Can Vista be "locked down" ?

KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8
>>>>>>>> more secure?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's
>>>>>>> free and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!
>>>>>
>>>>> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a
>>>>> good suggestion too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> adâ‹…voâ‹…cate
>>>>
>>>> –verb (used with object)
>>>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument;
>>>> recommend publicly.
>>>>
>>>> –noun
>>>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,
>>>> cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>>>>
>>>> Just a suggestion!
>>>
>>> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> hehehe...you just publicly admitted that you are in fact a linux
>> TROLL...something we've all been accusing you of being for
>> years...hahaha!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Correction - he just admitted that sometimes he's an Ubuntu Advocate.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Correction:...he is a known and admitted lying linux troll...period.<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> His trolling posts have nearly vanished over the years,..<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Oh really? He post his linux spamming trolling drivel in here on a daily
basis.

but you, Frank,
continue to post accusations and argumentative replies, instigating
flames. Put away the matches.

Lets be clear...I use Vista/Windows 7 as my OS's...he doesn't. He is an
MS hating lying linux troll...as we all know. He has targeted this ng as
his outlet for his MS HATRED AND HIS LINUX SPAMMING & TROLLING.
He painted the very large and very obvious bullseye on his back...not me.
I'm just a good shot!

 

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>> adâ‹…voâ‹…cate
>>>>>
>>>>> –verb (used with object)
>>>>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument;
>>>>> recommend publicly.
>>>>>
>>>>> –noun
>>>>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,
>>>>> cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a suggestion!
>>>>
>>>> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> hehehe...you just publicly admitted that you are in fact a linux
>>> TROLL...something we've all been accusing you of being for
>>> years...hahaha!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Correction - he just admitted that sometimes he's an Ubuntu Advocate.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Correction:...he is a known and admitted lying linux troll...period.<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> His trolling posts have nearly vanished over the years,..<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Oh really? He post his linux spamming trolling drivel in here on a daily
> basis.
>
> but you, Frank,
> continue to post accusations and argumentative replies, instigating
> flames. Put away the matches.
>
> Lets be clear...I use Vista/Windows 7 as my OS's...he doesn't. He is an
> MS hating lying linux troll...as we all know. He has targeted this ng as
> his outlet for his MS HATRED AND HIS LINUX SPAMMING & TROLLING.
> He painted the very large and very obvious bullseye on his back...not me.
> I'm just a good shot! <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Let's get something straight, ok?

He does not start topics, arguments, flames, name calling, personal
attacks, etc., the way he used to, but *you* still spend most of your
time trolling for his replies rather than discussing anything, including
Vista, with anyone else.

In your over zealous attempts to make him leave, which will never
happen, you turned into the troll. Almost all of his claims that anyone
is lying are a direct response to posts calling him a liar first.

His attitude has matured and yours has not. He can carry on an actual
discussion, but you choose to waste all your free time spitting at him
and anyone else that tries to be civil to him.

A few years ago, I did not leave these groups because of Alias. I left
because of all the immature and idiotic flaming and name calling by you
and a few others. This is one of *my* newsgroups, too, and I had to get
away from it to regain my happy thoughts.

Put away the matches and stop fanning the flames!

 

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:01:34 -0500, whs wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> ray;1141960 Wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> > > >
>> > > I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have
>> > > some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools
>> > > supplied by Vista.
>> > >
>> > > I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>> > code
>> > > is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible
>> > for
>> > > my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>> > >
>> > > The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>> > >
>> > > "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users,
>> > but
>> > > are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking
>> > > a button in a dialog box.
>> > >
>> > > (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>> > >
>> > > Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>> > > they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>> > > require access to an administrator password to do so."
>> > >
>> > > Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then
>> > > why setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a
>> > > standard
>> > user?
>> > >
>> > > What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>> > > secure?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you.
>> > > David > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS
>> -
>> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> With all due respect, I don't think you know what you are talking about.
> You better update yourself with some professional data (
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
20Security%20-%20Socially%20Engineered%20Malware%20Q3%202009.pdf<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> ).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Note: This study does not compare browser security related to
vulnerabilities in plug‐ins or the browsers themselves.

So what do you suppose it proves?

