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  1. Paul Smith

    Paul Smith Guest

    "Stan Starinski" <StopUnfairFreetrade@chinastealsUSAjobs.org> wrote in
    message news:OmQOrQWBKHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Wrong answer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Sorry Stan, how is what I said the wrong answer?

    You're not even thoughtful enough to quote in what you're reply to.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Before you slap tha t"MVP" title to your name, get educated at a REAL
    > college, not by reading Wikipedia.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > He didin't waste money on 4GB, if he wasted it was 25 cents probably,
    > maybe in UK memory costs, but here in USA memory is dirt cheap.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    He asked if he wasted money going for 4GB. The answer is "basically yes"
    nobody tried to qualify how much money. Without more information, like if
    it was extra money over 2GB for example, or 3GB its hard to say how much
    money.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Because we're not a Socialist country.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Neither am I, try reading my signature.

    --
    Paul Smith,
    Yeovil, UK.
    Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience.
     
    Paul Smith, Jul 15, 2009
    #21
  3. Stan Starinski

    Stan Starinski Guest

    You can get 4GB here for $30 generic (PNY), or $40 for elite (Corsair, QCZ,
    Mushkin), or something in between (Kingston, Micron?).
    If you look hard, e.g. at Newegg (I used to deal with Egghead before it went
    out of business?), Amazon, ZipZoomFly)

    And yes even for a laptop, I got 4GB Corsairs (2+2GB) for $40 at Amazon.com
    Out of 4GB you get 3.25GB usable space, what is the waste?
    A few cents? And would even $10 be painful to lose for RELIABILITY because
    4GB is more stable than 3GB due to assymetry (1+3 versus 2+2GB)?

    Not a waste of money.
    A sandwich costs $6 in midtown Manhattan, so memory is like dirt - a few
    sandwiches that serve you for several years and you can be satsified having
    memory MAXED OUT for $40.
    And not everyone has to shoot for the best like myself (I only buy
    NorthAmerican or Euro-made, not Taiwanese), not everyone needs Corsairs or
    Mushkin, a basic Kingston module will cost so little it's a sin not to buy.

    You know what I did with old 2GB (1+1GB) I replaced with 4GB?
    Threw into trash! The most I could get for it would be 5 bucks, not worth
    selling - too much time posting ads.
    Technology costs more in UK - a country of Charlse Babbage, etc. godfathers
    of Computing, Radars, Trains, and the best technology language - ENGLISH!
    Civilizations rise & fall, but the good news we're nothing but your
    offspring, and you're our parent so there's continuity. My bosses were
    often Irish, coworker is English-Irish, just a few examples.

    Again memory is too cheap to worry about losing 0.75GB - that's your loss in
    32 bit environment, 0.75GB, no big deal.
    I know coming from 1980's perspective when 32KILObyte was considered serious
    memory, this 0.75GB is jaw-dropping waste, but wake up, it's 2009.
    In late 1980's I built a British-designed SinclairZXSpectrum based on
    American Z80A microprocessor (not like today from pre-made modules a teenage
    moron can assemble, but actully SOLDER/BUILD motherboards & etc boards from
    zero), it had a "whopping" 64KB memory and we bragged to other folks who
    built a domestic model with 32KB.
    But a decade later of course it seemed funny, 32KB... we'll soon be
    installing 32 GIGAbyte by year 2012.

    Today memory is cheap, buy more, stimulate economy and run those Electronic
    Engineering jobs down into the ground, because this is what rat race to the
    bottom is about.
    And rememeber we're brothers & sisters - USA and UK heheheheh, let's go down
    together.
     
