Please help me to remove the virus/trojan completely!!

Hey friends,I do understand that this is not the category in which I'am
supposed to post such threads,but since this section/community is very
active and consists of many professionals I thought of posting it here.I
posted a thread in the other section meant for virus but unfortunately
did not receive any kind of help or reply.So if possible I would like
any of the professionals to help me with my problem.

My problem is as follows:

I downloaded a video through utorrents,when I tried to play it through
'Windows Media Player' it was'nt able to play it and a dialogue box
appeared asking me to download a codec which was necessary to play that
video.Since the dialogue box appeared through 'Windows Media Player' and
due to my ignorance,I thought it was authorized and downloaded the
codec.

After downloading the codec the video still did not play and another
dialogue box of 'Microsoft Windows' appeared saying : ms32.info not
working.So i shut down my laptop and turned it on again.It started as
normal,but after loading all the icons etc my antivirus(Avast Antivirus
Professional 4.8) detected many viruses,trojans and worms.Avast
Antivirus then recommended that i perform the action : move to chest.I
then performed the action but the access was denied by Avast.Hence I had
to keep deleting the viruses,worms etc.

So i decided to perform the 'local hard drives' scan by Avast Antivirus
and I also scanned the drives in which the viruses were found.The
virus,worm or trojan affects files in my 'Temporary Internet Files'
folder and hence the files keep getting infected the more I use the
internet(according to my observations).

The problem is even though I perform all kinds of scans through Avast
Antivirus Professional 4.8,it does detect the viruses etc,I'am able to
delete them as well,but evertime I start my laptop I receive a dialogue
box from 'Microsoft Windows' saying that 'Windows Explorer is not
working' , 'Windows Explorer is restarting' and then Avast Warning
appears with the following malware:

1)Malware name: Win32:Tiny-II [Trj]
Malware type: Trojan Horse
VPS version: 090716-0

2)Malware name: Win32:Vitro
Malware type: Virus/Worm
VPS version: 090716-0

3)Malware name: Win32:Alureon [CD] [Rkt]
Malware type: Rootkit
VPS version:090716-0

The following are the details of my laptop:

Windows Vista Home Basic
Copyright 2007 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

System:

Processor: Inter® Core™ Duo CPU T2600 @ 2.16Ghz
Memory(RAM): 2.00GB
System type: 32-bit Operating System.

Antivirus:Avast Antivirus Professional 4.8

If anyone could please help me on how do I completely get rid of the
virus/trojan/worm I would greatly appreciate it.
Also,my 'Data Exectution Prevention' settings are set to 'Turn on DEP
for essential Windows programs and services only'.Please please help
me.

Thank you!


--
ric99

 

"ric99" <hammer_richie@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:6f4ad79d9ebc7627cc48041adece9dc5@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Hey friends,I do understand that this is not the category in which I'am
> supposed to post such threads,but since this section/community is very
> active and consists of many professionals I thought of posting it here.I
> posted a thread in the other section meant for virus but unfortunately
> did not receive any kind of help or reply.So if possible I would like
> any of the professionals to help me with my problem.
>
> My problem is as follows:
>
> I downloaded a video through utorrents,when I tried to play it through
> 'Windows Media Player' it was'nt able to play it and a dialogue box
> appeared asking me to download a codec which was necessary to play that
> video.Since the dialogue box appeared through 'Windows Media Player' and
> due to my ignorance,I thought it was authorized and downloaded the
> codec.
>
> After downloading the codec the video still did not play and another
> dialogue box of 'Microsoft Windows' appeared saying : ms32.info not
> working.So i shut down my laptop and turned it on again.It started as
> normal,but after loading all the icons etc my antivirus(Avast Antivirus
> Professional 4.8) detected many viruses,trojans and worms.Avast
> Antivirus then recommended that i perform the action : move to chest.I
> then performed the action but the access was denied by Avast.Hence I had
> to keep deleting the viruses,worms etc.
>
> So i decided to perform the 'local hard drives' scan by Avast Antivirus
> and I also scanned the drives in which the viruses were found.The
> virus,worm or trojan affects files in my 'Temporary Internet Files'
> folder and hence the files keep getting infected the more I use the
> internet(according to my observations).
>
> The problem is even though I perform all kinds of scans through Avast
> Antivirus Professional 4.8,it does detect the viruses etc,I'am able to
> delete them as well,but evertime I start my laptop I receive a dialogue
> box from 'Microsoft Windows' saying that 'Windows Explorer is not
> working' , 'Windows Explorer is restarting' and then Avast Warning
> appears with the following malware:
>
> 1)Malware name: Win32:Tiny-II [Trj]
> Malware type: Trojan Horse
> VPS version: 090716-0
>
> 2)Malware name: Win32:Vitro
> Malware type: Virus/Worm
> VPS version: 090716-0
>
> 3)Malware name: Win32:Alureon [CD] [Rkt]
> Malware type: Rootkit
> VPS version:090716-0
>
> The following are the details of my laptop:
>
> Windows Vista Home Basic
> Copyright 2007 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> System:
>
> Processor: Inter® Core™ Duo CPU T2600 @ 2.16Ghz
> Memory(RAM): 2.00GB
> System type: 32-bit Operating System.
>
> Antivirus:Avast Antivirus Professional 4.8
>
> If anyone could please help me on how do I completely get rid of the
> virus/trojan/worm I would greatly appreciate it.
> Also,my 'Data Exectution Prevention' settings are set to 'Turn on DEP
> for essential Windows programs and services only'.Please please help
> me.
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> --
> ric99<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Try running MalwareBytes:


