windows vista antivirus programs !!

On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:39:30 -0700, Aardvark wrote:
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> I installed Windows Onecare and it works for me. I ran it against Gibson
> research
>
>
>
> and it passed with flying colors.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

<snip>

Firewall LeakTesting.
Excerpts:
Leo Laporte: "So the leaktest is kind of pointless."
Steve Gibson: "Well,yes,...
Leo: "So are you saying that there's no point in doing a leaktest

anymore?"
Steve: "Well, it's why I have not taken the trouble to update mine,
because you..."
Leo: "You can't test enough".
Steve: "Well, yeah.
Leo: "Right. Very interesting stuff. I guess that - my sense is, if you
can't test for leaks, a software-based firewall is kind of essentially
worthless."

Read and/or listen to the entire conversation here:

 

I would stand neurtral on such

Choose from these names:
Onecare / BitDefender / Kaspersky / TrendMicro

The following are the only names I would trust

"cameccas" <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AD94F1DE-94BE-41F6-A993-F7866AF0B620@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or
> NORTON
> my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it
> has
> to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff??
> I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer
> run
> very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run
> better
> and safe ?? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> AV-Comparatives and Virus Bulletin have not tested OneCare
> v.2.5 When they do, you'll be quite surprised how OneCare has
> progressed from v.2.0<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I will watch the sites and ask again later then.

Charlie42

 

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:15:01 +0700, Kayman
<kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:21:12 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>
><snip>
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and
>> McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely
>> affecting your computer's performance.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>In all fairness, it's their *retail* version which can play havoc with
>pc's. AFAIK the *corporate* isues are pretty good <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I might take exception to that. I used to consult at a major computer
manufacturer ($20b+ in sales). The corporate standard was to use
Norton. I often brought in hardware when I was there. One day I
noticed a serious speed difference in network copying between the
Norton encrusted systems and my own. So, we did some testing. We used
very strict and repetitive test conditions on their Norton bound
systems. The end result was that having Norton turned on during
network copies slowed the copies by a factor of about 22 times.

We started researching in Norton's support database and there was a
bulletin on the problem as a "known issue" with network copying. It
had been a known issue since Windows 95. Apparently they didn't seem
to think it would matter to customers.

I have to be fair to Nor ton that I have not done these tests again in
the last couple years - but I started advising everyone to take it off
their systems back then and I don't feel guilty still advising that.

 

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:04:03 +0800, "Milo" <jfcoel@hotmail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I would stand neurtral on such
>
>Choose from these names:
>Onecare / BitDefender / Kaspersky / TrendMicro
>
>The following are the only names I would trust<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You left out any you trust. I think you meant to write "AVG".

 

