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Printer is on or off??

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by honeydew, Sep 9, 2009.

  1. honeydew

    honeydew Guest

    Is there any way for a blind person, using only a keyboard
    and a screen reader (Jaws), to find out if her printer has
    been turned off (or on)???

    Using Windows Vista Home Basic.

    Thanks,
    honeydew@mfi.net
     
  2. Saucy

    Saucy Guest

    Hi.

    All I could do was check how a printer was indicated on a copy of Windows
    Vista Home Basic here, with Windows Narrator turned on.

    Windows Narrator will inform the user that a printer status is either
    "Ready" or "Off Line", but does not determine for the user whether the
    device is electrically ON or OFF. You determine status by opening Printers,
    then selecting the printer in question. Windows Narrator will read out the
    printer's name, status, and number of documents in the queue.

    As far as I can tell, it might be better to determine the electrical state
    of the device at the device itself, with the blind person knowing by feel
    the what the position of the device's toggle switch indicates.

    Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.

    Saucy


    "honeydew" <honeydew@mfi.net> wrote in message
    news:uusamXZMKHA.5460@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Is there any way for a blind person, using only a keyboard
    > and a screen reader (Jaws), to find out if her printer has
    > been turned off (or on)???
    >
    > Using Windows Vista Home Basic.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > honeydew@mfi.net <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Guest

    "honeydew" <honeydew@mfi.net> wrote in message news:uusamXZMKHA.5460@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Is there any way for a blind person, using only a keyboard
    > and a screen reader (Jaws), to find out if her printer has
    > been turned off (or on)???
    >
    > Using Windows Vista Home Basic.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > honeydew@mfi.net<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    All I can think of is to unplug and then re-plug the usb lead to the printer.
    If the printer is on then Vista will play a Device disconnect system sound.
    If the printer is off then there will be no sound.
    To avoid wearing out the printer's usb socket maybe get a usb
    extension lead and unplug/plug the connectors in the lead.

    This assumes the blind person can manipulate the leads.

    Hopefully somebody will have a more elegant answer.
     
  4. Saucy

    Saucy Guest

    I think the blind person will have to be able to determine whether the
    electrics are on of off from the printer itself, by feeling the position of
    the toggle switch - if it has one - or by pulling the plug. That would be
    the only sure way, as far as I can tell. They should make sure only devices
    with toggle switches are obtained. They should avoid devices with just push
    buttons (which give no indication by feel of the device's electrical
    state) - considerations to take into account when setting up computer
    equipment for the blind.

    But the poster really should contact a service organization that supports
    the visually impaired.

    In Canada, I think the poster might check with the C.N.I.B. :



    Perhaps they would have advice - as I'm sure these days, the blind are very
    involved with computing and computers.

    Saucy



    "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
    news:uhLTakhMKHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "honeydew" <honeydew@mfi.net> wrote in message
    > news:uusamXZMKHA.5460@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Is there any way for a blind person, using only a keyboard
    >> and a screen reader (Jaws), to find out if her printer has
    >> been turned off (or on)???
    >>
    >> Using Windows Vista Home Basic.
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    honeydew@mfi.net<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > All I can think of is to unplug and then re-plug the usb lead to the
    > printer.
    > If the printer is on then Vista will play a Device disconnect system
    > sound.
    > If the printer is off then there will be no sound.
    > To avoid wearing out the printer's usb socket maybe get a usb
    > extension lead and unplug/plug the connectors in the lead.
    >
    > This assumes the blind person can manipulate the leads.
    >
    > Hopefully somebody will have a more elegant answer.
    >
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. Here's what honeydew wrote on 9/09/09:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Is there any way for a blind person, using only a keyboard
    > and a screen reader (Jaws), to find out if her printer has
    > been turned off (or on)???<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Using Windows Vista Home Basic.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Thanks,
    > honeydew@mfi.net<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I'll try to remember to ask my friend at lunch today if he knows this,
    but my track record on asking him such questions is dismal :)

    I like Saucy's ideas about power switches, but they do require a nearby
    printer.

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  6. Here's what Gene E. Bloch wrote on 9/10/09:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Here's what honeydew wrote on 9/09/09:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Is there any way for a blind person, using only a keyboard
    >> and a screen reader (Jaws), to find out if her printer has
    >> been turned off (or on)???<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Using Windows Vista Home Basic.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Thanks,
    >> honeydew@mfi.net<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I'll try to remember to ask my friend at lunch today if he knows this, but my
    > track record on asking him such questions is dismal :)<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I like Saucy's ideas about power switches, but they do require a nearby
    > printer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    My friend is legally blind, but not totally without vision. He can
    usually detect indicator lights or illuminated LCD screens - so if the
    person you speak of can detect them, and the printer has one, that's a
    possible trick.

