Can Vista be "locked down" ?

ray wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:55:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> ray wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:02:47 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:33:16 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:01:34 -0500, whs wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ray;1141960 Wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I
>>>>>>>>>>> have some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the
>>>>>>>>>>> tools supplied by Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that
>>>>>>>>>>> the IE
>>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>>> is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>>>>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard
>>>>>>>>>>> users,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by
>>>>>>>>>>> clicking a button in a dialog box.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog
>>>>>>>>>>> box.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users,
>>>>>>>>>>> although they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed.
>>>>>>>>>>> However, they require access to an administrator password to do
>>>>>>>>>>> so."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then why setup a standard account when the administrator runs
>>>>>>>>>>> as a standard
>>>>>>>>>> user?
>>>>>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8
>>>>>>>>>>> more secure?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>> David > >
>>>>>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use
>>>>>>>>> it instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really
>>>>>>>>> serious about security, I would also suggest you start looking at
>>>>>>>>> alternatives to MS -
>>>>>>>>> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
>>>>>>>> With all due respect, I don't think you know what you are talking
>>>>>>>> about. You better update yourself with some professional data (
>>>>>>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> %<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>>>> 20Security%20-%20Socially%20Engineered%20Malware%20Q3%202009.pdf
>>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>> Note: This study does not compare browser security
>>>>>>> related to
>>>>>>> vulnerabilities in plug‐ins or the browsers themselves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what do you suppose it proves?
>>>>>> "EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
>>>>>> During July, 2009 NSS Labs performed the second test of web browser
>>>>>> protection against socially engineered malware - the most common and
>>>>>> impactful security threat facing Internet users today.1 This report
>>>>>> followed the same Live Testing methodology as the test conducted in
>>>>>> Q1 2009, (see: ). It is based upon
>>>>>> empirically validated evidence gathered during 12 days of 24x7
>>>>>> testing, performed every 4 hours, over 69 discrete test runs, each
>>>>>> one adding fresh new malware URLs. Each product was updated to the
>>>>>> most current version available at the time testing began, and
>>>>>> allowed access to the live Internet.
>>>>>> 1%7%21%27%81%0%20%40%60%80%Opera 10Chrome 2Safari 4Firefox 3Internet
>>>>>> Explorer 8Mean Block Rate for Socially Engineered Malware Internet
>>>>>> Explorer 8 caught 81% of the live threats, an exceptional score
>>>>>> which surpassed the next best browser (Firefox 3) by a 54% margin.
>>>>>> Windows Internet Explorer 8 improved 12% between Q1 and Q2 tests,
>>>>>> evidence of concerted efforts Microsoft is making in the SmartScreen
>>>>>> technology. Firefox 3 caught 27% of live threats, far fewer than
>>>>>> Internet Explorer 8. It was, however, the best among products
>>>>>> utilizing the Google SafeBrowsing API. (Note: Firefox 3.5 was not
>>>>>> stable enough to be tested during the course of this test. A patch
>>>>>> has subsequently become available to address the stability issue. We
>>>>>> were able to manually verify that the protection was identical
>>>>>> between versions 3.0.11 and 3.5). Safari 4 caught 21% of live
>>>>>> threats. Overall protection varied greatly, with two short periods
>>>>>> of severe dips. Chrome 2 caught just 7% of live threats an 8% drop
>>>>>> from the previous test. Opera 10 Beta caught a mere 1% of live
>>>>>> threats, providing virtually no protection against socially
>>>>>> engineered malware. In our test bed validation, we verified there
>>>>>> was effectively no difference between Opera 9 and Opera 10 Beta."
>>>>> I see. So basically, it's worthless.
>>>> You mean like you or linux?
>>> No, frankie baby - I mean like you - since YOU bring it up.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I'm not the one spamming this Windows Vista ng with MS hatred and linux
>> spam, that worthless S.O.B. would you ...ray-baby!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I'm not either. I don't spread hatred and spam - but I see YOU do. I also
> don't resort to profanity - the crutch of a weak mind.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're a LIAR!

 

Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h9d379$7rp$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> See! You're still ranting & raving about Ubuntu! I'll have to look
>>> elsewhere to find the answers to my questions.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> The answer is that is can't be done. Windows and IE are, by nature, like a
>> sieve. If you nuke Vista and install Ubuntu, you will be secure. This is
>> not a rant or a rave but a fact.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You really are stupid. If he uses Ubuntu he won't be able to use his
> software programs.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

He didn't mention any software programs except for IE8 and even that can
be run in WINE.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> That makes that INFERIOR Ubuntu useless.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Your opinion is useless.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Get over it. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Get over what?

Alias<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h9aoqd$icg$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Yawn. Ubuntu is safer than IE will ever be. The OP wants a safe surfing
> environment which excludes any and all flavors of Windows.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Does your Windows PC ever connect to the internet? You know, the one you
admitted you own for playing games. Don't games ever need updates/patches?