 

KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>>>> adâ‹…voâ‹…cate
>>>>>>
>>>>>> –verb (used with object)
>>>>>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument;
>>>>>> recommend publicly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> –noun
>>>>>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,
>>>>>> cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a suggestion!
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> hehehe...you just publicly admitted that you are in fact a linux
>>>> TROLL...something we've all been accusing you of being for
>>>> years...hahaha!
>>>
>>> Correction - he just admitted that sometimes he's an Ubuntu Advocate.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Correction:...he is a known and admitted lying linux troll...period.<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> His trolling posts have nearly vanished over the years,..<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Oh really? He post his linux spamming trolling drivel in here on a
>> daily basis.
>>
>> but you, Frank,
>> continue to post accusations and argumentative replies, instigating
>> flames. Put away the matches.
>>
>> Lets be clear...I use Vista/Windows 7 as my OS's...he doesn't. He is
>> an MS hating lying linux troll...as we all know. He has targeted this
>> ng as his outlet for his MS HATRED AND HIS LINUX SPAMMING & TROLLING.
>> He painted the very large and very obvious bullseye on his back...not me.
>> I'm just a good shot! <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Let's get something straight, ok?
>
> He does not start topics, arguments, flames, name calling, personal
> attacks, etc., the way he used to, but *you* still spend most of your
> time trolling for his replies rather than discussing anything, including
> Vista, with anyone else.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That is simply not true. What are you?...his PR firm?<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> In your over zealous attempts to make him leave, which will never
> happen, you turned into the troll. Almost all of his claims that anyone
> is lying are a direct response to posts calling him a liar first.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That is because he is a known and admitted liar.<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> His attitude has matured and yours has not. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

It has? About what?

He can carry on an actual<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> discussion, but you choose to waste all your free time spitting at him
> and anyone else that tries to be civil to him.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Which ng are you referring to?<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> A few years ago, I did not leave these groups because of Alias. I left
> because of all the immature and idiotic flaming and name calling by you
> and a few others. This is one of *my* newsgroups, too, and I had to get
> away from it to regain my happy thoughts.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Sorry to hear that I am the main cause of your discontentment. alias is
nothing but a lying, insulting POS linturd spamming troll.
Nothing more and nothing less.
If you are so enamored with him and unset with me then kill file me.

Put away the matches and stop fanning the flames!

Sorry, but my noble cause to refute alias and his lies & spam and to
announce to everyone in here that he is in fact a lying spamming linux
troll.

 

ray wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:01:34 -0500, whs wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> ray;1141960 Wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have
>>>>> some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools
>>>>> supplied by Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>>> code
>>>>> is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is impossible
>>>> for
>>>>> my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>
>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>
>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users,
>>>> but
>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking
>>>>> a button in a dialog box.
>>>>>
>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then
>>>>> why setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a
>>>>> standard
>>>> user?
>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>> secure?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> David > >
>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS
>>> -
>>> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> With all due respect, I don't think you know what you are talking about.
>> You better update yourself with some professional data (
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> 20Security%20-%20Socially%20Engineered%20Malware%20Q3%202009.pdf<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> ).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> Note: This study does not compare browser security related to
> vulnerabilities in plug‐ins or the browsers themselves.
>
> So what do you suppose it proves?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

"EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
During July, 2009 NSS Labs performed the second test of web browser
protection against socially engineered malware - the most common and
impactful security threat facing Internet users today.1 This report
followed the same Live Testing methodology as the test conducted in Q1
2009, (see: ). It is based upon
empirically validated evidence gathered during 12 days of 24x7 testing,
performed every 4 hours, over 69 discrete test runs, each one adding
fresh new malware URLs. Each product was updated to the most current
version available at the time testing began, and allowed access to the
live Internet.
1%7%21%27%81%0%20%40%60%80%Opera 10Chrome 2Safari 4Firefox 3Internet
Explorer 8Mean Block Rate for Socially Engineered Malware
Internet Explorer 8 caught 81% of the live threats, an exceptional score
which surpassed the next best browser (Firefox 3) by a 54% margin.
Windows Internet Explorer 8 improved 12% between Q1 and Q2 tests,
evidence of concerted efforts Microsoft is making in the SmartScreen
technology.
Firefox 3 caught 27% of live threats, far fewer than Internet Explorer
8. It was, however, the best among products utilizing the Google
SafeBrowsing API. (Note: Firefox 3.5 was not stable enough to be tested
during the course of this test. A patch has subsequently become
available to address the stability issue. We were able to manually
verify that the protection was identical between versions 3.0.11 and 3.5).
Safari 4 caught 21% of live threats. Overall protection varied greatly,
with two short periods of severe dips.
Chrome 2 caught just 7% of live threats an 8% drop from the previous test.
Opera 10 Beta caught a mere 1% of live threats, providing virtually no
protection against socially engineered malware. In our test bed
validation, we verified there was effectively no difference between
Opera 9 and Opera 10 Beta."

 

Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> KristleBawl wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>> secure?
>>>>
>>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free
>>>> and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
>> suggestion too.
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Liar! You're a lying linturd spammer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're just a sad little man who needs someone to hate and insult.