    Stan Starinski, Jul 15, 2009
    #22
  4. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
    news:h3l2h5$lq4$2@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Peter Foldes wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Mike
    >>
    >> He knows very well. It just gives him pleasure to not answer correctly to
    >> any OP that needs help or advice when it comes to Vista. Wonder if
    >> anybody did the same to him when he was learning or had an issue with a
    >> computer and did not know the answer.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > I know where to get answers and it ain't here.
    >
    > Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I doubt it. You have showed that you have major reading comprehension
    problems. Must be because you are so busy smoking BOWLs all day long. You
    know, you have to spend some of that imaginary $14k a week you claim to get!
    HA HA HA HA HA
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 15, 2009
    #23
  5. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
    news:h3l2g5$lq4$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Mike Brannigan wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "Alias" <iamaliasTAK3THIS@OUTOFHEREgmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:h3ks87$421$4@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> colin.t wrote:
    >>>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have 4GB RAM
    >>>> installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM. Have I wasted
    >>>> money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me please?
    >>>
    >>> Don't worry about it. There are plenty of important things to worry
    >>> about and RAM in this case just isn't one of them. With the BIG PIG
    >>> Vista, the more RAM, the better. Buy another 4GB.
    >>>
    >>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Which will of course be of no use to him as he clearly stated that he was
    >> using the "32 BIT" version of Windows.
    >> Your poor advice and/or ignorance clearly knows no bounds.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You never know, the OP may upgrade to 64.
    >
    > Your insults are noted.
    >
    > Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    So the insults are noted. What are you going to do with them? Fold 'em and
    shove 'em up your ass?

    You think he cares?
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 15, 2009
    #24
  6. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    "Stan Starinski" <StopUnfairFreetrade@chinastealsUSAjobs.org> wrote in
    message news:uuGsGOXBKHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > You can get 4GB here for $30 generic (PNY), or $40 for elite (Corsair,
    > QCZ, Mushkin), or something in between (Kingston, Micron?).
    > If you look hard, e.g. at Newegg (I used to deal with Egghead before it
    > went out of business?), Amazon, ZipZoomFly)
    >
    > And yes even for a laptop, I got 4GB Corsairs (2+2GB) for $40 at
    > Amazon.com
    > Out of 4GB you get 3.25GB usable space, what is the waste?
    > A few cents? And would even $10 be painful to lose for RELIABILITY
    > because 4GB is more stable than 3GB due to assymetry (1+3 versus 2+2GB)?
    >
    > Not a waste of money.
    > A sandwich costs $6 in midtown Manhattan, so memory is like dirt - a few
    > sandwiches that serve you for several years and you can be satsified
    > having memory MAXED OUT for $40.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Don't you wish you could affrod a $6 sandwich in Manhattan? I'll bet you
    do. Don't you wish you made more than $8.25 an hour?
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 15, 2009
    #25
  7. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    "Paul Smith" <Paul@nospam.windowsresource.net> wrote in message
    news:%23qEl4$WBKHA.1376@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Stan Starinski" <StopUnfairFreetrade@chinastealsUSAjobs.org> wrote in
    > message news:OmQOrQWBKHA.3708@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Wrong answer.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Sorry Stan, how is what I said the wrong answer?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Ignore Stan. He is an IDIOT.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > You're not even thoughtful enough to quote in what you're reply to.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    He doesn't even have the brains to correct his computer clock. How can he
    deal with reality?
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Before you slap tha t"MVP" title to your name, get educated at a REAL
    >> college, not by reading Wikipedia.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    He isn't smart enough for college. His goal in life is working the fast
    food restaurants.
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 15, 2009
    #26
  8. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    "Stan Starinski" <StopUnfairFreetrade@chinastealsUSAjobs.org> wrote in
    message news:uh3bLHWBKHA.5780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > No you didn't waste money:
    >
    > As you know from Electrical Engineering basics, theoretical memory space
    > is defined by the address bus width. In a binary system it's simply 2^N
    > where N is the address width.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Where did you copy and paste the above information from? You certainly
    couldn't have come up with that yourself.

    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > In plain English:
    > If your Windows is 32-bit it can theoretically manage 2^32 = 4GB
    > If your hardware (e.g. Intel945 chipset?) is 32 bit but Windows is 64 bit,
    > or hardware is 64bit but Windows is 32 bit it's still 4GB as obviously the
    > lower address width limits the system, and disregards 64 bit elsewhere.
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Again, where did you copy the above information from?
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 15, 2009
    #27
  9. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have 4GB RAM
    >> installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM. Have I wasted
    >> money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me please?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS, you'll need
    > one of the server versions of MS that supports it or virtually any Linux.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't work so it
    doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your programs don't run then you
    are screwed. Using Linux means you are screwed.

