Can't boot

In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
testing.

I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up an
running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are different
size).

No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i ran
repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and to
boot - by no :-(

 

Op Zaterdag 13 Juni 2009 23:37:56 +0200, schreef Lars <non@non.dk> in artikel <uP8658G7JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
> testing.
>
> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up an
> running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are different
> size).
>
> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i ran
> repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and to
> boot - by no :-(<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Of corse, jou removed the bootmanager, who was on the first drive.
Maybe you can repair it with starting up with the Windows-DVD.

--
Met vriendelijke groeten, Jawade. Kolibrie Software Tools:
1 juni: HexEditor, Diskeditors met MBR-rebuilders!
Bootmanager (+Vista +Linux +Engels), ClrMBR, SDir(DIRsize), POP3lezer,
Console-filebrowser, Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, USB-stick tester.

 

On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 23:37:56 +0200, "Lars" <non@non.dk> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
>testing.
>
>I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up an
>running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are different
>size).
>
>No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i ran
>repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and to
>boot - by no :-(
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Go into the BIOS and set another boot device. (first thought??)

IOW, it will look to boot from D:\

YMMV

 

Lars wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
> testing.
>
> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up
> an running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
> different size).
>
> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i
> ran repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and
> to boot - by no :-(<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

As an MVP in here told me, which worked, you may have to run repair twice.

First, with the Vista DVD...get to command line run bootrec /fixboot , then
bootrec /fixmbr ...then back out to menu and run Startup repair.

Reboot.

If it don't boot from the HD ... run Startup Repair again.

 

Vlad-the-Impaler wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Lars wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
>> testing.
>>
>> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up
>> an running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
>> different size).
>>
>> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i
>> ran repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed
>> and to boot - by no :-(<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> As an MVP in here told me, which worked, you may have to run repair twice.
>
> First, with the Vista DVD...get to command line run bootrec /fixboot ,
> then bootrec /fixmbr ...then back out to menu and run Startup repair.
>
> Reboot.
>
> If it don't boot from the HD ... run Startup Repair again.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Oh...it may be that you need to turn off the test HD too.

 

The bootloader cannot be replicated this way.

I was able to fixxx many Booting sector issues with Suse Linux GRUB
bootloader, no no no... I am NOt suggesting you need Linux, I just used the
TOOL from SUse Linux DVD, because Windows could nopt handle such serious
problems at the time.
maybe it can now, but 2 years ago I was using Suse Grub.

You need some Booting fix tool, OR you may simply restore that test drive
into booting order, loas Vista for the final time and run Settings Transfer
Wizard, save settings, DESTROY/format that test drive of course make sure
you dont lose any documents.

Then reinstall Vista on normal drive from DVD.
It's impossible to copy didsk to disk in a way you did, you eithe need to
fix booting sectors or reisnatll Vista from zero.

 

Boot with a live distro like Knoppix or Ubuntu. Then when booted see the issue in
the Event Viewer and see if it gives a hint

--
Peter

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Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Lars" <non@non.dk> wrote in message news:uP8658G7JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for testing.
>
> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up an
> running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are different size).
>
> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i ran
> repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and to boot -
> by no :-(
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I'm avare of that its the boot manger.
Tried to repair with the windows cd and it says it fixed some problems but
it still won't boot.
I also tried to force a boot on the other harddrive via the bios - same
problem

