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Disabing a Service

Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by JamesJ, Jun 19, 2009.

  1. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    If one disables a service in Administration Tools, is it normal for the
    service to
    still show up in task manger?

    Thanks,
    James
     
  2. "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >If one disables a service in Administration Tools, is it normal for the
    >service to
    >still show up in task manger?
    >
    >Thanks,
    >James <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    No. But you need to be more specific... like what is the service that
    you disabled?
     
  3. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    I disabled a service I'm trying to get information on but have been
    unsuccessful
    getting any info on it at all:
    AGCoreService
    I noticed even though it is disabled now, it still shows up in Task
    Manager's Services tab as Stopped.

    James

    "Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    news:vton35dgu8d21tcso2ae8lv6dchjjkbg4h@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>If one disables a service in Administration Tools, is it normal for the
    >>service to
    >>still show up in task manger?
    >>
    >>Thanks,
    >>James<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > No. But you need to be more specific... like what is the service that
    > you disabled? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    It shows in Task Manager's Services tab. I disabled it from Administrative
    Tools|Services
    and it remained disabled

    James

    "JEWboy" <Nojunkmetalblade@nojunkprodigy.net> wrote in message
    news:uwPuzDR8JHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > In Taskmanager where? It should not be amongst running processes under
    > "processes" tab, but it iwll appear amongst services under services tab,
    > obviously.
    >
    > There's a number of services which resist disabling, e.g. in
    > WindowsVista - Task Scheduler. The only way for me to kill it was to
    > delet eALL tasks under each folder, and delete folders, etc - took me 30
    > minutes, I could do dissabliung with one click in WindowsXp by stopping
    > Task Scheduler from its control applet. Not anymore, now it's a pain <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. James,
    apart from disabling the service, you must also stop it. Disabling means
    that the service will not start automatically on the next reboot. However
    some services like antivirus apps have anti tamper protection that will not
    allow the service to be disabled in this way. Although disabled, the service
    will still show in services.msc. That's normal. The only way to remove it
    from services.msc console is to uninstall the application that installed
    this service.


    "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    news:%23ulh6SR8JHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > It shows in Task Manager's Services tab. I disabled it from
    > Administrative Tools|Services
    > and it remained disabled
    >
    > James
    >
    > "JEWboy" <Nojunkmetalblade@nojunkprodigy.net> wrote in message
    > news:uwPuzDR8JHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> In Taskmanager where? It should not be amongst running processes under
    >> "processes" tab, but it iwll appear amongst services under services tab,
    >> obviously.
    >>
    >> There's a number of services which resist disabling, e.g. in
    >> WindowsVista - Task Scheduler. The only way for me to kill it was to
    >> delet eALL tasks under each folder, and delete folders, etc - took me 30
    >> minutes, I could do dissabliung with one click in WindowsXp by stopping
    >> Task Scheduler from its control applet. Not anymore, now it's a pain<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  6. Malke

    Malke Guest

    JamesJ wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I disabled a service I'm trying to get information on but have been
    > unsuccessful
    > getting any info on it at all:
    > AGCoreService
    > I noticed even though it is disabled now, it still shows up in Task
    > Manager's Services tab as Stopped.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Googling around tells me that agicoreservice.exe belongs to C:\Program
    Files\AGI. Do you have this entry? If yes, please see if you can get any
    clues as to what AGI is from looking in its Program Folder.

    If one disables a service it should not show up in Task Manager. Are you
    sure your computer is clean?



    Malke
    --
    MS-MVP
    Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
     
  7. JEWboy

    JEWboy Guest

    In Taskmanager where? It should not be amongst running processes under
    "processes" tab, but it iwll appear amongst services under services tab,
    obviously.