Kayman wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:00 -0700, cameccas wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON
>> my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has
>> to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff??
>> I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run
>> very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better
>> and safe ??<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> A number of experts agree that the retail AV version of McAfee, Norton and
> Trend Micro has become cumbersome and bloated for the average user.
>
> The major criticisms are related to stability and footprint, the most
> common problem being slow-downs because of the massive system resources
> hogs. There are products on the market with equal or better test results
> than Symantec's products, consuming less resources at a lower price (even
> free ones).
>
> The retail version of these apps can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it
> using propriety uninstall tools:
>
> Download and run the Norton Removal Tool and try to get a refund:
>
> The Norton Removal Tool uninstalls all Norton 2008/2007/2006/2005/2004/2003
> products and Norton 360 from your computer.
>
> Removal tools for recent Mcafee products:-
> Request assistance from here:
>
> or download and run:
>
> or
>
> or
> Download and run the McAfee Removal tool:
>
> If you receive a security alert, click Yes.
> Click Save to download the file to a location on your computer.
> Navigate to the location where the file was saved.
> Ensure all McAfee application windows are closed.
> Double-click MCPR2.exe to run the removal tool.
> Note: Windows Vista users must right-click and select Run as Administrator.
> Restart your computer when prompted. Your McAfee products will not be fully
> removed until you restart.
> All McAfee products are now removed from your computer.'
> or
> Remove all remnants of McAfee...
>
>
> How to uninstall or reinstall supported McAfee consumer products using the
> McAfee Consumer Products Removal tool (MCPR.exe)
>
>
> IMPORTANT: If your McAfee products were preinstalled by the manufacturer of
> your computer, please make sure to activate your McAfee subscription before
> uninstalling. Reinstalling from a CD or download will only install your
> McAfee consumer applications, but may not recover your paid subscription
> term information.
>
> There are many good free AV applications available, and almost everyone has
> his favorite. Most of the users are emotionally attached to their av
> application and will have excellent reasons for not recommending any other
> brand.
> The most important thing here is that all of the available choices listed
> here are better in some respects than in others, and which choice is better
> for *you* depends on what you do, how you work, and which features you use.
> The way you use your PC is different from others.
> Have a look at this:
>
> and be guided accordingly.
> Good info can be obtained here:
>
> and here:
>
>
> If the above is too deluging consider this:-
> Real-time AV applications - for viral malware.
> Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
> Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
> Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection.
>
> Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
>
> Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption.
>
>
> Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
>
> You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
>
> or
> Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
> It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs
> Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class
> GMER technology.
>
> (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
> Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)
> or
> AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
>
> (Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.)
> or
> ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free
>
> or
> Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free
>
>
> and (optional but highly recommendable)
>
> On-demand AV applications.
> (add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner).
> David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool
>
>
> English:
> [url=http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/01/09/scan-your-computer-with-multiple-anti-virus-for-free/" target="_blank http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/0...virus-for-free/[url]
> Additional Instructions:
> [url=http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm" target="_blank http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm[url]
> and/or
> [url=http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/" target="_blank http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/[url]
> There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated
> several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever
> you want to do a scan.
>
> Dr.Web CureIt!® Utility - FREE
> [url=http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/" target="_blank http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/[url]
>
> Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware
> [url=http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe" target="_blank http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe[url]
> Note: It is Free for private use. Just download (do NOT buy) and install.
>
> A-S applications - for non-viral malware.
> The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
> oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
> cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
> products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
> another may miss, (grab'em all).
>
> SuperAntispyware - Free
> [url=http://www.superantispyware.com/superantispywarefreevspro.html" target="_blank http://www.superantispyware.com/superantis...efreevspro.html[url]
> and
> Ad-Aware 2007 - Free
> [url=http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php" target="_blank http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php[url]
> [url=http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html" target="_blank http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html[url]
> and
> Spybot Search & Destroy - Free
> [url=http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html" target="_blank http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html[url]
> and
> Windows Defender - Free (build-in in Vista)
> [url=http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx" target="_blank http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspx[url]
> WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware
> and worms to install to the OS.
> Interesting reading:
> [url=http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html" target="_blank http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html[url]
> "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
> changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
> the actual threat."
>
> A clarification on the terminology: the word "malware" is short for
> "malicious software." Most Anti-Virus applications detect many types of
> malware such as viruses, worms, trojans, etc.
> What AV applications usually don't detect is "non-viral" malware, and the
> term "non-viral malware" is normally used to refer to things like spyware
> and adware.
>
> Many experts suggest that Windows Live One Care is on the bottom of the
> list as far as finding virusmalwaretrojan.
>
> You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in
> itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.
>
> Managing the Windows Vista Firewall
> [url=http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc510323.aspx" target="_blank http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc510323.aspx[url]
>
> Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available).
> Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing
> activity, controls applications internet access.
> [url=http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/" target="_blank http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/[url]
> The free version may be all you need, check the comparisons under
> the "Download and Buy" link.
>
> Good luck [IMG]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/IMG]<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
Hi,

Taking the advice of several posters, I downloaded Avast, and then
deleted Norton 360 with the Norton Removal Tool. My computer now runs
much faster than before, a major improvement. Free is also nice.

Thanks for the good advice.

