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Discussion in 'Windows Vista' started by microsvc, Sep 22, 2009.

  1. microsvc

    microsvc Guest

    A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my extremely
    stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I clicked reboot,
    the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within seconds of
    loading the desktop.

    I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled Vista 4x, the
    last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).

    How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a restore point
    back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an error. ANY
    help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my stable Vista!

    Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    ~Bob
     
  2. David B.

    David B. Guest

    What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?

    --


    ------
    "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my extremely
    > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I clicked
    > reboot,
    > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within seconds of
    > loading the desktop.
    >
    > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled Vista 4x,
    > the
    > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    >
    > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a restore point
    > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an error. ANY
    > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my stable
    > Vista!
    >
    > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    > ~Bob <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. microsvc

    microsvc Guest

    Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails. They have
    always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may be
    happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them at this point.


    "David B." wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    >
    > --
    >
    >
    > ------
    > "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my extremely
    > > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I clicked
    > > reboot,
    > > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within seconds of
    > > loading the desktop.
    > >
    > > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled Vista 4x,
    > > the
    > > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    > >
    > > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a restore point
    > > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an error. ANY
    > > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my stable
    > > Vista!
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    > > ~Bob <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails. They have
    > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may be
    > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them at this
    > point.
    >
    >
    > "David B." wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >>
    >> ------
    >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my
    >> >extremely
    >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I clicked
    >> > reboot,
    >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within seconds
    >> > of
    >> > loading the desktop.
    >> >
    >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled Vista
    >> > 4x,
    >> > the
    >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    >> >
    >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a restore
    >> > point
    >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an error.
    >> > ANY
    >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my stable
    >> > Vista!
    >> >
    >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    >> > ~Bob<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's on the
    same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
     
  5. microsvc

    microsvc Guest

    Last known good config did not resolve this issue!

    Suggestions?

    ~Bob

    "Tae Song" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails. They have
    > > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may be
    > > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them at this
    > > point.
    > >
    > >
    > > "David B." wrote:
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> ------
    > >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...
    > >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my
    > >> >extremely
    > >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I clicked
    > >> > reboot,
    > >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within seconds
    > >> > of
    > >> > loading the desktop.
    > >> >
    > >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled Vista
    > >> > 4x,
    > >> > the
    > >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    > >> >
    > >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a restore
    > >> > point
    > >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an error.
    > >> > ANY
    > >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my stable
    > >> > Vista!
    > >> >
    > >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    > >> > ~Bob<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's on the
    > same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  6. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:15A03457-A7CA-4AE1-A2C4-0C3C8AF1E9EF@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Last known good config did not resolve this issue!
    >
    > Suggestions?
    >
    > ~Bob
    >
    > "Tae Song" wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails. They have
    >> > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may be
    >> > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them at this
    >> > point.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > "David B." wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    >> >>
    >> >> --
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> ------
    >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my
    >> >> >extremely
    >> >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I clicked
    >> >> > reboot,
    >> >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within
    >> >> > seconds
    >> >> > of
    >> >> > loading the desktop.
    >> >> >
    >> >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled Vista
    >> >> > 4x,
    >> >> > the
    >> >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    >> >> >
    >> >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a restore
    >> >> > point
    >> >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an error.
    >> >> > ANY
    >> >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my stable
    >> >> > Vista!
    >> >> >
    >> >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    >> >> > ~Bob<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >>
    >> Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's on
    >> the
    >> same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Are you sure it is Mozy? If you did a restore to a point before Mozy was
    installed/upgraded then it is unlikely the source of your problem.

    If you still think it is the source of the problem, then boot into Safe-mode
    and uninstall it or prevent it from starting at boot up.

    If you still have the problem after Mozy is uninstalled then your problem
    lies else where.

    If you can't boot up using Safe-mode then you should run diagnostics on
    memory and hard drive.

    Boot up using the Windows Vista DVD and use the built in memory tester
    overnight. If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD, Google Memtest 86,
    download an ISO burn it to a CD. Boot up with the CD and it will start a
    memory tester.

    As for the hard drive, boot up with the Windows Vista DVD and navigate your
    way to the Command Prompt and do a CHKDSK on it.

    CHKDSK C: /R /X /V

    /R - Surface scan for defects and check for file record consistency and fix
    any problems found
    /X - Take the volume offline for scanning
    /V - Verbose - display more information as to what CHKDSK is doing

    /F - same as /R but doesn't do surface scan, faster but not as thorough


    If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD then Google Ultimate Boot CD for
    Windows and download an ISO and burn it to a CD and boot up with it.
     