    Run don't walk from Linux.
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 15, 2009
    #28
  10. ray

    ray Guest

    On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:28 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    > news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have 4GB RAM
    >>> installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM. Have I wasted
    >>> money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me please?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS, you'll need
    >> one of the server versions of MS that supports it or virtually any
    >> Linux.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't work so
    > it doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your programs don't run
    > then you are screwed. Using Linux means you are screwed.
    >
    > Run don't walk from Linux.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Excuse me, but why don't my programs run? I have Linux installed and
    haven't noticed any problems. Which of my programs are not supposed to
    run?
     
    ray, Jul 15, 2009
    #29
  11. ray

    ray Guest

    On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    > news:7c707nF25h7a5U24@mid.individual.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:28 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...
    >>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have 4GB
    >>>>> RAM installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM. Have I
    >>>>> wasted money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me please?
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS, you'll
    >>>> need one of the server versions of MS that supports it or virtually
    >>>> any Linux.
    >>>
    >>> One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't work
    >>> so it doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your programs don't
    >>> run then you are screwed. Using Linux means you are screwed.
    >>>
    >>> Run don't walk from Linux.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Excuse me, but why don't my programs run? I have Linux installed and
    >> haven't noticed any problems. Which of my programs are not supposed to
    >> run?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Your WINDOWS programs, slick. If you have Windows programs they won't
    > run on Linux.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    I don't HAVE ms programs. I don't NEED ms programs. Linux comes with
    virtually everything I could ever want preinstalled!
     
    ray, Jul 15, 2009
    #30
  12. ray

    ray Guest

    On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:49:08 -0700, Frank wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > ray wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:7c707nF25h7a5U24@mid.individual.net...
    >>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:28 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have 4GB
    >>>>>>> RAM installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM. Have I
    >>>>>>> wasted money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me please?
    >>>>>> Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS, you'll
    >>>>>> need one of the server versions of MS that supports it or virtually
    >>>>>> any Linux.
    >>>>> One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't
    >>>>> work so it doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your programs
    >>>>> don't run then you are screwed. Using Linux means you are screwed.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Run don't walk from Linux.
    >>>> Excuse me, but why don't my programs run? I have Linux installed and
    >>>> haven't noticed any problems. Which of my programs are not supposed
    >>>> to run?
    >>> Your WINDOWS programs, slick. If you have Windows programs they won't
    >>> run on Linux.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> I don't HAVE ms programs. I don't NEED ms programs. Linux comes with
    >> virtually everything I could ever want preinstalled!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > That says a lot to do about nothing!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Yeah, frankie, I'm wierd that way. I figure that when you spend <fill in
    amount> for a new computer or OS, you should NOT have to spend <fill in
    amount> to be productive - it should come with what you need.
     
    ray, Jul 16, 2009
    #31
  13. ray

    ray Guest

    On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:12:10 -0700, Frank wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > ray wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:49:08 -0700, Frank wrote:
    >> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> ray wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:7c707nF25h7a5U24@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:28 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have
    >>>>>>>>> 4GB RAM installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM.
    >>>>>>>>> Have I wasted money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me
    >>>>>>>>> please?
    >>>>>>>> Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS, you'll
    >>>>>>>> need one of the server versions of MS that supports it or
    >>>>>>>> virtually any Linux.
    >>>>>>> One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't
    >>>>>>> work so it doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your
    >>>>>>> programs don't run then you are screwed. Using Linux means you
    >>>>>>> are screwed.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Run don't walk from Linux.
    >>>>>> Excuse me, but why don't my programs run? I have Linux installed
    >>>>>> and haven't noticed any problems. Which of my programs are not
    >>>>>> supposed to run?
    >>>>> Your WINDOWS programs, slick. If you have Windows programs they
    >>>>> won't run on Linux.
    >>>> I don't HAVE ms programs. I don't NEED ms programs. Linux comes with
    >>>> virtually everything I could ever want preinstalled!
    >>> That says a lot to do about nothing!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Yeah, frankie, I'm wierd that way. I figure that when you spend <fill
    >> in amount> for a new computer or OS, you should NOT have to spend <fill
    >> in amount> to be productive - it should come with what you need.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Translation: ray has no real computer needs!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Yeah, you're right, frankie. I browse the internet, prepare reports for
    several organizations, keep track of a dozen or so banking accounts,
    manage a half dozen or so web sites, edit photos on a fairly regular
    basis, do a little software development, prepare a few presentations and
    work with a number of spreadsheets and databases - nothing very profound.
     
