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Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by denmarfl, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. denmarfl

    denmarfl Guest

    Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which in
    time I would upgrade to Windows7.

    I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a DVD.
    Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I have
    been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be copied...period...no
    matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    Notebook?
     
    denmarfl, Oct 11, 2009
    #1
  3. PencilState

    PencilState Guest

    "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B8DA0104-EB8B-4EDF-A866-6193A4237B5F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which
    > in
    > time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >
    > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    > DVD.
    > Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    > have
    > been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be copied...period...no
    > matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    > Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    > Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Netbooks?

    Cause they are low-end PO****s.

    Laptops handle Vista very well.

    Get a laptop.

    The Dell XPS line is quite good.
     
    PencilState, Oct 11, 2009
    #2
  4. Mike Hall - MVP

    Mike Hall - MVP Guest

    "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B8DA0104-EB8B-4EDF-A866-6193A4237B5F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which
    > in
    > time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >
    > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    > DVD.
    > Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    > have
    > been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be copied...period...no
    > matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    > Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    > Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    A wireless connection to your local network would work..

    Also, you can go from XP to 7 without having to go through Vista. You just
    can't do an in place upgrade..

    --

    Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
     
    Mike Hall - MVP, Oct 11, 2009
    #3
  5. denmarfl

    denmarfl Guest

    Thanks; so to Clarify, I was correct that if I copy to a Flash drive it won't
    allow me to install the software...correct?

    Not sure how I would insert software's DVD in my Desktop and Install
    software wireless (I have a Wireless Home Network) in the NoteBook....... I
    realize I could purchase a USB DVD Player....but I am hoping to avoid that
    expense.

    "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:B8DA0104-EB8B-4EDF-A866-6193A4237B5F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    > > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which
    > > in
    > > time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    > >
    > > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    > > DVD.
    > > Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    > > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    > > have
    > > been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be copied...period...no
    > > matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    > > Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    > > Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > A wireless connection to your local network would work..
    >
    > Also, you can go from XP to 7 without having to go through Vista. You just
    > can't do an in place upgrade..
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    denmarfl, Oct 11, 2009
    #4
  6. Richard G. Harper

    Richard G. Harper Guest

    You'd have to ask the folks that make them. Probably they can get XP
    cheaper than Vista, even though that means they are limited to the amount of
    memory and hard drive the unit can contain. But then again given the price
    range for netbooks they would likely come with small hard drives and little
    memory no matter what.

    "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B8DA0104-EB8B-4EDF-A866-6193A4237B5F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which
    > in
    > time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >
    > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    > DVD.
    > Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    > have
    > been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be copied...period...no
    > matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    > Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    > Notebook? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Richard G. Harper, Oct 11, 2009
    #5
  7. ray

    ray Guest

    On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:51:01 -0700, denmarfl wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which
    > in time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >
    > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    > DVD. Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    > have been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be
    > copied...period...no matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but
    > it will not run the Install file. Is this true? How would I install
    > Small Business onto the Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I believe you've confused 'notebook' with 'netbook'. What you describe is
    generally referred to as a netbook - it's a lower powered device (often
    no more than a 1.5ghz Intel Atom processor) and limited memory - your 2gb
    is probably maximum. Why no vista? It would choke on it. They are
    available with xp or Linux. If you absolutely need to install something
    which is only available on a DVD, I suggest you invest in an external USB
    DVD drive. Another option would be to install OpenOffice.org - it's a
    free download from the internet. It may or may not do everything you need
    from an office suite. It's quite MS Office compatible, imports/exports MS
    Office files, etc. It does not support MS vbasick.
     
    ray, Oct 11, 2009
    #6
  8. ray

    ray Guest

    On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:51:01 -0700, denmarfl wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which
    > in time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >
    > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    > DVD. Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    > have been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be
    > copied...period...no matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but
    > it will not run the Install file. Is this true? How would I install
    > Small Business onto the Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I believe you've confused 'notebook' with 'netbook'. What you describe is
    generally referred to as a netbook - it's a lower powered device (often
    no more than a 1.5ghz Intel Atom processor) and limited memory - your 2gb
    is probably maximum. Why no vista? It would choke on it. They are
    available with xp or Linux. If you absolutely need to install something
    which is only available on a DVD, I suggest you invest in an external USB
    DVD drive. Another option would be to install OpenOffice.org - it's a
    free download from the internet. It may or may not do everything you need
    from an office suite. It's quite MS Office compatible, imports/exports MS
    Office files, etc. It does not support MS vbasick.
     
