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Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by JamesJ, Jun 29, 2009.

  1. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    I keep changing a Notification Area Icon to 'Show' but it keeps getting
    changed to 'Hide when inactive'.
    I do have the 'Hide inactive icons' checked. So what good does it do to be
    able to change the icon setting to 'Show' in 'Customize' if it keeps
    changing back?
    Any way to keep this icon showing without unchecking 'Hide inactive
    icons'???

    James
     
  2. It may well be in the program itself that places the icon in the
    notification area. If that's the case you likely can't change the behavior.

    --

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    news:OLmLpZN%23JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I keep changing a Notification Area Icon to 'Show' but it keeps getting
    > changed to 'Hide when inactive'.
    > I do have the 'Hide inactive icons' checked. So what good does it do to be
    > able to change the icon setting to 'Show' in 'Customize' if it keeps
    > changing back?
    > Any way to keep this icon showing without unchecking 'Hide inactive
    > icons'???
    >
    > James
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    Yes, I would assume it is the program itself that places it's icon in the
    notification area.
    There's no setting in the progrm anywhere where one can set to display the
    icon or not.

    James

    "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:Os2vh2N%23JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > It may well be in the program itself that places the icon in the
    > notification area. If that's the case you likely can't change the
    > behavior.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Richard Urban
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Desktop Experience
    >
    >
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    > news:OLmLpZN%23JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>I keep changing a Notification Area Icon to 'Show' but it keeps getting
    >> changed to 'Hide when inactive'.
    >> I do have the 'Hide inactive icons' checked. So what good does it do to
    >> be
    >> able to change the icon setting to 'Show' in 'Customize' if it keeps
    >> changing back?
    >> Any way to keep this icon showing without unchecking 'Hide inactive
    >> icons'???
    >>
    >> James
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. Is it a program/service that is really needed? Many of them are not. The
    programmer just places an icon there to feel important.

    A good example is Frostwire. Why would you want the program running
    continuously - even when you are not using it. But you can turn this
    behavior off in the program options. Then the program only runs while in
    active use.

    Many other programs are the same. But, many can not be turned off in the
    programs options. For those I use autoruns from Microsoft System internals.
    You can disable "any" startup program. I always turn off one in particular
    from Adobe Reader. There is no reason for it to start with the operating
    system (even though it does not place an icon in the notification tray).

    You can get the FREE autoruns here:


    --

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    news:u7ZvpBO%23JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Yes, I would assume it is the program itself that places it's icon in the
    > notification area.
    > There's no setting in the progrm anywhere where one can set to display the
    > icon or not.
    >
    > James
    >
    > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:Os2vh2N%23JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> It may well be in the program itself that places the icon in the
    >> notification area. If that's the case you likely can't change the
    >> behavior.
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Richard Urban
    >> Microsoft MVP
    >> Windows Desktop Experience
    >>
    >>
    >> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    >> news:OLmLpZN%23JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>I keep changing a Notification Area Icon to 'Show' but it keeps getting
    >>> changed to 'Hide when inactive'.
    >>> I do have the 'Hide inactive icons' checked. So what good does it do to
    >>> be
    >>> able to change the icon setting to 'Show' in 'Customize' if it keeps
    >>> changing back?
    >>> Any way to keep this icon showing without unchecking 'Hide inactive
    >>> icons'???
    >>>
    >>> James
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    No. I'm real particular about services and what's not needed. This the icon
    for my
    anti-virus software.
    It's odd. For the last week after purchasing an external hard drive I can't
    get the
    'Safely remove hardware' icon to go away (Not just hide it). Now an icon I
    want showing
    keeps getting set to 'Hide'.
    I hope Windows 7 has a few enhancements.

