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I got some encouRaging results with Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by Tae Song, Jun 6, 2009.

  1. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "Mark Levitski" <SS@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:OipRM9x5JHA.2656@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > I was able to customize and tweak around Vista gto make it look like
    > WinXP.
    > Processing speed is now on par with XP if not faster.
    > As I said I can spend countless hours on computers and do it for a living,
    > so no problem with that.
    >
    > I still insist that a number of issues can never be resolved and remain to
    > be either fixed by Windows7 or I'll start experimenting with Linux.
    >
    > Such as Search, WinExplorer is now 90% like Vista, parts of its interface
    > are BETTER than WinXP, but folders forgetting their views and inability to
    > apply global view template are painful.
    > COlors are still messed up in some applications. Etc. etc, but at least I
    > am semi-happy tonight.
    >
    > I am not as happy as I was last week when WinXP was still running. Vista
    > upgrade story happened as a result of reformatting disk drives after being
    > attacked by a special Chinese virus... long story
    > WinXP disk was discovered to have been lost, so I ran to a local store and
    > all they had were Vistas, too long to wait for shipping WinXP from Wev
    > sellers.
    >
    > This is how my Vista story started, i am here by accident. I started
    > using Vista simply because virus affected certain thigns here I won't
    > mention., I had to totally reinsatll.
    > But finally after a week it looks somewhat more pleasing than upto
    > yesterday.
    >
    > I programmed WinExplorer to behave in an amazingly efficient way, opening
    > desired REAL folders imemdieatly, quick navigation, no mouse necessary.
    > The Search is a failure however. It finds music & pictures, and simple
    > filenames. try quering Binary files for random strings that WinXP easily
    > handled, .... impossibl ein Vista.


    Here is the website on how to use the new search on Vista and XP (available
    as an update).

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/technicalresources/advquery.mspx

    They made it query the index like a database.
     
  2. I was able to customize and tweak around Vista gto make it look like WinXP.
    Processing speed is now on par with XP if not faster.
    As I said I can spend countless hours on computers and do it for a living,
    so no problem with that.

    I still insist that a number of issues can never be resolved and remain to
    be either fixed by Windows7 or I'll start experimenting with Linux.

    Such as Search, WinExplorer is now 90% like Vista, parts of its interface
    are BETTER than WinXP, but folders forgetting their views and inability to
    apply global view template are painful.
    COlors are still messed up in some applications. Etc. etc, but at least I
    am semi-happy tonight.

    I am not as happy as I was last week when WinXP was still running. Vista
    upgrade story happened as a result of reformatting disk drives after being
    attacked by a special Chinese virus... long story
    WinXP disk was discovered to have been lost, so I ran to a local store and
    all they had were Vistas, too long to wait for shipping WinXP from Wev
    sellers.

    This is how my Vista story started, i am here by accident. I started using
    Vista simply because virus affected certain thigns here I won't mention., I
    had to totally reinsatll.
    But finally after a week it looks somewhat more pleasing than upto
    yesterday.

    I programmed WinExplorer to behave in an amazingly efficient way, opening
    desired REAL folders imemdieatly, quick navigation, no mouse necessary.
    The Search is a failure however. It finds music & pictures, and simple
    filenames. try quering Binary files for random strings that WinXP easily
    handled, .... impossibl ein Vista.
     
  3. I know how to find things on the Web, my friend. That website is a copy of
    Search's Help file. I know that.
    Here's a fact however:

    IT FAILS.

    We tested multiple files, as simple as ASCII (plain Text) and it missed at
    least 1/4 of files containing a test string.
    It doesn't matter twhether it's *string, *string*, or string*, or type:*.txt
    [teststring]

    It just finds things that it likes to, not that actually exist.
    I started with Internet in the age of Gopher, BBS, and Finger.
    I don't need to be educated in Googling for answers, I KNOW how toy use
    search as well as $35-60,000 CAD softwarre.
    Engineer here.

    It just fails with highly technical files, and this is what we use search
    for. Not for music or pictures. Of Eord docs, I search for more complex
    things that Win2000, WinXP, etc were finding, not with Vista. Vista's
    search is FAST... and dumb!
     
  4. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "Mark Levitski" <SS@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:Or19qJ$5JHA.4632@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > I know how to find things on the Web, my friend. That website is a copy
    > of Search's Help file. I know that.