    There's a number of services which resist disabling, e.g. in WindowsVista -
    Task Scheduler. The only way for me to kill it was to delet eALL tasks
    under each folder, and delete folders, etc - took me 30 minutes, I could do
    dissabliung with one click in WindowsXp by stopping Task Scheduler from its
    control applet. Not anymore, now it's a pain
     
  8. "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I disabled a service I'm trying to get information on but have been
    >unsuccessful
    >getting any info on it at all:
    >AGCoreService
    >I noticed even though it is disabled now, it still shows up in Task
    >Manager's Services tab as Stopped.
    >
    >James<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    DUH!!!!

    All stopped services show up as "stopped" in Task Manager.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    >"Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    >news:vton35dgu8d21tcso2ae8lv6dchjjkbg4h@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>If one disables a service in Administration Tools, is it normal for the
    >>>service to
    >>>still show up in task manger?
    >>>
    >>>Thanks,
    >>>James<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> No. But you need to be more specific... like what is the service that
    >> you disabled? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  9. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    Got it.

    Thanks,
    James

    "Dusko Savatovic" <nospam.savatovic@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:eo4uJnR8JHA.1740@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > James,
    > apart from disabling the service, you must also stop it. Disabling means
    > that the service will not start automatically on the next reboot. However
    > some services like antivirus apps have anti tamper protection that will
    > not allow the service to be disabled in this way. Although disabled, the
    > service will still show in services.msc. That's normal. The only way to
    > remove it from services.msc console is to uninstall the application that
    > installed this service.
    >
    >
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote in message
    > news:%23ulh6SR8JHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> It shows in Task Manager's Services tab. I disabled it from
    >> Administrative Tools|Services
    >> and it remained disabled
    >>
    >> James
    >>
    >> "JEWboy" <Nojunkmetalblade@nojunkprodigy.net> wrote in message
    >> news:uwPuzDR8JHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> In Taskmanager where? It should not be amongst running processes under
    >>> "processes" tab, but it iwll appear amongst services under services tab,
    >>> obviously.
    >>>
    >>> There's a number of services which resist disabling, e.g. in
    >>> WindowsVista - Task Scheduler. The only way for me to kill it was to
    >>> delet eALL tasks under each folder, and delete folders, etc - took me
    >>> 30 minutes, I could do dissabliung with one click in WindowsXp by
    >>> stopping Task Scheduler from its control applet. Not anymore, now it's
    >>> a pain<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  10. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    I have another post about this in ....Security. The files there tell me
    nothing.

    James

    "Malke" <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:%23FQIlqR8JHA.2952@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > JamesJ wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I disabled a service I'm trying to get information on but have been
    >> unsuccessful
    >> getting any info on it at all:
    >> AGCoreService
    >> I noticed even though it is disabled now, it still shows up in Task
    >> Manager's Services tab as Stopped.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Googling around tells me that agicoreservice.exe belongs to C:program
    > FilesAGI. Do you have this entry? If yes, please see if you can get any
    > clues as to what AGI is from looking in its Program Folder.
    >
    > If one disables a service it should not show up in Task Manager. Are you
    > sure your computer is clean?
    >
    >
    >
    > Malke
    > --
    > MS-MVP
    > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
    >

    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  11. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    I'm disabling the service not mealy stopping it.
    If I were stopping the service I would have said so in my original post.

    "Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    news:c81o359thk39i6pa3ib03uuh0lfcorofc1@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>I disabled a service I'm trying to get information on but have been
    >>unsuccessful
    >>getting any info on it at all:
    >>AGCoreService
    >>I noticed even though it is disabled now, it still shows up in Task
    >>Manager's Services tab as Stopped.
    >>
    >>James<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > DUH!!!!
    >
    > All stopped services show up as "stopped" in Task Manager.
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >>"Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    >>news:vton35dgu8d21tcso2ae8lv6dchjjkbg4h@4ax.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>If one disables a service in Administration Tools, is it normal for the
    >>>>service to
    >>>>still show up in task manger?
    >>>>
    >>>>Thanks,
    >>>>James
    >>>
    >>> No. But you need to be more specific... like what is the service that
    >>> you disabled? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  12. "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I'm disabling the service not mealy stopping it.
    >If I were stopping the service I would have said so in my original post.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You're an idiot. You also have to stop it.
     
