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"Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com> wrote in message
news:4A2D0A23.9E175309@Guy.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> FromTheRafters wrote:
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>> > I don't think Virus Guy has the needed language files installed
>> > to view Cycrillic and thus his confusion on this matter.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>> You're being kind.
>> )
>>
>> I'm sure he realizes that not everyone will see the same symbols
>> that he does.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I'm betting that the vast majority of people reading M.P.S.V do not
> have
> cyrillic fonts or language support installed on their system (I don't
> think that cyrillic language support is default on the typical US /
> Western English installation of any version of Windoze).
>
> But again that doesn't matter. The characters would be just as
> unintelligible to most people regardless if the text was displayed in
> it's proper font. What part of that concept do you guys not
> understand?
>
> I'm saying it was completely useless to full-quote the OP regardless
> how
> the characters are rendered for most people. Especially since there
> is
> little to no traffic or apparent readership in the russian group
> anyways.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

How do you determine "apparent readership"?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> He may be missing the subtle way that crossposting works in
>> this instance<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> What "subtle" way does crossposting work in this instance? Please
> explain. I want to hear your logic.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Had he not fullquoted, there would not have been any "content" for
whatever readership there might be (apparent or otherwise) in that
group. Sure, readers there could grab the reference ID from the headers
if they wanted to know what led up to that post, but why put them
through all that?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> - and the need to fullquote whatever content was in the
>> intitial post.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> There was no need. The text was unintelligible regardless how it's
> rendered.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I didn't know that, and I don't understand how *you* could know that.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Your reponse was not crafted in any way as a reponse to the
> OP anyways, so your argument for the need to full-quote is bogus.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

My response was to your post. Had I wanted to reply to the OP, I would
have. You asked why fullquote, I attempted to answer - but forgot who I
was talking to...I should know better...

 

From: "Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com>

| What exactly were you trying to say?

I'm saying YOU are mistaken in this thread.
I suggest... dropping the issue.

--
Dave

Multi-AV -

 

Fix your news reader, install the correct font's and stop thinking this is
an English speaking US only newsgroup. Idiot.


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"Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com> wrote in message
news:4A2D0A77.C7190EC4@Guy.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> The Real Truth MVP wrote:
>
> (more garbage as I and most other people see it)
>
> And why did you not post that garbage in
> microsoft.public.ru.russian.server?
>
> Do you think the OP will read it here you moron? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

FromTheRafters wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > I'm saying it was completely useless to full-quote the OP
> > regardless how the characters are rendered for most people.
> > Especially since there is little to no traffic or apparent
> > readership in the russian group anyways.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> How do you determine "apparent readership"?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Oh, is that what you want to talk about now? Is that how you want to
change the subject?

Ok, let's talk about that.

When there are hardly any posts in group, I'm betting there is hardly
any readership. Now are you going to dwell on that tangent?
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> >> He may be missing the subtle way that crossposting works in
> >> this instance<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> >
> > What "subtle" way does crossposting work in this instance? Please
> > explain. I want to hear your logic.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Had he not fullquoted, there would not have been any "content" for
> whatever readership there might be (apparent or otherwise) in that
> group.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Are you daft?

When you reply to a post, your new material is the defacto "content".
If you choose not to quote any part of the preceeding post, most readers
know how to go back up a thread and read the preceeding material if it's
necessary to understand your new content.

This is what Foldes added when he replied to the OP:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> crossposted to the public.ru.russian.server<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Do you think that "content" is in any way a coherent or useful
response? Does the OP need to see his original post (which Foldes
full-quoted) in order to understand or know the context of Folde's
response?
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Sure, readers there could grab the reference ID from the headers
> if they wanted to know what led up to that post, but why put them
> through all that?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

What newsreader do you use?

Any decent news reader (even google groups) will show in tree format all
threaded posts. The preceeding post is only a mouse click away. There
is never any need to full-quote when crafting a usenet reply, or worse,
to build a fully-quoted chain response.
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > There was no need. The text was unintelligible regardless how
> > it's rendered.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> I didn't know that, and I don't understand how *you* could know
> that.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

What do you mean that you "didn't know that" ??

What didn't you know? That the OP was composed of cyrillic characters?

If Foldes can read and write in Russian (cyrillic) then why didn't he
craft is response in Cyrillic?

 

"David H. Lipman" wrote:
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> | What exactly were you trying to say?
>
> I'm saying YOU are mistaken in this thread.
> I suggest... dropping the issue.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

I'm saying you haven't explained yourself, and I'm sure as hell not
going to drop the issue and leave it where you say I'm mistaken unless
or until you tell me how I'm mistaken.

 

Top Poaster and Full-Quoter The Real Fake wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Fix your news reader, install the correct font's and stop thinking
> this is an English speaking US only newsgroup. Idiot.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

You still don't understand. You can't grasp the simple concept that
having the correct fonts installed has no bearing on why I asked Foldes
why he full-quoted the OP in his reponse.

And this is an english-speaking newsgroup.

There are other microsoft.* groups that are centric to other languages,
as indicated in the name of the group. Any so-called MVP would know
that.

 

From: "Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com>

| "David H. Lipman" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> | What exactly were you trying to say?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> I'm saying YOU are mistaken in this thread.
>> I suggest... dropping the issue.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

| I'm saying you haven't explained yourself, and I'm sure as hell not
| going to drop the issue and leave it where you say I'm mistaken unless
| or until you tell me how I'm mistaken.

1. The topic was a DLL and CSID which are thought to be malicious

2. The subject matter was posted in Cyrillic and is quite legible (but not
understandable by me) posted by a Russian using; "charset="koi8-r"

3. Peter X-Posted this in a Russian group that *may* have someone capable of
translating that into English

4. Peter *had* to quote all text otherwise it would NOT be visible in the Russian NG of
question.

I saw/see NOTHING OT in the post and I don't see any problem with what Peter did. I think
you unjustly pounced on this.

BTW: There is no Russian anti virus NG in the Microsoft hierarchy.

--
Dave

Multi-AV -

 

como?
lo que en su vasta experiencia le hace pensar esto es solo Inglés


--
The Real Truth
*WARNING* Do NOT follow any advice given by the people listed below.
They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not waste
your time.
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"Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com> wrote in message
news:4A2DA496.34A8C2B1@Guy.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Top Poaster and Full-Quoter The Real Fake wrote:
><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Fix your news reader, install the correct font's and stop thinking
>> this is an English speaking US only newsgroup. Idiot.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You still don't understand. You can't grasp the simple concept that
> having the correct fonts installed has no bearing on why I asked Foldes
> why he full-quoted the OP in his reponse.
>
> And this is an english-speaking newsgroup.
>
> There are other microsoft.* groups that are centric to other languages,
> as indicated in the name of the group. Any so-called MVP would know
> that. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Virus Guy

C'mon and wake up and smell the coffee

--
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"Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com> wrote in message news:4A2DA496.34A8C2B1@Guy.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Top Poaster and Full-Quoter The Real Fake wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> Fix your news reader, install the correct font's and stop thinking
>> this is an English speaking US only newsgroup. Idiot.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> You still don't understand. You can't grasp the simple concept that
> having the correct fonts installed has no bearing on why I asked Foldes
> why he full-quoted the OP in his reponse.
>
> And this is an english-speaking newsgroup.
>
> There are other microsoft.* groups that are centric to other languages,
> as indicated in the name of the group. Any so-called MVP would know
> that.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->