Alias

 

ray wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
>>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>>> Vista.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>
>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>
>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
>>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>>
>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>>
>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>>
>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
>>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
>>>> user?
>>>>
>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>> secure?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> David
>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS
>>> - they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software programs out
>> there.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will run free
> equivalents for what you would need most. It's also true that Linux is
> not inferior to anything. It's also true that there are other
> distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu. It's also true that Linux is not
> the only alternative to MS.
>
> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall disabled.
No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you try to open
crashes. I showed him Ubuntu. I'm installing Mint on his computer tomorrow.

Alias

 

Frank <fb@kma.com> wrote in news:4ab91336$1@news.x-privat.org:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>>>> –verb (used with object)
>>>>>>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument;
>>>>>>> recommend publicly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> –noun
>>>>>>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,
>>>>>>> cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a suggestion!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> hehehe...you just publicly admitted that you are in fact a linux
>>>>> TROLL...something we've all been accusing you of being for
>>>>> years...hahaha!
>>>>
>>>> Correction - he just admitted that sometimes he's an Ubuntu
>>>> Advocate.
>>>
>>> Correction:...he is a known and admitted lying linux troll...period.
>>>>
>>>> His trolling posts have nearly vanished over the years,..
>>>
>>> Oh really? He post his linux spamming trolling drivel in here on a
>>> daily basis.
>>>
>>> but you, Frank,
>>> continue to post accusations and argumentative replies, instigating
>>> flames. Put away the matches.
>>>
>>> Lets be clear...I use Vista/Windows 7 as my OS's...he doesn't. He is
>>> an MS hating lying linux troll...as we all know. He has targeted
>>> this ng as his outlet for his MS HATRED AND HIS LINUX SPAMMING &
>>> TROLLING. He painted the very large and very obvious bullseye on his
>>> back...not me. I'm just a good shot! <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Let's get something straight, ok?
>>
>> He does not start topics, arguments, flames, name calling, personal
>> attacks, etc., the way he used to, but *you* still spend most of your
>> time trolling for his replies rather than discussing anything,
>> including Vista, with anyone else.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> That is simply not true. What are you?...his PR firm?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yes, it is completely tru. YOU are the one that calls himout and starts
all the lamer threads.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> In your over zealous attempts to make him leave, which will never
>> happen, you turned into the troll. Almost all of his claims that
>> anyone is lying are a direct response to posts calling him a liar
>> first. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> That is because he is a known and admitted liar.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

That is what YOU claim, and for the 100 th time.......just because you
say something...over and over again and over again, doesn;t make it
true.....watch....

Frank is intelligent.

Frank is intelligent.

Frank is intelligent.

Frank is intelligent.

Frank is intelligent.

Frank is intelligent.

See.....still not true.

One by one others need to tell you that you are the problem.

When you weren;t posting for the last week or two, it was pretty quiet,
a**hole wise, now your back, and I can smell the sh*t from here.


(Go ahead......reply now, call me a POS loser, Dan-O, say my panties are
all in a bunch. Tell me to STFU.(There, did I miss anything ?))

 

DanS wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank <fb@kma.com> wrote in news:4ab91336$1@news.x-privat.org:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>>>>> –verb (used with object)
>>>>>>>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument;
>>>>>>>> recommend publicly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> –noun
>>>>>>>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a person,
>>>>>>>> cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of peace.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a suggestion!
>>>>>>> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>> hehehe...you just publicly admitted that you are in fact a linux
>>>>>> TROLL...something we've all been accusing you of being for
>>>>>> years...hahaha!
>>>>> Correction - he just admitted that sometimes he's an Ubuntu
>>>>> Advocate.
>>>> Correction:...he is a known and admitted lying linux troll...period.
>>>>> His trolling posts have nearly vanished over the years,..
>>>> Oh really? He post his linux spamming trolling drivel in here on a
>>>> daily basis.
>>>>
>>>> but you, Frank,
>>>> continue to post accusations and argumentative replies, instigating
>>>> flames. Put away the matches.
>>>>
>>>> Lets be clear...I use Vista/Windows 7 as my OS's...he doesn't. He is
>>>> an MS hating lying linux troll...as we all know. He has targeted
>>>> this ng as his outlet for his MS HATRED AND HIS LINUX SPAMMING &
>>>> TROLLING. He painted the very large and very obvious bullseye on his
>>>> back...not me. I'm just a good shot!
>>> Let's get something straight, ok?
>>>
>>> He does not start topics, arguments, flames, name calling, personal
>>> attacks, etc., the way he used to, but *you* still spend most of your
>>> time trolling for his replies rather than discussing anything,
>>> including Vista, with anyone else.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> That is simply not true. What are you?...his PR firm?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Yes, it is completely tru. YOU are the one that calls himout and starts
> all the lamer threads.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> In your over zealous attempts to make him leave, which will never
>>> happen, you turned into the troll. Almost all of his claims that
>>> anyone is lying are a direct response to posts calling him a liar
>>> first. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> That is because he is a known and admitted liar.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> That is what YOU claim, and for the 100 th time.......just because you
> say something...over and over again and over again, doesn;t make it
> true.....watch....
>
> Frank is intelligent.
>
> Frank is intelligent.
>
> Frank is intelligent.
>
> Frank is intelligent.
>
> Frank is intelligent.
>
> Frank is intelligent.
>
> See.....still not true.
>
> One by one others need to tell you that you are the problem.
>
> When you weren;t posting for the last week or two, it was pretty quiet,
> a**hole wise, now your back, and I can smell the sh*t from here.
>
>
> (Go ahead......reply now, call me a POS loser, Dan-O, say my panties are
> all in a bunch. Tell me to STFU.(There, did I miss anything ?))<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Why? You've just a fool out of yourself in here and you certainly don't
need my help!...hahahah!

