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Please help me to remove the virus/trojan completely!!

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by ric99, Jul 17, 2009.

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  1. ric99

    ric99 Guest

    I would love to thank Dave-UK,Saucy,Eric and Alias for being so kind and
    helpful and providing me with useful information about my problem.

    Accordingly,as Mr. Dave-UK suggested,I downloaded Malware bytes from
    the given site and ran the program in safe mode,but the virus seems to
    be connected to my internet,as in,the more I use the net,the more it
    keeps spreading.

    I honestly respect the advices given by Saucy,Eric and Alias and I'am
    very grateful to them as well,but since the laptop doesnot belong to me
    originally,I'am not allowed to take a risk and perform tasks of System
    Restore etc.

    Thank you all so much!!


    --
    ric99
     
    ric99, Jul 17, 2009
    #21
  3. Eric

    Eric Guest

    "ric99" <hammer_richie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:64f873bf7afae0e0f1c9c716fc7a0dab@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > I would love to thank Dave-UK,Saucy,Eric and Alias for being so kind and
    > helpful and providing me with useful information about my problem.
    >
    > Accordingly,as Mr. Dave-UK suggested,I downloaded Malware bytes from
    > the given site and ran the program in safe mode,but the virus seems to
    > be connected to my internet,as in,the more I use the net,the more it
    > keeps spreading.
    >
    > I honestly respect the advices given by Saucy,Eric and Alias and I'am
    > very grateful to them as well,but since the laptop doesnot belong to me
    > originally,I'am not allowed to take a risk and perform tasks of System
    > Restore etc.
    >
    > Thank you all so much!!
    >
    >
    > --
    > ric99<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You say you are using Avast. The second Google result for "Win32:Tiny-II"
    goes to the Avast forum. It sounds like that have the same issue. Someone
    posted this response:
    "Try a boot time scan with avast! Right click the scanner screen, select
    'schedule a boot time scan' and reboot when requested."
    Have you tried this?
     
    Eric, Jul 17, 2009
    #22
  4. Spook

    Spook Guest

    I see you take a lot of flak in this ng. Just a question, why would it not
    happen withLinux. I run Win Vista, I really do not know about Linux. This is
    an honest question.
    Cheers.

    --
    Spook
    spook@xnets.co.za

    "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
    news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Eric wrote:
    > Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
    >
    > Alias <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Spook, Jul 17, 2009
    #23
  5. Mike

    Mike Guest

    "Vlad-the-Impaler" <vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote in message
    news:4a60a26f@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Mike wrote:
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
    >> killing cats. Every one of them is having kernel problems. Now I will
    >> side
    >> with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or malware problems with
    >> Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You have a stupid group of friends.
    > I'm running Linux now...no kernel problems.
    > Its running a program.
    >
    > Pretty damn easy to use.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I'm impressed, Vlad! <lol> If you want to impress me further start killing
    cats.
    --


    Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
     
    Mike, Jul 17, 2009
    #24
  6. Mike

    Mike Guest

    "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
    news:h3q96u$ifs$3@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Mike wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:h3q55r$nac$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Mike wrote:
    >>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>>>> Eric wrote:
    >>>>>> Have you tried System Restore?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to
    >>>>>> the point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps is
    >>>>>> to keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days comes with up
    >>>>>> to 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB hard drive costs
    >>>>>> under $100. For that you could make 3 partitions and store up to 3
    >>>>>> backups at a time. If you run an AV check before a backup and it
    >>>>>> finds something drastic like this you can wipe your system and
    >>>>>> restore a backup instead.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Alias
    >>>>
    >>>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.
    >>>
    >>> Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run Linux, you
    >>> STILL don't have to worry about this crap.
    >>>
    >>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
    >> killing cats.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Your hobby is killing cats?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Absolutely!
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Every one of them is having kernel problems.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Weird, I haven't ever had a problem with the kernel.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    That's because you only eat the ones out of a can.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Now I will side with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or
    >> malware problems with Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > I'm running a few programs right now, liar.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    The equivalent of Atari 2600 software I surmise.