    James

    "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:OnvMsJO%23JHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Is it a program/service that is really needed? Many of them are not. The
    > programmer just places an icon there to feel important.
    >
    > A good example is Frostwire. Why would you want the program running
    > continuously - even when you are not using it. But you can turn this
    > behavior off in the program options. Then the program only runs while in
    > active use.
    >
    > Many other programs are the same. But, many can not be turned off in the
    > programs options. For those I use autoruns from Microsoft System
    > internals. You can disable "any" startup program. I always turn off one in
    > particular from Adobe Reader. There is no reason for it to start with the
    > operating system (even though it does not place an icon in the
    > notification tray).
    >
    > You can get the FREE autoruns here:
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Richard Urban
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Desktop Experience
    >
    >
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    > news:u7ZvpBO%23JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Yes, I would assume it is the program itself that places it's icon in the
    >> notification area.
    >> There's no setting in the progrm anywhere where one can set to display
    >> the icon or not.
    >>
    >> James
    >>
    >> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:Os2vh2N%23JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> It may well be in the program itself that places the icon in the
    >>> notification area. If that's the case you likely can't change the
    >>> behavior.
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Richard Urban
    >>> Microsoft MVP
    >>> Windows Desktop Experience
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:OLmLpZN%23JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>>I keep changing a Notification Area Icon to 'Show' but it keeps getting
    >>>> changed to 'Hide when inactive'.
    >>>> I do have the 'Hide inactive icons' checked. So what good does it do to
    >>>> be
    >>>> able to change the icon setting to 'Show' in 'Customize' if it keeps
    >>>> changing back?
    >>>> Any way to keep this icon showing without unchecking 'Hide inactive
    >>>> icons'???
    >>>>
    >>>> James
    >>>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  6. mazorj

    mazorj Guest

    "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    news:eo981nO%23JHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > No. I'm real particular about services and what's not needed. This
    > the icon for my anti-virus software.
    > It's odd. For the last week after purchasing an external hard drive
    > I can't get the
    > 'Safely remove hardware' icon to go away (Not just hide it). Now an
    > icon I want showing keeps getting set to 'Hide'.
    > I hope Windows 7 has a few enhancements.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Vista only allows you to set certain notification icons to "always or
    never display" like the time and the speaker volume. For everything
    else it seems to pull the most recently or frequently used icons into
    the always-visible portion of the notification strip. Everything else
    is hidden until you click on the < slide-out icon. If you've clicked
    several times on the security program's icon during your current
    session it might shift into the always-visible strip. Not the ideal
    solution but it can work and be useful if you don't reboot or change
    users, or displace it by clicking more frequently on other icons
    there.

    Many programs offer the option of whether to add tray icons, create a
    desktop link, etc. during the installation routine. That doesn't
    always prevent unwanted icons, but do pay attention to those as you do
    the install. Some allow these to be reconfigured in the program's
    settings. Other posters have offered insights into making changest in
    Start-up, etc.

    Having said that, now my own gripe: A nearly useless notification
    that found its way onto my two HP Vista machines is a 3-icon cluster
    showing the status for NumLock/CapsLock/ScrollLock. My guess is that
    it's not Vista's fault, it's a replacement for the 3 keyboard LEDs
    that lit up when any of the 3 was activated. [There are no LEDs on my
    HP OEM keyboards.] If clicking on the icons turned the settings
    on/off it would be useful and I could *almost* forgive manufacturers
    for cheapskating on the LEDs. But all they did was save a buck or two
    and give us this dumb static screen display that I can't see at a
    glance [it's hidden in the slide-out] and can't delete. Fortunately I
    found a way to have the CapsLock key make a loud up-boop and down-boop
    whenever it's turned on/off. The audible alert is more useful than
    the LEDs and icons combined. Some idiot decided that the CapsLock key
    should be moved and doubled in size. Because I constantly hit
    CapsLock accidentally when doing fast typing, I was retyping entire
    sentences before I got the audible alarm functioning.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
    > message news:OnvMsJO%23JHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Is it a program/service that is really needed? Many of them are
    >> not. The programmer just places an icon there to feel important.
    >>
    >> A good example is Frostwire. Why would you want the program running
    >> continuously - even when you are not using it. But you can turn
    >> this behavior off in the program options. Then the program only
    >> runs while in active use.
    >>
    >> Many other programs are the same. But, many can not be turned off
    >> in the programs options. For those I use autoruns from Microsoft
    >> System internals. You can disable "any" startup program. I always
    >> turn off one in particular from Adobe Reader. There is no reason
    >> for it to start with the operating system (even though it does not
    >> place an icon in the notification tray).
    >>
    >> You can get the FREE autoruns here:
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Richard Urban
    >> Microsoft MVP
    >> Windows Desktop Experience
    >>
    >>
    >> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    >> news:u7ZvpBO%23JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Yes, I would assume it is the program itself that places it's icon
    >>> in the notification area.
    >>> There's no setting in the progrm anywhere where one can set to
    >>> display the icon or not.
    >>>
    >>> James
    >>>
    >>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in
    >>> message news:Os2vh2N%23JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>> It may well be in the program itself that places the icon in the
    >>>> notification area. If that's the case you likely can't change the
    >>>> behavior.
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>>
    >>>> Richard Urban
    >>>> Microsoft MVP
    >>>> Windows Desktop Experience
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:OLmLpZN%23JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>I keep changing a Notification Area Icon to 'Show' but it keeps
    >>>>>getting
    >>>>> changed to 'Hide when inactive'.
    >>>>> I do have the 'Hide inactive icons' checked. So what good does
    >>>>> it do to be
    >>>>> able to change the icon setting to 'Show' in 'Customize' if it
    >>>>> keeps changing back?
    >>>>> Any way to keep this icon showing without unchecking 'Hide
    >>>>> inactive
    >>>>> icons'???
    >>>>>
    >>>>> James
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  7. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    Thanks for the info.