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Frank wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> KristleBawl wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>>> secure?
>>>>>
>>>>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free
>>>>> and comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Oops! You're advocating again. Shame on you!
>>>
>>> It was a suggestion. If the OP can afford a Mac, that would be a good
>>> suggestion too.
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Liar! You're a lying linturd spammer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You're just a sad little man who needs someone to hate and insult.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Projecting...again?

 

Alias wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> ray wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
>>>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>>>> Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>
>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>
>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
>>>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>>>
>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
>>>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
>>>>> user?
>>>>>
>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>> secure?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> David
>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS
>>>> - they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
>>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software programs out
>>> there.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will run
>> free equivalents for what you would need most. It's also true that
>> Linux is not inferior to anything. It's also true that there are other
>> distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu. It's also true that Linux is
>> not the only alternative to MS.
>>
>> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall disabled.
> No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you try to open
> crashes. I showed him Ubuntu. I'm installing Mint on his computer tomorrow.
>
> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yawn.

 

whs <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in
news:476aad09c24b88193d4c8c8d80f6e128@nntp-gateway.com:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> ray;1141960 Wrote: <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> > > >
>> > > I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have
>> > > some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools
>> > > supplied by Vista.
>> > >
>> > > I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the
>> > > IE
>> > code
>> > > is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>> > > impossible
>> > for
>> > > my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>> > >
>> > > The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>> > >
>> > > "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard
>> > > users,
>> > but
>> > > are able to elevate their privileges when required just by
>> > > clicking a button in a dialog box.
>> > >
>> > > (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>> > >
>> > > Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users,
>> > > although they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed.
>> > > However, they require access to an administrator password to do
>> > > so."
>> > >
>> > > Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then
>> > > why setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a
>> > > standard
>> > user?
>> > >
>> > > What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>> > > secure?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you.
>> > > David > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to
>> MS -
>> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> With all due respect, I don't think you know what you are talking
> about. You better update yourself with some professional data (
>
> curity%20-%20Socially%20Engineered%20Malware%20Q3%202009.pdf ).<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

If you were to read the entire report, what this doesn't say is that the
'browsers' don't actually block anything.

Each of them goes to some list of blocked sites maintained somewhere,
either each publisher has it available via the internet, meaning each
browser contact wherever and see if the site was blocked or not...or, it
'updates' a list it holds locally that it checks first.

At least that's what I got out of it........

So it's not really a study of which browser is more secure, its a study of
which list is kept up to date better.

 

