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Discussion in 'Windows Security' started by Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009.

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  1. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are released.
    I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that there are new
    defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the definitions are there.
    what gives?
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009
    #1
  3. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Guest

    [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]

    Are any other updates being installed? cf.


    Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    illustration here:


    Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can you
    successfully install them manually?

    Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002



    Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    > Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    > released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that there
    > are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the definitions
    > are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Aug 14, 2009
    #2
  4. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    Are any other updates being installed?

    yes I had no problem with that

    Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See

    it is set to automatic.

    and how do I get to the update log?:S
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    >
    > Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    >
    >
    > Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    > illustration here:
    >
    >
    > Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can you
    > successfully install them manually?
    >
    > Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    > --
    > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >
    >
    >
    > Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    > > Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    > > released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that there
    > > are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the definitions
    > > are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009
    #3
  5. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Guest

    Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:

    How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file


    Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now button
    within the application?

    Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    selecting Run as Administrator? =>



    Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Are any other updates being installed?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > yes I had no problem with that
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > it is set to automatic.
    >
    > and how do I get to the update log?
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    >>
    >> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    >>
    >>
    >> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    >> illustration here:
    >>
    >>
    >> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can
    >> you
    >> successfully install them manually?
    >>
    >> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    >> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    >> --
    >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    >>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    >>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    >>> there
    >>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    >>> definitions
    >>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Aug 14, 2009
    #4
  6. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    I can download and install them manually it just doesn't do it automaticaly.
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "Rage Skywolfe" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Are any other updates being installed?
    >
    > yes I had no problem with that
    >
    > Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    >
    > it is set to automatic.
    >
    > and how do I get to the update log?:S
    > --
    > Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy
    >
    > Skywolfe
    >
    >
    > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    > >
    > > Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    > >
    > >
    > > Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > > choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    > > illustration here:
    > >
    > >
    > > Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can you
    > > successfully install them manually?
    > >
    > > Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > > include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    > > --
    > > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    > > > Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    > > > released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that there
    > > > are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the definitions
    > > > are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >
    > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009
    #5
  7. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    the check for updates within the application is what I have the problem with.
    it checks for them, it just doesn't download them. I get the saying that no
    new definition files are avaiable, so I don't know if that is meaning no new
    files are avaiable for the defender in vista or what.
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    >
    > How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    >
    >
    > Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now button
    > within the application?
    >
    > Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    > download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    > selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    >
    >
    >
    > Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Are any other updates being installed?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >
    > > yes I had no problem with that
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >
    > > it is set to automatic.
    > >
    > > and how do I get to the update log?
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    > >>
    > >> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    > >> illustration here:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can
    > >> you
    > >> successfully install them manually?
    > >>
    > >> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > >> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    > >> --
    > >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    > >>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    > >>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    > >>> there
    > >>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    > >>> definitions
    > >>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009
    #6
  8. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it just
    won't install new defs.
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    >
    > How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    >
    >
    > Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now button
    > within the application?
    >
    > Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    > download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    > selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    >
    >
    >
    > Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Are any other updates being installed?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >
    > > yes I had no problem with that
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >
    > > it is set to automatic.
    > >
    > > and how do I get to the update log?
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    > >>
    > >> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    > >> illustration here:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can
    > >> you
    > >> successfully install them manually?
    > >>
    > >> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > >> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    > >> --
    > >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    > >>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    > >>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    > >>> there
    > >>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    > >>> definitions
    > >>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009
    #7
  9. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Guest

    What defs version is currently installed?

    So "I can download and install them manually" means you can download/install
    defs via ,
    right?

    What about?...

    Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?


    Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it just
    > won't install new defs.
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    >>
    >> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    >>
    >>
    >> Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now button
    >> within the application?
    >>
    >> Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    >> download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    >> selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>> Are any other updates being installed?
    >>>
    >>> yes I had no problem with that
    >>>
    >>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?
    >>>
    >>> it is set to automatic.
    >>>
    >>> and how do I get to the update log?
    >>>
    >>>> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    >>>>
    >>>> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    >>>> illustration here:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can
    >>>> you
    >>>> successfully install them manually?
    >>>>
    >>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    >>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    >>>> regulation"?
    >>>> --
    >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    >>>>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    >>>>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    >>>>> there
    >>>>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    >>>>> definitions
    >>>>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Aug 14, 2009
    #8
  10. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    1.63.1484.0 is the current version installed which I installed earlier.
    manualy.

    So "I can download and install them manually" means you can download/install
    defs via ,
    right?

    Yes.

    Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?

    no.
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > What defs version is currently installed?
    >
    > So "I can download and install them manually" means you can download/install
    > defs via     ,
    > right?
    >
    > What about?...
    >
    > Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    >
    >
    > Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it just
    > > won't install new defs.
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    > >>
    > >> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now button
    > >> within the application?
    > >>
    > >> Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    > >> download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    > >> selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>>> Are any other updates being installed?
    > >>>
    > >>> yes I had no problem with that
    > >>>
    > >>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?
    > >>>
    > >>> it is set to automatic.
    > >>>
    > >>> and how do I get to the update log?
    > >>>
    > >>>> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    > >>>> illustration here:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can
    > >>>> you
    > >>>> successfully install them manually?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > >>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    > >>>> regulation"?
    > >>>> --
    > >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>>>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    > >>>>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    > >>>>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    > >>>>> there
    > >>>>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    > >>>>> definitions
    > >>>>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009
    #9
  11. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    I take that back but it is earlier in the logfile. when they installed the
    updates there were a lot of them that failed. and this is what part of that
    log looks like

    2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr * Update is not allowed to
    download due to regulation.
    2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > What defs version is currently installed?
    >
    > So "I can download and install them manually" means you can download/install
    > defs via ,
    > right?
    >
    > What about?...
    >
    > Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    >
    >
    > Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it just
    > > won't install new defs.
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    > >>
    > >> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now button
    > >> within the application?
    > >>
    > >> Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    > >> download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    > >> selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>>> Are any other updates being installed?
    > >>>
    > >>> yes I had no problem with that
    > >>>
    > >>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?
    > >>>
    > >>> it is set to automatic.
    > >>>
    > >>> and how do I get to the update log?
    > >>>
    > >>>> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    > >>>> illustration here:
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so, can
    > >>>> you
    > >>>> successfully install them manually?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > >>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    > >>>> regulation"?
    > >>>> --
    > >>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > >>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>>>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates for
    > >>>>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    > >>>>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    > >>>>> there
    > >>>>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    > >>>>> definitions
    > >>>>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009
    #10
  12. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Guest

    But no "Regulation" entries after 10 August?

    PS: I think you missed one:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Are [Defender] updates available when you run Windows Update manually?
    >> If so, can you successfully install them that way?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I take that back but it is earlier in the logfile. when they installed the
    > updates there were a lot of them that failed. and this is what part of
    > that
    > log looks like
    >
    > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr * Update is not allowed to
    > download due to regulation.
    > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    > {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    > 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    > download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    > {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    > 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    > download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> What defs version is currently installed?
    >>
    >> So "I can download and install them manually" means you can
    >> download/install defs via
    >> , right?
    >>
    >> What about?...
    >>
    >> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    >> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    >>
    >>
    >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it
    >>> just
    >>> won't install new defs.
    >>>
    >>>> Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    >>>>
    >>>> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now
    >>>> button
    >>>> within the application?
    >>>>
    >>>> Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    >>>> download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    >>>> selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>>> Are any other updates being installed?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> yes I had no problem with that
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> it is set to automatic.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> and how do I get to the update log?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    >>>>>> illustration here:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so,
    >>>>>> can
    >>>>>> you
    >>>>>> successfully install them manually?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    >>>>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    >>>>>> regulation"?
    >>>>>> --
    >>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>>>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates
    >>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    >>>>>>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    >>>>>>> there
    >>>>>>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    >>>>>>> definitions
    >>>>>>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Aug 14, 2009
    #11
  13. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender update
    that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am wondering
    if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with that
    or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    through the site as well as through the update settings or is that completly
    disabled?
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > But no "Regulation" entries after 10 August?
    >
    > PS: I think you missed one:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Are [Defender] updates available when you run Windows Update manually?
    > >> If so, can you successfully install them that way?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > I take that back but it is earlier in the logfile. when they installed the
    > > updates there were a lot of them that failed. and this is what part of
    > > that
    > > log looks like
    > >
    > > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr * Update is not allowed to
    > > download due to regulation.
    > > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    > > {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    > > 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    > > download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    > > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    > > {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    > > 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    > > download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> What defs version is currently installed?
    > >>
    > >> So "I can download and install them manually" means you can
    > >> download/install defs via
    > >> , right?
    > >>
    > >> What about?...
    > >>
    > >> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > >> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>> I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it
    > >>> just
    > >>> won't install new defs.
    > >>>
    > >>>> Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    > >>>>
    > >>>> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now
    > >>>> button
    > >>>> within the application?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    > >>>> download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    > >>>> selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>>>>> Are any other updates being installed?
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> yes I had no problem with that
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> it is set to automatic.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> and how do I get to the update log?
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    > >>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    > >>>>>> illustration here:
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so,
    > >>>>>> can
    > >>>>>> you
    > >>>>>> successfully install them manually?
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    > >>>>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    > >>>>>> regulation"?
    > >>>>>> --
    > >>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    > >>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >>>>>>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates
    > >>>>>>> for
    > >>>>>>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    > >>>>>>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    > >>>>>>> there
    > >>>>>>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    > >>>>>>> definitions
    > >>>>>>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 14, 2009
    #12
  14. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Guest

