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Discussion in 'General Malware And Security' started by bob12a, Nov 29, 2010.

  1. bob12a

    bob12a Senior Member

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    PLEASE TAKE HEED THIS FROM MY NEPHEW YESTERDAY

    BOB




    Hi all



    I am forwarding from Local NHW and police just to make you aware



    Andrew


    Just had these sent to me via email.
    Hi all,

    This has been passed on via another Force area through our own Fraud Department In Wiltshire Constabulary, and it is a very convincing SCAM. We have been asked to disseminate the information as widely and as quickly as we can through Neighbourhood Watch, School Safe and others.
    This one is pretty slick since they provide YOU with all the information, except the one piece they want. Note, the callers do not ask for your card number; they already have it. This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA & MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better prepared to protect yourself.. One of our employees was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was called on Thursday from "MasterCard". The scam works like this: Person calling says, "This is (name), and I'm calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My badge number is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern, and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card which was issued by (name of bank) did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device for £497.99 from a Marketing company based in London ?" When you say "No", the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the charges range from £297 to £497, just under the £500 purchase pattern that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?" You say "yes". The caller continues - "I will be starting a fraud investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 0800 number listed on the back of your card (0800-VISA) and ask for Security. You will need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6 digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"

    Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works the caller then says, "I need to verify you are in possession of your card." He'll ask you to "turn your card over and look for some numbers." There are 7 numbers; the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security numbers that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him. After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct, I just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After you say, "No," the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to call back if you do", and hangs up You actually say very little, and they never ask for or tell you the Card number.

    But after we were called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of £497.99 was charged to our card. Long story - short - we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them . Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or MasterCard directly for verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3 Digit PIN Number, you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make, and by then it's almost too late and/or more difficult to actually file a fraud report.

    What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from a "Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish I hung up! We filed a police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking several of these reports daily! They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is happening.

    Please pass this on to all your family and friends.. By informing each other, we protect each other..
     
  2. Mara

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    Wow - how I wish the people perpetrating these kind of cruel scams would simply loose their ability to speak for a minimum of 1 year!

    Thanks for letting us know about this, Bob.
     
  3. DSTM (Dougie)

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    Thanks Bob.

    If you do any Banking on line or buy goods with credit cards,then you have a chance of losing your hard earned money.

    I will not indulge in these risky practices.Guess I am old fashioned.

    For me it's "International money transfer" or nothing.

    At least when I wake up tomorrow,I am confident the balance remains the same. :)
     
  4. PseFrank

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    Thanks Bob for the heads up. We must all be a little wary of cold callers.

    @ Mara.....Your kind and gentle nature is a credit to you Mara. If I had my way the perpetrators of this type of crime would lose the ability to reproduce for life!!!!
     
  5. DSTM (Dougie)

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    Not the Crown Jewels,Frank. That's a bit harsh. :snckr:
     
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    There is always a new gimmick out there ..... and the 'baddies' get more clever all the time. :(
     
  7. DSTM (Dougie)

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    The Internet is so huge,it is impossible to Police.

    Sooner or later,I think secure Financial Sites will be hacked.

    Where financial gain is concerned,there is no end to what these clever Crims, are capable of.
     
  8. Alan

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    The crooks just keep getting cleverer. How do they get the card details in the beginning? Is it from malware or by other means?
     
  9. starbuck

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    From what i've read .... the bad guys actually pay people that work for legit companies to pass on details.
    Money is the root of all evil!
     

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