I've been away from here a while

I left this newsgroup some months ago cos it appeared to be full of
8-year-old kids who enjoy arguing with each other, and idiots who try and
peddle their preferred OS in the group supposedly for Vista support/help
(who know who you are Alias).

Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
8-year-old kids arguing with each other, and the same idiot still trying to
peddle the same OS in the group.

Some things never change. Maybe I'll come back in a year's time (but
probably won't cos by then I'll be using Windows 7).

 

Good people DO care that this news group has gone down the toilet! It is
such a shame.

--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Duck,Duck,Goose" <DDG@romperroom.icu> wrote in message
news:4a59f74f@news.x-privat.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
> news:zDm6m.192$Ae3.178@newsfe01.ams2...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>I left this newsgroup some months ago cos it appeared to be full of
>>8-year-old kids who enjoy arguing with each other, and idiots who try and
>>peddle their preferred OS in the group supposedly for Vista support/help
>>(who know who you are Alias).
>>
>> Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
>> 8-year-old kids arguing with each other, and the same idiot still trying
>> to peddle the same OS in the group.
>>
>> Some things never change. Maybe I'll come back in a year's time (but
>> probably won't cos by then I'll be using Windows 7).
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> Is that a promise or a threat?
> No one cares.
>
> It's a newsgroup.
> Not a family reunion. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Brian W wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I left this newsgroup some months ago cos it appeared to be full of
> 8-year-old kids who enjoy arguing with each other, and idiots who try
> and peddle their preferred OS in the group supposedly for Vista
> support/help (who know who you are Alias).
>
> Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
> 8-year-old kids arguing with each other, and the same idiot still trying
> to peddle the same OS in the group.
>
> Some things never change. Maybe I'll come back in a year's time (but
> probably won't cos by then I'll be using Windows 7).
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Don't let the screen door hit you on the ass on your way out. Just FYI.

 

For the most part you can avoid them. Frank has tied up Alias's conversation
for, what, years now?

But there's not that much to talk about here anyway as this is a
peer-to-peer tech support group for Windows. What do you want to say, you
like Windows? That great conversation just isn't here, nor ever will be. The
OS and Browser wars are dull - let's face it - people use what they want and
you can jump up and down all day and it won't change a thing.

One of the best newsgroups I read for computer talk was a PGP newgroup that
was active a few years back. You had some very knowledgeable people discuss
encryption, math, governments, security, and computers and computing in
general. You could ask what something meant and they would tell you too. But
then the newsgroups got poisoned with inordinate amounts of spamming and
things became untenable. Around the same time, my ISP - Rogers Cable -
dropped Usenet and since I don't have a Usenet subscription (e.g. Giganews),
I do not know the state of affairs of Usenet today. I only get this group
because I log onto the Microsoft servers directly.

Saucy


"Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
news:zDm6m.192$Ae3.178@newsfe01.ams2...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I left this newsgroup some months ago cos it appeared to be full of
> 8-year-old kids who enjoy arguing with each other, and idiots who try and
> peddle their preferred OS in the group supposedly for Vista support/help
> (who know who you are Alias).
>
> Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
> 8-year-old kids arguing with each other, and the same idiot still trying
> to peddle the same OS in the group.
>
> Some things never change. Maybe I'll come back in a year's time (but
> probably won't cos by then I'll be using Windows 7).
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Duck,Duck,Goose wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e%23ap4GwAKHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Good people DO care that this news group has gone down the toilet! It
>> is such a shame.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> What is a shame?
> That it's not an exclusive stomping ground for MVP's to SPAM their
> websites in?
>
> That "trolls" have flame wars here?
> The flame wars stay in particular types of threads...they can easily be
> ignored, though for entertainment they are more fun to read.
>
> Users are still able to get questions answered.
> Let's not be babies here.
>
> If users subscribe to the msnews server, they don't see half of these post.
> It's really not that bad.
>
> Relax a little.
> It's just typed words.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I agree, BUT. . .

there is a very, very long list of names of intelligent and helpful
people who DO NOT bother to contribute here anymore. That IS a shame.