    Rage Skywolfe

    You have multiposted and you have also crossposted you have posted to the Vista
    groups the XP groups. So far I counted 9 different newsgroups. Have you checked all
    your other answers in your other posts concerning Defender

    My goodness you are really flying here in a Rage ( Skywolfe)

    --
    Peter

    Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

    "Rage Skywolfe" <RageSkywolfe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:7539B6E4-1FB3-44D3-A138-618298614630@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender update
    > that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am wondering
    > if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with that
    > or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    > through the site as well as through the update settings or is that completly
    > disabled?
    > --
    > Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy
    >
    > Skywolfe
    >
    >
    > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> But no "Regulation" entries after 10 August?
    >>
    >> PS: I think you missed one:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> >> Are [Defender] updates available when you run Windows Update manually?
    >> >> If so, can you successfully install them that way?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >>
    >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > I take that back but it is earlier in the logfile. when they installed the
    >> > updates there were a lot of them that failed. and this is what part of
    >> > that
    >> > log looks like
    >> >
    >> > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr * Update is not allowed to
    >> > download due to regulation.
    >> > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    >> > {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >> > 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    >> > download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    >> > 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    >> > {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >> > 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    >> > download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    >> >
    >> >> What defs version is currently installed?
    >> >>
    >> >> So "I can download and install them manually" means you can
    >> >> download/install defs via
    >> >> , right?
    >> >>
    >> >> What about?...
    >> >>
    >> >> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    >> >> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to regulation"?
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >> >>> I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it
    >> >>> just
    >> >>> won't install new defs.
    >> >>>
    >> >>>> Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now
    >> >>>> button
    >> >>>> within the application?
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving the
    >> >>>> download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    >> >>>> selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>>
    >> >>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >> >>>>>> Are any other updates being installed?
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> yes I had no problem with that
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >> >>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> it is set to automatic.
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>> and how do I get to the update log?
    >> >>>>>
    >> >>>>>> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >> >>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    >> >>>>>> illustration here:
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so,
    >> >>>>>> can
    >> >>>>>> you
    >> >>>>>> successfully install them manually?
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    >> >>>>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    >> >>>>>> regulation"?
    >> >>>>>> --
    >> >>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >> >>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>>
    >> >>>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >> >>>>>>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates
    >> >>>>>>> for
    >> >>>>>>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they are
    >> >>>>>>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read that
    >> >>>>>>> there
    >> >>>>>>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    >> >>>>>>> definitions
    >> >>>>>>> are there. what gives?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Peter Foldes, Aug 14, 2009
    #13
  15. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Guest

    Thanks for the heads up, Peter.