    Wrong.



    > Here's a fact however:
    >
    > IT FAILS.
    >


    Only because you already made up you mind.


    > We tested multiple files, as simple as ASCII (plain Text) and it missed at
    > least 1/4 of files containing a test string.
    > It doesn't matter twhether it's *string, *string*, or string*, or
    > type:*.txt [teststring]
    >


    Who is we?


    > It just finds things that it likes to, not that actually exist.
    > I started with Internet in the age of Gopher, BBS, and Finger.
    > I don't need to be educated in Googling for answers, I KNOW how toy use
    > search as well as $35-60,000 CAD softwarre.
    > Engineer here.
    >


    Being able to use a CAD program calling yourself an engineer doesn't qualify
    you as any kind of expert using a computer.


    > It just fails with highly technical files, and this is what we use search
    > for. Not for music or pictures. Of Eord docs, I search for more complex
    > things that Win2000, WinXP, etc were finding, not with Vista. Vista's
    > search is FAST... and dumb!


    Just because you refuse to learn how to do something and calling dumb is
    just a reflection on you.
     
  5. Camper

    Camper Guest

    "Mark Levitski" <SS@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:Or19qJ$5JHA.4632@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >I know how to find things on the Web, my friend. That website is a copy of
    >Search's Help file. I know that.
    > Here's a fact however:
    >
    > IT FAILS.
    >
    > We tested multiple files, as simple as ASCII (plain Text) and it missed at
    > least 1/4 of files containing a test string.
    > It doesn't matter twhether it's *string, *string*, or string*, or
    > type:*.txt [teststring]
    >
    > It just finds things that it likes to, not that actually exist.
    > I started with Internet in the age of Gopher, BBS, and Finger.
    > I don't need to be educated in Googling for answers, I KNOW how toy use
    > search as well as $35-60,000 CAD softwarre.
    > Engineer here.


    If you really were an engineer why do you have the need to tell the whole
    world that you are one at least once every day since you have been gracing
    this newsgroup with your presence?
     
  6. Alias

    Alias Guest

    Mark Levitski wrote:
    > BECAUSE TODAY I DIDSCOVRED THIS GARBAGE CAN'T EVEN COPY/MOVE/DELETE
    > LARGE FILES, AND I DO 20-50GB/DAY, THIS I SOUTRAGEOUS.
    >
    > IT'S THE LAST STRAW.
    > SEARCH, APPEARANCE, ETC CAN BE TOLERATED, BUT BUYING A 3D PARTY SOFTWARE
    > TO DO BASIC, I REPEAT BASIC FUNCTION OF OPERATIONG SYSTEM E.G. COPYING A
    > FILE, IS RIDICULOUS BEYOND REASON.
    >
    > YOUR VISTA TAKES AGES TO CALCULATE GODDAMN "TIME REMAINING" AND PROGRESS
    > BAR IS A JOKE, IT SIMPLY LIES.
    > FILES TAKE FOREVER TO COPY, AND IT'S NOT DUE TO AUTOTUNING ACK WINDOW
    > IFR YOU KNOW NETWORKING THEORY, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT i MA REFERRING TO.
    >
    > I AM COPYIN GTO AN EXTERNAL HDD VIA USB2!!!! IT WORKS LIKE WINDOWSXP ON
    > USB1.1 !!!
    >
    > IT'S SLOWER THAN 1960'S CALCULATOR!


    So use XP or Ubuntu or both. Have you checked the file transfer rate
    with Win7?

    Alias
     
  7. BECAUSE TODAY I DIDSCOVRED THIS GARBAGE CAN'T EVEN COPY/MOVE/DELETE LARGE
    FILES, AND I DO 20-50GB/DAY, THIS I SOUTRAGEOUS.

    IT'S THE LAST STRAW.
    SEARCH, APPEARANCE, ETC CAN BE TOLERATED, BUT BUYING A 3D PARTY SOFTWARE TO
    DO BASIC, I REPEAT BASIC FUNCTION OF OPERATIONG SYSTEM E.G. COPYING A FILE,
    IS RIDICULOUS BEYOND REASON.

