Can't turn off with keyboard / Is blackjack slower in Vista

I can't figure out how to turn the computer off using only the key
board. In previous windows, it was Windows/U/S , or maybe
Windows/U/U.

With Vista, I seem to have to use the mouse, or the infernal laptop
touch pad, to get to, then click on, an arrow which displays a list,
which requires the use of the touch pad again, because the list has no
accelerator keys. 4 steps, each more complicated than one letter,
where one keyboard letter used to do.


Also, I don't have them side by side, but it seems that when playing
Solitaire, it took longer to turn over each set of 3 cards, than it
did for me on WinXP or Win98, and I'm sure the Vista CPU is faster
than the others I've used. (It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop, which
came with Vista installed, but I don't know the speed.

 

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:34:40 -0400, mm wrote:
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> I can't figure out how to turn the computer off using only the key
> board. In previous windows, it was Windows/U/S , or maybe
> Windows/U/U.
>
> With Vista, I seem to have to use the mouse, or the infernal laptop
> touch pad, to get to, then click on, an arrow which displays a list,
> which requires the use of the touch pad again, because the list has no
> accelerator keys. 4 steps, each more complicated than one letter,
> where one keyboard letter used to do.
>
>
> Also, I don't have them side by side, but it seems that when playing
> Solitaire, it took longer to turn over each set of 3 cards, than it
> did for me on WinXP or Win98, and I'm sure the Vista CPU is faster
> than the others I've used. (It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop, which
> came with Vista installed, but I don't know the speed.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Press the Windows key, then the right arrow three times, to see a pop-up
menu; scroll up if you want something other than shutdown, and press enter.
Or press the magic letter in the pop-up.

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Press ALT+F4 then arrow up or down, hit enter. Same as all the rest of the
Win versions.


"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:jomn7xp8jf8h$.xdwide6al834.dlg@40tude.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:34:40 -0400, mm wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I can't figure out how to turn the computer off using only the key
>> board. In previous windows, it was Windows/U/S , or maybe
>> Windows/U/U.
>>
>> With Vista, I seem to have to use the mouse, or the infernal laptop
>> touch pad, to get to, then click on, an arrow which displays a list,
>> which requires the use of the touch pad again, because the list has no
>> accelerator keys. 4 steps, each more complicated than one letter,
>> where one keyboard letter used to do.
>>
>>
>> Also, I don't have them side by side, but it seems that when playing
>> Solitaire, it took longer to turn over each set of 3 cards, than it
>> did for me on WinXP or Win98, and I'm sure the Vista CPU is faster
>> than the others I've used. (It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop, which
>> came with Vista installed, but I don't know the speed.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Press the Windows key, then the right arrow three times, to see a pop-up
> menu; scroll up if you want something other than shutdown, and press
> enter.
> Or press the magic letter in the pop-up.
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

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>"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>news:jomn7xp8jf8h$.xdwide6al834.dlg@40tude.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:34:40 -0400, mm wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I can't figure out how to turn the computer off using only the key
>>> board. In previous windows, it was Windows/U/S , or maybe
>>> Windows/U/U.
>>>
>>> With Vista, I seem to have to use the mouse, or the infernal laptop
>>> touch pad, to get to, then click on, an arrow which displays a list,
>>> which requires the use of the touch pad again, because the list has no
>>> accelerator keys. 4 steps, each more complicated than one letter,
>>> where one keyboard letter used to do.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, I don't have them side by side, but it seems that when playing
>>> Solitaire, it took longer to turn over each set of 3 cards, than it
>>> did for me on WinXP or Win98, and I'm sure the Vista CPU is faster
>>> than the others I've used. (It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop, which
>>> came with Vista installed, but I don't know the speed.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Press the Windows key, then the right arrow three times, to see a pop-up
>> menu; scroll up if you want something other than shutdown, and press
>> enter.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Thanks a lot.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Or press the magic letter in the pop-up.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I'll have to wait until I'm at my brother's again to learn about the
magic letter. The pop-up list shutdown/restart/hibernate etc.
didn't have any letters in bold or underlined. But maybe they still
work as if they were. I'll try next time.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:47:34 -0400, "Art Storm" <avstorm@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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>Press ALT+F4 then arrow up or down, hit enter. Same as all the rest of the
>Win versions.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Thanks a lot.

I've never used alt+F4 to shut down. Using it now, in win98, it shut
down Firefox without shutting down windows. In Solitaire, it shut
down Solitaire without shutting down Windows. I don't think it's what
I want, or at least it's not the same as the rest of win versions, but
thanks anyhow.

 

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:04:06 -0400, mm wrote:
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>>"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:jomn7xp8jf8h$.xdwide6al834.dlg@40tude.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:34:40 -0400, mm wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can't figure out how to turn the computer off using only the key
>>>> board. In previous windows, it was Windows/U/S , or maybe
>>>> Windows/U/U.
>>>>
>>>> With Vista, I seem to have to use the mouse, or the infernal laptop
>>>> touch pad, to get to, then click on, an arrow which displays a list,
>>>> which requires the use of the touch pad again, because the list has no
>>>> accelerator keys. 4 steps, each more complicated than one letter,
>>>> where one keyboard letter used to do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, I don't have them side by side, but it seems that when playing
>>>> Solitaire, it took longer to turn over each set of 3 cards, than it
>>>> did for me on WinXP or Win98, and I'm sure the Vista CPU is faster
>>>> than the others I've used. (It's a Toshiba Satellite laptop, which
>>>> came with Vista installed, but I don't know the speed.
>>>
>>> Press the Windows key, then the right arrow three times, to see a pop-up
>>> menu; scroll up if you want something other than shutdown, and press
>>> enter.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Thanks a lot.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Or press the magic letter in the pop-up.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I'll have to wait until I'm at my brother's again to learn about the
> magic letter. The pop-up list shutdown/restart/hibernate etc.
> didn't have any letters in bold or underlined. But maybe they still
> work as if they were. I'll try next time.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> --
>>> Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:47:34 -0400, "Art Storm" <avstorm@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>Press ALT+F4 then arrow up or down, hit enter. Same as all the rest of the
>>Win versions.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> I've never used alt+F4 to shut down. Using it now, in win98, it shut
> down Firefox without shutting down windows. In Solitaire, it shut
> down Solitaire without shutting down Windows. I don't think it's what
> I want, or at least it's not the same as the rest of win versions, but
> thanks anyhow.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I just tried Art Storm's idea (after making sure no applications were in
the foreground), and I agree, its selection box has no underlined keys. The
pop-up menu by my method, which, by the way, requires less care to start,
has the underlining, whether I get there by keyboard or mouse.

I rarely use the Alt-F4 method, and basically had forgotten that it exists


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