 

Brian W wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h9aoqd$icg$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Yawn. Ubuntu is safer than IE will ever be. The OP wants a safe
>> surfing environment which excludes any and all flavors of Windows.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Does your Windows PC ever connect to the internet? You know, the one you
> admitted you own for playing games. Don't games ever need updates/patches?
>
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yes, it's connected to the Internet and I keep its XP updated, with an
anti virus, etc. I'm not new to Windows.

Alias

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h9b5mm$vvq$2@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> ray wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
>>>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>>>> Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>
>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>
>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
>>>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>>>
>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
>>>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
>>>>> user?
>>>>>
>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>> secure?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> David
>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS
>>>> - they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
>>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software programs out
>>> there.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will run free
>> equivalents for what you would need most. It's also true that Linux is
>> not inferior to anything. It's also true that there are other
>> distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu. It's also true that Linux is not
>> the only alternative to MS.
>>
>> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall disabled. No
> anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you try to open crashes.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Anyone stupid enough to run a PC like deserves to be infected. I've never
had any malware/spyware or anything else on my PC.

 

"Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
news:h9b9rq$5ik$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I *enjoy* nuking Windows and installing Ubuntu. It has nothing to do with
> money.
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Nuke it from your own PC then, the one use for games. Go on, I dare you!

 

Brian W wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h9b9rq$5ik$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> I *enjoy* nuking Windows and installing Ubuntu. It has nothing to do
>> with money.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Nuke it from your own PC then, the one use for games. Go on, I dare you!
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Why would I do that?

Alias

 

Brian W wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h9b5mm$vvq$2@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> ray wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
>>>>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>>>>> Vista.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>>>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
>>>>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
>>>>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
>>>>>> user?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>>> secure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>> David
>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>>>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>>>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS
>>>>> - they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
>>>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>>>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software programs out
>>>> there.
>>>
>>> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will run
>>> free equivalents for what you would need most. It's also true that
>>> Linux is not inferior to anything. It's also true that there are
>>> other distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu. It's also true that
>>> Linux is not the only alternative to MS.
>>>
>>> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall disabled.
>> No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you try to open
>> crashes.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Anyone stupid enough to run a PC like deserves to be infected. I've
> never had any malware/spyware or anything else on my PC.
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're one of the two out of five Windows computers that aren't
infected. BFD.

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Brian W wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:h9b5mm$vvq$2@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>>>>>> Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>>>>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>>>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard
>>>>>>> users, but
>>>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by
>>>>>>> clicking a
>>>>>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>>>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>>>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then
>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
>>>>>>> user?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>>>> secure?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>>>>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>>>>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives
>>>>>> to MS
>>>>>> - they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
>>>>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>>>>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software programs out
>>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will run
>>>> free equivalents for what you would need most. It's also true that
>>>> Linux is not inferior to anything. It's also true that there are
>>>> other distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu. It's also true that
>>>> Linux is not the only alternative to MS.
>>>>
>>>> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!
>>>
>>> A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall
>>> disabled. No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you try
>>> to open crashes.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Anyone stupid enough to run a PC like deserves to be infected. I've
>> never had any malware/spyware or anything else on my PC.
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You're one of the two out of five Windows computers that aren't
> infected. BFD.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Got any real empirical data to back up your claim (lie!)?
You can't can you as you're so full lies you couldn't find the truth if
your miserable POS life depended on it.

 

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>> You're one of the two out of five Windows computers that aren't
>>>>>>>> infected. BFD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got any real empirical data to back up your claim (lie!)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, Google it if you know how.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, thanks for proving my point that you are indeed a liar!
>>>>
>>>> I can't help it if you're not informed.
>>>
>>> Translation: alias has once again been caught lying.
>>> So whats new?...LOL!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> No, I'm not and if you would Google it, you would see that it's true,
>> three out of five Windows machines are infected.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Sorry, but you are either lying or else you're confusing "cookies" with
> being infected. That would be 60%, or most all Windows based computers
> are infected.
> So first define your meaning of "infected', then prove you point with
> reliable empirical up-to-date data.<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Hundreds of thousands of Windows machines are in Net bots delivering
>> malware to your inbox and on web sites. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Your number (60%) would mean literally millions of Windows computers
>
> Where have you been, hiding
> under a rock?
>
> No, but its obvious you have your head shoved firmly up your ass.
>
> Oh and I've never ever had an infected Windows computer...never.
> BTW, WTF are you surfing that you always get infected?
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
World-wide? Yes, probably millions of Windows computers are infected,
and don't know it, which would account for the recent successful DDOS
attacks on Twitter and Facebook, for example.

Many of those infected computers, however, are likely running 'pirated'
versions of windows without proper updates, patches, AntiVirus,
firewalls, etc.