Morton Linder[/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url][/url]

 

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:50:07 -0400, +Bob+ wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:15:01 +0700, Kayman
> <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:21:12 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>
>><snip>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and
>>> McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely
>>> affecting your computer's performance.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>In all fairness, it's their *retail* version which can play havoc with
>>pc's. AFAIK the *corporate* isues are pretty good <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I might take exception to that. I used to consult at a major computer
> manufacturer ($20b+ in sales). The corporate standard was to use
> Norton. I often brought in hardware when I was there. One day I
> noticed a serious speed difference in network copying between the
> Norton encrusted systems and my own. So, we did some testing. We used
> very strict and repetitive test conditions on their Norton bound
> systems. The end result was that having Norton turned on during
> network copies slowed the copies by a factor of about 22 times.
>
> We started researching in Norton's support database and there was a
> bulletin on the problem as a "known issue" with network copying. It
> had been a known issue since Windows 95. Apparently they didn't seem
> to think it would matter to customers.
>
> I have to be fair to Nor ton that I have not done these tests again in
> the last couple years - but I started advising everyone to take it off
> their systems back then and I don't feel guilty still advising that.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

you seem to be pretty up-to-date, got any more tales to tell? Zzzzzzzzzz

 

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:15:01 +0700, Kayman
<kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:21:12 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>
> <snip>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and
> > McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely
> > affecting your computer's performance.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> In all fairness, it's their *retail* version which can play havoc with
> pc's. AFAIK the *corporate* isues are pretty good <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


Yes, I understand the same thing. I have no personal experience with
the corporate version of Norton, but I've heard good things about it
too.

I was referring only to the retail version, which is what almost
everyone here means when they talk about their anti-virus software.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:54:48 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:15:01 +0700, Kayman
> <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:21:12 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and
>>> McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely
>>> affecting your computer's performance.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> In all fairness, it's their *retail* version which can play havoc with
>> pc's. AFAIK the *corporate* isues are pretty good <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> Yes, I understand the same thing. I have no personal experience with
> the corporate version of Norton, but I've heard good things about it
> too.
>
> I was referring only to the retail version, which is what almost
> everyone here means when they talk about their anti-virus software.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Yes, you're right. My reponse was probably too trivial; Sorry about that.

 

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:01:13 +0700, Kayman
<kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>
>> We started researching in Norton's support database and there was a
>> bulletin on the problem as a "known issue" with network copying. It
>> had been a known issue since Windows 95. Apparently they didn't seem
>> to think it would matter to customers.
>>
>> I have to be fair to Nor ton that I have not done these tests again in
>> the last couple years - but I started advising everyone to take it off
>> their systems back then and I don't feel guilty still advising that.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>you seem to be pretty up-to-date, got any more tales to tell? Zzzzzzzzzz<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Perhaps you can't read between the lines. Let me help you out: The
point is that any company that would have this kind of major flaw in
their software for years and leave it unfixed has no concern for the
customers, even their (most important) corporate customers. Their only
concern was to document it as "known issue".

If you want to business with a company with those policies, go for it.
You can let us know which flaws you find in the latest version. I'll
go with a product without known serious flaws.

 

+Bob+ wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:15:01 +0700, Kayman
> <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:21:12 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and
>>> McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely
>>> affecting your computer's performance.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> In all fairness, it's their *retail* version which can play havoc with
>> pc's. AFAIK the *corporate* isues are pretty good <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I might take exception to that. I used to consult at a major computer
> manufacturer ($20b+ in sales). The corporate standard was to use
> Norton. I often brought in hardware when I was there. One day I
> noticed a serious speed difference in network copying between the
> Norton encrusted systems and my own. So, we did some testing. We used
> very strict and repetitive test conditions on their Norton bound
> systems. The end result was that having Norton turned on during
> network copies slowed the copies by a factor of about 22 times.
>
> We started researching in Norton's support database and there was a
> bulletin on the problem as a "known issue" with network copying. It
> had been a known issue since Windows 95. Apparently they didn't seem
> to think it would matter to customers.
>
> I have to be fair to Nor ton that I have not done these tests again in
> the last couple years - but I started advising everyone to take it off
> their systems back then and I don't feel guilty still advising that.
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I have to concur. At the Hospice I support, I "upgraded" to Symantec CE.
The first thing that struck you was that a client scan basically took
over the machine. The employee basically had a useless machine until it
finished.