  7. microsvc

    microsvc Guest

    I actually placed the uninstall link in the startup group, but it froze up
    before it completed (the HDD light was blinking still after freeze, so I let
    it go). There is still MOZYFILTER in the the registry and the system will
    not let me delete it (all in safe mode). How may I remove this?

    Is there anyway I can see whats hooked into my NIC and Video???

    I cannot uninstall anything in safe mode as I get a message the uninstaller
    will not run in safe mode.

    I have a raid system for c:, but I will attempt the disk & memory test and
    report the results




    "Tae Song" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:15A03457-A7CA-4AE1-A2C4-0C3C8AF1E9EF@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Last known good config did not resolve this issue!
    > >
    > > Suggestions?
    > >
    > > ~Bob
    > >
    > > "Tae Song" wrote:
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...
    > >> > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails. They have
    > >> > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may be
    > >> > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them at this
    > >> > point.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > "David B." wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    > >> >>
    > >> >> --
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >> ------
    > >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...
    > >> >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my
    > >> >> >extremely
    > >> >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I clicked
    > >> >> > reboot,
    > >> >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within
    > >> >> > seconds
    > >> >> > of
    > >> >> > loading the desktop.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled Vista
    > >> >> > 4x,
    > >> >> > the
    > >> >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a restore
    > >> >> > point
    > >> >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an error.
    > >> >> > ANY
    > >> >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my stable
    > >> >> > Vista!
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    > >> >> > ~Bob
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's on
    > >> the
    > >> same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
    > >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Are you sure it is Mozy? If you did a restore to a point before Mozy was
    > installed/upgraded then it is unlikely the source of your problem.
    >
    > If you still think it is the source of the problem, then boot into Safe-mode
    > and uninstall it or prevent it from starting at boot up.
    >
    > If you still have the problem after Mozy is uninstalled then your problem
    > lies else where.
    >
    > If you can't boot up using Safe-mode then you should run diagnostics on
    > memory and hard drive.
    >
    > Boot up using the Windows Vista DVD and use the built in memory tester
    > overnight. If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD, Google Memtest 86,
    > download an ISO burn it to a CD. Boot up with the CD and it will start a
    > memory tester.
    >
    > As for the hard drive, boot up with the Windows Vista DVD and navigate your
    > way to the Command Prompt and do a CHKDSK on it.
    >
    > CHKDSK C: /R /X /V
    >
    > /R - Surface scan for defects and check for file record consistency and fix
    > any problems found
    > /X - Take the volume offline for scanning
    > /V - Verbose - display more information as to what CHKDSK is doing
    >
    > /F - same as /R but doesn't do surface scan, faster but not as thorough
    >
    >
    > If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD then Google Ultimate Boot CD for
    > Windows and download an ISO and burn it to a CD and boot up with it.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  8. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:39CD9D72-5840-45FA-9D82-02B281883125@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I actually placed the uninstall link in the startup group, but it froze up
    > before it completed (the HDD light was blinking still after freeze, so I
    > let
    > it go). There is still MOZYFILTER in the the registry and the system will
    > not let me delete it (all in safe mode). How may I remove this?
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Focus on getting Windows to boot normally first. You just need to disable
    Mozy or whatever program that is causing the problem so you can boot to
    normal Windows.

    If you can boot up into safe-mode, then that means some software in the
    startup is causing the problem.

    You should be disabling third party software that start up during boot not
    adding to it.

    You assumption is that it's Mozy, so start MSConfig, go to the Startup tab
    and disable it.

