Motherboard fried, new motherboard, oh oh disk driver issues, blue screen rebooty time!

So chaps and ladies, my motherboard went and died on me, it was out of
warranty and I now have a new motherboard. I have a dual boot XP and Vista
setup and both of them seem to be barfing quite nicely with the new
motherboard. I´ve solved the XP issue with a repair install, but the Vista
repair process does not appear to have the same procedure available, and
also it will not allow me to perform an "upgrade" over the old
install.....*grumbles*

So, is there anything I can do?

--
Francis

 

Hi Francis,

Nope, nothing else you can do when the hardware change is that drastic.
Vista's installation method differs significantly from XP and previous Win
versions in that it lays down an image rather than overwrite files. The
latter bit is why you can do repair installations of XP and earlier. Because
of this change, the repair installation is no longer available and you'll
have to lay down a new image. If you have sufficient drive space, you should
be able to do this without formatting so that you can recover data from the
old installation, it will be housed in a windows.old file on the root of the
drive.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help -
My thoughts

"Francis Bacon" <francis__bacon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%232I2ZEtyIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> So chaps and ladies, my motherboard went and died on me, it was out of
> warranty and I now have a new motherboard. I have a dual boot XP and Vista
> setup and both of them seem to be barfing quite nicely with the new
> motherboard. I´ve solved the XP issue with a repair install, but the Vista
> repair process does not appear to have the same procedure available, and
> also it will not allow me to perform an "upgrade" over the old
> install.....*grumbles*
>
> So, is there anything I can do?
>
> --
> Francis
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Thankw for the prompt answer Rick. I really wish they had an F8 option that
did something along the lines of "default installation drivers" to get into
Windows with a forced hardware detection default type phase. I remember
loosing many hours with restoring an old Windows 2000 system back years ago
(in an emergency (of course)) that went from a single to a multiprocessor
setup and having to replace various files from the recovery console, but it
did work....

Not too worry, a clean installation is always a good thing, and then I fear
I will have my first contact with the License Activation people Oh
joy.... whinge whinge whinge

--
Francis

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> escribió en el mensaje
news:uumQwNuyIHA.5716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hi Francis,
>
> Nope, nothing else you can do when the hardware change is that drastic.
> Vista's installation method differs significantly from XP and previous Win
> versions in that it lays down an image rather than overwrite files. The
> latter bit is why you can do repair installations of XP and earlier.
> Because of this change, the repair installation is no longer available and
> you'll have to lay down a new image. If you have sufficient drive space,
> you should be able to do this without formatting so that you can recover
> data from the old installation, it will be housed in a windows.old file on
> the root of the drive.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>
> Windows help -
> My thoughts
>
> "Francis Bacon" <francis__bacon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%232I2ZEtyIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> So chaps and ladies, my motherboard went and died on me, it was out of
>> warranty and I now have a new motherboard. I have a dual boot XP and
>> Vista setup and both of them seem to be barfing quite nicely with the new
>> motherboard. I´ve solved the XP issue with a repair install, but the
>> Vista repair process does not appear to have the same procedure
>> available, and also it will not allow me to perform an "upgrade" over the
>> old install.....*grumbles*
>>
>> So, is there anything I can do?
>>
>> --
>> Francis
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Vista's "repair install" is called an upgrade-in-place. However, it only
works if the desktop at least loads. It is done by launching Setup from the
desktop, choosing Install Now, and doing an upgrade. If the desktop does
not load then you will need to reinstall.

To protect your Vista VSS files from deletion by booting into XP follow this
KB.


"Francis Bacon" <francis__bacon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%232I2ZEtyIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> So chaps and ladies, my motherboard went and died on me, it was out of
> warranty and I now have a new motherboard. I have a dual boot XP and Vista
> setup and both of them seem to be barfing quite nicely with the new
> motherboard. I´ve solved the XP issue with a repair install, but the Vista
> repair process does not appear to have the same procedure available, and
> also it will not allow me to perform an "upgrade" over the old
> install.....*grumbles*
>
> So, is there anything I can do?
>
> --
> Francis
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:03:02 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
<c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Vista's "repair install" is called an upgrade-in-place. However, it only
>works if the desktop at least loads. It is done by launching Setup from the
>desktop, choosing Install Now, and doing an upgrade. If the desktop does
>not load then you will need to reinstall.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

So all of the best backup strategies in the world will probably be
useless if a mobo needs to be replaced and the same one can't be
found.