    His preference is to keep his printer plugged into a switched power
    strip. When he turns the power strip on, he listens for the printer's
    startup sounds. Silence implies printer not on.

    He doesn't like momentary contact switches either, oddly enough.

    Anyway, no one at lunch had a better idea, sorry.

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  7. Saucy

    Saucy Guest

    Windows Narrator will read aloud the status of the printer (Offline or
    Ready) which is indicative of, but does not confirm its electrical state (ON
    or OFF). To confirm that you'd need a something which gives your friend the
    physical information he needs to determine that - either a toggle switch or
    a light bright and big enough that correctly indicates the power state.
    There's also the plugging and unplugging of the USB cord. Windows gives off
    a ding dong when it detects a working USB device plugging in.

    Your friend could have a link on the Desktop to the Printers folder for
    quicker access, and a link to start Windows Narrator there too for a read on
    device status.

    Of course, the solution will be very specific to the equipment available,
    available resources to aquire perhaps more accessible equipment, and your
    friends needs and abilities.

    You haven't mentioned if you contacted the CNIB or the equivalent
    organization in the U.S. (or what country you are in), which I highly
    recommend.

    Saucy


    "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
    news:#5h1qnyMKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Here's what Gene E. Bloch wrote on 9/10/09:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Here's what honeydew wrote on 9/09/09:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Is there any way for a blind person, using only a keyboard
    >>> and a screen reader (Jaws), to find out if her printer has
    >>> been turned off (or on)???<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Using Windows Vista Home Basic.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Thanks,
    >>> honeydew@mfi.net<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I'll try to remember to ask my friend at lunch today if he knows this,
    >> but my track record on asking him such questions is dismal :)<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I like Saucy's ideas about power switches, but they do require a nearby
    >> printer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > My friend is legally blind, but not totally without vision. He can usually
    > detect indicator lights or illuminated LCD screens - so if the person you
    > speak of can detect them, and the printer has one, that's a possible
    > trick.
    >
    > His preference is to keep his printer plugged into a switched power strip.
    > When he turns the power strip on, he listens for the printer's startup
    > sounds. Silence implies printer not on.
    >
    > He doesn't like momentary contact switches either, oddly enough.
    >
    > Anyway, no one at lunch had a better idea, sorry.
    >
    > --
    > Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  8. Intended for Honeydew, the OP...

    Here's what Saucy wrote on 9/11/09:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Windows Narrator will read aloud the status of the printer (Offline or Ready)
    > which is indicative of, but does not confirm its electrical state (ON or
    > OFF). To confirm that you'd need a something which gives your friend the
    > physical information he needs to determine that - either a toggle switch or a
    > light bright and big enough that correctly indicates the power state. There's
    > also the plugging and unplugging of the USB cord. Windows gives off a ding
    > dong when it detects a working USB device plugging in.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Your friend could have a link on the Desktop to the Printers folder for
    > quicker access, and a link to start Windows Narrator there too for a read on
    > device status.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Of course, the solution will be very specific to the equipment available,
    > available resources to aquire perhaps more accessible equipment, and your
    > friends needs and abilities.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > You haven't mentioned if you contacted the CNIB or the equivalent
    > organization in the U.S. (or what country you are in), which I highly
    > recommend.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Saucy<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Gene E. Bloch" <letters@someplace.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:#5h1qnyMKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Here's what Gene E. Bloch wrote on 9/10/09:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Here's what honeydew wrote on 9/09/09:
    >>>> Is there any way for a blind person, using only a keyboard
    >>>> and a screen reader (Jaws), to find out if her printer has
    >>>> been turned off (or on)???<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>> Using Windows Vista Home Basic.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>> Thanks,
    >>>> honeydew@mfi.net<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I'll try to remember to ask my friend at lunch today if he knows this, but
    >>> my track record on asking him such questions is dismal :)<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I like Saucy's ideas about power switches, but they do require a nearby
    >>> printer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> My friend is legally blind, but not totally without vision. He can usually
    >> detect indicator lights or illuminated LCD screens - so if the person you
    >> speak of can detect them, and the printer has one, that's a possible trick.
    >>
    >> His preference is to keep his printer plugged into a switched power strip.
    >> When he turns the power strip on, he listens for the printer's startup
    >> sounds. Silence implies printer not on.
    >>
    >> He doesn't like momentary contact switches either, oddly enough.
    >>
    >> Anyway, no one at lunch had a better idea, sorry.
    >>
    >> -- Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
    >>
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     

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