 

KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>> You're one of the two out of five Windows computers that aren't
>>>>>>>>> infected. BFD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got any real empirical data to back up your claim (lie!)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep, Google it if you know how.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again, thanks for proving my point that you are indeed a liar!
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't help it if you're not informed.
>>>>
>>>> Translation: alias has once again been caught lying.
>>>> So whats new?...LOL!
>>>
>>> No, I'm not and if you would Google it, you would see that it's true,
>>> three out of five Windows machines are infected.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Sorry, but you are either lying or else you're confusing "cookies"
>> with being infected. That would be 60%, or most all Windows based
>> computers are infected.
>> So first define your meaning of "infected', then prove you point with
>> reliable empirical up-to-date data.<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> Hundreds of thousands of Windows machines are in Net bots delivering
>>> malware to your inbox and on web sites. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Your number (60%) would mean literally millions of Windows computers
>>
>> Where have you been, hiding
>> under a rock?
>>
>> No, but its obvious you have your head shoved firmly up your ass.
>>
>> Oh and I've never ever had an infected Windows computer...never.
>> BTW, WTF are you surfing that you always get infected?
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> World-wide? Yes, probably millions of Windows computers are infected,
> and don't know it, which would account for the recent successful DDOS
> attacks on Twitter and Facebook, for example.
>
> Many of those infected computers, however, are likely running 'pirated'
> versions of windows without proper updates, patches, AntiVirus,
> firewalls, etc.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

So you support alias contention that 60% of all Windows computers are
infected?
Is that correct? If yes can you supply an real empirical data to back up
your assertion?
Or is yours (proly like alias) simply anecdotal in nature?

 

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> You're one of the two out of five Windows computers that
>>>>>>>>>> aren't infected. BFD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Got any real empirical data to back up your claim (lie!)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yep, Google it if you know how.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again, thanks for proving my point that you are indeed a liar!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't help it if you're not informed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Translation: alias has once again been caught lying.
>>>>> So whats new?...LOL!
>>>>
>>>> No, I'm not and if you would Google it, you would see that it's
>>>> true, three out of five Windows machines are infected.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but you are either lying or else you're confusing "cookies"
>>> with being infected. That would be 60%, or most all Windows based
>>> computers are infected.
>>> So first define your meaning of "infected', then prove you point with
>>> reliable empirical up-to-date data.
>>>>
>>>> Hundreds of thousands of Windows machines are in Net bots delivering
>>>> malware to your inbox and on web sites.
>>>
>>> Your number (60%) would mean literally millions of Windows computers
>>>
>>> Where have you been, hiding
>>> under a rock?
>>>
>>> No, but its obvious you have your head shoved firmly up your ass.
>>>
>>> Oh and I've never ever had an infected Windows computer...never.
>>> BTW, WTF are you surfing that you always get infected?
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> World-wide? Yes, probably millions of Windows computers are infected,
>> and don't know it, which would account for the recent successful DDOS
>> attacks on Twitter and Facebook, for example.
>>
>> Many of those infected computers, however, are likely running
>> 'pirated' versions of windows without proper updates, patches,
>> AntiVirus, firewalls, etc.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> So you support alias contention that 60% of all Windows computers are
> infected?
> Is that correct? If yes can you supply an real empirical data to back up
> your assertion?
> Or is yours (proly like alias) simply anecdotal in nature?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Windows virus infects 9m computers


New worm infecting computers worldwide


Computer Virus Doing Damage To Millions Of PCs Worldwide


Fake Windows “Antivirus” Code Infected 1 Million Computers


Any other questions?

 

KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> You're one of the two out of five Windows computers that
>>>>>>>>>>> aren't infected. BFD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Got any real empirical data to back up your claim (lie!)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yep, Google it if you know how.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once again, thanks for proving my point that you are indeed a liar!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't help it if you're not informed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Translation: alias has once again been caught lying.
>>>>>> So whats new?...LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I'm not and if you would Google it, you would see that it's
>>>>> true, three out of five Windows machines are infected.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, but you are either lying or else you're confusing "cookies"
>>>> with being infected. That would be 60%, or most all Windows based
>>>> computers are infected.
>>>> So first define your meaning of "infected', then prove you point
>>>> with reliable empirical up-to-date data.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hundreds of thousands of Windows machines are in Net bots
>>>>> delivering malware to your inbox and on web sites.
>>>>
>>>> Your number (60%) would mean literally millions of Windows computers
>>>>
>>>> Where have you been, hiding
>>>> under a rock?
>>>>
>>>> No, but its obvious you have your head shoved firmly up your ass.
>>>>
>>>> Oh and I've never ever had an infected Windows computer...never.
>>>> BTW, WTF are you surfing that you always get infected?
>>>>
>>> World-wide? Yes, probably millions of Windows computers are
>>> infected, and don't know it, which would account for the recent
>>> successful DDOS attacks on Twitter and Facebook, for example.
>>>
>>> Many of those infected computers, however, are likely running
>>> 'pirated' versions of windows without proper updates, patches,
>>> AntiVirus, firewalls, etc.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> So you support alias contention that 60% of all Windows computers are
>> infected?
>> Is that correct? If yes can you supply an real empirical data to back
>> up your assertion?
>> Or is yours (proly like alias) simply anecdotal in nature?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Windows virus infects 9m computers
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

