At last - it's official ...

" Vista was 'less good'
A Microsoft exec has noted that having 'bad products' can hurt your market
share.
By Stuart Turton, 17 Sep 2009 at 09:47

A Microsoft exec has admitted that "Vista was a less good product", as the
launch of Windows 7 looms.
The oddly phrased comment came during an investor webcast, when Charles
Songhurst, Microsoft's general manager of corporate strategy, was asked how
Vista had affected the company's fortunes.

"What people underestimate is the importance of good or bad products," said
Songhurst. "And sometimes your products are good, sometimes the products are
bad. And I think Vista was a less good product for Microsoft." "

 

does he speak English?
"less good" - is this a legal English expression?
Why can't he say "worst", or "doomed'?

 

"Andy Huang" <anson198002@163.com> wrote in message
news:u95h9ZKOKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> does he speak English?
> "less good" - is this a legal English expression?
> Why can't he say "worst", or "doomed'?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
other language he knows. English influenced many
languages as much as they effected English...-))

 

"Jdr" <jd.ross@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:eC81McLOKHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Andy Huang" <anson198002@163.com> wrote in message
> news:u95h9ZKOKHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> does he speak English?
>> "less good" - is this a legal English expression?
>> Why can't he say "worst", or "doomed'?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
> other language he knows. English influenced many
> languages as much as they effected English...-))
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

he speak Engris

 

> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> other language he knows. English influenced many
> languages as much as they effected English...-))<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it.
Of course you were making a joke, right? Right???

Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good:
A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
Never verbify a noun.
Don't split an infinitive up.
Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable.
Likewise you're and your.
Always spell it like it sounds, Example:
"I could of gone." Never mind that it should be
could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of"
so spell it that way.
Right or not, always use "I" as in:
"Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie."
Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple
to remember and always use "I".

 

"Tom Lake" <toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CAF8BD7F-EE5F-4A13-9DB4-868AB3AFAD3F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
>> other language he knows. English influenced many
>> languages as much as they effected English...-))<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
> Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it.
> Of course you were making a joke, right? Right???
>
> Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good:
> A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
> Never verbify a noun.
> Don't split an infinitive up.
> Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable.
> Likewise you're and your.
> Always spell it like it sounds, Example:
> "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be
> could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of"
> so spell it that way.
> Right or not, always use "I" as in:
> "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie."
> Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple
> to remember and always use "I".
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Not forgetting "I got it for free"!

 

"Tom Lake" <toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CAF8BD7F-EE5F-4A13-9DB4-868AB3AFAD3F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
>> other language he knows. English influenced many
>> languages as much as they effected English...-))<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
> Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it.
> Of course you were making a joke, right? Right???
>
> Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good:
> A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
> Never verbify a noun.
> Don't split an infinitive up.
> Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable.
> Likewise you're and your.
> Always spell it like it sounds, Example:
> "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be
> could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of"
> so spell it that way.
> Right or not, always use "I" as in:
> "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie."
> Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple
> to remember and always use "I".
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
These are rule even corporate business takes to heart. Just read the
company emails I get!

Also, to and too are interchangeable. There is so much more . . .

But, seriously, "Could of" is really "could have" which is what "could've"
could be the contraction for.

John

 

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:46:00 -0400, "Tom Lake"
<toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
> > other language he knows. English influenced many
> > languages as much as they effected English...-))<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Not entirely, but almost always. The noun "affect" is rare and mostly
obsolete, but *does* exist.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Effect is a noun.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Not entirely, but usually. The verb "effect," which means "to bring
about," is not particularly common, but is much more common than the
noun "affect."

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

Affected, not effected.
Learn English, as well as we in Hing Kong.

Andy Huang
Wantong Electronics Limited

 

You said:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> These are ruke....<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You should say "these are ruleS"

Because rules is plural. Please correct your post and resobmit.

 

The noun "affect" is obsolete?

First off, it's a verb. Second, you're an idiot.
Third i am astounded I have to tell this to an American or whoever you are,
you were born with English, right?
I was born & raised in Russia upto 20 years old, why do I have to explain
this to YOU?