    --


    Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
     
    Mike, Jul 17, 2009
    #25
  7. Mike

    Mike Guest

    "milt" <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
    news:#ZskEnvBKHA.892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Mike wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> ...and this should bother me, why? You can add yourself to the rest
    >> who've k/f'd me because of my replies to my favorite moron.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Fair enough, its obvious I wouldn't miss anything by not reading your
    > replies anyhow.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Just some levity, but as you said, you wouldn't miss it.
    --


    Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
     
    Mike, Jul 17, 2009
    #26
  8. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    DanS wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Bill Yanaire, ESQ" <bill@yanaire.gov> wrote in news:h3q7v8$tkp$1
    > @news.eternal-september.org:
    >
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> That isn't what 99% of the posters tell you. You have reading
    >> comprehension problems. When everyone tells you that you don't belong, <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Far from eveyone tells him he doesn't belong here.
    >
    > And why doesn't he belong here ?
    >
    > If the mission is to get people to use Ubuntu/Linux, why the hell would
    > you go to a Linux group where everyone is either already a Linux user, or
    > a Windows zealot with extremely predujiced pre-conceived notions that are
    > there only to troll.....like you.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    He should go where he can do the most good. This forum isn't that
    place. Just like going to a Ford Dealership and telling everyone in
    line for service that Chevy has a discount on their parts!

    Get a life.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > It seems logical to me that you would want to go where the people are
    > that aren't using it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    It would seem logical for him to go where people would be receptive to
    Ubuntu. That isn't happening here. If you have the brains to follow
    his posts and replies, everyone tells him to go away.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > But then, logical never was your strong suit.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    According to your post, being logical escapes even you. Try again.
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 17, 2009
    #27
  9. ric99

    ric99 Guest

    Eric;1563927 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "ric99" <hammer_richie********.com> wrote in message
    > news:64f873bf7afae0e0f1c9c716fc7a0dab@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > >
    > > I would love to thank Dave-UK,Saucy,Eric and Alias for being so kind<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > and<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > helpful and providing me with useful information about my problem.
    > >
    > > Accordingly,as Mr. Dave-UK suggested,I downloaded Malware bytes from
    > > the given site and ran the program in safe mode,but the virus seems<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > to<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > be connected to my internet,as in,the more I use the net,the more it
    > > keeps spreading.
    > >
    > > I honestly respect the advices given by Saucy,Eric and Alias and<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > I'am<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > very grateful to them as well,but since the laptop doesnot belong to<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > me<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > originally,I'am not allowed to take a risk and perform tasks of<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > System<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Restore etc.
    > >
    > > Thank you all so much!!
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > ric99<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You say you are using Avast. The second Google result for
    > "Win32:Tiny-II"
    > goes to the Avast forum. It sounds like that have the same issue.
    > Someone
    > posted this response:
    > "Try a boot time scan with avast! Right click the scanner screen,
    > select
    > 'schedule a boot time scan' and reboot when requested."
    > Have you tried this?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Yes Sir,I tried that as well but it didnot help in any way.Even if
    Avast detects the virus etc and deletes it,the virus keeps appearing in
    the files in the 'Temporary Internet files' folder and in the 'Temp'
    folder as I keep using the Internet.I'am not able to remove it
    completely.Its just spreading!!


    --
    ric99
     
    ric99, Jul 17, 2009
    #28
  10. Manny Weisbord

    Manny Weisbord Guest

    "Spook" <spook@xnets.co.za> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I see you take a lot of flak in this ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    And it's well-freaking-deserved. The bleeping idiot is a troll.
     
    Manny Weisbord, Jul 17, 2009
    #29
  11. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    Manny Weisbord wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Spook" <spook@xnets.co.za> wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I see you take a lot of flak in this ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > And it's well-freaking-deserved. The bleeping idiot is a troll.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Is a bleep like a plonk or is a bleep like a beam of light? Please explain.
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 17, 2009
    #30
  12. Duck,Duck,Goose

    Duck,Duck,Goose Guest

    "Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4it1655vbfd1h6unso90fofdino8umel8m@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Spook" <spook@xnets.co.za> wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>I see you take a lot of flak in this ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > And it's well-freaking-deserved. The bleeping idiot is a troll.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    He's a small monster that lives under a bridge?
    I thought they were fictional.
     
    Duck,Duck,Goose, Jul 17, 2009
    #31
  13. Alias

    Alias Guest

    Spook wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I see you take a lot of flak in this ng. Just a question, why would it
    > not happen withLinux. I run Win Vista, I really do not know about Linux.
    > This is an honest question.
    > Cheers.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Go here: and read about it.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jul 17, 2009
    #32
  14. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Spook wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I see you take a lot of flak in this ng. Just a question, why would it
    >> not happen withLinux. I run Win Vista, I really do not know about
    >> Linux. This is an honest question.
    >> Cheers.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Go here: <DISGUSTING LINK REMOVED> and read about it.
    >
    > Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Why would anyone want to read about Linux? Everyone knows that Linux sucks.
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 20, 2009
    #33
  15. Mike

    Mike Guest

    I have just come back to say sorry to Vlad & Alias for being such an
    a**hole, my wife left me yesterday so I know what it's like to be sad and
    lonely now. I can't help myself sometimes because I'm such a pr*ck,

    Sorry everybody

    --

    Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you

    "Vlad-the-Impaler" <vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote in message
    news:4a60a26f@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Mike wrote:
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
    >> killing cats. Every one of them is having kernel problems. Now I will
    >> side
    >> with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or malware problems with
    >> Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You have a stupid group of friends.
    > I'm running Linux now...no kernel problems.
    > Its running a program.
    >
    > Pretty damn easy to use.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mike, Jul 27, 2009
    #34
  16. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Loser!