    ray, Oct 11, 2009
    #7
  9. whs

    whs Guest

    denmarfl;1157963 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run
    > which in
    > time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >
    > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    > DVD.
    > Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    > have
    > been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be
    > copied...period...no
    > matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    > Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    > Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I advise you to wait a couple of months with the purchase of a netbook.
    They will come out with a completely new and more powerful technology
    which will make today's netbooks look pretty sad. And then you will also
    get it with Windows7 and all your installation worries are over.
    BTW: It is possible to create an bootable USB version for Vista and
    Win7. Here is how: 'Creating Bootable Vista / Windows 7 USB Flash Drive
    at Kevin’s Blog' ()


    --
    whs
     
    whs, Oct 11, 2009
    #8
  10. Ian D

    Ian D Guest

    "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:B8DA0104-EB8B-4EDF-A866-6193A4237B5F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which
    > in
    > time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >
    > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    > DVD.
    > Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    > have
    > been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be copied...period...no
    > matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    > Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    > Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    HP has a netbook with Vista Business with free upgrade to
    Win 7 professional.
     
    Ian D, Oct 11, 2009
    #9
  11. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "whs" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:5341c24b8fb1dc63b7a759a5b6466aaf@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > denmarfl;1157963 Wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    >> looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run
    >> which in
    >> time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >>
    >> I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    >> DVD.
    >> Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    >> Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    >> have
    >> been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be
    >> copied...period...no
    >> matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    >> Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    >> Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > I advise you to wait a couple of months with the purchase of a netbook.
    > They will come out with a completely new and more powerful technology
    > which will make today's netbooks look pretty sad. And then you will also
    > get it with Windows7 and all your installation worries are over.
    > BTW: It is possible to create an bootable USB version for Vista and
    > Win7. Here is how: 'Creating Bootable Vista / Windows 7 USB Flash Drive
    > at Kevin’s Blog' ()
    >
    >
    > --
    > whs<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    I am highly skeptical about this claim...

    On a recently installed Windows 7 RC, the Windows directory is 24GB and
    without going into any great deal, he claims to have installed it on a 4GB
    USB drive.

    Also, I think Windows resets the USB (bus) prior to taking control. As far
    as I know, there is no mechanism for handing off USB drive from BIOS to OS
    during the boot process in Windows.

    So even if you had only the bare essentials to fit Windows 7 on a 4GB drive,
    Windows would halt during the boot process.
     
    Tae Song, Oct 11, 2009
    #10
  12. Chuck

    Chuck Guest

    Low cost, small size, small battery, video shares RAM, Atom processor, basic
    video chip & system. (forget fancy games)
    The Acer Aspire XP netbook I have can--
    Have memory expanded by 512Meg for 2gig total.
    Have the wireless card changed to be compatable with Apple's OS
    Make a cellphone provider rich by adding a USB or internal cellphone
    adapter.
    (I just tether it to a "rooted" Android phone when all else fails)
    Have the HD expanded from 160G
    Run Linux
    Run a "stripped down" version of Vista, with some problems due to drivers.
    The small display is not really compatable with Vista "eye candy".
    Later versions have a more standard resolution (1024x768) and a slightly
    larger screen

    To the thread originator-- bite the bullet, and spring for an external USB
    DVD-RW, such as the HP dvd556s

    "Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP"
     
    Chuck, Oct 12, 2009
    #11
  13. Gary Mount

    Gary Mount Guest

    If you should be able to copy the files from the DVD disk to a folder that
    you can access from an already running version of windows on your netbook.
    Then run the setup program from there. No need to have a DVD drive on the
    netbook.
    I have installed Windows 7 RC onto my desktop computer without having to use
    my DVD drive. It’s a different matter though if you need to do a boot
    install.