    ray, Jul 16, 2009
    #32
  14. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    Stan Starinski wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Yes I wish, but "God giveth & God taketh away".<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Looks like you need to be taketh away. Loser
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 16, 2009
    #33
  15. Bill Yanaire, ESQ

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ Guest

    ray wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:12:10 -0700, Frank wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> ray wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:49:08 -0700, Frank wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> ray wrote:
    >>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:7c707nF25h7a5U24@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:28 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have
    >>>>>>>>>> 4GB RAM installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM.
    >>>>>>>>>> Have I wasted money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me
    >>>>>>>>>> please?
    >>>>>>>>> Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS, you'll
    >>>>>>>>> need one of the server versions of MS that supports it or
    >>>>>>>>> virtually any Linux.
    >>>>>>>> One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't
    >>>>>>>> work so it doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your
    >>>>>>>> programs don't run then you are screwed. Using Linux means you
    >>>>>>>> are screwed.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Run don't walk from Linux.
    >>>>>>> Excuse me, but why don't my programs run? I have Linux installed
    >>>>>>> and haven't noticed any problems. Which of my programs are not
    >>>>>>> supposed to run?
    >>>>>> Your WINDOWS programs, slick. If you have Windows programs they
    >>>>>> won't run on Linux.
    >>>>> I don't HAVE ms programs. I don't NEED ms programs. Linux comes with
    >>>>> virtually everything I could ever want preinstalled!
    >>>> That says a lot to do about nothing!
    >>> Yeah, frankie, I'm wierd that way. I figure that when you spend <fill
    >>> in amount> for a new computer or OS, you should NOT have to spend <fill
    >>> in amount> to be productive - it should come with what you need.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> Translation: ray has no real computer needs!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Yeah, you're right, frankie. I browse the internet, prepare reports for
    > several organizations, keep track of a dozen or so banking accounts,
    > manage a half dozen or so web sites, edit photos on a fairly regular
    > basis, do a little software development, prepare a few presentations and
    > work with a number of spreadsheets and databases - nothing very profound.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    So do you do all that in your basement? Most companies use Microsoft
    products to be productive.
     