    If Windows still locks up reboot, then rethink your assumption and disable
    the other software in the Startup tab.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Is there anyway I can see whats hooked into my NIC and Video???
    >
    > I cannot uninstall anything in safe mode as I get a message the
    > uninstaller
    > will not run in safe mode.
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    It just means Mozy uses Windows Installer services, which is disabled in
    safe-mode. Packages with it's own install programs should still be able to
    uninstall in safe-mode.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I have a raid system for c:, but I will attempt the disk & memory test and
    > report the results
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    If you can into safe mode you might not need to do this yet.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    >
    >
    > "Tae Song" wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:15A03457-A7CA-4AE1-A2C4-0C3C8AF1E9EF@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > Last known good config did not resolve this issue!
    >> >
    >> > Suggestions?
    >> >
    >> > ~Bob
    >> >
    >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...
    >> >> > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails. They
    >> >> > have
    >> >> > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may be
    >> >> > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them at
    >> >> > this
    >> >> > point.
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> > "David B." wrote:
    >> >> >
    >> >> >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> --
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> ------
    >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my
    >> >> >> >extremely
    >> >> >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I
    >> >> >> > clicked
    >> >> >> > reboot,
    >> >> >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within
    >> >> >> > seconds
    >> >> >> > of
    >> >> >> > loading the desktop.
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled
    >> >> >> > Vista
    >> >> >> > 4x,
    >> >> >> > the
    >> >> >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a
    >> >> >> > restore
    >> >> >> > point
    >> >> >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an
    >> >> >> > error.
    >> >> >> > ANY
    >> >> >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my
    >> >> >> > stable
    >> >> >> > Vista!
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    >> >> >> > ~Bob
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's on
    >> >> the
    >> >> same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
    >> >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >>
    >> Are you sure it is Mozy? If you did a restore to a point before Mozy was
    >> installed/upgraded then it is unlikely the source of your problem.
    >>
    >> If you still think it is the source of the problem, then boot into
    >> Safe-mode
    >> and uninstall it or prevent it from starting at boot up.
    >>
    >> If you still have the problem after Mozy is uninstalled then your problem
    >> lies else where.
    >>
    >> If you can't boot up using Safe-mode then you should run diagnostics on
    >> memory and hard drive.
    >>
    >> Boot up using the Windows Vista DVD and use the built in memory tester
    >> overnight. If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD, Google Memtest 86,
    >> download an ISO burn it to a CD. Boot up with the CD and it will start a
    >> memory tester.
    >>
    >> As for the hard drive, boot up with the Windows Vista DVD and navigate
    >> your
    >> way to the Command Prompt and do a CHKDSK on it.
    >>
    >> CHKDSK C: /R /X /V
    >>
    >> /R - Surface scan for defects and check for file record consistency and
    >> fix
    >> any problems found
    >> /X - Take the volume offline for scanning
    >> /V - Verbose - display more information as to what CHKDSK is doing
    >>
    >> /F - same as /R but doesn't do surface scan, faster but not as thorough
    >>
    >>
    >> If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD then Google Ultimate Boot CD for
    >> Windows and download an ISO and burn it to a CD and boot up with it.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  9. microsvc

    microsvc Guest

    Thanks for that info, which I will do later. I'm familiar with msconfig as I
    routinely disable things from running at startup. Windows does boot
    normally, I can login, but within 15 seconds, it freezes (the HDD light keeps
    doing its thing).

    I ran the memory test from the DVD, and it says the results will be
    displayed when I login after reboot, but it freezes so I cannot get the
    results. Is it saved in a file I can view in safe mode?

    The chkdsk wont work with the options specified as I get a message that the
    drive is NTFS and is locked. Even /x wont do it. I have a raid system for
    c:, could that be causing these options not to work? I ran chkdsk by itself
    and no errors were found.

    Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!