Frank <fb@kma.com> wrote in news:4ab91e8e$1@news.x-privat.org:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> DanS wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Frank <fb@kma.com> wrote in news:4ab91336$1@news.x-privat.org:
>> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>>>>>> –verb (used with object)
>>>>>>>>> to speak or write in favor of; support or urge by argument;
>>>>>>>>> recommend publicly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> –noun
>>>>>>>>> a person who speaks or writes in support or defense of a
>>>>>>>>> person, cause, etc. (usually fol. by of): an advocate of
>>>>>>>>> peace.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just a suggestion!
>>>>>>>> OK, you win. I was advocating the usage of Ubuntu. Now what?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>> hehehe...you just publicly admitted that you are in fact a linux
>>>>>>> TROLL...something we've all been accusing you of being for
>>>>>>> years...hahaha!
>>>>>> Correction - he just admitted that sometimes he's an Ubuntu
>>>>>> Advocate.
>>>>> Correction:...he is a known and admitted lying linux
>>>>> troll...period.
>>>>>> His trolling posts have nearly vanished over the years,..
>>>>> Oh really? He post his linux spamming trolling drivel in here on a
>>>>> daily basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> but you, Frank,
>>>>> continue to post accusations and argumentative replies,
>>>>> instigating flames. Put away the matches.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets be clear...I use Vista/Windows 7 as my OS's...he doesn't. He
>>>>> is an MS hating lying linux troll...as we all know. He has
>>>>> targeted this ng as his outlet for his MS HATRED AND HIS LINUX
>>>>> SPAMMING & TROLLING. He painted the very large and very obvious
>>>>> bullseye on his back...not me. I'm just a good shot!
>>>> Let's get something straight, ok?
>>>>
>>>> He does not start topics, arguments, flames, name calling, personal
>>>> attacks, etc., the way he used to, but *you* still spend most of
>>>> your time trolling for his replies rather than discussing anything,
>>>> including Vista, with anyone else.
>>> That is simply not true. What are you?...his PR firm?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> Yes, it is completely tru. YOU are the one that calls himout and
>> starts all the lamer threads.
>> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> In your over zealous attempts to make him leave, which will never
>>>> happen, you turned into the troll. Almost all of his claims that
>>>> anyone is lying are a direct response to posts calling him a liar
>>>> first.
>>> That is because he is a known and admitted liar.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> That is what YOU claim, and for the 100 th time.......just because
>> you say something...over and over again and over again, doesn;t make
>> it true.....watch....
>>
>> Frank is intelligent.
>>
>> Frank is intelligent.
>>
>> Frank is intelligent.
>>
>> Frank is intelligent.
>>
>> Frank is intelligent.
>>
>> Frank is intelligent.
>>
>> See.....still not true.
>>
>> One by one others need to tell you that you are the problem.
>>
>> When you weren;t posting for the last week or two, it was pretty
>> quiet, a**hole wise, now your back, and I can smell the sh*t from
>> here.
>>
>>
>> (Go ahead......reply now, call me a POS loser, Dan-O, say my panties
>> are all in a bunch. Tell me to STFU.(There, did I miss anything ?))<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Why? You've just a fool out of yourself in here and you certainly
> don't need my help!...hahahah!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Sorry. I've not made a fool of myself. You just couldn't write anything
else because I predicted everything you would say. If I wouldn't have
written that, thjat would have been exactly what you said.

Oh wait...I forgot....'go f*kk yourself'. You would have said that too,
and mispelled it like that as well.

You ALWAYS reply like that.

 

ray wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:02:47 -0700, Frank wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> ray wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:33:16 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:01:34 -0500, whs wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ray;1141960 Wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have
>>>>>>>>> some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools
>>>>>>>>> supplied by Vista.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the
>>>>>>>>> IE
>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>> is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard
>>>>>>>>> users,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by
>>>>>>>>> clicking a button in a dialog box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users,
>>>>>>>>> although they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed.
>>>>>>>>> However, they require access to an administrator password to do
>>>>>>>>> so."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then
>>>>>>>>> why setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a
>>>>>>>>> standard
>>>>>>>> user?
>>>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>>>>>>>> secure?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> David > >
>>>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use
>>>>>>> it instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious
>>>>>>> about security, I would also suggest you start looking at
>>>>>>> alternatives to MS -
>>>>>>> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
>>>>>> With all due respect, I don't think you know what you are talking
>>>>>> about. You better update yourself with some professional data (
>>>>>>
>>>>> 20Security%20-%20Socially%20Engineered%20Malware%20Q3%202009.pdf
>>>>>> ).
>>>>> Note: This study does not compare browser security related
>>>>> to
>>>>> vulnerabilities in plug‐ins or the browsers themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what do you suppose it proves?
>>>> "EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
>>>> During July, 2009 NSS Labs performed the second test of web browser
>>>> protection against socially engineered malware - the most common and
>>>> impactful security threat facing Internet users today.1 This report
>>>> followed the same Live Testing methodology as the test conducted in Q1
>>>> 2009, (see: ). It is based upon
>>>> empirically validated evidence gathered during 12 days of 24x7
>>>> testing, performed every 4 hours, over 69 discrete test runs, each one
>>>> adding fresh new malware URLs. Each product was updated to the most
>>>> current version available at the time testing began, and allowed
>>>> access to the live Internet.
>>>> 1%7%21%27%81%0%20%40%60%80%Opera 10Chrome 2Safari 4Firefox 3Internet
>>>> Explorer 8Mean Block Rate for Socially Engineered Malware Internet
>>>> Explorer 8 caught 81% of the live threats, an exceptional score which
>>>> surpassed the next best browser (Firefox 3) by a 54% margin. Windows
>>>> Internet Explorer 8 improved 12% between Q1 and Q2 tests, evidence of
>>>> concerted efforts Microsoft is making in the SmartScreen technology.
>>>> Firefox 3 caught 27% of live threats, far fewer than Internet Explorer
>>>> 8. It was, however, the best among products utilizing the Google
>>>> SafeBrowsing API. (Note: Firefox 3.5 was not stable enough to be
>>>> tested during the course of this test. A patch has subsequently become
>>>> available to address the stability issue. We were able to manually
>>>> verify that the protection was identical between versions 3.0.11 and
>>>> 3.5). Safari 4 caught 21% of live threats. Overall protection varied
>>>> greatly, with two short periods of severe dips. Chrome 2 caught just
>>>> 7% of live threats an 8% drop from the previous test. Opera 10 Beta
>>>> caught a mere 1% of live threats, providing virtually no protection
>>>> against socially engineered malware. In our test bed validation, we
>>>> verified there was effectively no difference between Opera 9 and Opera
>>>> 10 Beta."
>>> I see. So basically, it's worthless.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> You mean like you or linux?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> No, frankie baby - I mean like you - since YOU bring it up.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I'm not the one spamming this Windows Vista ng with MS hatred and linux
spam, that worthless S.O.B. would you ...ray-baby!