    Bill Yanaire, ESQ, Jul 16, 2009
    #34
  16. Alias

    Alias Guest

    Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > ray wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:12:10 -0700, Frank wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> ray wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:49:08 -0700, Frank wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> ray wrote:
    >>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:7c707nF25h7a5U24@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:28 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>> news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have
    >>>>>>>>>>> 4GB RAM installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Have I wasted money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me
    >>>>>>>>>>> please?
    >>>>>>>>>> Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS, you'll
    >>>>>>>>>> need one of the server versions of MS that supports it or
    >>>>>>>>>> virtually any Linux.
    >>>>>>>>> One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't
    >>>>>>>>> work so it doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your
    >>>>>>>>> programs don't run then you are screwed. Using Linux means you
    >>>>>>>>> are screwed.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Run don't walk from Linux.
    >>>>>>>> Excuse me, but why don't my programs run? I have Linux installed
    >>>>>>>> and haven't noticed any problems. Which of my programs are not
    >>>>>>>> supposed to run?
    >>>>>>> Your WINDOWS programs, slick. If you have Windows programs they
    >>>>>>> won't run on Linux.
    >>>>>> I don't HAVE ms programs. I don't NEED ms programs. Linux comes with
    >>>>>> virtually everything I could ever want preinstalled!
    >>>>> That says a lot to do about nothing!
    >>>> Yeah, frankie, I'm wierd that way. I figure that when you spend <fill
    >>>> in amount> for a new computer or OS, you should NOT have to spend <fill
    >>>> in amount> to be productive - it should come with what you need.
    >>> Translation: ray has no real computer needs!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Yeah, you're right, frankie. I browse the internet, prepare reports
    >> for several organizations, keep track of a dozen or so banking
    >> accounts, manage a half dozen or so web sites, edit photos on a fairly
    >> regular basis, do a little software development, prepare a few
    >> presentations and work with a number of spreadsheets and databases -
    >> nothing very profound.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > So do you do all that in your basement? Most companies use Microsoft
    > products to be productive.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    What can be done with Linux? Glad you asked:

    Email
    Surf the web
    Burn CDs.
    Rip CDs.
    Listen to music.
    Watch vidoes/DVDs.
    Scan and print.
    Spreadsheets.
    Presentations
    Newsgroups.
    HTML editing.
    Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
    Make videos.
    Download photos from a camera and organize them.
    Translations.
    Use a dictionary
    Learn how to touch type.
    Edit images.
    Send and receive a fax.
    Take screenshots.
    Create .PDF files.
    Create and use a data base.
    Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
    Windows Live Messenger.
    IRC.
    Bluetooth.

    and much more!

    What you can't do with Ubuntu:

    Worry about:
    WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
    DRM,
    Viruses,
    Root kits,
    Spyware,
    and
    Malware.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jul 16, 2009
    #35
  17. ray

    ray Guest

    On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:17:53 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > ray wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:12:10 -0700, Frank wrote:
    >> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> ray wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:49:08 -0700, Frank wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> ray wrote:
    >>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:7c707nF25h7a5U24@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:28 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>> news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have
    >>>>>>>>>>> 4GB RAM installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM.
    >>>>>>>>>>> Have I wasted money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me
    >>>>>>>>>>> please?
    >>>>>>>>>> Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS,
    >>>>>>>>>> you'll need one of the server versions of MS that supports it
    >>>>>>>>>> or virtually any Linux.
    >>>>>>>>> One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't
    >>>>>>>>> work so it doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your
    >>>>>>>>> programs don't run then you are screwed. Using Linux means you
    >>>>>>>>> are screwed.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Run don't walk from Linux.
    >>>>>>>> Excuse me, but why don't my programs run? I have Linux installed
    >>>>>>>> and haven't noticed any problems. Which of my programs are not
    >>>>>>>> supposed to run?
    >>>>>>> Your WINDOWS programs, slick. If you have Windows programs they
    >>>>>>> won't run on Linux.
    >>>>>> I don't HAVE ms programs. I don't NEED ms programs. Linux comes
    >>>>>> with virtually everything I could ever want preinstalled!
    >>>>> That says a lot to do about nothing!
    >>>> Yeah, frankie, I'm wierd that way. I figure that when you spend <fill
    >>>> in amount> for a new computer or OS, you should NOT have to spend
    >>>> <fill in amount> to be productive - it should come with what you
    >>>> need.
    >>> Translation: ray has no real computer needs!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> Yeah, you're right, frankie. I browse the internet, prepare reports for
    >> several organizations, keep track of a dozen or so banking accounts,
    >> manage a half dozen or so web sites, edit photos on a fairly regular
    >> basis, do a little software development, prepare a few presentations
    >> and work with a number of spreadsheets and databases - nothing very
    >> profound.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > So do you do all that in your basement? Most companies use Microsoft
    > products to be productive.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Actually, I "do all that" anywhere I want. But if "most companies use
    Microsoft", I guess I'll have to switch - I certainly want to be like
    "most companies" - which, currently, seems to be in financial difficulty.
    Hmmmmmm - I wonder if there's a connection?
     
    ray, Jul 16, 2009
    #36
  18. Stan Starinski

    Stan Starinski Guest

    Thee taketh your dish away, been burning stomach since Last Supper.
     
