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Very Slow Getting Into New Layout

Discussion in 'Networking' started by bob12a, Jan 6, 2010.

  1. gunnner

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    Hello Barry---Ok--here are the screen shots--
    2 done on FireFox & 2 done on IE.
    This did take some time to do, but was a good learning expierance!
    I use IE most all the time, don't know how to navigate well in FireFox!

    Let me know what ya think about the screen shots, but not able to do any more testing tonite---WORE OUT
    -----------------------------THANKS BARRY--------------gunnner :)
     

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  2. Match

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    Here is how to Ping

    1. From the desktop, click start [*]Select Run [*]In the Run box, type command [*]Click OK [*]The DOS window will pop up. At the C:\WINDOWS> prompt type ping www.computerhelpforums.net and press enter. [*]You will see some results pass through the screen. [*]It will tell you if there were any packets lost in the transfer (0% loss is what you want to see). [*]It will also tell you the average speed, in milliseconds. [*]To close the DOS window, type exit at the C:\WINDOWS> prompt and press enter.
    and this is what you should get
    CHF Ping.JPG

    and to check with another site just change the text in blue to that sites address ;)
     
  3. BeeCeeBee

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    This is one case where spelling counts. In the 2 attempts at pinging CHF there were typos in each one. As a result you got a time out. The ones to KH are not that great.
    Before you try again lets clear out the caches in both browsers. These are the instructions:

    In Firefox: Go to “tools” then select “Clear Recent History.” In the box that pops up select “Everything” in the top box. Check Browsing History and Downloads + Cookies + Cache and then “clear now.”

    Wait 30 seconds and close the browser.

    In Internet Explorer Go to “Tools” then “Internet Options.” In the “General” tab select “Delete” about half way down. I have Internet Explorer 8 so it may be slightly different in 7 but make sure you check Temporary Internet Files + History and Cookies. Then click OK. Wait for any progress bar that may appear and when it is done (it will disappear) close the browser.

    Check if things are better when you are done and let us know.
     
  4. DirtyPolo

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    As Barry said, spelling is important, as in both of the CHF pings, you actually pinged an entirely different site.
    I am not seeing any slow down when loading the site but my own ping does show an average of 122ms with 0% lost. Although it is only taking mere seconds to load any replies.
     
  5. gunnner

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    WELL---With DOUGIES help did a disc clean up & cleared cache! I think my computer is running a little faster now. There was quite a bit of stuff (unnecessary)in it. I think it was 5.85 mb ? So here are the new pings & other info. Take a look as i I really don't know how to read the numbers----------( & I hupe I spelled every thing rite :unsure: )
    Thanks to All Especially dtsm-----------------gunnner :D
     

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    You appear to have about 1mb download speed and your upload is not all that inconsistent with that. However, the round trip on pinging this site is simply awful. Try pinging google or your other forum again so we can make a comparison after you cleaned your cache. It is not this site. My ping times are just fine and while I don't want to compare because my service is overall much faster there simply is nothing here that could cause that.
     
  7. gunnner

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    OK---Here is the latest PINGS-----Take a look---tell me what ya think-------I really don't know how to read them :~(----------------------------gunnner :)
     

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    Gunnner that very last number that you see is the time in milliseconds that it takes for a signal (a ping) to leave your computer, reach the server hosting the website that you pinged and return to your computer. Frankly they are consistently bad. It also appears that your problem is not related to Computer Help Forums. Google which is sort of a universally accepted test is no better than the other forum and that forum is no better than earlier pings to us. In fact your earlier test results to us were actually better than the latest ones to google or KH. (Awful but better) CHF Avg = 646ms, Google =871ms and KH = 890ms. Compare that to Match's at about 144ms to CHF. Mine averages around 60ms.

    At one point BSchwarz suggested that you change your DNS server. That is probably the next step.