THAT sucks.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>To protect your Vista VSS files from deletion by booting into XP follow this
>KB.
>
>
>"Francis Bacon" <francis__bacon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:%232I2ZEtyIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> So chaps and ladies, my motherboard went and died on me, it was out of
>> warranty and I now have a new motherboard. I have a dual boot XP and Vista
>> setup and both of them seem to be barfing quite nicely with the new
>> motherboard. I´ve solved the XP issue with a repair install, but the Vista
>> repair process does not appear to have the same procedure available, and
>> also it will not allow me to perform an "upgrade" over the old
>> install.....*grumbles*
>>
>> So, is there anything I can do?
>>
>> --
>> Francis
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Nonny" <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:etat44tcv7i5l45unnol83smk30ouok36t@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:03:02 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>Vista's "repair install" is called an upgrade-in-place. However, it only
>>works if the desktop at least loads. It is done by launching Setup from
>>the
>>desktop, choosing Install Now, and doing an upgrade. If the desktop does
>>not load then you will need to reinstall.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> So all of the best backup strategies in the world will probably be
> useless if a mobo needs to be replaced and the same one can't be
> found.
>
> THAT sucks.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I guess you just have no clue about backup. People should back up their
data, not the OS. The OS can be installed on another machine but your data
can't be recreated if your hard drive dies.

If the MOBO dies, you can move the HDD to another machine as a slave drive
to salvage any data if you are STUPID enough NOT to make backups to begin
with.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>To protect your Vista VSS files from deletion by booting into XP follow
>>this
>>KB.
>>
>>
>>"Francis Bacon" <francis__bacon@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:%232I2ZEtyIHA.4952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> So chaps and ladies, my motherboard went and died on me, it was out of
>>> warranty and I now have a new motherboard. I have a dual boot XP and
>>> Vista
>>> setup and both of them seem to be barfing quite nicely with the new
>>> motherboard. I´ve solved the XP issue with a repair install, but the
>>> Vista
>>> repair process does not appear to have the same procedure available, and
>>> also it will not allow me to perform an "upgrade" over the old
>>> install.....*grumbles*
>>>
>>> So, is there anything I can do?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Francis
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Re: Motherboard fried, new motherboard, oh oh disk driver issues,blue screen rebooty time!

On Jun 10, 12:38 pm, "Bill Yanaire" <b...@yanaire.com> wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Nonny" <nonnymo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:etat44tcv7i5l45unnol83smk30ouok36t@4ax.com...
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:03:02 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> > <c.barnho...@comcast.net> wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> >>Vista's "repair install" is called an upgrade-in-place.  However, it only
> >>works if the desktop at least loads.  It is done by launching Setup from
> >>the
> >>desktop, choosing Install Now, and doing an upgrade.  If the desktop does
> >>not load then you will need to reinstall.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > So all of the best backup strategies in the world will probably be
> > useless if a mobo needs to be replaced and the same one can't be
> > found.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > THAT sucks.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I guess you just have no clue about backup.  People should back up their
> data, not the OS.  The OS can be installed on another machine but your data
> can't be recreated if your hard drive dies.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I back it all up, doofus. I can restore all of it or any part of it
at will.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> If the MOBO dies, you can move the HDD to another machine as a slave drive
> to salvage any data if you are STUPID enough NOT to make backups to begin
> with.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I can do that now, moron. You have any more useless crap to add?

 

Re: Motherboard fried, new motherboard, oh oh disk driver issues, blue screen rebooty time!

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:47:02 -0700 (PDT), Nonny
<i.m.nonnymous@gmail.com> wrote:

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I back it all up, doofus. I can restore all of it or any part of it
>at will.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You think you'll be able to until you actually try to do it, then when
it fails you'll cry like a baby.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I can do that now, moron. You have any more useless crap to add?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Dopes that like to keep making disk images of "everything" are like
kids given a new box of crayons. They just got to play with every
color in the box.

I bet Nonny even makes a image of his recycle bin.

ROTFLMAO!

 

Re: Motherboard fried, new motherboard, oh oh disk driver issues,blue screen rebooty time!

On Jun 10, 12:38 pm, "Bill Yanaire" <b...@yanaire.com> wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Nonny" <nonnymo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:etat44tcv7i5l45unnol83smk30ouok36t@4ax.com...
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:03:02 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> > <c.barnho...@comcast.net> wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> >>Vista's "repair install" is called an upgrade-in-place.  However, it only
> >>works if the desktop at least loads.  It is done by launching Setup from
> >>the
> >>desktop, choosing Install Now, and doing an upgrade.  If the desktop does
> >>not load then you will need to reinstall.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > So all of the best backup strategies in the world will probably be
> > useless if a mobo needs to be replaced and the same one can't be
> > found.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > THAT sucks.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I guess you just have no clue about backup.  People should back up their
> data, not the OS.  The OS can be installed on another machine but your data
> can't be recreated if your hard drive dies.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You have no clue about what I know, doofus. My True Image backups can
be used to fully restore my system, or any part of it - at will.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> If the MOBO dies, you can move the HDD to another machine as a slave drive
> to salvage any data if you are STUPID enough NOT to make backups to begin
> with.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Why go to all that bother when True Image will restore any file/
directory I choose in my backup and will restore it to any place I
choose?