    James

    "mazorj" <mazorj@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:OMIG8BQ%23JHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    > news:eo981nO%23JHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> No. I'm real particular about services and what's not needed. This the
    >> icon for my anti-virus software.
    >> It's odd. For the last week after purchasing an external hard drive I
    >> can't get the
    >> 'Safely remove hardware' icon to go away (Not just hide it). Now an icon
    >> I want showing keeps getting set to 'Hide'.
    >> I hope Windows 7 has a few enhancements.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Vista only allows you to set certain notification icons to "always or
    > never display" like the time and the speaker volume. For everything else
    > it seems to pull the most recently or frequently used icons into the
    > always-visible portion of the notification strip. Everything else is
    > hidden until you click on the < slide-out icon. If you've clicked several
    > times on the security program's icon during your current session it might
    > shift into the always-visible strip. Not the ideal solution but it can
    > work and be useful if you don't reboot or change users, or displace it by
    > clicking more frequently on other icons there.
    >
    > Many programs offer the option of whether to add tray icons, create a
    > desktop link, etc. during the installation routine. That doesn't always
    > prevent unwanted icons, but do pay attention to those as you do the
    > install. Some allow these to be reconfigured in the program's settings.
    > Other posters have offered insights into making changest in Start-up, etc.
    >
    > Having said that, now my own gripe: A nearly useless notification that
    > found its way onto my two HP Vista machines is a 3-icon cluster showing
    > the status for NumLock/CapsLock/ScrollLock. My guess is that it's not
    > Vista's fault, it's a replacement for the 3 keyboard LEDs that lit up when
    > any of the 3 was activated. [There are no LEDs on my HP OEM keyboards.]
    > If clicking on the icons turned the settings on/off it would be useful and
    > I could *almost* forgive manufacturers for cheapskating on the LEDs. But
    > all they did was save a buck or two and give us this dumb static screen
    > display that I can't see at a glance [it's hidden in the slide-out] and
    > can't delete. Fortunately I found a way to have the CapsLock key make a
    > loud up-boop and down-boop whenever it's turned on/off. The audible alert
    > is more useful than the LEDs and icons combined. Some idiot decided that
    > the CapsLock key should be moved and doubled in size. Because I
    > constantly hit CapsLock accidentally when doing fast typing, I was
    > retyping entire sentences before I got the audible alarm functioning.
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:OnvMsJO%23JHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Is it a program/service that is really needed? Many of them are not. The
    >>> programmer just places an icon there to feel important.
    >>>
    >>> A good example is Frostwire. Why would you want the program running
    >>> continuously - even when you are not using it. But you can turn this
    >>> behavior off in the program options. Then the program only runs while in
    >>> active use.
    >>>
    >>> Many other programs are the same. But, many can not be turned off in the
    >>> programs options. For those I use autoruns from Microsoft System
    >>> internals. You can disable "any" startup program. I always turn off one
    >>> in particular from Adobe Reader. There is no reason for it to start with
    >>> the operating system (even though it does not place an icon in the
    >>> notification tray).
    >>>
    >>> You can get the FREE autoruns here:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Richard Urban
    >>> Microsoft MVP
    >>> Windows Desktop Experience
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:u7ZvpBO%23JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Yes, I would assume it is the program itself that places it's icon in
    >>>> the notification area.
    >>>> There's no setting in the progrm anywhere where one can set to display
    >>>> the icon or not.
    >>>>
    >>>> James
    >>>>
    >>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:Os2vh2N%23JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> It may well be in the program itself that places the icon in the
    >>>>> notification area. If that's the case you likely can't change the
    >>>>> behavior.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Richard Urban
    >>>>> Microsoft MVP
    >>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:OLmLpZN%23JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>I keep changing a Notification Area Icon to 'Show' but it keeps
    >>>>>>getting
    >>>>>> changed to 'Hide when inactive'.
    >>>>>> I do have the 'Hide inactive icons' checked. So what good does it do
    >>>>>> to be
    >>>>>> able to change the icon setting to 'Show' in 'Customize' if it keeps
    >>>>>> changing back?
    >>>>>> Any way to keep this icon showing without unchecking 'Hide inactive
    >>>>>> icons'???
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> James
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  8. R. C. White