Download the free version, boot into safe mode and run it from there.
Run it several times until it reports no further infection.

 

"ric99" <hammer_richie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6f4ad79d9ebc7627cc48041adece9dc5@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> I downloaded a video through utorrents,when I tried to play it through
> 'Windows Media Player' it was'nt able to play it and a dialogue box
> appeared asking me to download a codec which was necessary to play that
> video.Since the dialogue box appeared through 'Windows Media Player' and
> due to my ignorance,I thought it was authorized and downloaded the
> codec.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

The classic mistake made by millions. There's no reason one should have to
download a codec to play a p^awrn video. In the less likely event a
specialized codec is necessary, one should look carefully at the source of
the content and of the codec.

Windows is very convenient, compliant and complicit. For the most part it
will do exactly what you tell it to do, whether it is good for you or not.
With UAC some progress is made against malware .. but if you give you're OK,
the malware will run. Once run it can quickly hose your system to the point
where a zero-fill / repartition / reformat / reinstall is the only sure
option.

NOW, regarding the computer's repair. There's malwarebytes.org blah blah and
all that .. but even the virus removal scene is filled with pitfalls and
scams and people demanding money and even more viruses hidden in the
"solutions".

To be honest with you, I think system imaging (which will be available
built-in to all the Basic / Home / Business / and Ultimate versions of
Windows 7) is the better option these days.

Clean install Windows and programs, enter all the Product Keys and activate
everything that demands it. Configure everything, including email. Then make
a whole system backup image to a USB harddrive, or DVD-R.

Then over time, occasionally back up documents, pictures, music and data to
a USB flash drive, USB harddrive, network location or DVD-R etc. etc.

Should a virus hit, then simply run the whole system image back onto the
computer making it like new. Restore the docs etc. back from the USB
harddrive or USB flash drive or network location. So, instead of taking
days .. and expense .. and worry .. and doubt .. .. it all takes about an
hour - and no sweat - to get back up and running.

Saucy

 