    ~bOb


    "Tae Song" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:39CD9D72-5840-45FA-9D82-02B281883125@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > I actually placed the uninstall link in the startup group, but it froze up
    > > before it completed (the HDD light was blinking still after freeze, so I
    > > let
    > > it go). There is still MOZYFILTER in the the registry and the system will
    > > not let me delete it (all in safe mode). How may I remove this?
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Focus on getting Windows to boot normally first. You just need to disable
    > Mozy or whatever program that is causing the problem so you can boot to
    > normal Windows.
    >
    > If you can boot up into safe-mode, then that means some software in the
    > startup is causing the problem.
    >
    > You should be disabling third party software that start up during boot not
    > adding to it.
    >
    > You assumption is that it's Mozy, so start MSConfig, go to the Startup tab
    > and disable it.
    >
    > If Windows still locks up reboot, then rethink your assumption and disable
    > the other software in the Startup tab.
    >
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Is there anyway I can see whats hooked into my NIC and Video???
    > >
    > > I cannot uninstall anything in safe mode as I get a message the
    > > uninstaller
    > > will not run in safe mode.
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > It just means Mozy uses Windows Installer services, which is disabled in
    > safe-mode. Packages with it's own install programs should still be able to
    > uninstall in safe-mode.
    >
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > I have a raid system for c:, but I will attempt the disk & memory test and
    > > report the results
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > If you can into safe mode you might not need to do this yet.
    >
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > "Tae Song" wrote:
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:15A03457-A7CA-4AE1-A2C4-0C3C8AF1E9EF@microsoft.com...
    > >> > Last known good config did not resolve this issue!
    > >> >
    > >> > Suggestions?
    > >> >
    > >> > ~Bob
    > >> >
    > >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...
    > >> >> > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails. They
    > >> >> > have
    > >> >> > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may be
    > >> >> > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them at
    > >> >> > this
    > >> >> > point.
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > "David B." wrote:
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> --
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> ------
    > >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...
    > >> >> >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on my
    > >> >> >> >extremely
    > >> >> >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I
    > >> >> >> > clicked
    > >> >> >> > reboot,
    > >> >> >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within
    > >> >> >> > seconds
    > >> >> >> > of
    > >> >> >> > loading the desktop.
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled
    > >> >> >> > Vista
    > >> >> >> > 4x,
    > >> >> >> > the
    > >> >> >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a
    > >> >> >> > restore
    > >> >> >> > point
    > >> >> >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an
    > >> >> >> > error.
    > >> >> >> > ANY
    > >> >> >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my
    > >> >> >> > stable
    > >> >> >> > Vista!
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    > >> >> >> > ~Bob
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's on
    > >> >> the
    > >> >> same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
    > >> >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Are you sure it is Mozy? If you did a restore to a point before Mozy was
    > >> installed/upgraded then it is unlikely the source of your problem.
    > >>
    > >> If you still think it is the source of the problem, then boot into
    > >> Safe-mode
    > >> and uninstall it or prevent it from starting at boot up.
    > >>
    > >> If you still have the problem after Mozy is uninstalled then your problem
    > >> lies else where.
    > >>
    > >> If you can't boot up using Safe-mode then you should run diagnostics on
    > >> memory and hard drive.
    > >>
    > >> Boot up using the Windows Vista DVD and use the built in memory tester
    > >> overnight. If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD, Google Memtest 86,
    > >> download an ISO burn it to a CD. Boot up with the CD and it will start a
    > >> memory tester.
    > >>
    > >> As for the hard drive, boot up with the Windows Vista DVD and navigate
    > >> your
    > >> way to the Command Prompt and do a CHKDSK on it.
    > >>
    > >> CHKDSK C: /R /X /V
    > >>
    > >> /R - Surface scan for defects and check for file record consistency and
    > >> fix
    > >> any problems found
    > >> /X - Take the volume offline for scanning
    > >> /V - Verbose - display more information as to what CHKDSK is doing
    > >>
    > >> /F - same as /R but doesn't do surface scan, faster but not as thorough
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD then Google Ultimate Boot CD for
    > >> Windows and download an ISO and burn it to a CD and boot up with it.
    > >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  10. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:42143C25-69C1-4961-8606-7F6CCFA001C1@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Thanks for that info, which I will do later. I'm familiar with msconfig
    > as I
    > routinely disable things from running at startup. Windows does boot
    > normally, I can login, but within 15 seconds, it freezes (the HDD light
    > keeps
    > doing its thing).
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Let me reiterate, if you can get into safe-mode OK but having problems under
    normal boot then you should be looking for software or services that is not
    active under safe-mode as your list of suspects.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I ran the memory test from the DVD, and it says the results will be
    > displayed when I login after reboot, but it freezes so I cannot get the
    > results. Is it saved in a file I can view in safe mode?
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    It goes to the Event Log, use Event Viewer.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > The chkdsk wont work with the options specified as I get a message that
