Here are some ways to repair your W10!

Hi I'm a fairly new W10 user and I'm learning new things all the time. I'm sure you old geeks have a lot of this all figured out. I hope this helps all you new w10 users. I know there are members here that don't like W10. This is for the members that have upgraded to W10


I'm sure you all have figured out that W10 does not have a recovery partition. The big dogs at MS think they have provided you with all the options you will need to get your PC up and running again. That may be true, but can you get to those options?

They kept the restore to a earlier time. Not real thrilled with that, but some times it works. They have a feature to create a image of your OS. It's OK, but I prefer Macrium Reflect for creating Images. They have a Refresh/Reset. I guess it works, but I haven't tried it yet. You are given the option to create rescue media that can be used to boot into the repair mode if you can't get you PC to boot into windows. You really need to create one of those.

Some of you smart people will discover that W10 removed the F8 option that allows you to inter into the safe mode. I have a link for that and will attach it later. MS allows you to create a Media Creation tool and that can be a life savor for those that never learn to create back up images of their OS. The MCT can be used to do a repair restore, which is supposed to restore W10 and all your programs. I will attach a link for that. There are a bunch of options that can get you back up and running in W10, but the best option you will ever have is a back up image of your OS created by a 3rd party program. Here are some links that I have found that will help your W10 experience be a little better.

All you Geeks please add to this thread and comment on my attempt to help members with W10.

There may come a time you need to boot into safe mode. The attached link will restore the option that MS took away. You can also put the option back to default with that link!

PS The upgrade should have left your back to factory partition in place and you might want to use that some day if things get really tough. I hope you didn't delete it. If your a smart user, you will learn how to create back up images with a 3rd party program and you won't need any of the above advise. I hope this helps someone and I'm sure the old dogs here can make this thread a lot better. I do want to make a difference here. Some times I win; some times I lose, but I will always give it my best shot.
I'm going to look around the forum now and get reacquainted with how things work. I hope some of these links help with W10 . Great to be back with old friends and new friends.
donetao!

Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade - Windows 10 Forums

Advanced Startup Options - Boot to in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums

In place Upgrade


http://www.windows10forums.com/artic...e-boot-menu.8/

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...recovery-drive

 

Nice thanks for the info! Yeah I did notice that the option was taken away for safe mode when I first started using Windows 10 but like you I searched for the fix. This is good information indeed for those that are using windows 10.

 

When I restart windows, I have three options. I can boot into Windows, I can boot into Macrium Reflect, and I can boot into safe (F8)mode. It takes a couple extra seconds for that option, but some day I will glad I had them. I have tried them all and they all work!
I like W10. I liked W7. I have images of W7 that I can restore back to and I have images of W10

 

That is really interesting Gary and some great info. I believe it was not Microsoft so much as the UEFI Bios that ruined the F8 recovery windows but if you go settings, backup and recovery (I believe) and then you can choose to boot options and within that grup would be safe mode etc...I don't currently have a Win 10 pc so I cannot prove that but I believe it is there but your command wouold be much easier.

Don't you think it would be a better idea to suggest saving "the Windows Old" folder created on the install of Windows to another hard drive external or whatever? One reason I say that is it is usually a huge unwieldy folder if there was another OS installed over and I have seen deleting that folder really speeds up a system.

 

Hi Rich! I think MS disabled the F8 on purpose and here's the reason!
Windows 10 offers fantastic boot times compared to some earlier operating systems, but part of the reason for this faster boot is due to removing the window of opportunity to access the F8 boot menu. This boot options menu allows you to enter safe mode or access other recovery tools that would otherwise only be available after booting in to Windows or using recovery media (i.e the install disc).

If you think that you may need to enter safe mode when Windows is no longer able to boot, you can sacrifice a couple of seconds at boot and enable the F8 safe mode menu.
Sorry friend I don't know about the Windows Old folder. I didn't get one when I up dated with the Media Creation Tool. I have heard about the folder but I have never seen it. W10 up graded well for me the only program I had to reinstall was Speccy A coupleof other minor things, but I can't remember what they were at the moment.

 

I think there is a new version of Speccy now.
http://techraze.com/download-ccleaner-speccy-windows-10-full-offline-installer

 

Mine is working fine, but will give your link a look! Thanks!

 

Remove the start in safe mode option to speed boot times.... Really that two seconds is killing me. Seems like a dumb move on MS part but I can understand the need for fast boot times. I understand MS is contending with phones and tablets which have almost zero boot times but I hope they keep in mind that the PC is a different animal.

 

Two seconds doesn't bother this old man. I like the idea that I can get into safe mode with F8. There are a lot of ways to fix problems in the safe mode. Some times MS doesn't have a clue. You can get into safe mode if you can boot into windows, but that's not always possible. MS needs to start listening to their users and not so much to their high paid staff IMHO

 

That you have me in total agreement. They are so good at convincing you they are listening until the do the thing they said would resolve that and everything is different and still their way!

 

My guess would be that they want you to use msconfig to get into safe boot but I don't run Win 10 so I'm not 100% on that.

 

Hi bringIT! Thanks for your reply. There are many ways to get into the safe mode if you can boot into windows, but that is not always possible.
PS! Are you thinking about up grading to W10?
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2304-safe-mode-start-windows-10-a.html

 

No its Windows that is causing this between the UEFI Bios and Secure Boot you have to schedule a visit to safe mode.

 

I have no idea what you just said Rich?

 

The idea began in Windows 8 core, which was extended to 8.1 and Windows 10 was that the UEFI bios coupled with Secure Boot would make Windows a safer environment and allow it to boot quicker. One of the side affects of that was the end of easy F8 environment. Now you have to schedule it before you shutdown or restart.

 

OK Got it! You can also use my link to enable it and it will only cost you another second or two on restart. That's not a problem for me.
How do you schedule it before shutdown? I like my F8 option and I'm not going to give it up!

 

In Win 8 I believe there are two ways to schedule a safe boot. One way is using advanced start-up. This is located by going to charms ->Settings --> Change PC settings --> Update and recovery --> Recovery --> Advanced start-up.

The other way is using Msconfig. On the boot tab of Msconfig there is an option for safe boot.

 

Hi Gimbo! Yes sir. I'm aware of those ways to boot into safe mode, but you have to boot into windows first and that isn't always possible. I think there is another way to get into safe mode. I'll have to search for it. Leave my F8 alone MS. There are so many tools that are available in the safe mode and I want to be able to get there. Taking away my ability to get into safe mode to save a couple seconds boot up time don't cut it with me. Leave my damn F8 alone MS and start asking your users about these things before you let you over paid staff make changes to Windows OS. The safe mode is the best trouble shooting feature that MS ever created and now in W10 they disable it on start up. Well I have mine enabled MS and that's the way I want it!

 

Gimbo's first one is the way and I imagine the Msconfig is available also but at the moment I don't have a Windwos 10 pc to play with to check that.

 

Guys I'm aware of all the ways to get into safe mode if you can boot into windows. I'm saying it's not always possible to boot into windows to get to safe mode. I don't know how to make this any plainer!
OK here's another way to boot into RE with W10!
Apparently W10 will boot to recovery after 2 consecutive unexpected shutdowns, so boot, turn off the power, repeat, boot should now be RE.
Have I convinced anyone yet that I understand safe mode very well. It's my favorite trouble shooting tool. Here I'll let Shawn Brink Explain it. He does it much better then I can. Maybe you don't need the F8 option in W10, but I'm keeping my F8 enabled!
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/2...dows-10-a.html
http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/22455-f8-advanced-boot-options-enable-disable-windows-10-a.html