Go back to playing with your Vista-bashing and Ubuntu friends, you
twit. You fit in well in that group.

 

There you go again.


"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
news:1ist44hb5i8j0rqsg94ns6773c6sqdnf8j@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:47:02 -0700 (PDT), Nonny
> <i.m.nonnymous@gmail.com> wrote:
>
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>I back it all up, doofus. I can restore all of it or any part of it
>>at will.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You think you'll be able to until you actually try to do it, then when
> it fails you'll cry like a baby.
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>I can do that now, moron. You have any more useless crap to add?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Dopes that like to keep making disk images of "everything" are like
> kids given a new box of crayons. They just got to play with every
> color in the box.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Dopes like Adam, adding to the insult count. Maybe there should be some
forum counter where we can check on all your moronic posts. What does Dr.
Laura and Rush Limbaugh have to say today, Adam?

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I bet Nonny even makes a image of his recycle bin.
>
> ROTFLMAO!
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Re: Motherboard fried, new motherboard, oh oh disk driver issues, blue screen rebooty time!

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:35:43 -0700 (PDT), Nonny
<i.m.nonnymous@gmail.com> wrote:

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Why go to all that bother when True Image will restore any file/
>directory I choose in my backup and will restore it to any place I
>choose?
>
>Go back to playing with your Vista-bashing and Ubuntu friends, you
>twit. You fit in well in that group.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I always get a kick out of how smug fanboys always are... until they
screw something up, then they howl.

The web is full of stories like this about imaging software:

"I've taken the plunge and got hold of a copy of True Image 11 to back
up my Raid 0 with, as everyone on here swears by it. The only problem
is, when I tried to roll back my system with an "image" I created as a
"tester" the image changed my drive letters around, and I couldn't
boot!"

"I've been taking scheduled nightly incremental images for a couple of
weeks without a problem. Last night, TrueImage crashed in the middle
of the operation. According to the log, TI got halfway through -- it
finished with the first partition and said Pending operation 116
started: "Creating partition image" for the second partition, but then
there's nothing after that.

Here's the error information taken from the event log:

Faulting application TrueImageService.exe, version 9.0.0.2337,
faulting module TrueImageService.exe, version 9.0.0.2337, fault
address 0x001dd1a9."

"In the past few days I've been unable to boot using a CD-ROM, CD-RW,
floppy boot set, or even using the GUI interface, which then reboots
the system into the Caldera DR DOS interface."

The boot gets past the blue screen with icons, and then locks up when
the Acronis logo first appears. It doesn't get as far as the 'pseudo
cursor' that I've noticed in the past."

 

In article <etat44tcv7i5l45unnol83smk30ouok36t@4ax.com>,
nonnymoose@yahoo.com says...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:03:02 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> >Vista's "repair install" is called an upgrade-in-place. However, it only
> >works if the desktop at least loads. It is done by launching Setup from the
> >desktop, choosing Install Now, and doing an upgrade. If the desktop does
> >not load then you will need to reinstall.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> So all of the best backup strategies in the world will probably be
> useless if a mobo needs to be replaced and the same one can't be
> found.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Acronis True Image with universal restore will restore
to completely new hardware. You will have to reactivate.

 

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:55:41 -0700, GeraldF <youare@somewhere.com>
wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>In article <etat44tcv7i5l45unnol83smk30ouok36t@4ax.com>,
>nonnymoose@yahoo.com says...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 07:03:02 -0600, "Colin Barnhorst"
>> <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> >Vista's "repair install" is called an upgrade-in-place. However, it only
>> >works if the desktop at least loads. It is done by launching Setup from the
>> >desktop, choosing Install Now, and doing an upgrade. If the desktop does
>> >not load then you will need to reinstall.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> So all of the best backup strategies in the world will probably be
>> useless if a mobo needs to be replaced and the same one can't be
>> found.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>Acronis True Image with universal restore will restore
>to completely new hardware. You will have to reactivate.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You buffoon. Can't you read?

VISTA WON'T DO REPAIR INSTALLATIONS if the system won't load, and it
won't load with a totally new motherboard in place.

Need help with understanding that?

 

i feel your pain francis, i was just upgrading my m/b from an intel
based chipset to a nVidia based one and Vista won't load. my WinXP on
the other hard drive that is slaved will tho. go figure. wish there was
a way to install the chipset drivers while in WinXP to the Vista OS.
someone should make a program for that, sure would make some money i
bet. good luck with yours, i'll be joining you in the "fresh install"
group.


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