    > the
    > drive is NTFS and is locked. Even /x wont do it. I have a raid system
    > for
    > c:, could that be causing these options not to work? I ran chkdsk by
    > itself
    > and no errors were found.
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    That only checks for file consistency, but information you provided seems to
    strongly suggest that software at start up as being the source of the
    problem.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!
    >
    > ~bOb
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Always welcome.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Tae Song" wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:39CD9D72-5840-45FA-9D82-02B281883125@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > I actually placed the uninstall link in the startup group, but it froze
    >> > up
    >> > before it completed (the HDD light was blinking still after freeze, so
    >> > I
    >> > let
    >> > it go). There is still MOZYFILTER in the the registry and the system
    >> > will
    >> > not let me delete it (all in safe mode). How may I remove this?
    >> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Focus on getting Windows to boot normally first. You just need to
    >> disable
    >> Mozy or whatever program that is causing the problem so you can boot to
    >> normal Windows.
    >>
    >> If you can boot up into safe-mode, then that means some software in the
    >> startup is causing the problem.
    >>
    >> You should be disabling third party software that start up during boot
    >> not
    >> adding to it.
    >>
    >> You assumption is that it's Mozy, so start MSConfig, go to the Startup
    >> tab
    >> and disable it.
    >>
    >> If Windows still locks up reboot, then rethink your assumption and
    >> disable
    >> the other software in the Startup tab.
    >>
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > Is there anyway I can see whats hooked into my NIC and Video???
    >> >
    >> > I cannot uninstall anything in safe mode as I get a message the
    >> > uninstaller
    >> > will not run in safe mode.
    >> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> It just means Mozy uses Windows Installer services, which is disabled in
    >> safe-mode. Packages with it's own install programs should still be able
    >> to
    >> uninstall in safe-mode.
    >>
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > I have a raid system for c:, but I will attempt the disk & memory test
    >> > and
    >> > report the results
    >> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> If you can into safe mode you might not need to do this yet.
    >>
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> news:15A03457-A7CA-4AE1-A2C4-0C3C8AF1E9EF@microsoft.com...
    >> >> > Last known good config did not resolve this issue!
    >> >> >
    >> >> > Suggestions?
    >> >> >
    >> >> > ~Bob
    >> >> >
    >> >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    >> >> >
    >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> >> news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >> > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails.
    >> >> >> > They
    >> >> >> > have
    >> >> >> > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may
    >> >> >> > be
    >> >> >> > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them
    >> >> >> > at
    >> >> >> > this
    >> >> >> > point.
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > "David B." wrote:
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> --
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> ------
    >> >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> >> >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >> >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on
    >> >> >> >> >my
    >> >> >> >> >extremely
    >> >> >> >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I
    >> >> >> >> > clicked
    >> >> >> >> > reboot,
    >> >> >> >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within
    >> >> >> >> > seconds
    >> >> >> >> > of
    >> >> >> >> > loading the desktop.
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled
    >> >> >> >> > Vista
    >> >> >> >> > 4x,
    >> >> >> >> > the
    >> >> >> >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a
    >> >> >> >> > restore
    >> >> >> >> > point
    >> >> >> >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an
    >> >> >> >> > error.
    >> >> >> >> > ANY
    >> >> >> >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my
    >> >> >> >> > stable
    >> >> >> >> > Vista!
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    >> >> >> >> > ~Bob
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's
    >> >> >> on
    >> >> >> the
    >> >> >> same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
    >> >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> Are you sure it is Mozy? If you did a restore to a point before Mozy
    >> >> was
    >> >> installed/upgraded then it is unlikely the source of your problem.
    >> >>
    >> >> If you still think it is the source of the problem, then boot into
    >> >> Safe-mode
    >> >> and uninstall it or prevent it from starting at boot up.
    >> >>
    >> >> If you still have the problem after Mozy is uninstalled then your
    >> >> problem
    >> >> lies else where.
    >> >>
    >> >> If you can't boot up using Safe-mode then you should run diagnostics
    >> >> on
    >> >> memory and hard drive.
    >> >>
    >> >> Boot up using the Windows Vista DVD and use the built in memory tester
    >> >> overnight. If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD, Google Memtest 86,
    >> >> download an ISO burn it to a CD. Boot up with the CD and it will
    >> >> start a
    >> >> memory tester.
    >> >>
    >> >> As for the hard drive, boot up with the Windows Vista DVD and navigate
    >> >> your
    >> >> way to the Command Prompt and do a CHKDSK on it.
    >> >>
    >> >> CHKDSK C: /R /X /V
    >> >>
    >> >> /R - Surface scan for defects and check for file record consistency
    >> >> and
    >> >> fix
    >> >> any problems found
    >> >> /X - Take the volume offline for scanning
    >> >> /V - Verbose - display more information as to what CHKDSK is doing
    >> >>
    >> >> /F - same as /R but doesn't do surface scan, faster but not as
    >> >> thorough
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD then Google Ultimate Boot CD for
    >> >> Windows and download an ISO and burn it to a CD and boot up with it.
    >> >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  11. microsvc