The console was horrible and difficult to use with very limited options.
I also found that just about any update virtually required a reinstall
and pushing out new client code. Not a pretty sight.... :-(

We ended up switching to Sophos End Point Security and never looked
back. If anyone wants, I can discuss it, but since the OP seemed
interested in personal AV software, not Corporate...

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

 

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:39:16 -0400, +Bob+ wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:01:13 +0700, Kayman
> <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>
>>> We started researching in Norton's support database and there was a
>>> bulletin on the problem as a "known issue" with network copying. It
>>> had been a known issue since Windows 95. Apparently they didn't seem
>>> to think it would matter to customers.
>>>
>>> I have to be fair to Nor ton that I have not done these tests again in
>>> the last couple years - but I started advising everyone to take it off
>>> their systems back then and I don't feel guilty still advising that.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>>you seem to be pretty up-to-date, got any more tales to tell? Zzzzzzzzzz<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Perhaps you can't read between the lines.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Well, I was never trained reading between the lines...
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Let me help you out:<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

....and at my age I am not really interested.

<snip for brevity>

Read my original response to the original poster, this may (or may not)
give you some idea where I coming from.

 

I agree with Ken Blake on this one. Personally I just switched over to Avast
and it is an incredibly accurate product. Free to boot!! And does not slow
down my computer one bit, even when scanning the HDD and I have it on
'thorough scan'.

I also use Ad-Aware (free version) and love it. I've not had any problems
with spyware, malware, viruses or adware since using these products.

Much luck to you!

Brittany D


"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
newsuep841ckjff329uvv5rldp5a546ju5c8f@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:00 -0700, cameccas
> <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or
>> NORTON
>> my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it
>> has
>> to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff??
>> I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer
>> run
>> very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run
>> better
>> and safe ??<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
>
> Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and
> McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely
> affecting your computer's performance.
>
> For an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32 if you want to spend a
> little money, or Avast, if you want a free product.
>
> For anti-spyware, I would run at least two from the following list:
>
> Spyware Blaster
> Spybot Search and Destroy
> Adaware
> Super Antispyware.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:06:08 -0400, "Brittany D"
<xihatevistax@hotmail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>I also use Ad-Aware (free version) and love it. I've not had any problems
>with spyware, malware, viruses or adware since using these products.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Don't depend on only one. I really don't like Ad-Aware myself. It
seems to be overly sensitive about "tracking cookies".

 

On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:06:08 -0400, "Brittany D"
<xihatevistax@hotmail.com> wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I agree with Ken Blake on this one. Personally I just switched over to Avast
> and it is an incredibly accurate product. Free to boot!! And does not slow
> down my computer one bit, even when scanning the HDD and I have it on
> 'thorough scan'.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


By the way, one of my favorite features of Avast is that you can set
it to scan automatically whenever your screen saver comes on, so you
never have to actually initiate a scan yourself. I mention this only
in case you're not aware of it.

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I also use Ad-Aware (free version) and love it. I've not had any problems
> with spyware, malware, viruses or adware since using these products.
>
> Much luck to you!
>
> Brittany D
>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> newsuep841ckjff329uvv5rldp5a546ju5c8f@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:00 -0700, cameccas
> > <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> >> Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or
> >> NORTON
> >> my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it
> >> has
> >> to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff??
> >> I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer
> >> run
> >> very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run
> >> better
> >> and safe ??<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> >
> >
> > Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and
> > McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely
> > affecting your computer's performance.
> >
> > For an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32 if you want to spend a
> > little money, or Avast, if you want a free product.
> >
> > For anti-spyware, I would run at least two from the following list:
> >
> > Spyware Blaster
> > Spybot Search and Destroy
> > Adaware
> > Super Antispyware.
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:00:26 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
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>On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 00:06:08 -0400, "Brittany D"
><xihatevistax@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> I agree with Ken Blake on this one. Personally I just switched over to Avast
>> and it is an incredibly accurate product. Free to boot!! And does not slow
>> down my computer one bit, even when scanning the HDD and I have it on
>> 'thorough scan'.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
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>
>By the way, one of my favorite features of Avast is that you can set
>it to scan automatically whenever your screen saver comes on, so you
>never have to actually initiate a scan yourself. I mention this only
>in case you're not aware of it.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Is periodic scanning really necessary given Avast's real-time
protection?

