Only Ten More Days to Go!

and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
and it's free and comes with access to thousands
of free programs!

What you can do with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music using the computer.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations from one language to another.
Use a dictionary program that's much faster than using a book
Learn how to touch type with a touch type learning program.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:

1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and
anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
being compromised.

2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your
password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.

Alias

 

who? wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbhnra$msa$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
>> and it's free and comes with access to thousands of
>> free programs!
>>
>> What you can do with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Email
>> Surf the web
>> Burn CDs.
>> Rip CDs.
>> Listen to music using the computer.
>> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
>> Scan and print.
>> Spreadsheets.
>> Presentations
>> Newsgroups.
>> HTML editing.
>> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
>> Make videos.
>> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
>> Translations from one language to another.
>> Use a dictionary program that's much faster than using a book
>> Learn how to touch type with a touch type learning program.
>> Edit images.
>> Send and receive a fax.
>> Take screenshots.
>> Create .PDF files.
>> Create and use a data base.
>> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
>> Windows Live Messenger.
>> IRC.
>> Bluetooth.
>>
>> and much more!
>>
>> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>>
>> Worry about:
>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>> DRM,
>> Viruses,
>> Root kits,
>> Spyware,
>> and
>> Malware.
>>
>> The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:
>>
>> 1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
>> from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
>> or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and
>> anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
>> ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
>> the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
>> Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
>> constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
>> being compromised.
>>
>> 2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your
>> password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
>> is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
>> not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
>> and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You make some good points, but when I have tried to use Linux I have always
> come across an insurmountable problem, whereupon I give up and go back to
> Windows. I tried years ago to have sound with Red Hat. I could never fix it.
> I know that is old news and probably Red Hat is much improved. The other day
> I tried to connect Knoppix live Cd to the internet for the umpteeumpth time.
> I never could do it.
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Try Ubuntu when the new version comes out and I think your experience
will different. Linux has come a long way in the last few years.

Alias

 

INLINE:


"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbhnra$msa$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> and you can download the new Ubuntu, Karmic Koala, Ubuntu 9.10 from
> and it's free and comes with access to thousands of
> free programs!
>
> What you can do with Ubuntu:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Not much.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Email<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


MS-DOS can email.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Surf the web<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


MS-DOS can surf the web.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Burn CDs.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


With junk quality burning software.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Rip CDs.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Mostly rip-off copyrighted CDs is more like it.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Listen to music using the computer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Windows 95 can do that, Windows 3.1 for that matter.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Watch vidoes/DVDs.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Ha! *Maybe* watch a movie.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Scan and print.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


If the printer drivers are compiled into the kernel. Even then you probably
will have to give up some of the printers features and functionality.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Spreadsheets.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


In second rate spreadsheet programs.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Presentations<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


In second rate presentation programs.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Newsgroups.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


From the quality of your posts this is a dubious boast on your part.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> HTML editing.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Notepad can do that.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Cheesy flat games that smack of the Windows 3.1 days. Let's face it, if you
want to game, get Windows or an XBox.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Make videos.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Sure sure .. again with second rate stuff .. good luck.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Download photos from a camera and organize them.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Again, good luck. 'Hope the camera drivers are there.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Translations from one language to another.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Just visit Google dot com for that. A computer running Windows 95 can
achieve the same.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Use a dictionary program that's much faster than using a book<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


See immediately above.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Learn how to touch type with a touch type learning program.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


You're kidding, right?

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Edit images.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Let me guess, Gimp? It's almost pathetic how outdated it is. However Gimp
the one and only image editing software generally available to the Linux
crowd.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Send and receive a fax.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Windows 95 can do that.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Take screenshots.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


You mean Linux implements the Prt Scr key? So did Windows 95.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Create .PDF files.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Up-to-date .PDF files?? Maybe.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Create and use a data base.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


MySQL anyone? Sorry, but Microsoft database software is superior.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
> Windows Live Messenger.
> IRC.
> Bluetooth.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Linux only implements messaging so you can first ask each other how to get
things to work with Linux and then cry on each others shoulders when you
find you can't.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> and much more!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Yes, typical distros of Linux come with thousands of half-baked alpha-ware
quality junk that passes as "software".

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
>
> Worry about:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Bull. There's lots to worry about with UNIX and UNIX clones such as Linux.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Not likely if you don't steal your software.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> DRM,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


or steal your music. Even then it is easily circumvented by not using DRM'd
music.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Viruses,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Don't be so sure.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Root kits,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


UNIX and UNIX clones such as Linux are the origin of the term "rooted" LOL

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Spyware,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


No?