    microsvc Guest

    Tae, I have unchecked everything in Startup (a few in services) and it still
    freezes. I am still experimenting with services. Anyway, it still freezes
    when I start in low-resolution (640x480), and Im wondering what the choice
    "Debugging Mode" is and if there's something that goes further into whats
    starting/running outside of ntbtlog.txt. There has to be a way to find out
    exactly whats causing this outside of trial-and-error. Thanks! ~Bob


    "Tae Song" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:42143C25-69C1-4961-8606-7F6CCFA001C1@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Thanks for that info, which I will do later. I'm familiar with msconfig
    > > as I
    > > routinely disable things from running at startup. Windows does boot
    > > normally, I can login, but within 15 seconds, it freezes (the HDD light
    > > keeps
    > > doing its thing).
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Let me reiterate, if you can get into safe-mode OK but having problems under
    > normal boot then you should be looking for software or services that is not
    > active under safe-mode as your list of suspects.
    >
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > I ran the memory test from the DVD, and it says the results will be
    > > displayed when I login after reboot, but it freezes so I cannot get the
    > > results. Is it saved in a file I can view in safe mode?
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > It goes to the Event Log, use Event Viewer.
    >
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > The chkdsk wont work with the options specified as I get a message that
    > > the
    > > drive is NTFS and is locked. Even /x wont do it. I have a raid system
    > > for
    > > c:, could that be causing these options not to work? I ran chkdsk by
    > > itself
    > > and no errors were found.
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > That only checks for file consistency, but information you provided seems to
    > strongly suggest that software at start up as being the source of the
    > problem.
    >
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!
    > >
    > > ~bOb
    > ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Always welcome.
    >
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > >
    > > "Tae Song" wrote:
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >>
    > >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:39CD9D72-5840-45FA-9D82-02B281883125@microsoft.com...
    > >> > I actually placed the uninstall link in the startup group, but it froze
    > >> > up
    > >> > before it completed (the HDD light was blinking still after freeze, so
    > >> > I
    > >> > let
    > >> > it go). There is still MOZYFILTER in the the registry and the system
    > >> > will
    > >> > not let me delete it (all in safe mode). How may I remove this?
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> Focus on getting Windows to boot normally first. You just need to
    > >> disable
    > >> Mozy or whatever program that is causing the problem so you can boot to
    > >> normal Windows.
    > >>
    > >> If you can boot up into safe-mode, then that means some software in the
    > >> startup is causing the problem.
    > >>
    > >> You should be disabling third party software that start up during boot
    > >> not
    > >> adding to it.
    > >>
    > >> You assumption is that it's Mozy, so start MSConfig, go to the Startup
    > >> tab
    > >> and disable it.
    > >>
    > >> If Windows still locks up reboot, then rethink your assumption and
    > >> disable
    > >> the other software in the Startup tab.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> > Is there anyway I can see whats hooked into my NIC and Video???
    > >> >
    > >> > I cannot uninstall anything in safe mode as I get a message the
    > >> > uninstaller
    > >> > will not run in safe mode.
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> It just means Mozy uses Windows Installer services, which is disabled in
    > >> safe-mode. Packages with it's own install programs should still be able
    > >> to
    > >> uninstall in safe-mode.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> > I have a raid system for c:, but I will attempt the disk & memory test
    > >> > and
    > >> > report the results
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> If you can into safe mode you might not need to do this yet.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> news:15A03457-A7CA-4AE1-A2C4-0C3C8AF1E9EF@microsoft.com...
    > >> >> > Last known good config did not resolve this issue!
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > Suggestions?
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > ~Bob
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    > >> >> >
    > >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> >> news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...
    > >> >> >> > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails.
    > >> >> >> > They
    > >> >> >> > have
    > >> >> >> > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may
    > >> >> >> > be
    > >> >> >> > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them
    > >> >> >> > at
    > >> >> >> > this
    > >> >> >> > point.
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> > "David B." wrote:
    > >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> --
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> >> ------
    > >> >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> >> >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...
    > >> >> >> >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on
    > >> >> >> >> >my
    > >> >> >> >> >extremely
    > >> >> >> >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I
    > >> >> >> >> > clicked
    > >> >> >> >> > reboot,
    > >> >> >> >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within
    > >> >> >> >> > seconds
    > >> >> >> >> > of
    > >> >> >> >> > loading the desktop.
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled
    > >> >> >> >> > Vista
    > >> >> >> >> > 4x,
    > >> >> >> >> > the
    > >> >> >> >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a
    > >> >> >> >> > restore
    > >> >> >> >> > point
    > >> >> >> >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an
    > >> >> >> >> > error.
    > >> >> >> >> > ANY
    > >> >> >> >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my
    > >> >> >> >> > stable
    > >> >> >> >> > Vista!
    > >> >> >> >> >
    > >> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    > >> >> >> >> > ~Bob
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >> >> Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's
    > >> >> >> on
    > >> >> >> the
    > >> >> >> same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
    > >> >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Are you sure it is Mozy? If you did a restore to a point before Mozy
    > >> >> was
    > >> >> installed/upgraded then it is unlikely the source of your problem.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> If you still think it is the source of the problem, then boot into
    > >> >> Safe-mode
    > >> >> and uninstall it or prevent it from starting at boot up.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> If you still have the problem after Mozy is uninstalled then your
    > >> >> problem
    > >> >> lies else where.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> If you can't boot up using Safe-mode then you should run diagnostics
    > >> >> on
    > >> >> memory and hard drive.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> Boot up using the Windows Vista DVD and use the built in memory tester
    > >> >> overnight. If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD, Google Memtest 86,
    > >> >> download an ISO burn it to a CD. Boot up with the CD and it will
    > >> >> start a
    > >> >> memory tester.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> As for the hard drive, boot up with the Windows Vista DVD and navigate
    > >> >> your
    > >> >> way to the Command Prompt and do a CHKDSK on it.
    > >> >>
    > >> >> CHKDSK C: /R /X /V
    > >> >>
    > >> >> /R - Surface scan for defects and check for file record consistency
    > >> >> and
    > >> >> fix
    > >> >> any problems found
    > >> >> /X - Take the volume offline for scanning
    > >> >> /V - Verbose - display more information as to what CHKDSK is doing
    > >> >>
    > >> >> /F - same as /R but doesn't do surface scan, faster but not as
    > >> >> thorough
    > >> >>
    > >> >>
    > >> >> If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD then Google Ultimate Boot CD for
    > >> >> Windows and download an ISO and burn it to a CD and boot up with it.
    > >> >>
    > >>
    > >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  12. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:53341216-6825-4B25-B684-963E033E76FF@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Tae, I have unchecked everything in Startup (a few in services) and it still
    > freezes. I am still experimenting with services. Anyway, it still freezes
    > when I start in low-resolution (640x480), and Im wondering what the choice
    > "Debugging Mode" is and if there's something that goes further into whats
    > starting/running outside of ntbtlog.txt. There has to be a way to find out
    > exactly whats causing this outside of trial-and-error. Thanks! ~Bob
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    By "start in low-resolution" do you mean you are using the standard SVGA video driver?