AFFECT is used all the time, profusely and correctly in academic literature.
If it's obsolete, then it must be obsolete amongst gangs and other street
junk, homeless people.

 

"Andy Huang" <anson198002@163.com> wrote in message
news:uPxUnjVOKHA.5128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> The noun "affect" is obsolete?
><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> First off, it's a verb. Second, you're an idiot.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Depending on how it is used the word affect can be either a noun or a verb:


<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Third i am astounded I have to tell this to an American or whoever you
> are, you were born with English, right?
> I was born & raised in Russia upto 20 years old, why do I have to explain
> this to YOU?
>
> AFFECT is used all the time, profusely and correctly in academic
> literature.
> If it's obsolete, then it must be obsolete amongst gangs and other street
> junk, homeless people. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uEnRyHSOKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:CAF8BD7F-EE5F-4A13-9DB4-868AB3AFAD3F@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
>>>> other language he knows. English influenced many
>>>> languages as much as they effected English...-))
>>> Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
>>> Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it.
>>> Of course you were making a joke, right? Right???
>>>
>>> Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good:
>>> A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
>>> Never verbify a noun.
>>> Don't split an infinitive up.
>>> Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable.
>>> Likewise you're and your.
>>> Always spell it like it sounds, Example:
>>> "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be
>>> could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of"
>>> so spell it that way.
>>> Right or not, always use "I" as in:
>>> "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie."
>>> Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple
>>> to remember and always use "I".
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> Not forgetting "I got it for free"!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Err - The only thing you got Err for free is Herpes. Err.
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

What, and you paid to get herpes? Is it a genuine herpes or a pirated
version?

Alias

 

Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Alias" <iamaliasTAKETHIS@OUTgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h988ug$j5d$1@news.eternal-september.org...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Gordon's Psychotherapist wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uEnRyHSOKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Tom Lake" <toml_12953@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:CAF8BD7F-EE5F-4A13-9DB4-868AB3AFAD3F@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Language is full of surprises. It may be a "cliché" from
>>>>>> other language he knows. English influenced many
>>>>>> languages as much as they effected English...-))
>>>>> Affected, not effected!!!! Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.
>>>>> Once something is affected, you can see the effect on it.
>>>>> Of course you were making a joke, right? Right???
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom Lake's Rules to Speak English More Good:
>>>>> A preposition is a bad thing to end a sentence with.
>>>>> Never verbify a noun.
>>>>> Don't split an infinitive up.
>>>>> Their, there, and they're are all interchangeable.
>>>>> Likewise you're and your.
>>>>> Always spell it like it sounds, Example:
>>>>> "I could of gone." Never mind that it should be
>>>>> could've. When spoken it sounds like "could of"
>>>>> so spell it that way.
>>>>> Right or not, always use "I" as in:
>>>>> "Mom gave Sue and I tickets to the movie."
>>>>> Even though "me" is correct, keep the rule simple
>>>>> to remember and always use "I".
>>>>>
>>>> Not forgetting "I got it for free"!
>>> Err - The only thing you got Err for free is Herpes. Err.
>>>
>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> What, and you paid to get herpes? Is it a genuine herpes or a pirated
>> version?
>>
>> Alias<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> There goes your reading comprehension again. I wasn't talking about me you
> IDIOT. Typical response from someone who loves Ubuntu. You have no clue as
> usual.
>
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

So, it was pirated, eh, and you don't want anyone to know, especially
your wife.

Alias

 

On 9/19/09, the entity John E. Carty wrote this:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> "Andy Huang" <anson198002@163.com> wrote in message
> news:uPxUnjVOKHA.5128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> The noun "affect" is obsolete?
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> First off, it's a verb. Second, you're an idiot.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Depending on how it is used the word affect can be either a noun or a verb:
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Truee of effect also:

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Third i am astounded I have to tell this to an American or whoever you are,
>> you were born with English, right?
>> I was born & raised in Russia upto 20 years old, why do I have to explain
>> this to YOU?
>>
>> AFFECT is used all the time, profusely and correctly in academic
>> literature.
>> If it's obsolete, then it must be obsolete amongst gangs and other street
>> junk, homeless people.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

--
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