    The DNS server is the server used by your ISP to "accept your signal" and move it on through the net. If you were on a cable or ISDN ISP I would feel reasonably confident that we could find an alternate for you. I am not at all sure if we can do that with a satellite based ISP. (I am not suggesting that you can't, just that I don't know personally.) Obviously there must be a way but you may have to get in touch with the ISP. I am sure someone else here will know.

    Once a new DNS server is designated or selected, changing the settings in your computer is a pretty simple task.
     
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    This could also be a weather problem? and changing ISP may not resolve anything, This based on the fact I have satellite TV and if the weather is bad then the picture quality is bad, and occasionally no picture at all, just a default no signal message, this being displayed.

    I did contact the TV service provider and complain and they, somehow said they would boost the signal to my receiver box. and their has been a noted improvement in TV picture quality and less interference from bad weather.

    So it Might be an Idea to contact your Internet service provider (ISP) and explain that you have been suffering from a slow connection. and having problems with not connecting and loading web pages correctly.

    there should also be someway to check your signal strength from the satellite, but this information would be useless to me as I have no Idea what it should be or what good or bad would be classed as. But then if your ISP has a support line then they would be able to advise you better than us.

    So I would say your best bet would be to phone your Internet service provider and talk to them
     
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    I suspect that it would not be necessary to change the ISP in order to change the DNS server. When I was in Ireland I know that while I probably could change the geography of it made no sense.

    But again I really am not all that sure that the same rules apply when it comes to satellite.
     
  11. BSchwarz

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    I use my own DNS servers since ISP supplied nameservers tend to be unreliable. It shouldn't matter that he uses sat inet. He still should be able to set his DNS server to anything he wants. Just leave the ISP give him the IP.
     
  12. BSchwarz

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    Try:

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    tracert computerhelpforums.net
    I would like to see the route to the site. That will tell me where the bottleneck is and what can be done to fix it.
     
  13. BeeCeeBee

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    Gunnner just copy what bschwarz has posted and open the same cmd window you did when you ran the ping tests.

    Don't type ping just copy what the
    and press enter.

    It will take a bit longer than a ping test. Post the results.
     
  14. DSTM (Dougie)

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    Hi Bob,What is considered too many jumps,and what can be done, to reduce the Ping? Thanks.
     
  15. BSchwarz

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    The amount of jumps doesn't matter as long as the data flows without lag. There are things that can be done, but, not that an end user can do short of going to another provider.
     
  16. DirtyPolo

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    I also tried a tracert, and all times were quick <1 - 14ms, until it got to the 'dallas-datacenter.com' hops, where the times were 122ms on average :S
    8 hops total, hops 4-8 were > 120ms.

    hope I'm not seen as hijacking this thread, just experiencing some lag of my own.

    When I tracert my own site, which is hosted on a server also in dallas, I also get high times of > 120 for the last few hops.

    Google gets normal < 20ms times.
     
  17. DSTM (Dougie)

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    This thread is for all who are experiencing problems,DirtyPolo. :)
    I am really noticing lag time.
    I can't really change providors,Bob as here in OZ IP providors require Contracts.
    I have one of the best.
    Can you see problems with this Tracert Graph?
    Thanks.
    Like DirtyPolo. Dallas seems to be the Bottleneck.
    Doesn't that point to be a problem with your Server? BOB.

    [​IMG]

    This is Google.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. BSchwarz

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    For you Dougie it seems as soon as you cross to the U.S. you have problems. Notice the request timing out on that one hop in the google route. I will talk to my host. It looks like there is a slight bottleneck when entering their network. Might be the overseas route to the network because I don't have any high times in my route.

    Copy and paste that to the thread so I can post it in my email to them.
     
  19. BSchwarz

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    It looks like UUNet is the one having the problem. That is causing your part of your problem Dougie.
     
  20. gunnner

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    Try:
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    tracert computerhelpforums.net
    I would like to see the route to the site. That will tell me where the bottleneck is and what can be done to fix it.---------------
    OK Bob---I tried it------Looks like didn't do it rite????- :unsure: --gunnner
     

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