Man-- I Got Hosed

I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and it
seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?

 

More of a question for an office newsgroup. However, now that it's expired,
it's time to pay the piper and by a copy.

"Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:Ok7u8ACHKHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
: I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
: Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
: now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and
it
: seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?
:

 

Nothing to do with Vista, but if you want to use functions of Office 2007,
you have to buy a license, you can't use something you didn't pay for, I
don't see how you can think you got hosed?

--


------
"Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:Ok7u8ACHKHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
> now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and
> it seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
>now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and it
>seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You "hosed" yourself, bozo.

 

"Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
>now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and it
>seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

If you want to use Office you'll have to pay for it, as others have
said. There are alternatives. Open Office () is a
free, open source office suite with loads of functionality. And
low-cost, even free, fax programs are available. Google for them.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(Shell/User)
Slattery_T@bls.gov

 

Alias the thief wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> David B. wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Nothing to do with Vista, but if you want to use functions of Office
>> 2007, you have to buy a license, you can't use something you didn't
>> pay for, I don't see how you can think you got hosed?
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Um, yes you can use Office 2007 without paying for it:
>
> 2007/0/99/300
>
> I would recommend though.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're now a confirmed thief!

 

Alias, the lying thief wrote:

<--deleted this apparent thieves dance around the truth as a public
service-->

You're an admitted lying thief!

 

Because in previous versions of Windows being able to send and receive faxes
was pretty much a given. Now I am supposed to upgrade for the capability. It
would be cheaper just to buy a fax machine. Thankfully I have a machine with
XP in the same room. This still sucks though.


"David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
news:epLmV0CHKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Nothing to do with Vista, but if you want to use functions of Office 2007,
> you have to buy a license, you can't use something you didn't pay for, I
> don't see how you can think you got hosed?
>
> --
>
>
> ------
> "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:Ok7u8ACHKHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all-
>> and now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes
>> and it seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:Ok7u8ACHKHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
> now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and
> it seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

The Fax capabilities are not free with any version of Office, they were
included with Windows XP and are also included with the "business" versions
of Vista. Home Vista versions do not include fax capabilities. You will
need to either download a free fax program or purchase one. Google is your
friend in this case.

IIRC the only way to send a fax from within Office is to either print to a
fax program using your fax/modem and an analog line or paying for an
internet fax service.

 

"Bill Daggett" <Daggett@wmunny.invalid> wrote in message
news:6sd8851dvlm79hilqap21q9qnmh0nrekse@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>>Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
>>now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and
>>it
>>seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You "hosed" yourself, bozo.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

By buying Vista and HP it seems. It's a known problem on the HP site for my
model.

 

"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
news:scf885ln3jfhsimoirpt2ooll7ciq0v18r@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>>Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
>>now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and
>>it
>>seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> If you want to use Office you'll have to pay for it, as others have
> said. There are alternatives. Open Office () is a
> free, open source office suite with loads of functionality. And
> low-cost, even free, fax programs are available. Google for them.
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> MS MVP(Shell/User)
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I was supposed to get to use it for 60 days by buying this HP notebook with
Vista on it. That was their deal. I never got to use it at all! From day 1
there were problems activating it. As I said it's a known issue on my model
on the HP website. And guess what, I have Office XP so I just use that. But
when it's loaded into Vista rather than my XP machine the fax capabilities
are all jacked and won't work.

 

Anthony Williams wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
> news:scf885ln3jfhsimoirpt2ooll7ciq0v18r@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>>> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at
>>> all- and
>>> now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes
>>> and it
>>> seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> If you want to use Office you'll have to pay for it, as others have
>> said. There are alternatives. Open Office () is a
>> free, open source office suite with loads of functionality. And
>> low-cost, even free, fax programs are available. Google for them.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Slattery
>> MS MVP(Shell/User)
>> Slattery_T@bls.gov
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I was supposed to get to use it for 60 days by buying this HP notebook
> with Vista on it. That was their deal. I never got to use it at all!
> From day 1 there were problems activating it. As I said it's a known
> issue on my model on the HP website. And guess what, I have Office XP so
> I just use that. But when it's loaded into Vista rather than my XP
> machine the fax capabilities are all jacked and won't work.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

XP Pro the OS has FAX capabilities and so does Vista Business and Ultimate.

