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Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by Dino, Mar 30, 2008.

  1. Dino

    Dino Guest

    Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom
    quad core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed on it.
    OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
    Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the
    exception that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on
    Vista.On Vista it idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
    I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if
    anyone else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My
    bios to arrive at these temperatures.
    I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
    never realized how much hotter AMD runs.
     
  2. R. McCarty

    R. McCarty Guest

    50-C ( 122-F ) seems fine. I have a C2D e6600 and it idles at 50-C.
    A lot of times it's the amount of Thermal Paste ( or Pad ) and how the
    Heat Spreader contacts the fan assembly that makes a big difference.
    Not sure why your setup has XP higher, generally I've always seen a
    higher CPU reading using Vista. The other factor is the Nanometer
    spacing of the CPUs. I think Intel is at 45-nm and AMD is still using
    a wider spacing ( 65-nm ) in it's chip fabrication.

    "Dino" <dino@nospam.none> wrote in message
    news:eRKVWSrkIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom quad
    > core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed on it.
    > OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
    > Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the exception
    > that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on Vista.On Vista it
    > idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
    > I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if anyone
    > else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My bios to
    > arrive at these temperatures.
    > I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
    > never realized how much hotter AMD runs. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. John Barnes

    John Barnes Guest

  4. Dino

    Dino Guest

  5. Canuck57

    Canuck57 Guest

    "Dino" <dino@nospam.none> wrote in message
    news:eRKVWSrkIHA.748@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom quad
    > core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed on it.
    > OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
    > Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the exception
    > that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on Vista.On Vista it
    > idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
    > I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if anyone
    > else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My bios to
    > arrive at these temperatures.
    > I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
    > never realized how much hotter AMD runs.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Seems about right. 50C is nothing to be worried about at all. You are well
    with in spec.

    AMD isn't really hotter. In fact a few watts cooler. The new quad CPUs
    generally run around just under 100 watts. Not like a 35 watt AMX X2 or 75
    watt P4.

    But one has to like quad core, sure has kick. Download, AV, surf, run MqSQL
    crazy, less impact. Both AMD and Intel quad cores are good choices. But
    for dual core, AMD I like. It bounces back and forth.

    Part of the reason probably is that XP perhaps is not power conserving as
    much as Vista. But it is also one of the reasons why XP is faster too, it
    does not have to wake-up to get going in a hurry.

    I hear you on Vista, just haven't succumb to buying a second copy of the OS
    in XP variety yet.
     
  6. collapse

    collapse Guest

    So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
    MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc ( Seagate
    Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I might
    add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
    without a load. That is one damn hot CPU :eek: I was recommended
    Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
    Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the hardware
    resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
    :cry:. I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
    anyone knows WTF over. Thanx [​IMG]


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    collapse
     
  7. mikeyhsd

    mikeyhsd Guest

    you can always check task manager to see what is causing the cpu to run so much and get hot.


    not sure what program you use to check temps, but speed fan is a very good one.


    mikeyhsd@lamparty.net



    "collapse" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:290ca13a5c838eea07e5a4ed5bb71581@nntp-gateway.com...

    So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
    MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc ( Seagate
    Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I might
    add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
    without a load. That is one damn hot CPU :eek: I was recommended
    Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
    Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the hardware
    resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
    :cry:. I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
    anyone knows WTF over. Thanx [​IMG]


    --
    collapse
     
  8. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Guest

    My CPU is a constant 40C and my motherboard is 34C . I have no dust bunnies and my
    server is in a well ventilated spot with both side covers off.

    Overheating can be caused by dust bunnies,computer placed in an area where there is
    no air circulation Under Desk which is a No No,Junk piled around computer,and of
    course the back of computer against a wall which completely blocks circulation

    --
    Peter

    Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

    "collapse" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:290ca13a5c838eea07e5a4ed5bb71581@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
    > MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc ( Seagate
    > Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I might
    > add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
    > without a load. That is one damn hot CPU :eek: I was recommended
    > Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
    > Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the hardware
    > resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
    > :cry:. I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
    > anyone knows WTF over. Thanx [​IMG]
    >
    >
    > --
    > collapse <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  9. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "collapse" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:290ca13a5c838eea07e5a4ed5bb71581@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
    > MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc ( Seagate
    > Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I might
    > add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
    > without a load. That is one damn hot CPU :eek: I was recommended
    > Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
    > Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the hardware
    > resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
    > :cry:. I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
    > anyone knows WTF over. Thanx [​IMG]
    >
    >
    > --
    > collapse<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I thought it was hot for a CPU too at first, but searching Google I found
    that this is normal for AMD Turion x2 RM-72.



    You have to keep in mind the temperature sensor is located in different
    places on Intel and AMD.

    It maybe AMD places theirs closer to the area generating heat then Intel.
    At least, that is what it seems to me.
     
  10. collapse

    collapse Guest

    Mike, that is just the thing. My tasks & services have all been gone
    through and over looked and slimmed both down. Firefox being the
    heaviest app running on the user level while most everything else is
    system. Even so, these processes are not much different than what
    normally runs in Vista, which brings me and some others who have helped
    to the boggle. Unless there is a process that has a memory leak, or
    using unnecessary system resources, I am at a loss. Again, this notebook
    was designed for Vista, not XP. But would it really make that much of a
    difference? Here is a screen of the processes, Pretty slimmed down ,
    Firefox taking most of the system resources.