 

Come on people! You've been ranting & raving about Ubuntu, but you haven't
answered my original e-mail. Please get with the program! Thank you.

"Frank" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > ray wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> >> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:
> >>
> >>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
> >>>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
> >>>>> Vista.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
> >>>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
> >>>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
> >>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
> >>>>> button in a dialog box.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
> >>>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
> >>>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
> >>>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
> >>>>> user?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
> >>>>> secure?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you.
> >>>>> David
> >>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use it
> >>>> instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really serious about
> >>>> security, I would also suggest you start looking at alternatives to MS
> >>>> - they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
> >>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
> >>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software programs out
> >>> there.
> >>
> >> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will run
> >> free equivalents for what you would need most. It's also true that
> >> Linux is not inferior to anything. It's also true that there are other
> >> distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu. It's also true that Linux is
> >> not the only alternative to MS.
> >>
> >> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> >
> > A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall disabled.
> > No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you try to open
> > crashes. I showed him Ubuntu. I'm installing Mint on his computer tomorrow.
> >
> > Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Yawn.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Come on people! You've been ranting & raving about Ubuntu, but you
> haven't answered my original e-mail. Please get with the program!
> Thank you.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Here's my original reply to your original post:

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> pc nerd wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
> secure?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free and
comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Thank you. David<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You're most welcome.

Alias
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Frank" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Alias wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8.
>>>>>>> I have some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with
>>>>>>> the tools supplied by Vista.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode &
>>>>>>> that the IE code is isolated from the OS code. Does that
>>>>>>> mean that it is impossible for my laptop to be infected
>>>>>>> by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista
>>>>>>> Unleashed".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as
>>>>>>> standard users, but are able to elevate their privileges
>>>>>>> when required just by clicking a button in a dialog box.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the
>>>>>>> dialog box.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged
>>>>>>> users, although they, too, can elevate their privileges
>>>>>>> when needed. However, they require access to an
>>>>>>> administrator password to do so."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard
>>>>>>> user. Then why setup a standard account when the
>>>>>>> administrator runs as a standard user?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make
>>>>>>> IE 8 more secure?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you. David
>>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox
>>>>>> and use it instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're
>>>>>> really serious about security, I would also suggest you
>>>>>> start looking at alternatives to MS - they make the least
>>>>>> secure line of systems on the planet.
>>>>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>>>>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software
>>>>> programs out there.
>>>> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will
>>>> run free equivalents for what you would need most. It's also
>>>> true that Linux is not inferior to anything. It's also true
>>>> that there are other distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu.
>>>> It's also true that Linux is not the only alternative to MS.
>>>>
>>>> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!
>>> A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall
>>> disabled. No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you
>>> try to open crashes. I showed him Ubuntu. I'm installing Mint on
>>> his computer tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> Yawn.
>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

See! You're still ranting & raving about Ubuntu! I'll have to look elsewhere
to find the answers to my questions.

"Alias" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > Come on people! You've been ranting & raving about Ubuntu, but you
> > haven't answered my original e-mail. Please get with the program!
> > Thank you.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Here's my original reply to your original post:
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > pc nerd wrote:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> >
> > What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
> > secure?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free and
> comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > Thank you. David<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You're most welcome.
>
> Alias
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > "Frank" wrote:
> > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> >> Alias wrote:
> >>> ray wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
> >>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8.
> >>>>>>> I have some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with
> >>>>>>> the tools supplied by Vista.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode &
> >>>>>>> that the IE code is isolated from the OS code. Does that
> >>>>>>> mean that it is impossible for my laptop to be infected
> >>>>>>> by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista
> >>>>>>> Unleashed".
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as
> >>>>>>> standard users, but are able to elevate their privileges
> >>>>>>> when required just by clicking a button in a dialog box.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the
> >>>>>>> dialog box.)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged
> >>>>>>> users, although they, too, can elevate their privileges
> >>>>>>> when needed. However, they require access to an
> >>>>>>> administrator password to do so."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard
> >>>>>>> user. Then why setup a standard account when the
> >>>>>>> administrator runs as a standard user?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make
> >>>>>>> IE 8 more secure?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you. David
> >>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox
> >>>>>> and use it instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're
> >>>>>> really serious about security, I would also suggest you
> >>>>>> start looking at alternatives to MS - they make the least
> >>>>>> secure line of systems on the planet.
> >>>>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
> >>>>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software
> >>>>> programs out there.
> >>>> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will
> >>>> run free equivalents for what you would need most. It's also
> >>>> true that Linux is not inferior to anything. It's also true
> >>>> that there are other distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu.
> >>>> It's also true that Linux is not the only alternative to MS.
> >>>>
> >>>> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!
> >>> A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall
> >>> disabled. No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you
> >>> try to open crashes. I showed him Ubuntu. I'm installing Mint on
> >>> his computer tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Alias
> >> Yawn.
> >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> See! You're still ranting & raving about Ubuntu! I'll have to look elsewhere
> to find the answers to my questions.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