"ric99" <hammer_richie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6f4ad79d9ebc7627cc48041adece9dc5@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Hey friends,I do understand that this is not the category in which I'am
> supposed to post such threads,but since this section/community is very
> active and consists of many professionals I thought of posting it here.I
> posted a thread in the other section meant for virus but unfortunately
> did not receive any kind of help or reply.So if possible I would like
> any of the professionals to help me with my problem.
>
> My problem is as follows:
>
> I downloaded a video through utorrents,when I tried to play it through
> 'Windows Media Player' it was'nt able to play it and a dialogue box
> appeared asking me to download a codec which was necessary to play that
> video.Since the dialogue box appeared through 'Windows Media Player' and
> due to my ignorance,I thought it was authorized and downloaded the
> codec.
>
> After downloading the codec the video still did not play and another
> dialogue box of 'Microsoft Windows' appeared saying : ms32.info not
> working.So i shut down my laptop and turned it on again.It started as
> normal,but after loading all the icons etc my antivirus(Avast Antivirus
> Professional 4.8) detected many viruses,trojans and worms.Avast
> Antivirus then recommended that i perform the action : move to chest.I
> then performed the action but the access was denied by Avast.Hence I had
> to keep deleting the viruses,worms etc.
>
> So i decided to perform the 'local hard drives' scan by Avast Antivirus
> and I also scanned the drives in which the viruses were found.The
> virus,worm or trojan affects files in my 'Temporary Internet Files'
> folder and hence the files keep getting infected the more I use the
> internet(according to my observations).
>
> The problem is even though I perform all kinds of scans through Avast
> Antivirus Professional 4.8,it does detect the viruses etc,I'am able to
> delete them as well,but evertime I start my laptop I receive a dialogue
> box from 'Microsoft Windows' saying that 'Windows Explorer is not
> working' , 'Windows Explorer is restarting' and then Avast Warning
> appears with the following malware:
>
> 1)Malware name: Win32:Tiny-II [Trj]
> Malware type: Trojan Horse
> VPS version: 090716-0
>
> 2)Malware name: Win32:Vitro
> Malware type: Virus/Worm
> VPS version: 090716-0
>
> 3)Malware name: Win32:Alureon [CD] [Rkt]
> Malware type: Rootkit
> VPS version:090716-0
>
> The following are the details of my laptop:
>
> Windows Vista Home Basic
> Copyright 2007 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> System:
>
> Processor: Inter® Core™ Duo CPU T2600 @ 2.16Ghz
> Memory(RAM): 2.00GB
> System type: 32-bit Operating System.
>
> Antivirus:Avast Antivirus Professional 4.8
>
> If anyone could please help me on how do I completely get rid of the
> virus/trojan/worm I would greatly appreciate it.
> Also,my 'Data Exectution Prevention' settings are set to 'Turn on DEP
> for essential Windows programs and services only'.Please please help
> me.
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> --
> ric99<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Interesting. There was a long thread earlier with a bunch of Avast fanboys
bashing McAfee as if Avast is the best AV since sliced bread, but you say
Avast didn't stop you from downloading or executing a trojan, only detecting
it after it's too late...
If your AV won't fix it for you, you either need a new AV tool or you need
to completely reinstall stuff.

Have you tried System Restore?

The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to the point
where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps is to keep regular
backups. A typical laptop these days comes with up to 320GB of hard drive.
A spare external 1TB USB hard drive costs under $100. For that you could
make 3 partitions and store up to 3 backups at a time. If you run an AV
check before a backup and it finds something drastic like this you can wipe
your system and restore a backup instead.

 