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>> I also use Ad-Aware (free version) and love it. I've not had any problems
>> with spyware, malware, viruses or adware since using these products.
>>
>> Much luck to you!
>>
>> Brittany D
>>
>>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> newsuep841ckjff329uvv5rldp5a546ju5c8f@4ax.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>> > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:00 -0700, cameccas
>> > <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or
>> >> NORTON
>> >> my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it
>> >> has
>> >> to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff??
>> >> I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer
>> >> run
>> >> very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run
>> >> better
>> >> and safe ??
>> >
>> >
>> > Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and
>> > McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely
>> > affecting your computer's performance.
>> >
>> > For an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32 if you want to spend a
>> > little money, or Avast, if you want a free product.
>> >
>> > For anti-spyware, I would run at least two from the following list:
>> >
>> > Spyware Blaster
>> > Spybot Search and Destroy
>> > Adaware
>> > Super Antispyware.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Hmm, try NOD 32 antivirus with Spybot installed, I don't think, you will
get "infected" with some kind of virus, spyware and so on... thats my
combination and my system is clear, fresh and fast...

PS:

Every day are ppl coming to our company to reinstall their OS to Win XP
or Vista, and every time they told me and pleased me to DON'T install
McAfee and other bullsh*t (sorry for that word) to their laptops or
desktop PCs, I tried this stuff one TIME, and it was at last I ever did
that, this kind of software really smash your system...

)

// kemo


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"kemo" <guest@unknown-email.com> schreef in bericht
news:9711c389ec5c588265b18923957f07cc@nntp-gateway.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Hmm, try NOD 32 antivirus with Spybot installed, I don't think, you will
> get "infected" with some kind of virus, spyware and so on... thats my
> combination and my system is clear, fresh and fast...
>
> PS:
>
> Every day are ppl coming to our company to reinstall their OS to Win XP
> or Vista, and every time they told me and pleased me to DON'T install
> McAfee and other bullsh*t (sorry for that word) to their laptops or
> desktop PCs, I tried this stuff one TIME, and it was at last I ever did
> that, this kind of software really smash your system...
>
> )
>
> // kemo
>
>
> --
> kemo<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Do it more simple and cheaper: Avira Security Suite asks half of the price
others ask and scores always very good in test bulletins: it always belongs
to the first three, and is simple to install.

 

"cameccas" wrote:
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> Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON
> my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has
> to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff??
> I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run
> very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better
> and safe ?? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
DON"T BUY WINDOWS LIVE ONECARE. I Tried it and it ground my computer to a
halt. That thing is a resource pig and made my performance worse and it got
so bad that I immediately uninstalled it!

 

"swalkerco@hotmail.com" <swalkercohotmailcom@discussions.microsoft.com>
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>
>
> "cameccas" wrote:
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>> Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or
>> NORTON
>> my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it
>> has
>> to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff??
>> I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer
>> run
>> very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run
>> better
>> and safe ??<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> DON"T BUY WINDOWS LIVE ONECARE. I Tried it and it ground my computer to
> a
> halt. That thing is a resource pig and made my performance worse and it
> got
> so bad that I immediately uninstalled it!<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


I didn't get the slow-down, but I did get a stupid thing that immediately it
ran the "tune-up" function, it told me there were critical updates missing,
when in fact there weren't. What it REALLY meant was, not that there were
critical updates missing but that there were SOME updates missing. (I had
hidden hardware driver updates as I get these from the vendor...) so I
binned it....stupid program....