    YOUR VISTA TAKES AGES TO CALCULATE GODDAMN "TIME REMAINING" AND PROGRESS BAR
    IS A JOKE, IT SIMPLY LIES.
    FILES TAKE FOREVER TO COPY, AND IT'S NOT DUE TO AUTOTUNING ACK WINDOW IFR
    YOU KNOW NETWORKING THEORY, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT i MA REFERRING TO.

    I AM COPYIN GTO AN EXTERNAL HDD VIA USB2!!!! IT WORKS LIKE WINDOWSXP ON
    USB1.1 !!!

    IT'S SLOWER THAN 1960'S CALCULATOR!
     
  8. Not worng. you;re wrong.
    Vista search algorithm fails with Search file contents for a test string.

    More over, the MORONIC interface requires user to go thru shebang of search
    by filename, only AFTER that you're allowed to do file contents search.
    You don't think it's a moronic "improvement" over WindowsXP or a new
    elaborate method to waste busienss user's time?

    Whether you set "by filename only" or "both filename & contents), it still
    goes thru tedious filenam search first.
    It's very fast, and it misses targets.

    It's like cheap Chnese AK47, there's a reason it costs $400 less than
    Russian-made rfile. It's made for speed, not quality, and in the end the
    speed is useless. As good as driving 90mph on 5th avenue in Manhattan, NY.
    Stupid. Search doesn;t work for special quesries, but aside from that we
    now have issues copying multiple (30-100) files totalling several
    Gigabytes - progress bar i slying, "calculating tiem remaining" status
    message is a circus (progressbar zooming left & right and warning me 17 days
    remaining to copy 4GB), and sometimes hangs.
    Filecopy over the Network is worse than suicide.
     
  9. I create a query, for example:

    type:*.txt teststring
    type:*.txt *teststring
    type:*.txt *teststring*
    type:*.txt teststring*

    And I let it run really long.

    It persistently misses a few files at random, sometimes one, sometimes
    another file is missed which I KNOW contaian that string.

    repeat this in WidnowsXP and it finds all files.

    Missing just one file can be catastrophic if you woirk for FBI, national
    security, etc.
    For this reason I am using MythicSoft 'FileLocatorPro", and in my entire
    lifetime it's the first time I was forced to buy 3d party software for what
    was a working part of Operating System... until Vista.

    Also filecopy of multiple files totalling several Gigabytes is painful, and
    buggy. Progress Bar is such a lying indicator that I must close my eyes to
    avoid irritation.
     
  10. Camper

    Camper Guest

    "Mark Levitski" <SS@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
    news:uYzw8JJ6JHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > BECAUSE TODAY I DIDSCOVRED THIS GARBAGE CAN'T EVEN COPY/MOVE/DELETE LARGE
    > FILES, AND I DO 20-50GB/DAY, THIS I SOUTRAGEOUS.
    >
    > IT'S THE LAST STRAW.
    > SEARCH, APPEARANCE, ETC CAN BE TOLERATED, BUT BUYING A 3D PARTY SOFTWARE
    > TO DO BASIC, I REPEAT BASIC FUNCTION OF OPERATIONG SYSTEM E.G. COPYING A
    > FILE, IS RIDICULOUS BEYOND REASON.
    >
    > YOUR VISTA TAKES AGES TO CALCULATE GODDAMN "TIME REMAINING" AND PROGRESS
    > BAR IS A JOKE, IT SIMPLY LIES.
    > FILES TAKE FOREVER TO COPY, AND IT'S NOT DUE TO AUTOTUNING ACK WINDOW IFR
    > YOU KNOW NETWORKING THEORY, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT i MA REFERRING TO.
    >
    > I AM COPYIN GTO AN EXTERNAL HDD VIA USB2!!!! IT WORKS LIKE WINDOWSXP ON
    > USB1.1 !!!
    >
    > IT'S SLOWER THAN 1960'S CALCULATOR!


    In the 60s the common calculator was a slide ruler. But of course you were
    not born then.
     
  11. Dave

    Dave Guest

    The first calculator I ever saw was a Wang desktop at college in 1971.
    I bought my first handheld calculator, a Sears 4 function for $100 in 1972.
    Bought my first computer (TRS 80) in 1975. It used a cassette tape recorder
    for storage.

    Yeah, Mark's seen it all.... except for a spell checker.