    "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:AC8AC311-416A-4676-8CE8-B00BB176ECA4@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Thanks; so to Clarify, I was correct that if I copy to a Flash drive it
    > won't
    > allow me to install the software...correct?
    >
    > Not sure how I would insert software's DVD in my Desktop and Install
    > software wireless (I have a Wireless Home Network) in the NoteBook.......
    > I
    > realize I could purchase a USB DVD Player....but I am hoping to avoid that
    > expense.
    >
    > "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:B8DA0104-EB8B-4EDF-A866-6193A4237B5F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    >> > looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run
    >> > which
    >> > in
    >> > time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >> >
    >> > I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    >> > DVD.
    >> > Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    >> > Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    >> > have
    >> > been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be
    >> > copied...period...no
    >> > matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    >> > Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto
    >> > the
    >> > Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> A wireless connection to your local network would work..
    >>
    >> Also, you can go from XP to 7 without having to go through Vista. You
    >> just
    >> can't do an in place upgrade..
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
    >>
    >>
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Gary Mount, Oct 12, 2009
    #12
  14. LVTravel

    LVTravel Guest

    "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eH869UrSKHA.352@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > You'd have to ask the folks that make them. Probably they can get XP
    > cheaper than Vista, even though that means they are limited to the amount
    > of memory and hard drive the unit can contain. But then again given the
    > price range for netbooks they would likely come with small hard drives and
    > little memory no matter what.
    >
    > "denmarfl" <denmarfl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:B8DA0104-EB8B-4EDF-A866-6193A4237B5F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Why is it that these Notebooks only are available with WindowsXP? I am
    >> looking to buy one with 2GB of memory....so Vista would surely run which
    >> in
    >> time I would upgrade to Windows7.
    >>
    >> I purchased Microsoft 2007 Small Business....... which installs with a
    >> DVD.
    >> Notebooks don't come with DVD's. If I copy the DVD to a Flash
    >> Drive.....would Small Business install from the flash drive? Or, as I
    >> have
    >> been told in the past, Microsoft software cannot be copied...period...no
    >> matter what you try to copy it to. It may copy but it will not run the
    >> Install file. Is this true? How would I install Small Business onto the
    >> Notebook?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    XP and Vista 32 bit editions handle exactly the same amount of memory and
    size of hard drives. The reason they are using XP on these underpowered
    pieces of junk is that they are just that, underpowered cheap POS that
    people just seem to want and they don't have the horsepower to run Vista.
    (I will admit that Vista is a POS too!)
     
    LVTravel, Oct 12, 2009
    #13
  15. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:6AD18806-5DA7-4EA3-B906-5C53139F9406@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > I am highly skeptical about this claim...
    >
    > On a recently installed Windows 7 RC, the Windows directory is 24GB and
    > without going into any great deal, he claims to have installed it on a 4GB
    > USB drive.
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Interesting - My Windows folder for & RC is only 9.4 GB.....
     
    Gordon, Oct 12, 2009
    #14
  16. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:#HzQ1s3SKHA.3540@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:6AD18806-5DA7-4EA3-B906-5C53139F9406@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> I am highly skeptical about this claim...
    >>
    >> On a recently installed Windows 7 RC, the Windows directory is 24GB and
    >> without going into any great deal, he claims to have installed it on a
    >> 4GB USB drive.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Interesting - My Windows folder for & RC is only 9.4 GB.....<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Strange...

    I rebooted my computer since the last message to finalize new video driver
    install.

    I checked it again and it's at 12.5GB...

    I checked winsxs diectory (being the largest directory under Windows), and
    it reported 12.5GB...

    I double-checked Windows directory and it reported 12.5GB...

    I re-checked winsxs directory and now it says 5.49GB.


    .....


    So if I check it again a few more times, it will be small enough to fit on a
    4GB flash drive. (JK)


    .....


    After checking the disk usage a few more times, 12.5GB seems to be holding.

    I'm running Window 7 x64 RC and I installed and updated all the drivers and
    did all the Windows Updates except for the language packs.


    I'm betting you're running Window 7 x86.
     
    Tae Song, Oct 12, 2009
    #15

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