Eric wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "ric99" <hammer_richie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6f4ad79d9ebc7627cc48041adece9dc5@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Hey friends,I do understand that this is not the category in which I'am
>> supposed to post such threads,but since this section/community is very
>> active and consists of many professionals I thought of posting it here.I
>> posted a thread in the other section meant for virus but unfortunately
>> did not receive any kind of help or reply.So if possible I would like
>> any of the professionals to help me with my problem.
>>
>> My problem is as follows:
>>
>> I downloaded a video through utorrents,when I tried to play it through
>> 'Windows Media Player' it was'nt able to play it and a dialogue box
>> appeared asking me to download a codec which was necessary to play that
>> video.Since the dialogue box appeared through 'Windows Media Player' and
>> due to my ignorance,I thought it was authorized and downloaded the
>> codec.
>>
>> After downloading the codec the video still did not play and another
>> dialogue box of 'Microsoft Windows' appeared saying : ms32.info not
>> working.So i shut down my laptop and turned it on again.It started as
>> normal,but after loading all the icons etc my antivirus(Avast Antivirus
>> Professional 4.8) detected many viruses,trojans and worms.Avast
>> Antivirus then recommended that i perform the action : move to chest.I
>> then performed the action but the access was denied by Avast.Hence I had
>> to keep deleting the viruses,worms etc.
>>
>> So i decided to perform the 'local hard drives' scan by Avast Antivirus
>> and I also scanned the drives in which the viruses were found.The
>> virus,worm or trojan affects files in my 'Temporary Internet Files'
>> folder and hence the files keep getting infected the more I use the
>> internet(according to my observations).
>>
>> The problem is even though I perform all kinds of scans through Avast
>> Antivirus Professional 4.8,it does detect the viruses etc,I'am able to
>> delete them as well,but evertime I start my laptop I receive a dialogue
>> box from 'Microsoft Windows' saying that 'Windows Explorer is not
>> working' , 'Windows Explorer is restarting' and then Avast Warning
>> appears with the following malware:
>>
>> 1)Malware name: Win32:Tiny-II [Trj]
>> Malware type: Trojan Horse
>> VPS version: 090716-0
>>
>> 2)Malware name: Win32:Vitro
>> Malware type: Virus/Worm
>> VPS version: 090716-0
>>
>> 3)Malware name: Win32:Alureon [CD] [Rkt]
>> Malware type: Rootkit
>> VPS version:090716-0
>>
>> The following are the details of my laptop:
>>
>> Windows Vista Home Basic
>> Copyright 2007 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>>
>> System:
>>
>> Processor: Inter® Core™ Duo CPU T2600 @ 2.16Ghz
>> Memory(RAM): 2.00GB
>> System type: 32-bit Operating System.
>>
>> Antivirus:Avast Antivirus Professional 4.8
>>
>> If anyone could please help me on how do I completely get rid of the
>> virus/trojan/worm I would greatly appreciate it.
>> Also,my 'Data Exectution Prevention' settings are set to 'Turn on DEP
>> for essential Windows programs and services only'.Please please help
>> me.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>> --
>> ric99<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Interesting. There was a long thread earlier with a bunch of Avast fanboys
> bashing McAfee as if Avast is the best AV since sliced bread, but you say
> Avast didn't stop you from downloading or executing a trojan, only detecting
> it after it's too late...
> If your AV won't fix it for you, you either need a new AV tool or you need
> to completely reinstall stuff.
>
> Have you tried System Restore?
>
> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to the point
> where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps is to keep regular
> backups. A typical laptop these days comes with up to 320GB of hard drive.
> A spare external 1TB USB hard drive costs under $100. For that you could
> make 3 partitions and store up to 3 backups at a time. If you run an AV
> check before a backup and it finds something drastic like this you can wipe
> your system and restore a backup instead.
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.

Alias

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Eric wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>
>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to the
>> point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps is to keep
>> regular backups. A typical laptop these days comes with up to 320GB of
>> hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB hard drive costs under $100. For
>> that you could make 3 partitions and store up to 3 backups at a time. If
>> you run an AV check before a backup and it finds something drastic like
>> this you can wipe your system and restore a backup instead.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

....or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.
--


Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Go look for a Linux group. This is a Vista group. If they wanted to run
Linux they wouldn't be here. You don't tell someone when their Ford has
issues to fix them by replacing it with a Buick. You're not helpful at all,
and Linux could have virus problems just as well as any MS OS. If no Linux
PC ever gets a virus, it's likely because not enough people are using
viruses so virus writers don't bother with them. It's the same reason MACs
rarely get viruses. They are getting more recently as they've gained some
popularity. If you could convince everyone to switch to Linux (highly
unlikely), you'd be getting far more viruses. If you like Linux, maybe you
should keep your mouth (keyboard) shut.

 

Mike wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Eric wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>>
>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to
>>> the point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps is
>>> to keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days comes with up
>>> to 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB hard drive costs
>>> under $100. For that you could make 3 partitions and store up to 3
>>> backups at a time. If you run an AV check before a backup and it
>>> finds something drastic like this you can wipe your system and
>>> restore a backup instead.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run Linux, you
STILL don't have to worry about this crap.

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Mike wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Eric wrote:
>>>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>>>
>>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to
>>>> the point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps
>>>> is to keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days comes with
>>>> up to 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB hard drive costs
>>>> under $100. For that you could make 3 partitions and store up to 3
>>>> backups at a time. If you run an AV check before a backup and it
>>>> finds something drastic like this you can wipe your system and
>>>> restore a backup instead.
>>>
>>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run Linux, you
> STILL don't have to worry about this crap.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

All you have to worry about is that your Windows based software won't
run on Linux so you are SCREWED. Ubuntu is worth exactly what you pay
for it: NOTHING.

 

Eric wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Go look for a Linux group. This is a Vista group. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

*snip*<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Please don't feed the trolls.

