CPU Temperature

Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom
quad core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed on it.
OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the
exception that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on
Vista.On Vista it idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if
anyone else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My
bios to arrive at these temperatures.
I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
never realized how much hotter AMD runs.

 

50-C ( 122-F ) seems fine. I have a C2D e6600 and it idles at 50-C.
A lot of times it's the amount of Thermal Paste ( or Pad ) and how the
Heat Spreader contacts the fan assembly that makes a big difference.
Not sure why your setup has XP higher, generally I've always seen a
higher CPU reading using Vista. The other factor is the Nanometer
spacing of the CPUs. I think Intel is at 45-nm and AMD is still using
a wider spacing ( 65-nm ) in it's chip fabrication.

"Dino" <dino@nospam.none> wrote in message
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> Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom quad
> core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed on it.
> OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
> Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the exception
> that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on Vista.On Vista it
> idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
> I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if anyone
> else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My bios to
> arrive at these temperatures.
> I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
> never realized how much hotter AMD runs. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Have you downloaded the driver for XP?



"Dino" <dino@nospam.none> wrote in message
news:eRKVWSrkIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom quad
> core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed on it.
> OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
> Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the exception
> that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on Vista.On Vista it
> idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
> I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if anyone
> else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My bios to
> arrive at these temperatures.
> I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
> never realized how much hotter AMD runs. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

John Barnes wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Have you downloaded the driver for XP?
>
>
>
>
> "Dino" <dino@nospam.none> wrote in message
> news:eRKVWSrkIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom
>> quad core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed
>> on it.
>> OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought
>> another Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with
>> the exception that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on
>> Vista.On Vista it idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
>> I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if
>> anyone else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My
>> bios to arrive at these temperatures.
>> I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
>> never realized how much hotter AMD runs. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
I downloaded that driver right after install,but thanks anyhow for
trying to help.

 

"Dino" <dino@nospam.none> wrote in message
news:eRKVWSrkIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom quad
> core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed on it.
> OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
> Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the exception
> that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on Vista.On Vista it
> idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
> I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if anyone
> else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My bios to
> arrive at these temperatures.
> I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
> never realized how much hotter AMD runs.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Seems about right. 50C is nothing to be worried about at all. You are well
with in spec.

AMD isn't really hotter. In fact a few watts cooler. The new quad CPUs
generally run around just under 100 watts. Not like a 35 watt AMX X2 or 75
watt P4.

But one has to like quad core, sure has kick. Download, AV, surf, run MqSQL
crazy, less impact. Both AMD and Intel quad cores are good choices. But
for dual core, AMD I like. It bounces back and forth.

Part of the reason probably is that XP perhaps is not power conserving as
much as Vista. But it is also one of the reasons why XP is faster too, it
does not have to wake-up to get going in a hurry.

I hear you on Vista, just haven't succumb to buying a second copy of the OS
in XP variety yet.

 

So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc ( Seagate
Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I might
add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
without a load. That is one damn hot CPU I was recommended
Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the hardware
resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
. I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
anyone knows WTF over. Thanx


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you can always check task manager to see what is causing the cpu to run so much and get hot.


not sure what program you use to check temps, but speed fan is a very good one.


mikeyhsd@lamparty.net



"collapse" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:290ca13a5c838eea07e5a4ed5bb71581@nntp-gateway.com...

So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc ( Seagate
Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I might
add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
without a load. That is one damn hot CPU I was recommended
Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the hardware
resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
. I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
anyone knows WTF over. Thanx


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My CPU is a constant 40C and my motherboard is 34C . I have no dust bunnies and my
server is in a well ventilated spot with both side covers off.

Overheating can be caused by dust bunnies,computer placed in an area where there is
no air circulation Under Desk which is a No No,Junk piled around computer,and of
course the back of computer against a wall which completely blocks circulation

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Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"collapse" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
> MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc ( Seagate
> Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I might
> add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
> without a load. That is one damn hot CPU I was recommended
> Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
> Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the hardware
> resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
> . I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
> anyone knows WTF over. Thanx
>
>
> --
> collapse <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"collapse" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
> MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc ( Seagate
> Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I might
> add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
> without a load. That is one damn hot CPU I was recommended
> Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
> Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the hardware
> resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
> . I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
> anyone knows WTF over. Thanx
>
>
> --
> collapse<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I thought it was hot for a CPU too at first, but searching Google I found
that this is normal for AMD Turion x2 RM-72.



You have to keep in mind the temperature sensor is located in different
places on Intel and AMD.

It maybe AMD places theirs closer to the area generating heat then Intel.
At least, that is what it seems to me.