    Stan Starinski, Jul 17, 2009
    #37
  19. Alias

    Alias Guest

    Frank wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Alias wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> ray wrote:
    >>>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:12:10 -0700, Frank wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> ray wrote:
    >>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:49:08 -0700, Frank wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> ray wrote:
    >>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:44:39 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>> news:7c707nF25h7a5U24@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:59:28 -0700, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>>>>> news:7c6gnjF25h7a5U21@mid.individual.net...
    >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:12:01 -0700, colin.t wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am running Viata Home Premium 32 BIT service pack 2. I have
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4GB RAM installed but I am told Vista can only manage 3GB RAM.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Have I wasted money on the extra 1GB RAM. Can anyone advise me
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> please?
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. If you want to access the extra ram with a 32 bit OS,
    >>>>>>>>>>>> you'll
    >>>>>>>>>>>> need one of the server versions of MS that supports it or
    >>>>>>>>>>>> virtually any Linux.
    >>>>>>>>>>> One thing you forgot. If you use Linux then your programs won't
    >>>>>>>>>>> work so it doesn't matter if you have 1 TB of RAM. If your
    >>>>>>>>>>> programs don't run then you are screwed. Using Linux means you
    >>>>>>>>>>> are screwed.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Run don't walk from Linux.
    >>>>>>>>>> Excuse me, but why don't my programs run? I have Linux installed
    >>>>>>>>>> and haven't noticed any problems. Which of my programs are not
    >>>>>>>>>> supposed to run?
    >>>>>>>>> Your WINDOWS programs, slick. If you have Windows programs they
    >>>>>>>>> won't run on Linux.
    >>>>>>>> I don't HAVE ms programs. I don't NEED ms programs. Linux comes
    >>>>>>>> with
    >>>>>>>> virtually everything I could ever want preinstalled!
    >>>>>>> That says a lot to do about nothing!
    >>>>>> Yeah, frankie, I'm wierd that way. I figure that when you spend <fill
    >>>>>> in amount> for a new computer or OS, you should NOT have to spend
    >>>>>> <fill
    >>>>>> in amount> to be productive - it should come with what you need.
    >>>>> Translation: ray has no real computer needs!
    >>>>
    >>>> Yeah, you're right, frankie. I browse the internet, prepare reports
    >>>> for several organizations, keep track of a dozen or so banking
    >>>> accounts, manage a half dozen or so web sites, edit photos on a
    >>>> fairly regular basis, do a little software development, prepare a
    >>>> few presentations and work with a number of spreadsheets and
    >>>> databases - nothing very profound.
    >>>
    >>> So do you do all that in your basement? Most companies use Microsoft
    >>> products to be productive.
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> What can be done with Linux? Glad you asked:
    >>
    >> Email
    >> Surf the web
    >> Burn CDs.
    >> Rip CDs.
    >> Listen to music.
    >> Watch vidoes/DVDs.
    >> Scan and print.
    >> Spreadsheets.
    >> Presentations
    >> Newsgroups.
    >> HTML editing.
    >> Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
    >> Make videos.
    >> Download photos from a camera and organize them.
    >> Translations.
    >> Use a dictionary
    >> Learn how to touch type.
    >> Edit images.
    >> Send and receive a fax.
    >> Take screenshots.
    >> Create .PDF files.
    >> Create and use a data base.
    >> Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
    >> Windows Live Messenger.
    >> IRC.
    >> Bluetooth.
    >>
    >> and much more!
    >>
    >> What you can't do with Ubuntu:
    >>
    >> Worry about:
    >> WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
    >> DRM,
    >> Viruses,
    >> Root kits,
    >> Spyware,
    >> and
    >> Malware.
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > I see that you're spamming and lying again...as usual.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Keep telling yourself that, Frank.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jul 17, 2009
    #38
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