 

Mike wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Please don't feed the trolls, or else, be grouped in with them.

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h3q55r$nac$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Mike wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Eric wrote:
>>>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>>>
>>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to the
>>>> point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps is to
>>>> keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days comes with up to
>>>> 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB hard drive costs under
>>>> $100. For that you could make 3 partitions and store up to 3 backups
>>>> at a time. If you run an AV check before a backup and it finds
>>>> something drastic like this you can wipe your system and restore a
>>>> backup instead.
>>>
>>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run Linux, you
> STILL don't have to worry about this crap.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
killing cats. Every one of them is having kernel problems. Now I will side
with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or malware problems with
Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!
--


Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

 

"milt" <theatreguy_dunspam_@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
news:O34IDPvBKHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Mike wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Please don't feed the trolls, or else, be grouped in with them.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

....and this should bother me, why? You can add yourself to the rest who've
k/f'd me because of my replies to my favorite moron.
--


Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Eric wrote:
>>>>>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to
>>>>>> the point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps
>>>>>> is to keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days comes
>>>>>> with up to 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB hard
>>>>>> drive costs under $100. For that you could make 3 partitions and
>>>>>> store up to 3 backups at a time. If you run an AV check before a
>>>>>> backup and it finds something drastic like this you can wipe your
>>>>>> system and restore a backup instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.
>>>
>>> Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run Linux,
>>> you STILL don't have to worry about this crap.
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> All you have to worry about is that your Windows based software won't
>> run on Linux so you are SCREWED. Ubuntu is worth exactly what you pay
>> for it: NOTHING.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> The only Windows based software that I use on Windows are video games.
> Everything else is free from the web or comes with Windows. Has as been
> stated before, with the exception of video games and malware, ubuntu can
> do *everything* that Windows can do for an average home user. Niche
> programs that cost thousands of dollars are not used by your average
> home or office user.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Oh those Open Sores FREE programs that they throw together. You know
the programs with the very basics in them. They are not good enough to
charge real money for.

Go ahead and play with the FREE INFERIOR programs if it gives you a
HARD-ON.

Real work needs real programs. Microsoft and their partners fill this
need very well.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Got more FUD? I'm sure you do. You left out what you think a geek's sex
> life is like, for example, and your usual animal sex accusations. You're
> slipping in your job as a shill for Microsoft.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Mike wrote:

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
> killing cats. Every one of them is having kernel problems. Now I will
> side
> with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or malware problems with
> Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You have a stupid group of friends.
I'm running Linux now...no kernel problems.
Its running a program.

Pretty damn easy to use.

 

Mike wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> ...and this should bother me, why? You can add yourself to the rest
> who've k/f'd me because of my replies to my favorite moron.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Fair enough, its obvious I wouldn't miss anything by not reading your
replies anyhow.

 

Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> Eric wrote:
>>>>>>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC
>>>>>>> to the point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your
>>>>>>> apps is to keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days
>>>>>>> comes with up to 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB
>>>>>>> hard drive costs under $100. For that you could make 3
>>>>>>> partitions and store up to 3 backups at a time. If you run an AV
>>>>>>> check before a backup and it finds something drastic like this
>>>>>>> you can wipe your system and restore a backup instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run Linux,
>>>> you STILL don't have to worry about this crap.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> All you have to worry about is that your Windows based software won't
>>> run on Linux so you are SCREWED. Ubuntu is worth exactly what you
>>> pay for it: NOTHING.
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> The only Windows based software that I use on Windows are video games.
>> Everything else is free from the web or comes with Windows. Has as
>> been stated before, with the exception of video games and malware,
>> ubuntu can do *everything* that Windows can do for an average home
>> user. Niche programs that cost thousands of dollars are not used by
>> your average home or office user.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Oh those Open Sores FREE programs that they throw together. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yeah, like the Mozilla program you used to post this.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> You know
> the programs with the very basics in them. They are not good enough to
> charge real money for.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You really don't have a clue, do you?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Go ahead and play with the FREE INFERIOR programs if it gives you a
> HARD-ON.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Um, I don't know about you but no program gives me a hard on.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Real work needs real programs. Microsoft and their partners fill this
> need very well.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yeah, and they are very good at getting infected so that you can't use
the computer at all! Ubuntu doesn't have this problem and the programs
that come with Ubuntu do the job very well.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Got more FUD? I'm sure you do. You left out what you think a geek's
>> sex life is like, for example, and your usual animal sex accusations.
>> You're slipping in your job as a shill for Microsoft.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Well?