I don't think Office XP included FAX software.



....but I may be wrong.

 

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:29:15 -0500, "Anthony Williams"
<TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Because in previous versions of Windows being able to send and receive faxes
> was pretty much a given. Now I am supposed to upgrade for the capability.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


No. What you are supposed to do is do the research to find out what
you get in the product you buy before you buy it, and decide whether
that's the right product for you. That's true whether you buy
software, a car, or anything else.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> It
> would be cheaper just to buy a fax machine.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Or a third-party fax machine. Or, if you don't fax often, pay for the
use of a fax service whenever you need it. My personal choice is to
buy an inexpensive stand-alone fax machine. I paid $20 on sale for
mine.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Thankfully I have a machine with
> XP in the same room. This still sucks though.
>
>
> "David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
> news:epLmV0CHKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > Nothing to do with Vista, but if you want to use functions of Office 2007,
> > you have to buy a license, you can't use something you didn't pay for, I
> > don't see how you can think you got hosed?
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > ------
> > "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote in message
> > news:Ok7u8ACHKHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> >> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
> >> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all-
> >> and now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes
> >> and it seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

"Frank" <fb@ber.csa> wrote in message news:4a8455a1$1@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Anthony Williams wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
>> news:scf885ln3jfhsimoirpt2ooll7ciq0v18r@4ax.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>>>> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all-
>>>> and
>>>> now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes
>>>> and it
>>>> seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?
>>>
>>> If you want to use Office you'll have to pay for it, as others have
>>> said. There are alternatives. Open Office () is a
>>> free, open source office suite with loads of functionality. And
>>> low-cost, even free, fax programs are available. Google for them.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim Slattery
>>> MS MVP(Shell/User)
>>> Slattery_T@bls.gov
>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I was supposed to get to use it for 60 days by buying this HP notebook
>> with Vista on it. That was their deal. I never got to use it at all! From
>> day 1 there were problems activating it. As I said it's a known issue on
>> my model on the HP website. And guess what, I have Office XP so I just
>> use that. But when it's loaded into Vista rather than my XP machine the
>> fax capabilities are all jacked and won't work.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> XP Pro the OS has FAX capabilities and so does Vista Business and
> Ultimate.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Well now that I think about it my Desktop does have Windows XP Professional
Version 2002 on it. It also has a basic version of Office XP on it. But you
could send a fax in Windows 98. Are you telling me that in Windows XP Home
or basic or whatever you couldn't send faxes?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> I don't think Office XP included FAX software.
>
>
>
> ...but I may be wrong. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"LVTravel" <none@nothere.com> wrote in message
news:ebWFHvDHKHA.2516@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:Ok7u8ACHKHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all-
>> and now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes
>> and it seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> The Fax capabilities are not free with any version of Office, they were
> included with Windows XP and are also included with the "business"
> versions of Vista. Home Vista versions do not include fax capabilities.
> You will need to either download a free fax program or purchase one.
> Google is your friend in this case.
>
> IIRC the only way to send a fax from within Office is to either print to a
> fax program using your fax/modem and an analog line or paying for an
> internet fax service.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Obviously I'm not sure how it works. From Microsoft Word (in XP) you could
just go File>Send To>Fax Recipient. But it's just as easy to use the
software that came with my $15 dollar modem though. It just gets to me me
that I can't do it from my "new notebook." I mean you could send faxes with
older versions of windows.

 