rgds lars

"Jawade" <Henk_Jawade@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:090613$235652@Jawade.Naaldwijk.nl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Op Zaterdag 13 Juni 2009 23:37:56 +0200, schreef Lars <non@non.dk> in
> artikel <uP8658G7JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
>> testing.
>>
>> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up
>> an
>> running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
>> different
>> size).
>>
>> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i
>> ran
>> repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and to
>> boot - by no :-(<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Of corse, jou removed the bootmanager, who was on the first drive.
> Maybe you can repair it with starting up with the Windows-DVD.
>
> --
> Met vriendelijke groeten, Jawade. Kolibrie Software Tools:
> 1 juni: HexEditor, Diskeditors met MBR-rebuilders!
> Bootmanager (+Vista +Linux +Engels), ClrMBR, SDir(DIRsize), POP3lezer,
> Console-filebrowser, Kalender, Webtellers en IP-log, USB-stick tester. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Lars" <non@non.dk> wrote in message
news:uP8658G7JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
> testing.
>
> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up
> an running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
> different size).
>
> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i
> ran repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and
> to boot - by no :-(
>
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I ran into a similar problem recently.

Disconnect the drive you don't have Vista on and run the Vista repair.

I don't know why, but the repair process will try to do repair on the drive
that does NOT have Vista on it.

 

On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:34:04 -0400, "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com>
wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>"Lars" <non@non.dk> wrote in message
>news:uP8658G7JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
>> testing.
>>
>> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up
>> an running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
>> different size).
>>
>> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i
>> ran repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and
>> to boot - by no :-(
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
>I ran into a similar problem recently.
>
>Disconnect the drive you don't have Vista on and run the Vista repair.
>
>I don't know why, but the repair process will try to do repair on the drive
>that does NOT have Vista on it.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Perhaps the repair process is looking for an active partition on the
primary drive, not an extended partition or secondary drive.

(thinking out loud)

 

"Oren" <Oren@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:lgka35la610cd1pb11nl56n369kis9tubd@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:34:04 -0400, "Tae Song" <tae_song@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>"Lars" <non@non.dk> wrote in message
>>news:uP8658G7JHA.1716@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
>>> testing.
>>>
>>> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration up
>>> an running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
>>> different size).
>>>
>>> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so i
>>> ran repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed
>>> and
>>> to boot - by no :-(
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>
>>I ran into a similar problem recently.
>>
>>Disconnect the drive you don't have Vista on and run the Vista repair.
>>
>>I don't know why, but the repair process will try to do repair on the
>>drive
>>that does NOT have Vista on it.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Perhaps the repair process is looking for an active partition on the
> primary drive, not an extended partition or secondary drive.
>
> (thinking out loud)
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I can only tell you my experience...

I ran into a problem with not being able to boot up from my main hard drive
and I tried booting up with the Vista DVD. It found the problem and went
through the process of repairing. I rebooted after repair was finish, still
can't boot. After a few failed more attempts, I tried using the command
line to rebuild the BCD.

I forget the exact details, but I discovered for some reason it was creating
the BCD store on my removable USB hard drive. I disconnected it and ran
repair again and it worked fine.

 

Lars;1065364 Wrote: <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
> testing.
>
> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration
> up an
> running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
> different
> size).
>
> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so
> i ran
> repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and
> to
> boot - by no :-(<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Hi Lars, Norton Ghost has been having compatibility problem with Vista.
Next time use Acronis TI; both HDDs will boot after mirroring.

Right now you may try to disconnect the "current" drive and boot from
the "test" drive to see if it work. If it boots, mirror it to your
"current" with Acronis TI and you are done. If the "test" drive
wouldn't boot, there are not much you can do for sure but reinstall
Vista. The size different between the two HDDs is not critical as long
as they are big enough for the OS. Post back.

Hope this helps.


--
bruce2

If you find some one's post helpful, please click the scales to give
rep.

 

I think it's the BCD and i looked into the commands but i'm not 'hardcore'
and able to do it...