    R. C. White Guest

    Hi, James.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > after purchasing an external hard drive I can't get the
    > 'Safely remove hardware' icon to go away (Not just hide it).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You can stop that icon from bugging you pretty easily. Run Disk Management
    (diskmgmt.msc). Right-click on that Disk in the left-most column of the
    Graphical View. Choose Properties, and on the Policies tab, make sure to
    choose to Optimize for Quick Removal, rather than for Best Performance.
    Note that Quick Removal is the default, but your external HDD installer
    might have changed it.

    Then, any Writes to that external hard drive will be written to the disk
    immediately, rather than transferred first to a cache and written to the HD
    later. Thus, you can just "pull the plug" at almost any time without danger
    of losing data in the cache that has not yet been written to the HD.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@grandecom.net
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100

    "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    news:eo981nO#JHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > No. I'm real particular about services and what's not needed. This the
    > icon for my
    > anti-virus software.
    > It's odd. For the last week after purchasing an external hard drive I
    > can't get the
    > 'Safely remove hardware' icon to go away (Not just hide it). Now an icon I
    > want showing
    > keeps getting set to 'Hide'.
    > I hope Windows 7 has a few enhancements.
    >
    > James <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  9. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    Thta's been set like that since I installed the drive. I just want the icon
    to go away.

    James

    "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
    news:O4uO55Y%23JHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hi, James.
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> after purchasing an external hard drive I can't get the
    >> 'Safely remove hardware' icon to go away (Not just hide it).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You can stop that icon from bugging you pretty easily. Run Disk
    > Management (diskmgmt.msc). Right-click on that Disk in the left-most
    > column of the Graphical View. Choose Properties, and on the Policies tab,
    > make sure to choose to Optimize for Quick Removal, rather than for Best
    > Performance. Note that Quick Removal is the default, but your external HDD
    > installer might have changed it.
    >
    > Then, any Writes to that external hard drive will be written to the disk
    > immediately, rather than transferred first to a cache and written to the
    > HD later. Thus, you can just "pull the plug" at almost any time without
    > danger of losing data in the cache that has not yet been written to the
    > HD.
    >
    > RC
    > --
    > R. C. White, CPA
    > San Marcos, TX
    > rc@grandecom.net
    > Microsoft Windows MVP
    > Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8064.0206) in Win7 Ultimate x64 RC 7100
    >
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    > news:eo981nO#JHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> No. I'm real particular about services and what's not needed. This the
    >> icon for my
    >> anti-virus software.
    >> It's odd. For the last week after purchasing an external hard drive I
    >> can't get the
    >> 'Safely remove hardware' icon to go away (Not just hide it). Now an icon
    >> I want showing
    >> keeps getting set to 'Hide'.
    >> I hope Windows 7 has a few enhancements.
    >>
    >> James<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  10. Chuck Tanner

    Chuck Tanner Guest

    Try using "TweakNow Win Secret 2009". It has several settings that can help
    you clean up Vista.
    Chuck