    --


    Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.


    "Mike" <rathbunger@g-nospam-mail.com> wrote in message
    news:uLE5WQpDKHA.2832@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I have just come back to say sorry to Vlad & Alias for being such an
    > a**hole, my wife left me yesterday so I know what it's like to be sad and
    > lonely now. I can't help myself sometimes because I'm such a pr*ck,
    >
    > Sorry everybody
    >
    > --
    >
    > Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you
    >
    > "Vlad-the-Impaler" <vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote in message
    > news:4a60a26f@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Mike wrote:
    >>
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>
    >>> I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
    >>> killing cats. Every one of them is having kernel problems. Now I will
    >>> side
    >>> with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or malware problems with
    >>> Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> You have a stupid group of friends.
    >> I'm running Linux now...no kernel problems.
    >> Its running a program.
    >>
    >> Pretty damn easy to use.
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mike, Jul 27, 2009
    #35
  17. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Guest

    Do not put yourself down Mike, you are not a loser and don't never think
    that of yourself. Do not worry about your wife leaving you. you yourself
    admitted that you don't get them feelings for women anymore and that you
    have broke free from the chains of heterosexuality.

    I thoroughly enjoy our time together and I can tell now, you really let
    yourself go full throttle with me!

    We will definitely work out together, you'll see.

    Speak soon gorgeous X

    --
    Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

    "Mike" <rathbunger@g-nospam-mail.com> wrote in message
    news:CA4789A2-9C95-4592-803A-78A2C8DDFE49@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Loser!
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    > If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
    >
    >
    > "Mike" <rathbunger@g-nospam-mail.com> wrote in message
    > news:uLE5WQpDKHA.2832@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I have just come back to say sorry to Vlad & Alias for being such an
    >> a**hole, my wife left me yesterday so I know what it's like to be sad and
    >> lonely now. I can't help myself sometimes because I'm such a pr*ck,
    >>
    >> Sorry everybody
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    >> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you
    >>
    >> "Vlad-the-Impaler" <vlad@headsonastick.ow> wrote in message
    >> news:4a60a26f@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Mike wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
    >>>> killing cats. Every one of them is having kernel problems. Now I will
    >>>> side
    >>>> with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or malware problems
    >>>> with
    >>>> Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!
    >>>
    >>> You have a stupid group of friends.
    >>> I'm running Linux now...no kernel problems.
    >>> Its running a program.
    >>>
    >>> Pretty damn easy to use.
    >>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Jul 28, 2009
    #36
  18. Jim

    Jim Guest

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    On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:48:18 +0100, "Gene E. Bloch"
    <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Do not put yourself down Mike, you are not a loser and don't never think
    >that of yourself. Do not worry about your wife leaving you. you yourself
    >admitted that you don't get them feelings for women anymore and that you
    >have broke free from the chains of heterosexuality.
    >
    >I thoroughly enjoy our time together and I can tell now, you really let
    >yourself go full throttle with me!
    >
    >We will definitely work out together, you'll see.
    >
    >Speak soon gorgeous X<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Jim, Jul 28, 2009
    #37
  19. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Thanks for the info Jim.

    --

    Don't pick a fight with an old man.
    If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.



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    >>Do not put yourself down Mike, you are not a loser and don't never think
    >>that of yourself. Do not worry about your wife leaving you. you yourself
    >>admitted that you don't get them feelings for women anymore and that you
    >>have broke free from the chains of heterosexuality.
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    >>I thoroughly enjoy our time together and I can tell now, you really let
    >>yourself go full throttle with me!
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    >>We will definitely work out together, you'll see.
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    >>Speak soon gorgeous X <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Mike, Jul 28, 2009
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    Gene E. Bloch Guest

    Thanks, Jim

    /s/ The actual Gene E. Bloch

    On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:13:45 +0100, Jim wrote:
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    <SNIP>


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    Gene E. Bloch, Jul 28, 2009
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