The answer is that is can't be done. Windows and IE are, by nature, like
a sieve. If you nuke Vista and install Ubuntu, you will be secure. This
is not a rant or a rave but a fact.

Alias<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> "Alias" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Come on people! You've been ranting & raving about Ubuntu, but you
>>> haven't answered my original e-mail. Please get with the program!
>>> Thank you.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> Here's my original reply to your original post:
>>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>> secure?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> None. Nuke Vista and install a truly safe OS like Ubuntu. It's free and
>> comes with access to thousands of free programs. Get it at
>>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Thank you. David<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> You're most welcome.
>>
>> Alias
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "Frank" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:33:10 -0700, Gordon's Psychotherapist
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:7hsbitF2t9b43U58@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8.
>>>>>>>>> I have some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with
>>>>>>>>> the tools supplied by Vista.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode &
>>>>>>>>> that the IE code is isolated from the OS code. Does that
>>>>>>>>> mean that it is impossible for my laptop to be infected
>>>>>>>>> by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista
>>>>>>>>> Unleashed".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as
>>>>>>>>> standard users, but are able to elevate their privileges
>>>>>>>>> when required just by clicking a button in a dialog box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the
>>>>>>>>> dialog box.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged
>>>>>>>>> users, although they, too, can elevate their privileges
>>>>>>>>> when needed. However, they require access to an
>>>>>>>>> administrator password to do so."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard
>>>>>>>>> user. Then why setup a standard account when the
>>>>>>>>> administrator runs as a standard user?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make
>>>>>>>>> IE 8 more secure?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you. David
>>>>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox
>>>>>>>> and use it instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're
>>>>>>>> really serious about security, I would also suggest you
>>>>>>>> start looking at alternatives to MS - they make the least
>>>>>>>> secure line of systems on the planet.
>>>>>>> What a bunch of horse****. Nobody wants to use that INFERIOR
>>>>>>> Linux/Ubuntu crap. You can't run the popular software
>>>>>>> programs out there.
>>>>>> It's true that Linux won't (natively) run MS software. It will
>>>>>> run free equivalents for what you would need most. It's also
>>>>>> true that Linux is not inferior to anything. It's also true
>>>>>> that there are other distributions of Linux besides Ubuntu.
>>>>>> It's also true that Linux is not the only alternative to MS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I see you've not disputed my claims at all!
>>>>> A guy brought an XP computer over for repair today. Firewall
>>>>> disabled. No anti virus. No anti malware program. Everything you
>>>>> try to open crashes. I showed him Ubuntu. I'm installing Mint on
>>>>> his computer tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>> Yawn.
>>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:55:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
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> ray wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:02:47 -0700, Frank wrote:
>> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:33:16 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:01:34 -0500, whs wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ray;1141960 Wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I
>>>>>>>>>> have some questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the
>>>>>>>>>> tools supplied by Vista.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that
>>>>>>>>>> the IE
>>>>>>>>> code
>>>>>>>>>> is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>>>>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard
>>>>>>>>>> users,
>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by
>>>>>>>>>> clicking a button in a dialog box.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog
>>>>>>>>>> box.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users,
>>>>>>>>>> although they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed.
>>>>>>>>>> However, they require access to an administrator password to do
>>>>>>>>>> so."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user.
>>>>>>>>>> Then why setup a standard account when the administrator runs
>>>>>>>>>> as a standard
>>>>>>>>> user?
>>>>>>>>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8
>>>>>>>>>> more secure?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>> David > >
>>>>>>>> First line of defense would be to install mozilla firefox and use
>>>>>>>> it instead of IE - it's much more secure. If you're really
>>>>>>>> serious about security, I would also suggest you start looking at
>>>>>>>> alternatives to MS -
>>>>>>>> they make the least secure line of systems on the planet.
>>>>>>> With all due respect, I don't think you know what you are talking
>>>>>>> about. You better update yourself with some professional data (
>>>>>>> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
%<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>>>> 20Security%20-%20Socially%20Engineered%20Malware%20Q3%202009.pdf
>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>> Note: This study does not compare browser security
>>>>>> related to
>>>>>> vulnerabilities in plug‐ins or the browsers themselves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what do you suppose it proves?
>>>>> "EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
>>>>> During July, 2009 NSS Labs performed the second test of web browser
>>>>> protection against socially engineered malware - the most common and
>>>>> impactful security threat facing Internet users today.1 This report
>>>>> followed the same Live Testing methodology as the test conducted in
>>>>> Q1 2009, (see: ). It is based upon
>>>>> empirically validated evidence gathered during 12 days of 24x7
>>>>> testing, performed every 4 hours, over 69 discrete test runs, each
>>>>> one adding fresh new malware URLs. Each product was updated to the
>>>>> most current version available at the time testing began, and
>>>>> allowed access to the live Internet.
>>>>> 1%7%21%27%81%0%20%40%60%80%Opera 10Chrome 2Safari 4Firefox 3Internet
>>>>> Explorer 8Mean Block Rate for Socially Engineered Malware Internet
>>>>> Explorer 8 caught 81% of the live threats, an exceptional score
>>>>> which surpassed the next best browser (Firefox 3) by a 54% margin.
>>>>> Windows Internet Explorer 8 improved 12% between Q1 and Q2 tests,
>>>>> evidence of concerted efforts Microsoft is making in the SmartScreen
>>>>> technology. Firefox 3 caught 27% of live threats, far fewer than
>>>>> Internet Explorer 8. It was, however, the best among products
>>>>> utilizing the Google SafeBrowsing API. (Note: Firefox 3.5 was not
>>>>> stable enough to be tested during the course of this test. A patch
>>>>> has subsequently become available to address the stability issue. We
>>>>> were able to manually verify that the protection was identical
>>>>> between versions 3.0.11 and 3.5). Safari 4 caught 21% of live
>>>>> threats. Overall protection varied greatly, with two short periods
>>>>> of severe dips. Chrome 2 caught just 7% of live threats an 8% drop
>>>>> from the previous test. Opera 10 Beta caught a mere 1% of live
>>>>> threats, providing virtually no protection against socially
>>>>> engineered malware. In our test bed validation, we verified there
>>>>> was effectively no difference between Opera 9 and Opera 10 Beta."
>>>> I see. So basically, it's worthless.
>>> You mean like you or linux?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> No, frankie baby - I mean like you - since YOU bring it up.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> I'm not the one spamming this Windows Vista ng with MS hatred and linux
> spam, that worthless S.O.B. would you ...ray-baby!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I'm not either. I don't spread hatred and spam - but I see YOU do. I also
don't resort to profanity - the crutch of a weak mind.