'Estimated" at 9 mil.<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> New worm infecting computers worldwide
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Very old...May of 2004
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> Computer Virus Doing Damage To Millions Of PCs Worldwide
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Again, estimated at 15 mil<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> Fake Windows “Antivirus” Code Infected 1 Million Computers
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Estimated at 1 mil<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
>
> Any other questions?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Only one...I see nothing of any real empirical data supporting your and
alias contention that 6 out 10 Windows OS are "infected". By "infected"
I mean they are remotely controlled bots.
Can you supply that real data?

Oh and do you have any idea just how many computers there are in use in
the world today?

 

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>> Brian W wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:h9b5mm$vvq$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supplied by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode &
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the IE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard users, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clicking a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> box.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> although
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user. Then why
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8 more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and use it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious about
>>>>>>>>>>>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternatives to MS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software
>>>>>>>>>>>> programs out
>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It
>>>>>>>>>>> will run free equivalents for what you would need most. It's
>>>>>>>>>>> also true that Linux is not inferior to anything. It's also
>>>>>>>>>>> true that there are other distributions of Linux besides
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu. It's also true that Linux is not the only alternative
>>>>>>>>>>> to MS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall
>>>>>>>>>> disabled. No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything
>>>>>>>>>> you try to open crashes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyone stupid enough to run a PC like deserves to be infected.
>>>>>>>>> I've never had any malware/spyware or anything else on my PC.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're one of the two out of five Windows computers that aren't
>>>>>>>> infected. BFD.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got any real empirical data to back up your claim (lie!)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, Google it if you know how.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, thanks for proving my point that you are indeed a liar!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't help it if you're not informed.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> Translation: alias has once again been caught lying.
>>> So whats new?...LOL!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> No, I'm not and if you would Google it, you would see that it's true,
>> three out of five Windows machines are infected.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Sorry, but you are either lying or else you're confusing "cookies" with
> being infected. That would be 60%, or most all Windows based computers
> are infected.
> So first define your meaning of "infected', then prove you point with
> reliable empirical up-to-date data.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Infected by malware, just like I wrote.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> Hundreds of thousands of Windows machines are in Net bots delivering
>> malware to your inbox and on web sites. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Your number (60%) would mean literally millions of Windows computers<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yep, sad ain't it?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Where have you been, hiding
> under a rock?
>
> No, but its obvious you have your head shoved firmly up your ass.
>
> Oh and I've never ever had an infected Windows computer...never.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

To your knowledge.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> BTW, WTF are you surfing that you always get infected?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I never said any of my computers are infected.

Alias<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Frank wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Hahahaha...caught you lying...again...and as usual!...LOL!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

The only thing you could catch is swine flu or scabies (look it up).

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> Hahahaha...caught you lying...again...and as usual!...LOL!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> The only thing you could catch is swine flu or scabies (look it up).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Hahahaha...you've had your lying ass nailed so many times in here its
becoming routine!...LOL!

 

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Frank wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>> Hahahaha...caught you lying...again...and as usual!...LOL!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> The only thing you could catch is swine flu or scabies (look it up).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Hahahaha...you've had your lying ass nailed so many times in here its
> becoming routine!...LOL!
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yawn.

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Hahahaha...caught you lying...again...and as usual!...LOL!
>>>
>>> The only thing you could catch is swine flu or scabies (look it up).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Hahahaha...you've had your lying ass nailed so many times in here its
>> becoming routine!...LOL!
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Yawn.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're a pathological liar as we've come to believe.

 

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Hahahaha...caught you lying...again...and as usual!...LOL!
>>>>
>>>> The only thing you could catch is swine flu or scabies (look it up).
>>>
>>> Hahahaha...you've had your lying ass nailed so many times in here its
>>> becoming routine!...LOL!
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Yawn.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You're a pathological liar as we've come to believe.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

There's a new movie you need to see. It's called "The Day they Invented
Lying".

Alias

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hahahaha...caught you lying...again...and as usual!...LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> The only thing you could catch is swine flu or scabies (look it up).
>>>>
>>>> Hahahaha...you've had your lying ass nailed so many times in here
>>>> its becoming routine!...LOL!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yawn.
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> You're a pathological liar as we've come to believe.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> There's a new movie you need to see. It's called "The Day they Invented
> Lying".<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Is that your Bible?