    "mazorj" <mazorj@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:OMIG8BQ%23JHA.3480@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    > news:eo981nO%23JHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> No. I'm real particular about services and what's not needed. This the
    >> icon for my anti-virus software.
    >> It's odd. For the last week after purchasing an external hard drive I
    >> can't get the
    >> 'Safely remove hardware' icon to go away (Not just hide it). Now an icon
    >> I want showing keeps getting set to 'Hide'.
    >> I hope Windows 7 has a few enhancements.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Vista only allows you to set certain notification icons to "always or
    > never display" like the time and the speaker volume. For everything else
    > it seems to pull the most recently or frequently used icons into the
    > always-visible portion of the notification strip. Everything else is
    > hidden until you click on the < slide-out icon. If you've clicked several
    > times on the security program's icon during your current session it might
    > shift into the always-visible strip. Not the ideal solution but it can
    > work and be useful if you don't reboot or change users, or displace it by
    > clicking more frequently on other icons there.
    >
    > Many programs offer the option of whether to add tray icons, create a
    > desktop link, etc. during the installation routine. That doesn't always
    > prevent unwanted icons, but do pay attention to those as you do the
    > install. Some allow these to be reconfigured in the program's settings.
    > Other posters have offered insights into making changest in Start-up, etc.
    >
    > Having said that, now my own gripe: A nearly useless notification that
    > found its way onto my two HP Vista machines is a 3-icon cluster showing
    > the status for NumLock/CapsLock/ScrollLock. My guess is that it's not
    > Vista's fault, it's a replacement for the 3 keyboard LEDs that lit up when
    > any of the 3 was activated. [There are no LEDs on my HP OEM keyboards.]
    > If clicking on the icons turned the settings on/off it would be useful and
    > I could *almost* forgive manufacturers for cheapskating on the LEDs. But
    > all they did was save a buck or two and give us this dumb static screen
    > display that I can't see at a glance [it's hidden in the slide-out] and
    > can't delete. Fortunately I found a way to have the CapsLock key make a
    > loud up-boop and down-boop whenever it's turned on/off. The audible alert
    > is more useful than the LEDs and icons combined. Some idiot decided that
    > the CapsLock key should be moved and doubled in size. Because I
    > constantly hit CapsLock accidentally when doing fast typing, I was
    > retyping entire sentences before I got the audible alarm functioning.
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    >> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:OnvMsJO%23JHA.4900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Is it a program/service that is really needed? Many of them are not. The
    >>> programmer just places an icon there to feel important.
    >>>
    >>> A good example is Frostwire. Why would you want the program running
    >>> continuously - even when you are not using it. But you can turn this
    >>> behavior off in the program options. Then the program only runs while in
    >>> active use.
    >>>
    >>> Many other programs are the same. But, many can not be turned off in the
    >>> programs options. For those I use autoruns from Microsoft System
    >>> internals. You can disable "any" startup program. I always turn off one
    >>> in particular from Adobe Reader. There is no reason for it to start with
    >>> the operating system (even though it does not place an icon in the
    >>> notification tray).
    >>>
    >>> You can get the FREE autoruns here:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Richard Urban
    >>> Microsoft MVP
    >>> Windows Desktop Experience
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:u7ZvpBO%23JHA.1380@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>> Yes, I would assume it is the program itself that places it's icon in
    >>>> the notification area.
    >>>> There's no setting in the progrm anywhere where one can set to display
    >>>> the icon or not.
    >>>>
    >>>> James
    >>>>
    >>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:Os2vh2N%23JHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>>>> It may well be in the program itself that places the icon in the
    >>>>> notification area. If that's the case you likely can't change the
    >>>>> behavior.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Richard Urban
    >>>>> Microsoft MVP
    >>>>> Windows Desktop Experience
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:OLmLpZN%23JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>>>>>I keep changing a Notification Area Icon to 'Show' but it keeps
    >>>>>>getting
    >>>>>> changed to 'Hide when inactive'.
    >>>>>> I do have the 'Hide inactive icons' checked. So what good does it do
    >>>>>> to be
    >>>>>> able to change the icon setting to 'Show' in 'Customize' if it keeps
    >>>>>> changing back?
    >>>>>> Any way to keep this icon showing without unchecking 'Hide inactive
    >>>>>> icons'???
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> James
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>
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