    [image: Peter, I have taken this unit apa...ish C in XP and 60 C in Vista. -- collapse
     
  11. whs

    whs Guest

    Dino;667399 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Not a problem but I bought a gateway computer that has an AMD Phenom
    > quad core with 3gigs of ram.It came with Vista Home premium installed
    > on it.
    > OK so I dislike Vista so I rounded up all My drivers and bought another
    > Harddrive and installed XP on it.Both os run very good with the
    > exception that on XP the AMD runs about 8 degrees C hotter than on
    > Vista.On Vista it idles at about 42c and on XP about 50c.
    > I contacted AMD and they said it was within specs.I am wondering if
    > anyone else has ever come across this situation.I used Speedfan and My
    > bios to arrive at these temperatures.
    > I have built a lot of computers before but I always used Pentium and I
    > never realized how much hotter AMD runs.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    The AMD's always ran a little warmer. You did not specify the model,
    but the range for Phenom quads is 90 to 140 watts - so pretty warm. But
    at 50C I would not worry. That is far below an acceptable maximum of
    about 75C.


    --
    whs
     
  12. collapse

    collapse Guest

    Tae Song;1157702 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "collapse" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message
    > news:290ca13a5c838eea07e5a4ed5bb71581@newsgroup-gateway.com...> > > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > >
    > > > So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
    > > > MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc (<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > Seagate<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > might<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
    > > > without a load. That is one damn hot CPU :eek: I was recommended
    > > > Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
    > > > Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > > hardware<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
    > > > :cry:. I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
    > > > anyone knows WTF over. Thanx [​IMG]
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > collapse > > I thought it was hot for a CPU too at first, but searching Google I<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > found
    > that this is normal for AMD Turion x2 RM-72.
    >
    > 'Gateway MD2601 CPU heating issue? - Yahoo! Answers'
    > ()
    >
    > You have to keep in mind the temperature sensor is located in
    > different
    > places on Intel and AMD.
    >
    > It maybe AMD places theirs closer to the area generating heat then
    > Intel.
    > At least, that is what it seems to me.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    My Yahoo post. I thought I'd take a shot and see what came up. As
    technical as the answer was, the fact that everyone forgets is that in
    Vista, this CPU runs at a cool 60C where as in XP, I am 80Cish. If it
    was a bit higher, I could understand that. But 20+ C degrees? That is
    alot. The system has shutdownfrom temperature failsafe before adding
    thermal grease ( Arctic Silver ), which has helped, butthe fact remains
    this system runs hot with XP.

    Here is the specs from CPU World: 'AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile technology
    RM-72 - TMRM72DAM22GG'
    (
    )


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  13. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "collapse" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
    news:0daec03bc88977ba67e4b070bc446757@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > Tae Song;1157702 Wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "collapse" <guest@newsgroup-email.com> wrote in message
    >> news:290ca13a5c838eea07e5a4ed5bb71581@newsgroup-gateway.com...> > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > >
    >> > > So I am running into the same issue with XP while running a Gateway
    >> > > MD2601. Didn't care for Vista, so I purchased a new hard disc (
    >> > Seagate
    >> > > Momentus 320gb 7,200 rpm ) and threw XP on, with some difficulty I
    >> > might
    >> > > add. In Vista, the CPU run @ 60 C while in XP, I run at about 80-85 C
    >> > > without a load. That is one damn hot CPU :eek: I was recommended
    >> > > Speedswitch for XP, but I'd like to understand the root of this evil.
    >> > > Vista, being the hog everyone says it is, should be killing the
    >> > hardware
    >> > > resources. Yet XP, second best to Win2kPro, is heating my CPU Hell
    >> > > :cry:. I will try the AMD driver posted here, but I'd like to know if
    >> > > anyone knows WTF over. Thanx [​IMG]
    >> > >
    >> > >
    >> > > --
    >> > > collapse > > I thought it was hot for a CPU too at first, but
    >> > > searching Google I<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> found
    >> that this is normal for AMD Turion x2 RM-72.
    >>
    >> 'Gateway MD2601 CPU heating issue? - Yahoo! Answers'
    >> ()
    >>
    >> You have to keep in mind the temperature sensor is located in
    >> different
    >> places on Intel and AMD.
    >>
    >> It maybe AMD places theirs closer to the area generating heat then
    >> Intel.
    >> At least, that is what it seems to me.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > My Yahoo post. I thought I'd take a shot and see what came up. As
    > technical as the answer was, the fact that everyone forgets is that in
    > Vista, this CPU runs at a cool 60C where as in XP, I am 80Cish. If it
    > was a bit higher, I could understand that. But 20+ C degrees? That is
    > alot. The system has shutdownfrom temperature failsafe before adding
    > thermal grease ( Arctic Silver ), which has helped, butthe fact remains
    > this system runs hot with XP.
    >
    > Here is the specs from CPU World: 'AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile technology
    > RM-72 - TMRM72DAM22GG'
    > (
    )
    >
    >
    > --
    > collapse<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    What are you using to gauge the temperature?
     
  14. You wanna know "WTF"?
    I tell you what:

    Next time use INTEL microprocessor, not AMD.
     
  15. Bill Yanaire

    Bill Yanaire Guest

    "STAN STARINSKI" <Chyna@stealsUSJobsPatentsSoftwareMusicVideo> wrote in
    message news:uFDbniqSKHA.352@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > You wanna know "WTF"?
    > I tell you what:
    >
    > Next time use INTEL microprocessor, not AMD.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Next time change your clock and then shove your head back in your ass where
    it belongs. Just FYI.
     

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