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    "Camper" <bruce@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:OkQnp2N6JHA.480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Mark Levitski" <SS@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
    > news:uYzw8JJ6JHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >> BECAUSE TODAY I DIDSCOVRED THIS GARBAGE CAN'T EVEN COPY/MOVE/DELETE LARGE
    >> FILES, AND I DO 20-50GB/DAY, THIS I SOUTRAGEOUS.
    >>
    >> IT'S THE LAST STRAW.
    >> SEARCH, APPEARANCE, ETC CAN BE TOLERATED, BUT BUYING A 3D PARTY SOFTWARE
    >> TO DO BASIC, I REPEAT BASIC FUNCTION OF OPERATIONG SYSTEM E.G. COPYING A
    >> FILE, IS RIDICULOUS BEYOND REASON.
    >>
    >> YOUR VISTA TAKES AGES TO CALCULATE GODDAMN "TIME REMAINING" AND PROGRESS
    >> BAR IS A JOKE, IT SIMPLY LIES.
    >> FILES TAKE FOREVER TO COPY, AND IT'S NOT DUE TO AUTOTUNING ACK WINDOW IFR
    >> YOU KNOW NETWORKING THEORY, YOU WILL KNOW WHAT i MA REFERRING TO.
    >>
    >> I AM COPYIN GTO AN EXTERNAL HDD VIA USB2!!!! IT WORKS LIKE WINDOWSXP ON
    >> USB1.1 !!!
    >>
    >> IT'S SLOWER THAN 1960'S CALCULATOR!

    >
    > In the 60s the common calculator was a slide ruler. But of course you
    > were not born then.
     
  12. Retroman

    Retroman Guest

    Re: Re: I got some encouRaging results with Vista

    On Mon, 8 Jun 2009 22:20:01 -0500, "Mark Levitski" <SS@nyc.rr.com> wrote:

    >I create a query, for example:
    >
    >type:*.txt teststring
    >type:*.txt *teststring
    >type:*.txt *teststring*
    >type:*.txt teststring*
    >
    >And I let it run really long.
    >
    >It persistently misses a few files at random, sometimes one, sometimes
    >another file is missed which I KNOW contaian that string.


    Mark,
    Your queries fail because the syntax is wrong. For one thing, the "type"
    property does not refer to file extensions. In addition wild cards are
    not needed if "teststring" is a word. Use the "ext" property to return
    ..txt files, for example:

    textstring ext:txt

    Search syntax has changed greatly, as described here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/desktopsearch/technicalresources/advquery.mspx

    Doug M. in NJ
     
  13. I built SIncalir ZXspectrum around Z80A microprocessor bootlegged from
    Western Europe, since Soviet microprocessor at the time (MK80) was a poor
    copy of Intel8080, it was not in favor for gaming.

    Yes I also was a teenager interestedin gaming (you see me blasting Vista
    exactly for the opposite - too much catering to gaming/media public, not
    busienss).
    Anyways, it features a whopping 32 KILOBYTE memory and rumors were that some
    people managed to install a controlleer for 64KB.
    64KB! Popular magazines were still publishing schematics and DYI articles
    about 16KB PCB boards attached to a acssette recorder as nonvolatile storage
    and TV as monitor, and here we got 32KB and 64KB coming up.

    Imagine, 32Kilobyte memory? What more can you wish for?!?
    I programmed in Basic a solution to Fourier series problem in college, I got
    a D for that course regardless. Nobody cared for computers, they wanted an
    analytical solution, not numerical analysis.

    I finally burned down my TV audio by soldering audio-out from SinclairZX80
    into my TV soundchip. There were already sound IC's at the time, by the
    way.
    I soldered it to an IC pin found on schematics. Schematics were ALWAYS
    enclosed with electronic goods at the time (now it's a secret), or maybe
    because it was in a communist country where nobody cared about copyrights or
    getting rich by copying schematics...

    My first calculator was a Soviet copy of American texas Instruments..
    When it come sto computers & electronics, Soviets coul donly copy. They
    were betetr in optics, Space, Mechanical design, but electronics/ecomputers
    & roboticis for some reason was best in the West and East Asia.

    Still is. Russians still are the best in Space and heavy machinery,
    mechanics, but computers are all American, Asian.
     

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