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> and
> Malware.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Sure sure. Linux is riddled with vulnerabilities. The errata List for RedHat
Linux (a premier distro) is as long as my arm and then some.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> The reasons that Ubuntu is more secure than Windows are twofold:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


The only security in Linux is its obscurity.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> 1. When *anything* in Ubuntu needs updating or patching, it all comes
> from the same source and a little orange star appears when any updates
> or patches are available. It's a known fact that anti virus apps and<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Linux distros will often have lousy patch systems. Ubuntu's is probably not
all that great seeing as they've never come up with a good one for any UNIX
or UNIX clone such as Linux.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> anti malware apps can only deal with nasties that are known, not the new
> ones. Hence, it is very important to be updated or patched and not just
> the operating system but everything that is installed on the computer.
> Windows has no central updating source and the user has to be checking
> constantly for updates to their programs or face the possibility of
> being compromised.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


With ten zillion different distros out there and countless Linux libraries,
there's no "central updating source" in Linux. Whereas Microsoft does have a
centralized updating system for its software.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> 2. In Ubuntu, when anything wants to install, you have to key in your<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Bull.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> password. With Windows, you have to click on "OK" or nothing at all as
> is evidenced by drive by malware. Unlike Windows, the Linux kernel is
> not intertwined with a browser like Windows is with Internet Explorer
> and the kernel is kept away and protected from the user account.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Bull, because it is Windows 7 that has the modern security system, not
Linux. With Windows 7's version of UAC, many if not all privileges problems
are completely solved. With Linux's ancient system, it's the old problematic
"either / or" security system .. where one is either root or user.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Please don't cry because Windows 7 is better (as in way better). OK Alias?
Get yourself a kleenex tissue.


Saucy

 

Saucy wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> Not likely if you don't steal your software.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

The people who want to steal Windows use cracked versions and are
careful not to let Auto Update download and install WGA. MOST people buy
their Windows with a computer so this anti piracy thing is a sham and
it's only done to confuse paying customers to pay again and for
Microsoft to have more control over the user. The ONLY people
inconvenienced by WGA are paying customers who get a false positive.The
crackers and thieves just laugh.

Hell, 7 is already cracked and ready for those who want it free:



Alias

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:hbo6u7$uei$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Saucy wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>
>> Not likely if you don't steal your software.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> The people who want to steal Windows use cracked versions and are careful
> not to let Auto Update download and install WGA. MOST people buy their
> Windows with a computer so this anti piracy thing is a sham and it's only
> done to confuse paying customers to pay again and for Microsoft to have
> more control over the user. The ONLY people inconvenienced by WGA are
> paying customers who get a false positive.The crackers and thieves just
> laugh.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Or, Idiots whom earn $14,000/week... yet get a friend in the USA to send
them Win7 at a discount.
You are so full of crap, your OS is brown.

 

PencilState wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hbo6u7$uei$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Saucy wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>
>>>
>>> Not likely if you don't steal your software.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> The people who want to steal Windows use cracked versions and are
>> careful not to let Auto Update download and install WGA. MOST people
>> buy their Windows with a computer so this anti piracy thing is a sham
>> and it's only done to confuse paying customers to pay again and for
>> Microsoft to have more control over the user. The ONLY people
>> inconvenienced by WGA are paying customers who get a false
>> positive.The crackers and thieves just laugh.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Or, Idiots whom earn $14,000/week... yet get a friend in the USA to send
> them Win7 at a discount.
> You are so full of crap, your OS is brown.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

hehehe...that's funny!...and proly true!

 

"Frank" <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in message news:4adfa4e8$1@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> PencilState wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hbo6u7$uei$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not likely if you don't steal your software.
>>>
>>> The people who want to steal Windows use cracked versions and are
>>> careful not to let Auto Update download and install WGA. MOST people buy
>>> their Windows with a computer so this anti piracy thing is a sham and
>>> it's only done to confuse paying customers to pay again and for
>>> Microsoft to have more control over the user. The ONLY people
>>> inconvenienced by WGA are paying customers who get a false positive.The
>>> crackers and thieves just laugh.
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Or, Idiots whom earn $14,000/week... yet get a friend in the USA to send
>> them Win7 at a discount.
>> You are so full of crap, your OS is brown.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> hehehe...that's funny!...and proly true!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I only earn $14,000/week if I get overtime.

Alias