    Changing video resolution doesn't necessarily mean you stopped using the video card specific driver.

    You could check event viewer in safe mode for further leads.

    Debugging Mode:


    Never got around to messing with that.

    There's also drivers... audio, network, webcam, scanners, TV tuner, virtual drive (Daemon tools) device drivers, etc.

    Does Mozy install a virtual drive device driver?

    You might want to disconnect any extraneous hardware you are not using while you troubleshoot.

    Other things you could try, disable page file for troubleshooting purposes.

    Rename DfrgNtfs.exe, my system locks up if my computer is idle and starts defrag.. I doubt this is it in your case, but I am thowing it out there for any possible source to the problem.

    Do you have anything on the desktop? Media files maybe? Malformed media or incorrect codec settings can cause problems for Windows Explorer when it does automatic thumbnail extraction. Usually causes Explorer to shutdown and restart... in a loop... if it's on the Desktop. I'm just throwing everything and anything I can think of...


    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "Tae Song" wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> news:42143C25-69C1-4961-8606-7F6CCFA001C1@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > Thanks for that info, which I will do later. I'm familiar with msconfig
    >> > as I
    >> > routinely disable things from running at startup. Windows does boot
    >> > normally, I can login, but within 15 seconds, it freezes (the HDD light
    >> > keeps
    >> > doing its thing).
    >> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Let me reiterate, if you can get into safe-mode OK but having problems under
    >> normal boot then you should be looking for software or services that is not
    >> active under safe-mode as your list of suspects.
    >>
    >> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > I ran the memory test from the DVD, and it says the results will be
    >> > displayed when I login after reboot, but it freezes so I cannot get the
    >> > results. Is it saved in a file I can view in safe mode?
    >> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> It goes to the Event Log, use Event Viewer.
    >>
    >> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > The chkdsk wont work with the options specified as I get a message that
    >> > the
    >> > drive is NTFS and is locked. Even /x wont do it. I have a raid system
    >> > for
    >> > c:, could that be causing these options not to work? I ran chkdsk by
    >> > itself
    >> > and no errors were found.
    >> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> That only checks for file consistency, but information you provided seems to
    >> strongly suggest that software at start up as being the source of the
    >> problem.
    >>
    >> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!
    >> >
    >> > ~bOb
    >> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Always welcome.
    >>
    >> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> >
    >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> news:39CD9D72-5840-45FA-9D82-02B281883125@microsoft.com...
    >> >> > I actually placed the uninstall link in the startup group, but it froze
    >> >> > up
    >> >> > before it completed (the HDD light was blinking still after freeze, so
    >> >> > I
    >> >> > let
    >> >> > it go). There is still MOZYFILTER in the the registry and the system
    >> >> > will
    >> >> > not let me delete it (all in safe mode). How may I remove this?
    >> >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> Focus on getting Windows to boot normally first. You just need to
    >> >> disable
    >> >> Mozy or whatever program that is causing the problem so you can boot to
    >> >> normal Windows.
    >> >>
    >> >> If you can boot up into safe-mode, then that means some software in the
    >> >> startup is causing the problem.
    >> >>
    >> >> You should be disabling third party software that start up during boot
    >> >> not
    >> >> adding to it.
    >> >>
    >> >> You assumption is that it's Mozy, so start MSConfig, go to the Startup
    >> >> tab
    >> >> and disable it.
    >> >>
    >> >> If Windows still locks up reboot, then rethink your assumption and
    >> >> disable
    >> >> the other software in the Startup tab.
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> > Is there anyway I can see whats hooked into my NIC and Video???
    >> >> >
    >> >> > I cannot uninstall anything in safe mode as I get a message the
    >> >> > uninstaller
    >> >> > will not run in safe mode.
    >> >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> It just means Mozy uses Windows Installer services, which is disabled in
    >> >> safe-mode. Packages with it's own install programs should still be able
    >> >> to
    >> >> uninstall in safe-mode.
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> > I have a raid system for c:, but I will attempt the disk & memory test
    >> >> > and
    >> >> > report the results
    >> >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> If you can into safe mode you might not need to do this yet.
