again, I'll say I've never seen much about Linux anywhere
except for tech blogs.

With Windows and Mac one doesn't have to "read the first post and then look
at the pic in the link in that post" to find Windows and Mac.

 

"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
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>
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7bk08qF1u6fq6U76@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:01:10 -0700, Charles Tomaras wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...
>>>> BTW
>>>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on
>>>> 13 of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library.
>>>> Folks have been using them for over four years and zero complaints
>>>> to date - a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not
>>>> useing an MS product. And, for the record, we have six home
>>>> computers networked together. One of them may be capable of booting
>>>> XP - I'm not sure because I haven't tried since we got it
>>>> (immediately installed Linux on it and that's what we've used).
>>>> We've been 100% Linux for over five years.
>>>
>>> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux
>>> users is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who
>>> actually uses it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in
>>> their homes. All seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real
>>> world. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> You're more than welcome to visit the Portneuf District Library, for
>> one - there are a multitude of other examples.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I'm not disputing your public library or your personal experiences.
> I'm just telling you about my experiences. NOT ONCE have I ever seen
> Linux in use in a personal computer in my fairly normal day to day
> life. Not in my library, not in the homes of my friends, not at the
> coffee shop, not at the airport or on flights, not in the retail
> stores I go to, not in the computer oriented stores small and large I
> go to, not in emails from my friends and acquaintances. The ONLY place
> I ever hear about Linux is on newsgroups and tech blogs.
>
> I would however be curious about your "multitude" of examples because
> I just don't see a multitude of anything when it comes to Linux.
> Certainly the adoption figures I see bantered about the internet do
> not support use of the word multitude. Your relatively small and
> geographically isolated community in Idaho may indeed have a bigger
> adoption rate for linux for whatever reasons but I sure don't see that
> in many other places. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I found this interesting.....



(Not knowing how old this is.)

 

DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in
news:Xns9C429D8D623BFthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I'm not disputing your public library or your personal experiences.
>> I'm just telling you about my experiences. NOT ONCE have I ever seen
>> Linux in use in a personal computer in my fairly normal day to day
>> life. Not in my library, not in the homes of my friends, not at the
>> coffee shop, not at the airport or on flights, not in the retail
>> stores I go to, not in the computer oriented stores small and large I
>> go to, not in emails from my friends and acquaintances. The ONLY place
>> I ever hear about Linux is on newsgroups and tech blogs.
>>
>> I would however be curious about your "multitude" of examples because
>> I just don't see a multitude of anything when it comes to Linux.
>> Certainly the adoption figures I see bantered about the internet do
>> not support use of the word multitude. Your relatively small and
>> geographically isolated community in Idaho may indeed have a bigger
>> adoption rate for linux for whatever reasons but I sure don't see that
>> in many other places. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I found this interesting.....
>
>
>
> (Not knowing how old this is.)<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Seems to be from 2003, so maybe not relevant.

 

"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
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> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C4281A5B3FEEthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
>> news:ep35m.17042$wE4.9333@newsfe02.iad:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...
>>>> BTW
>>>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on
>>>> 13 of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library.
>>>> Folks have been using them for over four years and zero complaints
>>>> to date - a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not
>>>> useing an MS product. And, for the record, we have six home
>>>> computers networked together. One of them may be capable of booting
>>>> XP - I'm not sure because I haven't tried since we got it
>>>> (immediately installed Linux on it and that's what we've used).
>>>> We've been 100% Linux for over five years.
>>>
>>> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux
>>> users is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who
>>> actually uses it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in
>>> their homes. All seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real
>>> world. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Here's one.....
>>
>>
>>
>> Read the first post, and then look at the pic in the link in that
>> post. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Well there you go, another internet specific unix forum with a
> personal photo link. Once again, I'll say I've never seen much about
> Linux anywhere except for tech blogs.
>
> With Windows and Mac one doesn't have to "read the first post and then
> look at the pic in the link in that post" to find Windows and Mac.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You asked who uses Linux in the real world, I provided a link showing a
company that does, in the real world.

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9C429F393D451thisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
> news:Xn65m.57126$K24.8956@newsfe19.iad:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9C4281A5B3FEEthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
>>> news:ep35m.17042$wE4.9333@newsfe02.iad:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> BTW
>>>>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on
>>>>> 13 of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library.
>>>>> Folks have been using them for over four years and zero complaints
>>>>> to date - a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not
>>>>> useing an MS product. And, for the record, we have six home
>>>>> computers networked together. One of them may be capable of booting
>>>>> XP - I'm not sure because I haven't tried since we got it
>>>>> (immediately installed Linux on it and that's what we've used).
>>>>> We've been 100% Linux for over five years.
>>>>
>>>> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux
>>>> users is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who
>>>> actually uses it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in
>>>> their homes. All seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real
>>>> world.
>>>
>>> Here's one.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read the first post, and then look at the pic in the link in that
>>> post.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Well there you go, another internet specific unix forum with a
>> personal photo link. Once again, I'll say I've never seen much about
>> Linux anywhere except for tech blogs.
>>
>> With Windows and Mac one doesn't have to "read the first post and then
>> look at the pic in the link in that post" to find Windows and Mac.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You asked who uses Linux in the real world, I provided a link showing a
> company that does, in the real world.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

OK - So there is ONE company. BFD.