    Peter Foldes wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Rage Skywolfe
    >
    > You have multiposted and you have also crossposted you have posted to the
    > Vista groups the XP groups. So far I counted 9 different newsgroups. Have
    > you checked all your other answers in your other posts concerning Defender
    >
    > My goodness you are really flying here in a Rage ( Skywolfe)
    >
    >
    > "Rage Skywolfe" <RageSkywolfe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:7539B6E4-1FB3-44D3-A138-618298614630@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender
    >> update
    >> that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am
    >> wondering
    >> if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with
    >> that
    >> or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    >> through the site as well as through the update settings or is that
    >> completly disabled?
    >> --
    >> Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy
    >>
    >> Skywolfe
    >>
    >>
    >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> But no "Regulation" entries after 10 August?
    >>>
    >>> PS: I think you missed one:
    >>>
    >>>>> Are [Defender] updates available when you run Windows Update manually?
    >>>>> If so, can you successfully install them that way?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>> I take that back but it is earlier in the logfile. when they installed
    >>>> the updates there were a lot of them that failed. and this is what part
    >>>> of that
    >>>> log looks like
    >>>>
    >>>> 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr * Update is not allowed to
    >>>> download due to regulation.
    >>>> 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    >>>> {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >>>> 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can
    >>>> NOT
    >>>> download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    >>>> 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    >>>> {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >>>> 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can
    >>>> NOT
    >>>> download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    >>>>
    >>>>> What defs version is currently installed?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> So "I can download and install them manually" means you can
    >>>>> download/install defs via
    >>>>> ,
    >>>>> right? What about?...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    >>>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    >>>>> regulation"? Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>>> I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it
    >>>>>> just
    >>>>>> won't install new defs.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now
    >>>>>>> button
    >>>>>>> within the application?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    >>>>>>> selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Are any other updates being installed?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> yes I had no problem with that
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >>>>>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> it is set to automatic.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> and how do I get to the update log?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >>>>>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    >>>>>>>>> illustration here:
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If
    >>>>>>>>> so,
    >>>>>>>>> can
    >>>>>>>>> you
    >>>>>>>>> successfully install them manually?
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update
    >>>>>>>>> log include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    >>>>>>>>> regulation"?
    >>>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >>>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition
    >>>>>>>>>> updates
    >>>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they
    >>>>>>>>>> are
    >>>>>>>>>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read
    >>>>>>>>>> that there
    >>>>>>>>>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    >>>>>>>>>> definitions
    >>>>>>>>>> are there. what gives? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Aug 15, 2009
    #14
  16. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Guest

    Let's try that again: Are [Defender] updates available when you run Windows
    Update manually? If so, can you successfully install an update that way?
    (Wait another 12-14 hours or so before you try this.)


    Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender
    > update
    > that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am
    > wondering
    > if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with
    > that
    > or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    > through the site as well as through the update settings or is that
    > completly
    > disabled?
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> But no "Regulation" entries after 10 August?
    >>
    >> PS: I think you missed one:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>> Are [Defender] updates available when you run Windows Update manually?
    >>>> If so, can you successfully install them that way?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >>
    >> Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I take that back but it is earlier in the logfile. when they installed
    >>> the
    >>> updates there were a lot of them that failed. and this is what part of
    >>> that
    >>> log looks like
    >>>
    >>> 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr * Update is not allowed to
    >>> download due to regulation.
    >>> 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    >>> {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >>> 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    >>> download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    >>> 2009-08-10 03:33:56:069 1068 45c DnldMgr Regulation:
    >>> {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >>> 0B420363-69B8-4C7F-B24F-6509A4694EF1 is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    >>> download. Sequence 9479 vs AcceptRate 4141.
    >>>
    >>>> What defs version is currently installed?
    >>>>
    >>>> So "I can download and install them manually" means you can
    >>>> download/install defs via
    >>>> ,
    >>>> right?
    >>>>
    >>>> What about?...
    >>>>
    >>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update log
    >>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    >>>> regulation"?
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>> I forgot to add, when defender is opened it says that it is fine. it
    >>>>> just
    >>>>> won't install new defs.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Sorry, I meant to include the following in my first reply:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> How to read the WindowsUpdate.log file
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Can you update Defender successfully by clicking on the Update Now
    >>>>>> button
    >>>>>> within the application?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Can you download the latest defs from the following link by saving
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> download to your desktop and then right-clicking on the saved file &
    >>>>>> selecting Run as Administrator? =>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>>>>> Are any other updates being installed?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> yes I had no problem with that
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >>>>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> it is set to automatic.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> and how do I get to the update log?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> [crosspost to Windows Update newsgroup]
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Are any other updates being installed? cf.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Is Automatic Updates set to Automatic, Download updates but let me
    >>>>>>>> choose..., or Check for updates but let me choose... option? See
    >>>>>>>> illustration here:
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Are updates available when you run Windows Update manually? If so,
    >>>>>>>> can
    >>>>>>>> you
    >>>>>>>> successfully install them manually?
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Do the last 50 or so lines at the *bottom* of your Windows Update
    >>>>>>>> log
    >>>>>>>> include the phrase "Update is not allowed to download due to
    >>>>>>>> regulation"?
    >>>>>>>> --
    >>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    >>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> I am running Vista and I have a question on the Definition updates
    >>>>>>>>> for
    >>>>>>>>> Defender. I am curious as to why it isn't updating them as they
    >>>>>>>>> are
    >>>>>>>>> released. I go to check for updates and it doesn't seem to read
    >>>>>>>>> that
    >>>>>>>>> there
    >>>>>>>>> are new defnitions. but when I go to the defender website, the
    >>>>>>>>> definitions
    >>>>>>>>> are there. what gives?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Aug 15, 2009
    #15
  17. PA Bear [MS-MVP]