 

Mike, that is just the thing. My tasks & services have all been gone
through and over looked and slimmed both down. Firefox being the
heaviest app running on the user level while most everything else is
system. Even so, these processes are not much different than what
normally runs in Vista, which brings me and some others who have helped
to the boggle. Unless there is a process that has a memory leak, or
using unnecessary system resources, I am at a loss. Again, this notebook
was designed for Vista, not XP. But would it really make that much of a
difference? Here is a screen of the processes, Pretty slimmed down ,
Firefox taking most of the system resources.

[image: Peter, I have taken this unit apa...ish C in XP and 60 C in Vista. -- collapse

 

Dino;667399 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom
> quad core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed
> on it.
> OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
> Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the
> exception that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on
> Vista.On Vista it idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
> I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if
> anyone else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My
> bios to arrive at these temperatures.
> I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
> never realized how much hotter AMD runs.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


The AMD's always ran a little warmer. You did not specify the model,
but the range for Phenom quads is 90 to 140 watts - so pretty warm. But
at 50C I would not worry. That is far below an acceptable maximum of
about 75C.


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whs

 

Tae Song;1157702 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "collapse" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message
> news:290ca13a5c838eea07e5a4ed5bb71581@newsgroup-gateway.com...> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > >
> > > So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
> > > MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc (<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > Seagate<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > might<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
> > > without a load. That is one damn hot CPU I was recommended
> > > Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
> > > Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> > hardware<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
> > > . I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
> > > anyone knows WTF over. Thanx
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > collapse > > I thought it was hot for a CPU too at first, but searching Google I<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> found
> that this is normal for AMD Turion x2 RM-72.
>
> 'Gateway MD2601 CPU heating issue? - Yahoo! Answers'
> ()
>
> You have to keep in mind the temperature sensor is located in
> different
> places on Intel and AMD.
>
> It maybe AMD places theirs closer to the area generating heat then
> Intel.
> At least, that is what it seems to me.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

My Yahoo post. I thought I'd take a shot and see what came up. As
technical as the answer was, the fact that everyone forgets is that in
Vista, this CPU runs at a cool 60C where as in XP, I am 80Cish. If it
was a bit higher, I could understand that. But 20+ C degrees? That is
alot. The system has shutdownfrom temperature failsafe before adding
thermal grease ( Arctic Silver ), which has helped, butthe fact remains
this system runs hot with XP.

Here is the specs from CPU World: 'AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile technology
RM-72 - TMRM72DAM22GG'
()


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"collapse" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Tae Song;1157702 Wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "collapse" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:290ca13a5c838eea07e5a4ed5bb71581@newsgroup-gateway.com...> > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> > >
>> > > So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
>> > > MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc (
>> > Seagate
>> > > Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I
>> > might
>> > > add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
>> > > without a load. That is one damn hot CPU I was recommended
>> > > Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
>> > > Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the
>> > hardware
>> > > resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
>> > > . I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
>> > > anyone knows WTF over. Thanx
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > collapse > > I thought it was hot for a CPU too at first, but
>> > > searching Google I<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> found
>> that this is normal for AMD Turion x2 RM-72.
>>
>> 'Gateway MD2601 CPU heating issue? - Yahoo! Answers'
>> ()
>>
>> You have to keep in mind the temperature sensor is located in
>> different
>> places on Intel and AMD.
>>
>> It maybe AMD places theirs closer to the area generating heat then
>> Intel.
>> At least, that is what it seems to me.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> My Yahoo post. I thought I'd take a shot and see what came up. As
> technical as the answer was, the fact that everyone forgets is that in
> Vista, this CPU runs at a cool 60C where as in XP, I am 80Cish. If it
> was a bit higher, I could understand that. But 20+ C degrees? That is
> alot. The system has shutdownfrom temperature failsafe before adding
> thermal grease ( Arctic Silver ), which has helped, butthe fact remains
> this system runs hot with XP.
>
> Here is the specs from CPU World: 'AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile technology
> RM-72 - TMRM72DAM22GG'
> ()
>
>
> --
> collapse<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


What are you using to gauge the temperature?

 

You wanna know "WTF"?
I tell you what:

Next time use INTEL microprocessor, not AMD.

 

"STAN STARINSKI" <Chyna@stealsUSJobsPatentsSoftwareMusicVideo> wrote in
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> You wanna know "WTF"?
> I tell you what:
>
> Next time use INTEL microprocessor, not AMD.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Next time change your clock and then shove your head back in your ass where
it belongs. Just FYI.