BTW, save the flames. I am also checking out (for the 3rd time).

 

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Good people DO care that this news group has gone down the toilet! It is
>such a shame.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

A good newsreader and liberal use of killfiles makes things quite
nice.

I rarely see the bleeping idiots like Alias, kevpan, Frank, Yanaire
(and all permutations), Spankey (and all permutations) and the people
who can't control themselves and MUST reply to them.

When I do see them, it's when someone not in my killfile replies to
them or starts a thread about one of them. They are put on "monitor"
and are killfiled when they do it again.

 

What I dislike enormously is when Spankey (and all permutations) including when he
uses Kevpan makes fun of the real Kevpan (Kevin) who is mentally handicapped from
injuries received serving our country. Nobody in that situation deserves that. These
are sick people without any conscience or respect towards others

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Jim Moriarty" <jmoriarty@aconandoyle.invalid> wrote in message
news:4e4k55p5nugrfcjt0du8e8jhrp7nunppuj@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>Good people DO care that this news group has gone down the toilet! It is
>>such a shame.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> A good newsreader and liberal use of killfiles makes things quite
> nice.
>
> I rarely see the bleeping idiots like Alias, kevpan, Frank, Yanaire
> (and all permutations), Spankey (and all permutations) and the people
> who can't control themselves and MUST reply to them.
>
> When I do see them, it's when someone not in my killfile replies to
> them or starts a thread about one of them. They are put on "monitor"
> and are killfiled when they do it again. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
> 8-year-old kids arguing with each other<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Two suggestions.
1. Most newsreaders have a way to block authors. Use it.
When I open this newsgroup, it shows an initial number of
new messages. A moment later, after deleting all the posts
from blocked authors, the number is significantly smaller.
And I read the group messages without all the crap by the idiots.
2. Never reply to the trolls.

 

"Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
news:zDm6m.192$Ae3.178@newsfe01.ams2...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I left this newsgroup some months ago cos it appeared to be full of
> 8-year-old kids who enjoy arguing with each other, and idiots who try and
> peddle their preferred OS in the group supposedly for Vista support/help
> (who know who you are Alias).
>
> Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
> 8-year-old kids arguing with each other, and the same idiot still trying
> to peddle the same OS in the group.
>
> Some things never change. Maybe I'll come back in a year's time (but
> probably won't cos by then I'll be using Windows 7).
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Unfortunately yes, guess that is why Windows 7 discussion groups will
apparently be on a moderated web based forum.
I personally much prefer the interface of a newsgroup, but it at least ought
to clean up somewhat.



--
Don

 

Most of the "intelligent and helpful people" have seen the light and now
participate/contribute in the new Windows Vista Answers Forum:


The microsoft.public.windows.vista.general newsgroup is withering on the
vine and dieing a slow death.