Thats my BCD:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7100]
Copyright © 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

P:\>bcdedit

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=D:
path \bootmgr
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {default}
resumeobject {0421e86c-590c-11de-9ebf-8ad4449ce8fe}
displayorder {default}
{current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {default}
device partition=D:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {0421e86e-590c-11de-9ebf-8ad4449ce8fe}
recoveryenabled Yes
osdevice partition=D:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {0421e86c-590c-11de-9ebf-8ad4449ce8fe}
nx OptIn

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7 Ultimate (recovered)
locale en-US
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {6da2c01f-58bc-11de-acf0-806e6f6e6963}






"bruce2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:8199c32c79cf968e24dbbd3ab35aac37@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Lars;1065364 Wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
>> testing.
>>
>> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration
>> up an
>> running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
>> different
>> size).
>>
>> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so
>> i ran
>> repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and
>> to
>> boot - by no :-(<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Hi Lars, Norton Ghost has been having compatibility problem with Vista.
> Next time use Acronis TI; both HDDs will boot after mirroring.
>
> Right now you may try to disconnect the "current" drive and boot from
> the "test" drive to see if it work. If it boots, mirror it to your
> "current" with Acronis TI and you are done. If the "test" drive
> wouldn't boot, there are not much you can do for sure but reinstall
> Vista. The size different between the two HDDs is not critical as long
> as they are big enough for the OS. Post back.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
> --
> bruce2
>
> If you find some one's post helpful, please click the scales to give
> rep. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:24:56 +0200, "Lars" <non@non.dk> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I think it's the BCD and i looked into the commands but i'm not 'hardcore'
>and able to do it...
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Couple of observations: (^^^^^)

Partition is D:\ and the "osdevice" is C:\ and pointing there. It
wants to boot from C drive. If the file can be edited, change C:\
paths to D:\

(Vista Rookie)
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>Thats my BCD:
>
>Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7100]
>Copyright © 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
>P:>bcdedit
>
>Windows Boot Manager
>--------------------
>identifier {bootmgr}
>device partition=D:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>path bootmgr
>description Windows Boot Manager
>locale en-US
>inherit {globalsettings}
>default {default}
>resumeobject {0421e86c-590c-11de-9ebf-8ad4449ce8fe}
>displayorder {default}
> {current}
>toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
>timeout 30
>
>Windows Boot Loader
>-------------------
>identifier {default}
>device partition=D:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>path Windowssystem32winload.exe
>description Windows 7
>locale en-US
>inherit {bootloadersettings}
>recoverysequence {0421e86e-590c-11de-9ebf-8ad4449ce8fe}
>recoveryenabled Yes
>osdevice partition=D:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>systemroot Windows
>resumeobject {0421e86c-590c-11de-9ebf-8ad4449ce8fe}
>nx OptIn
>
>Windows Boot Loader
>-------------------
>identifier {current}
>device partition=C:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>path Windowssystem32winload.exe
>description Windows 7 Ultimate (recovered)
>locale en-US
>osdevice partition=C:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>systemroot Windows
>resumeobject {6da2c01f-58bc-11de-acf0-806e6f6e6963}
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"bruce2" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>news:8199c32c79cf968e24dbbd3ab35aac37@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Lars;1065364 Wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> In my PC i have 2 harddrives - one for my current system and one for
>>> testing.
>>>
>>> I installted vista on the test drive and after i got my configuration
>>> up an
>>> running i used Norton Ghost to 'copy disk to disk' (the disks are
>>> different
>>> size).
>>>
>>> No my pc won't boot on my 'current' drive: "no boot device avaible" so
>>> i ran
>>> repair with the Vista disk and i was told the problems where fixed and
>>> to
>>> boot - by no :-(<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Hi Lars, Norton Ghost has been having compatibility problem with Vista.
>> Next time use Acronis TI; both HDDs will boot after mirroring.
>>
>> Right now you may try to disconnect the "current" drive and boot from
>> the "test" drive to see if it work. If it boots, mirror it to your
>> "current" with Acronis TI and you are done. If the "test" drive
>> wouldn't boot, there are not much you can do for sure but reinstall
>> Vista. The size different between the two HDDs is not critical as long
>> as they are big enough for the OS. Post back.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> --
>> bruce2
>>
>> If you find some one's post helpful, please click the scales to give
>> rep. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->