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9C429F393D451thisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
> news:Xn65m.57126$K24.8956@newsfe19.iad:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9C4281A5B3FEEthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
>>> news:ep35m.17042$wE4.9333@newsfe02.iad:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> BTW
>>>>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on
>>>>> 13 of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library.
>>>>> Folks have been using them for over four years and zero complaints
>>>>> to date - a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not
>>>>> useing an MS product. And, for the record, we have six home
>>>>> computers networked together. One of them may be capable of booting
>>>>> XP - I'm not sure because I haven't tried since we got it
>>>>> (immediately installed Linux on it and that's what we've used).
>>>>> We've been 100% Linux for over five years.
>>>>
>>>> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux
>>>> users is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who
>>>> actually uses it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in
>>>> their homes. All seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real
>>>> world.
>>>
>>> Here's one.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read the first post, and then look at the pic in the link in that
>>> post.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Well there you go, another internet specific unix forum with a
>> personal photo link. Once again, I'll say I've never seen much about
>> Linux anywhere except for tech blogs.
>>
>> With Windows and Mac one doesn't have to "read the first post and then
>> look at the pic in the link in that post" to find Windows and Mac.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You asked who uses Linux in the real world, I provided a link showing a
> company that does, in the real world.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
One company = a "whole host of 'non-geeks'"?
What company is that? How do we know they're not geeks?
I bet you could find a few more, but reality is about 95% of IBM-PC machines
run a MS OS.
Most companies now are running XP Pro.

 

On Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:36:29 -0500, DanS wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in
> news:Xns9C429D8D623BFthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I'm not disputing your public library or your personal experiences.
>>> I'm just telling you about my experiences. NOT ONCE have I ever seen
>>> Linux in use in a personal computer in my fairly normal day to day
>>> life. Not in my library, not in the homes of my friends, not at the
>>> coffee shop, not at the airport or on flights, not in the retail
>>> stores I go to, not in the computer oriented stores small and large I
>>> go to, not in emails from my friends and acquaintances. The ONLY place
>>> I ever hear about Linux is on newsgroups and tech blogs.
>>>
>>> I would however be curious about your "multitude" of examples because
>>> I just don't see a multitude of anything when it comes to Linux.
>>> Certainly the adoption figures I see bantered about the internet do
>>> not support use of the word multitude. Your relatively small and
>>> geographically isolated community in Idaho may indeed have a bigger
>>> adoption rate for linux for whatever reasons but I sure don't see that
>>> in many other places. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I found this interesting.....
>>
>>
>>
>> (Not knowing how old this is.)<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Seems to be from 2003, so maybe not relevant.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

From the site you linked to:
"As of 2008-03-23, there are 717 entries in this list."

Although it's old (472 days, a bit over a year and a quarter), it's not
2003

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

 

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9C429F393D451thisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
> news:Xn65m.57126$K24.8956@newsfe19.iad:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9C4281A5B3FEEthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in
>>> news:ep35m.17042$wE4.9333@newsfe02.iad:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7bjs7oF1u6fq6U73@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> BTW
>>>>> - I know a whole host of 'non-geeks' using Linux. We have Linux on
>>>>> 13 of the 14 public access internet computers at the local library.
>>>>> Folks have been using them for over four years and zero complaints
>>>>> to date - a sizable number of them seem to be unaware they're not
>>>>> useing an MS product. And, for the record, we have six home
>>>>> computers networked together. One of them may be capable of booting
>>>>> XP - I'm not sure because I haven't tried since we got it
>>>>> (immediately installed Linux on it and that's what we've used).
>>>>> We've been 100% Linux for over five years.
>>>>
>>>> I'll put in another vote that the only place I've ever seen Linux
>>>> users is on a tech related newsgroup. I don't know anyone who
>>>> actually uses it, don't see them at the coffee shop, on jobs or in
>>>> their homes. All seems to be Windows or Mac that I see in the real
>>>> world.
>>>
>>> Here's one.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read the first post, and then look at the pic in the link in that
>>> post.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Well there you go, another internet specific unix forum with a
>> personal photo link. Once again, I'll say I've never seen much about
>> Linux anywhere except for tech blogs.
>>
>> With Windows and Mac one doesn't have to "read the first post and then
>> look at the pic in the link in that post" to find Windows and Mac.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You asked who uses Linux in the real world, I provided a link showing a
> company that does, in the real world.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

No, actually I said that I haven't seen it in MY "real" world. I only see it
on the internet in tech links like the one you provided. One would expect to
see links like that on a "fixunix" web site under ubuntu. I'm not disputing
your link I'm just saying it's not very prevalent and in my day to day,
going about my non tech business real life it just doesn't seem to exist.