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    >> >> >
    >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> >> news:15A03457-A7CA-4AE1-A2C4-0C3C8AF1E9EF@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >> > Last known good config did not resolve this issue!
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > Suggestions?
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > ~Bob
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> > "Tae Song" wrote:
    >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> >> >> news:3DBAB627-63D1-46FF-B177-CEB38A477BB3@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >> >> > Mozy support has not responded to my support request emails.
    >> >> >> >> > They
    >> >> >> >> > have
    >> >> >> >> > always responded promptly in the past. This tells me that it may
    >> >> >> >> > be
    >> >> >> >> > happening to many people. I've gotten very impatient with them
    >> >> >> >> > at
    >> >> >> >> > this
    >> >> >> >> > point.
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> > "David B." wrote:
    >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> What does Mozy support say about the cause of the problem?
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> --
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> >> ------
    >> >> >> >> >> "microsvc" <microsvc@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >> >> >> >> >> news:E87264D8-7066-4187-8BD9-FDC0B203DD67@microsoft.com...
    >> >> >> >> >> >A few days ago, MOZY.com online backup installed an update on
    >> >> >> >> >> >my
    >> >> >> >> >> >extremely
    >> >> >> >> >> > stable Vista Home Premium. It asked me to reboot and when I
    >> >> >> >> >> > clicked
    >> >> >> >> >> > reboot,
    >> >> >> >> >> > the system froze up. Every time I boot, it will freeze within
    >> >> >> >> >> > seconds
    >> >> >> >> >> > of
    >> >> >> >> >> > loading the desktop.
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> > I would seriously love to get this fixed as I have reinstalled
    >> >> >> >> >> > Vista
    >> >> >> >> >> > 4x,
    >> >> >> >> >> > the
    >> >> >> >> >> > last being 18-months ago (Thanks to SP1).
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> > How may I resolve OR troubleshoot this issue? I have done a
    >> >> >> >> >> > restore
    >> >> >> >> >> > point
    >> >> >> >> >> > back 2 weeks, but thats as far as I can go without getting an
    >> >> >> >> >> > error.
    >> >> >> >> >> > ANY
    >> >> >> >> >> > help would be greatly appreciated, as I have grown to like my
    >> >> >> >> >> > stable
    >> >> >> >> >> > Vista!
    >> >> >> >> >> >
    >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance for all your tips and ideas.
    >> >> >> >> >> > ~Bob
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >> >> Have tried booting with last known good configuration option. It's
    >> >> >> >> on
    >> >> >> >> the
    >> >> >> >> same screen during boot as safe-mode options.
    >> >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> Are you sure it is Mozy? If you did a restore to a point before Mozy
    >> >> >> was
    >> >> >> installed/upgraded then it is unlikely the source of your problem.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> If you still think it is the source of the problem, then boot into
    >> >> >> Safe-mode
    >> >> >> and uninstall it or prevent it from starting at boot up.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> If you still have the problem after Mozy is uninstalled then your
    >> >> >> problem
    >> >> >> lies else where.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> If you can't boot up using Safe-mode then you should run diagnostics
    >> >> >> on
    >> >> >> memory and hard drive.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> Boot up using the Windows Vista DVD and use the built in memory tester
    >> >> >> overnight. If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD, Google Memtest 86,
    >> >> >> download an ISO burn it to a CD. Boot up with the CD and it will
    >> >> >> start a
    >> >> >> memory tester.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> As for the hard drive, boot up with the Windows Vista DVD and navigate
    >> >> >> your
    >> >> >> way to the Command Prompt and do a CHKDSK on it.
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> CHKDSK C: /R /X /V
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> /R - Surface scan for defects and check for file record consistency
    >> >> >> and
    >> >> >> fix
    >> >> >> any problems found
    >> >> >> /X - Take the volume offline for scanning
    >> >> >> /V - Verbose - display more information as to what CHKDSK is doing
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> /F - same as /R but doesn't do surface scan, faster but not as
    >> >> >> thorough
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> If you don't have a Windows Vista DVD then Google Ultimate Boot CD for
    >> >> >> Windows and download an ISO and burn it to a CD and boot up with it.
    >> >> >>
    >> >>
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