Dave T. wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Duck,Duck,Goose wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e%23ap4GwAKHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Good people DO care that this news group has gone down the toilet! It
>>> is such a shame.
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> What is a shame?
>> That it's not an exclusive stomping ground for MVP's to SPAM their
>> websites in?
>>
>> That "trolls" have flame wars here?
>> The flame wars stay in particular types of threads...they can easily
>> be ignored, though for entertainment they are more fun to read.
>>
>> Users are still able to get questions answered.
>> Let's not be babies here.
>>
>> If users subscribe to the msnews server, they don't see half of these
>> post.
>> It's really not that bad.
>>
>> Relax a little.
>> It's just typed words.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I agree, BUT. . .
>
> there is a very, very long list of names of intelligent and helpful
> people who DO NOT bother to contribute here anymore. That IS a shame.
>
> BTW, save the flames. I am also checking out (for the 3rd time).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Dave T." <Dave@domaine.invalid> wrote in message
news:h3d3df$l8i$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Duck,Duck,Goose wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e%23ap4GwAKHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Good people DO care that this news group has gone down the toilet! It is
>>> such a shame.
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> What is a shame?
>> That it's not an exclusive stomping ground for MVP's to SPAM their
>> websites in?
>>
>> That "trolls" have flame wars here?
>> The flame wars stay in particular types of threads...they can easily be
>> ignored, though for entertainment they are more fun to read.
>>
>> Users are still able to get questions answered.
>> Let's not be babies here.
>>
>> If users subscribe to the msnews server, they don't see half of these
>> post.
>> It's really not that bad.
>>
>> Relax a little.
>> It's just typed words.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I agree, BUT. . .
>
> there is a very, very long list of names of intelligent and helpful people
> who DO NOT bother to contribute here anymore. That IS a shame.
>
> BTW, save the flames. I am also checking out (for the 3rd time).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Wow.
If what goes on here bothers you, I can't imagine you can take the real
world.

The land of the thin skinned, and the home of the politically correct.

What bothers me is 4 cartons of cigarettes cost me $135.00.
$95.00 of that is federal and state taxes.
And, at the end of the sale, another $12.00 in sales tax is tacked on for
good measure.

 

Elemental <frankbismoron@com.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Don wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:zDm6m.192$Ae3.178@newsfe01.ams2...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I left this newsgroup some months ago cos it appeared to be full of
>>> 8-year-old kids who enjoy arguing with each other, and idiots who try
>>> and peddle their preferred OS in the group supposedly for Vista
>>> support/help (who know who you are Alias).
>>>
>>> Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
>>> 8-year-old kids arguing with each other, and the same idiot still
>>> trying to peddle the same OS in the group.
>>>
>>> Some things never change. Maybe I'll come back in a year's time (but
>>> probably won't cos by then I'll be using Windows 7).
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Unfortunately yes, guess that is why Windows 7 discussion groups will
>> apparently be on a moderated web based forum.
>> I personally much prefer the interface of a newsgroup, but it at least
>> ought to clean up somewhat.
>>
>>
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
>The good part with that is that Frank and spanky will not be there.
>The bad part with that, is that when people express their anger and
>disgust for Microsoft products the posts will quickly be erased.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Maybe MS will create microsoft.public.windows.idiots.rant.here

That crap doesn't belong in a support group.

 

"Leroy" <leroy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4A5A3F86.3000105@earthlink.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Most of the "intelligent and helpful people" have seen the light and now
> participate/contribute in the new Windows Vista Answers Forum:
>
>
> The microsoft.public.windows.vista.general newsgroup is withering on the
> vine and dieing a slow death.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I think m.p.w.v.g is one of the most active NG's around.

I'm sure uptight weenies like the forum better.

Are SPAM sigs allowed in the forum?

 

"Leroy" <leroy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:4A5A3F86.3000105@earthlink.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Most of the "intelligent and helpful people" have seen the light and now
> participate/contribute in the new Windows Vista Answers Forum:
>
>
> The microsoft.public.windows.vista.general newsgroup is withering on the
> vine and dieing a slow death.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I think m.p.w.v.g is one of the most active NG's around.

I'm sure uptight weenies like the forum better.

Are SPAM sigs allowed in the forum?

 

"Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
news:afgk55lro6ciqcevmnh1qkajio6ackp30v@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Elemental <frankbismoron@com.com> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>Don wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> "Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:zDm6m.192$Ae3.178@newsfe01.ams2...
>>>> I left this newsgroup some months ago cos it appeared to be full of
>>>> 8-year-old kids who enjoy arguing with each other, and idiots who try
>>>> and peddle their preferred OS in the group supposedly for Vista
>>>> support/help (who know who you are Alias).
>>>>
>>>> Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
>>>> 8-year-old kids arguing with each other, and the same idiot still
>>>> trying to peddle the same OS in the group.
>>>>
>>>> Some things never change. Maybe I'll come back in a year's time (but
>>>> probably won't cos by then I'll be using Windows 7).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately yes, guess that is why Windows 7 discussion groups will
>>> apparently be on a moderated web based forum.
>>> I personally much prefer the interface of a newsgroup, but it at least
>>> ought to clean up somewhat.
>>>
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>
>>The good part with that is that Frank and spanky will not be there.
>>The bad part with that, is that when people express their anger and
>>disgust for Microsoft products the posts will quickly be erased.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Maybe MS will create microsoft.public.windows.idiots.rant.here
>
> That crap doesn't belong in a support group.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


You said crap.
Very unprofessional.

Doing a little trolling?
Fun...ain't it?

 

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:56:48 -0400, "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>
wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>What I dislike enormously is when Spankey (and all permutations) including when he
>uses Kevpan makes fun of the real Kevpan (Kevin) who is mentally handicapped from
>injuries received serving our country. Nobody in that situation deserves that. These
>are sick people without any conscience or respect towards others<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

He may not know that. I mean, he's a newsgroup a-hole, but it's just
an act. Perhaps if he's aware, he will have more respect.

 

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:04:12 -0400, "Duck,Duck,Goose"
<DDG@romperroom.icu> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
>Wow.
>If what goes on here bothers you, I can't imagine you can take the real
>world.
>The land of the thin skinned, and the home of the politically correct.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Geez, for one I can agree with you, even if you are a perpetual
duckhead.

Killfiles are for weenies. If you don't want to read someone's posts,
restrain yourself. If you haven't got that much willpower then you
will have much bigger problems succeeding in life.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>What bothers me is 4 cartons of cigarettes cost me $135.00.
>$95.00 of that is federal and state taxes.
>And, at the end of the sale, another $12.00 in sales tax is tacked on for
>good measure. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

So stop smoking, moron. You really are a duckhead.

 

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:47:24 -0500, "Don"
<burnettedclothes@hotmail.com> wrote:

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>Unfortunately yes, guess that is why Windows 7 discussion groups will
>apparently be on a moderated web based forum.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Proof that that's the intent of MS?

 

"+Bob+" <nomailplease@example.com> wrote in message
news:daik555ier7lrrqucnu72qtjkelimgs9l1@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:04:12 -0400, "Duck,Duck,Goose"
> <DDG@romperroom.icu> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>
>>Wow.
>>If what goes on here bothers you, I can't imagine you can take the real
>>world.
>>The land of the thin skinned, and the home of the politically correct.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Geez, for one I can agree with you, even if you are a perpetual
> duckhead.
>
> Killfiles are for weenies. If you don't want to read someone's posts,
> restrain yourself. If you haven't got that much willpower then you
> will have much bigger problems succeeding in life.
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>What bothers me is 4 cartons of cigarettes cost me $135.00.
>>$95.00 of that is federal and state taxes.
>>And, at the end of the sale, another $12.00 in sales tax is tacked on for
>>good measure.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> So stop smoking, moron. You really are a duckhead.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I'm stressed out from this newsgroup.
Calling me a duckhead made me smoke half a pack already.

 

"Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@ntlSPAMworld.com> wrote in message
news:zDm6m.192$Ae3.178@newsfe01.ams2...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I left this newsgroup some months ago cos it appeared to be full of
>8-year-old kids who enjoy arguing with each other, and idiots who try and
>peddle their preferred OS in the group supposedly for Vista support/help
>(who know who you are Alias).
>
> Well I dropped in today, and guess what? It's still full of the same
> 8-year-old kids arguing with each other, and the same idiot still trying
> to peddle the same OS in the group.
>
> Some things never change. Maybe I'll come back in a year's time (but
> probably won't cos by then I'll be using Windows 7).
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Good luck in your quest for Newsgroup Utopia

--
Jon