Alias

 

Mike wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h3q55r$nac$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Mike wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Eric wrote:
>>>>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>>>>
>>>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to
>>>>> the point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps
>>>>> is to keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days comes with
>>>>> up to 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB hard drive
>>>>> costs under $100. For that you could make 3 partitions and store
>>>>> up to 3 backups at a time. If you run an AV check before a backup
>>>>> and it finds something drastic like this you can wipe your system
>>>>> and restore a backup instead.
>>>>
>>>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run Linux,
>> you STILL don't have to worry about this crap.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
> killing cats.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Your hobby is killing cats?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Every one of them is having kernel problems.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Weird, I haven't ever had a problem with the kernel.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Now I will
> side with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or malware problems
> with Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I'm running a few programs right now, liar.

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> Eric wrote:
>>>>>>>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC
>>>>>>>> to the point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your
>>>>>>>> apps is to keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days
>>>>>>>> comes with up to 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB
>>>>>>>> hard drive costs under $100. For that you could make 3
>>>>>>>> partitions and store up to 3 backups at a time. If you run an
>>>>>>>> AV check before a backup and it finds something drastic like
>>>>>>>> this you can wipe your system and restore a backup instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix
>>>>>> ng.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run
>>>>> Linux, you STILL don't have to worry about this crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> All you have to worry about is that your Windows based software
>>>> won't run on Linux so you are SCREWED. Ubuntu is worth exactly what
>>>> you pay for it: NOTHING.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The only Windows based software that I use on Windows are video
>>> games. Everything else is free from the web or comes with Windows.
>>> Has as been stated before, with the exception of video games and
>>> malware, ubuntu can do *everything* that Windows can do for an
>>> average home user. Niche programs that cost thousands of dollars are
>>> not used by your average home or office user.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Oh those Open Sores FREE programs that they throw together. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Yeah, like the Mozilla program you used to post this.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

OK so they have one or two Open Source programs that are cool.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> You know the programs with the very basics in them. They are not good
>> enough to charge real money for.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You really don't have a clue, do you?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Fill me in.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Go ahead and play with the FREE INFERIOR programs if it gives you a
>> HARD-ON.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Um, I don't know about you but no program gives me a hard on.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Could have fooled quite a few people here. You just love your "Noble
Mission" which is misguided and flawed.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Real work needs real programs. Microsoft and their partners fill this
>> need very well.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Yeah, and they are very good at getting infected so that you can't use
> the computer at all! Ubuntu doesn't have this problem and the programs
> that come with Ubuntu do the job very well.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Nobody uses Ubuntu so they don't write viruses for it. Wait until they
get to 2,000 users. I'd say around 2021 that might happen.

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Mike wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:h3q55r$nac$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:h3q19i$ppa$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Eric wrote:
>>>>>> Have you tried System Restore?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The simplest way to prevent all viruses from messing up your PC to
>>>>>> the point where you have to reinstall an OS and redo all your apps
>>>>>> is to keep regular backups. A typical laptop these days comes
>>>>>> with up to 320GB of hard drive. A spare external 1TB USB hard
>>>>>> drive costs under $100. For that you could make 3 partitions and
>>>>>> store up to 3 backups at a time. If you run an AV check before a
>>>>>> backup and it finds something drastic like this you can wipe your
>>>>>> system and restore a backup instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or you can run Linux and not worry about this crap.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> ...or *you* can eat crap and march your sad ass back to your lunix ng.
>>>
>>> Hmmm, seems I pushed one of Mike's little buttons. If you run Linux,
>>> you STILL don't have to worry about this crap.
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I have a group of friends who play with Loonix, as a hobby, kinda like
>> killing cats.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Your hobby is killing cats?
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Every one of them is having kernel problems.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Weird, I haven't ever had a problem with the kernel.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yea because you don't do anything with your system other than write posts.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Now I will side with you on one thing. You'll never have virus or
>> malware problems with Loonix, because IT DOESN'T RUN ANY PROGRAMS!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I'm running a few programs right now, liar.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->