  13. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    You can't simply disable it f*&^$head?
    I disabled it and it shows as being stopped.

    "Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    news:9i8o35l7r3ok6dqm461u6unn56129gsdcc@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>I'm disabling the service not mealy stopping it.
    >>If I were stopping the service I would have said so in my original post.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You're an idiot. You also have to stop it. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  14. Doesn't this Registry entry disable the Task Scheduler in Vista?

    ---------------------------

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Schedule]
    "Start"=dword:00000001

    ----------------------------


    "JEWboy" <Nojunkmetalblade@nojunkprodigy.net> wrote in message
    news:uwPuzDR8JHA.2788@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > In Taskmanager where? It should not be amongst running processes under
    > "processes" tab, but it iwll appear amongst services under services tab,
    > obviously.
    >
    > There's a number of services which resist disabling, e.g. in
    > WindowsVista - Task Scheduler. The only way for me to kill it was to
    > delet eALL tasks under each folder, and delete folders, etc - took me 30
    > minutes, I could do dissabliung with one click in WindowsXp by stopping
    > Task Scheduler from its control applet. Not anymore, now it's a pain <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  15. Charlie Tame

    Charlie Tame Guest

    JamesJ wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > You can't simply disable it f*&^$head?
    > I disabled it and it shows as being stopped.
    >
    > "Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:9i8o35l7r3ok6dqm461u6unn56129gsdcc@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I'm disabling the service not mealy stopping it.
    >>> If I were stopping the service I would have said so in my original post.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> You're an idiot. You also have to stop it. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    James, in XP disabling the RPC (I think it's that one, long time ago)
    service will trash the machine (It can be recovered but only with a lot
    of messing around). I mention this because Disabling may result in your
    losing the ability to re-enable it. Setting a service to start manually
    on the other hand will allow the service to be restarted by another part
    of the OS it is becomes needed.

    I do not know if anything like this applies to Vista, but my advice for
    the future would be to either try it on an less important machine or
    else google for "Disabling the XXX service" in case there are any hidden
    disasters waiting for you.

    I would think that all services installed "Should" show up whether
    running or not together with their status, seems to me this would be a
    good thing.
     
  16. JamesJ

    JamesJ Guest

    The service in question is AGCoreServices. I did google it
    and found some things about it enough to tell me it doesn't appear to
    be Vista service, as far as I can tell.
    I don't particularly like disabling services unless I'm sure I don't need
    them.
    But, in Vista I went to Administrative Tools|Services and right clicked the
    service
    and select properties where I was able to disable it.
    But thanks, I believe the answer to my question is that all services should
    show up in
    task manager whether disabled or not.

    Thanks,
    James


    "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
    news:uaqgK5n8JHA.1492@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > JamesJ wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> You can't simply disable it f*&^$head?
    >> I disabled it and it shows as being stopped.
    >>
    >> "Manny Weisbord" <mannyweisbord@crimest.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:9i8o35l7r3ok6dqm461u6unn56129gsdcc@4ax.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunner.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> I'm disabling the service not mealy stopping it.
    >>>> If I were stopping the service I would have said so in my original
    >>>> post.
    >>>
    >>> You're an idiot. You also have to stop it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > James, in XP disabling the RPC (I think it's that one, long time ago)
    > service will trash the machine (It can be recovered but only with a lot of
    > messing around). I mention this because Disabling may result in your
    > losing the ability to re-enable it. Setting a service to start manually on
    > the other hand will allow the service to be restarted by another part of
    > the OS it is becomes needed.
    >
    > I do not know if anything like this applies to Vista, but my advice for
    > the future would be to either try it on an less important machine or else
    > google for "Disabling the XXX service" in case there are any hidden
    > disasters waiting for you.
    >
    > I would think that all services installed "Should" show up whether running
    > or not together with their status, seems to me this would be a good thing. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     

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