    PA Bear [MS-MVP] Guest

    Meanwhile, did you ever resolve this problem? =>


    On Aug 14, 11:43 pm, Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender update
    > that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am wondering
    > if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with that
    > or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    > through the site as well as through the update settings or is that completly
    > disabled?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    PA Bear [MS-MVP], Aug 15, 2009
    #16
  18. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    yeah I have posted to different groups on different things. I had a question
    on something within Vista because I am now running Vista what that has to do
    with a question on defender I have no clue. the question on defender I had on
    the xp groups was if there was a newer version released other than what was
    in the download center for Xp. as far as the internet explorer issue, yes it
    has been resolved for a few months now. things I have posted in the XP groups
    and yeah there have been a lot of them deal with that system.... different
    system,different circumstances..
    --
    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "PA Bear [MS-MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Meanwhile, did you ever resolve this problem? =>
    >
    >
    > On Aug 14, 11:43 pm, Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender update
    > > that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am wondering
    > > if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with that
    > > or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    > > through the site as well as through the update settings or is that completly
    > > disabled?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 15, 2009
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  19. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    and no no updates are offered by the windows update.
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    Skywolfe


    "PA Bear [MS-MVP]" wrote:
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    > Meanwhile, did you ever resolve this problem? =>
    >
    >
    > On Aug 14, 11:43 pm, Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender update
    > > that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am wondering
    > > if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with that
    > > or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    > > through the site as well as through the update settings or is that completly
    > > disabled?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 15, 2009
    #18
  20. Peter Foldes

    Peter Foldes Guest

    All your other posts which you crossposted and multiposted were about Windows
    Defender, That what it has to do with the post. Would have been much better if you
    kept everything about Defender under 1 roof

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    "Rage Skywolfe" <RageSkywolfe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:A60DA04A-7760-4448-AF24-415A016EEDC0@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > yeah I have posted to different groups on different things. I had a question
    > on something within Vista because I am now running Vista what that has to do
    > with a question on defender I have no clue. the question on defender I had on
    > the xp groups was if there was a newer version released other than what was
    > in the download center for Xp. as far as the internet explorer issue, yes it
    > has been resolved for a few months now. things I have posted in the XP groups
    > and yeah there have been a lot of them deal with that system.... different
    > system,different circumstances..
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    >
    > Skywolfe
    >
    >
    > "PA Bear [MS-MVP]" wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Meanwhile, did you ever resolve this problem? =>
    >>
    >>
    >> On Aug 14, 11:43 pm, Rage Skywolfe wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender update
    >> > that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am wondering
    >> > if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with that
    >> > or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    >> > through the site as well as through the update settings or is that completly
    >> > disabled?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Peter Foldes, Aug 15, 2009
    #19
  21. Rage Skywolfe

    Rage Skywolfe Guest

    ok.
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    Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy

    Skywolfe


    "Peter Foldes" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > All your other posts which you crossposted and multiposted were about Windows
    > Defender, That what it has to do with the post. Would have been much better if you
    > kept everything about Defender under 1 roof
    >
    > --
    > Peter
    >
    > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
    >
    > "Rage Skywolfe" <RageSkywolfe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:A60DA04A-7760-4448-AF24-415A016EEDC0@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > yeah I have posted to different groups on different things. I had a question
    > > on something within Vista because I am now running Vista what that has to do
    > > with a question on defender I have no clue. the question on defender I had on
    > > the xp groups was if there was a newer version released other than what was
    > > in the download center for Xp. as far as the internet explorer issue, yes it
    > > has been resolved for a few months now. things I have posted in the XP groups
    > > and yeah there have been a lot of them deal with that system.... different
    > > system,different circumstances..
    > > --
    > > Four Generations Of Trust And Betrayal...One Legacy
    > >
    > > Skywolfe
    > >
    > >
    > > "PA Bear [MS-MVP]" wrote:
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Meanwhile, did you ever resolve this problem? =>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> On Aug 14, 11:43 pm, Rage Skywolfe wrote:
    > >> > no there are no regulation entries after that. and the last defender update
    > >> > that was issued with windows update was issued on August 10. I am wondering
    > >> > if taking off the check ucing microsoft update had anything to do with that
    > >> > or not. it was only breifly though. and I am curious if you can also go
    > >> > through the site as well as through the update settings or is that completly
    > >> > disabled?
    > >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Rage Skywolfe, Aug 15, 2009
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