 

pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Come on people! You've been ranting & raving about Ubuntu, but you haven't
> answered my original e-mail. Please get with the program! Thank you.
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:24:01 -0700, pc nerd wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> I have a laptop with 64-bit Home Premium. I'm using IE 8. I have some
>>> questions regarding "locking down" Vista with the tools supplied by
>>> Vista.
>>>
>>> I'm using IE 8. I've read that it uses protected mode & that the IE
>>> code is isolated from the OS code. Does that mean that it is
>>> impossible for my laptop to be infected by viruses, spyware, etc. ?
>>>
>>> The following is from the boook, "Windows Vista Unleashed".
>>>
>>> "Administrators group-Members of this group run as standard users, but
>>> are able to elevate their privileges when required just by clicking a
>>> button in a dialog box.
>>>
>>> (That must be why I need to click the button on the dialog box.)
>>>
>>> Standard users group-These are the least-privileged users, although
>>> they, too, can elevate their privileges when needed. However, they
>>> require access to an administrator password to do so."
>>>
>>> Well, that's confusing! Administrator runs as standard user. Then why
>>> setup a standard account when the administrator runs as a standard
>>> user?
>>>
>>> What other settings in IE 8 can I set or change to make IE 8 more
>>> secure?
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
No, Vista and IE8 are Not immune to virus or malware infections. That's
why you also need Firewalls, AntiVirus and AntiSpyware programs.

The Administrator runs as a Standard User With Extra Privileges, but a
real Standard User requires the Adminstrator password to do such things
as override the User Account Control, which prevents malware from
installing itself silently.

You can't fully lock down Vista or IE8, or any versions of Windows or
IE, you can only make it *safer* though less functional. Change all the
script and download options to either Prompt or Disabled, but this will
sometimes prevent some web pages from loading correctly.