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:kkm885dr4aa68ch2sellel0kt0dr4a4hu8@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:29:15 -0500, "Anthony Williams"
> <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Because in previous versions of Windows being able to send and receive
>> faxes
>> was pretty much a given. Now I am supposed to upgrade for the capability.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> No. What you are supposed to do is do the research to find out what
> you get in the product you buy before you buy it, and decide whether
> that's the right product for you. That's true whether you buy
> software, a car, or anything else.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Man, there may well be some truth (a lot) to that. But you can hardly fault
me for thinking I would surely be able to send faxes if needed. It's like
Windows not being able to play cd's or Windows coming without Internet
Explorer or Windows Media Player or something --all the previous versions
had it.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> It
>> would be cheaper just to buy a fax machine.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> Or a third-party fax machine. Or, if you don't fax often, pay for the
> use of a fax service whenever you need it. My personal choice is to
> buy an inexpensive stand-alone fax machine. I paid $20 on sale for
> mine.
>
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Thankfully I have a machine with
>> XP in the same room. This still sucks though.
>>
>>
>> "David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
>> news:epLmV0CHKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> > Nothing to do with Vista, but if you want to use functions of Office
>> > 2007,
>> > you have to buy a license, you can't use something you didn't pay for,
>> > I
>> > don't see how you can think you got hosed?
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> >
>> > ------
>> > "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote in message
>> > news:Ok7u8ACHKHA.4024@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>> >> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all-
>> >> and now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive
>> >> Faxes
>> >> and it seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?
>> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Anthony Williams wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Frank" <fb@ber.csa> wrote in message news:4a8455a1$1@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Anthony Williams wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> "Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
>>> news:scf885ln3jfhsimoirpt2ooll7ciq0v18r@4ax.com...
>>>> "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>>>>> Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at
>>>>> all- and
>>>>> now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive
>>>>> Faxes and it
>>>>> seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?
>>>>
>>>> If you want to use Office you'll have to pay for it, as others have
>>>> said. There are alternatives. Open Office () is a
>>>> free, open source office suite with loads of functionality. And
>>>> low-cost, even free, fax programs are available. Google for them.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tim Slattery
>>>> MS MVP(Shell/User)
>>>> Slattery_T@bls.gov
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was supposed to get to use it for 60 days by buying this HP
>>> notebook with Vista on it. That was their deal. I never got to use it
>>> at all! From day 1 there were problems activating it. As I said it's
>>> a known issue on my model on the HP website. And guess what, I have
>>> Office XP so I just use that. But when it's loaded into Vista rather
>>> than my XP machine the fax capabilities are all jacked and won't work.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> XP Pro the OS has FAX capabilities and so does Vista Business and
>> Ultimate.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Well now that I think about it my Desktop does have Windows XP
> Professional Version 2002 on it. It also has a basic version of Office
> XP on it. But you could send a fax in Windows 98. Are you telling me
> that in Windows XP Home or basic or whatever you couldn't send faxes?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I've never, ever used the Home or Basic versions of any Windows OS, so I
can't speak from experience.
You might try googling for your answer.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> I don't think Office XP included FAX software.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...but I may be wrong. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:03:45 -0500, "Anthony Williams"
<TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:kkm885dr4aa68ch2sellel0kt0dr4a4hu8@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 12:29:15 -0500, "Anthony Williams"
> > <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
> ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> >> Because in previous versions of Windows being able to send and receive
> >> faxes
> >> was pretty much a given. Now I am supposed to upgrade for the capability.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> >
> >
> > No. What you are supposed to do is do the research to find out what
> > you get in the product you buy before you buy it, and decide whether
> > that's the right product for you. That's true whether you buy
> > software, a car, or anything else.
> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> Man, there may well be some truth (a lot) to that. But you can hardly fault
> me for thinking I would surely be able to send faxes if needed. It's like
> Windows not being able to play cd's or Windows coming without Internet
> Explorer or Windows Media Player or something --all the previous versions
> had it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I'm not trying to fault you or anyone else. I can well understand why
you might make such an assumption. But please don't fault Microsoft
for your not checking to see whether your assumption was correct.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:08:03 -0500, "Anthony Williams"
<TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
>now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and it
>seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Trial version - usually 30 days .

 

"Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>"Bill Daggett" <Daggett@wmunny.invalid> wrote in message
>news:6sd8851dvlm79hilqap21q9qnmh0nrekse@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Anthony Williams" <TruthSeeker@swbell.net> wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I bought an HP notebook that came preinstalled with a trial version of
>>>Office 2007. Well, I never been to activate it --never used it at all- and
>>>now it's expired. What I really want to do is send and receive Faxes and
>>>it
>>>seems I read somewhere this was possible with Office 2007. WTF?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> You "hosed" yourself, bozo.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>By buying Vista and HP it seems. It's a known problem on the HP site for my
>model. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

WHAT i"known problem"? That your version of Vista has no faxing
capability? Everyone with the same version on ANY computer has that
"known problem", you idiot.