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Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by stevespeed, Sep 14, 2009.

  1. stevespeed

    stevespeed Guest

    -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows XP
    Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not
    being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8 but
    got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story short I
    managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I
    un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. Now I
    want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it seems to
    think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to run this computer
    as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista cannot see my XP
    machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes this but when I download
    that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more recent version on
    my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista machine just cannot see
    my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought about fixing this before
    they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to get rid of the registry
    entry or whatever it is that tells the whole Microsoft network that I still
    have these things that I once installed but no longer have. If anyone knows
    a way to do this, I would be very grateful to have your advice. regards,
    Steve -
     
  2. > ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not
    > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you
    installed it before you installed SP3?

    About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3



    stevespeed wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows XP
    > Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not
    > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8
    > but
    > got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story
    > short
    > I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I
    > un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. Now I
    > want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it seems to
    > think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to run this
    > computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista cannot
    > see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes this but
    > when
    > I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more
    > recent
    > version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista machine
    > just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought about
    > fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to
    > get
    > rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole Microsoft
    > network that I still have these things that I once installed but no longer
    > have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very grateful to have
    > your advice. regards, Steve - <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. stevespeed

    stevespeed Guest

    --
    ss


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    > > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not
    > > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you
    > installed it before you installed SP3?
    >
    > About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3
    >
    >
    >
    > stevespeed wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows XP
    > > Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    > > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not
    > > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8
    > > but
    > > got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story
    > > short
    > > I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I
    > > un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. Now I
    > > want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it seems to
    > > think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to run this
    > > computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista cannot
    > > see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes this but
    > > when
    > > I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more
    > > recent
    > > version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista machine
    > > just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought about
    > > fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to
    > > get
    > > rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole Microsoft
    > > network that I still have these things that I once installed but no longer
    > > have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very grateful to have
    > > your advice. regards, Steve - <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. stevespeed

    stevespeed Guest

    Posting again because most of my last reply got lost in the ether! Maybe
    some time and money should be put into updating these discussion pages?

    Hi PA Bear,

    I will try to be concise in my answers as I notice from your posts elsewhere
    that you can be a grumpy old bear sometimes. (sore head?)

    Unfortunately I have to start off by admitting I cannot remember how I got
    back to IE7 (ducks below parapet). It was a while ago, I'm just a citizen.
    When it all went wrong I was all over the internet discussions, forums, blogs
    etc. I spent about 3 days on it and eventually managed to un-install SP3
    (can't remember if that was hard or how) then un-installed IE8. I remember
    it was not possible to un-install IE8 from add/remove, it was listed but the
    option just wasn't available, (is there a un-install IE8 file in IE8 that
    you can access directly?) I am sorry, I don't know. When I got back to IE7 I
    had lost the IE and Outlook Express icons from the task bar, (still missing),
    add-on toolbars didn't function (but did after un-install/re-install) and I'd
    lost my DVD drive! (Maybe that's a separate issue, I've changed the drive and
    now can play, and read from but not write too! Sorry about the digression) I
    have since re-installed and un-installed IE8 without problem. Now that I
    have tried it without add-ons getting in the way of installing I would like
    to use it but want to install XP SP3 first this time but, as I stated before,
    Windows update won't even offer it to me.

    I see from another post (listed just above this one "SP3 annoying") that
    Shenan Stanley has given very detailed instructions as to how one can install
    SP3 on a pre-cleaned and prepared machine. Can I follow those instructions
    and will I be able to download/install the SP3 package despite Update
    thinking I already have it. (I have searched my machine and as far as I can
    tell, I do not have SP3 on it now, though I know I did choose to install it
    from the "critical" updates offered and I did have the "baked in" problem
    that others have described. Is there a definitive way I can establish that
    it is not lying dormant in my system somewhere?)

    I await your reply with some trepidation but also hope, regards,
    --
    stevespeed


    "stevespeed" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > --
    > ss
    >
    >
    > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    > > > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not
    > > > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >
    > > Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you
    > > installed it before you installed SP3?
    > >
    > > About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > stevespeed wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > > > -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows XP
    > > > Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    > > > that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to not
    > > > being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8
    > > > but
    > > > got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story
    > > > short
    > > > I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I
    > > > un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was. Now I
    > > > want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it seems to
    > > > think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to run this
    > > > computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista cannot
    > > > see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes this but
    > > > when
    > > > I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more
    > > > recent
    > > > version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista machine
    > > > just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought about
    > > > fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to
    > > > get
    > > > rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole Microsoft
    > > > network that I still have these things that I once installed but no longer
    > > > have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very grateful to have
    > > > your advice. regards, Steve - <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > >
    > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. Somewhere in your turgid* prose I think you're asking me how to install SP3
    and get the computer fully-patched before reinstalling IE8.

    HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP2 fully patched


    TIP: You can probably skip Step #4.

    TIP: If you have NOT uninstalled IE8, do so before installing SP3.

    My personal recommendations for installing IE8:

    => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! =>


    NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're prepared
    to install IE8, double-click on the saved file.

    => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
    and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

    => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
    installing or uninstalling IE8.

    => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any
    anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
    before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
    third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
    Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

    => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8, then check-in at
    Windows Update and install any critical security updates offered. If a Root
    Certificates update is listed in the Optional Updates category, install it
    to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security.

    => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
    application version, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender),
    and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 before you
    decide install it.


    ================
    *



    stevespeed wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Posting again because most of my last reply got lost in the ether! Maybe
    > some time and money should be put into updating these discussion pages?
    >
    > Hi PA Bear,
    >
    > I will try to be concise in my answers as I notice from your posts
    > elsewhere
    > that you can be a grumpy old bear sometimes. (sore head?)
    >
    > Unfortunately I have to start off by admitting I cannot remember how I got
    > back to IE7 (ducks below parapet). It was a while ago, I'm just a
    > citizen.
    > When it all went wrong I was all over the internet discussions, forums,
    > blogs etc. I spent about 3 days on it and eventually managed to
    > un-install
    > SP3 (can't remember if that was hard or how) then un-installed IE8. I
    > remember it was not possible to un-install IE8 from add/remove, it was
    > listed but the option just wasn't available, (is there a un-install IE8
    > file in IE8 that you can access directly?) I am sorry, I don't know. When
    > I got back to IE7 I had lost the IE and Outlook Express icons from the
    > task
    > bar, (still missing), add-on toolbars didn't function (but did after
    > un-install/re-install) and I'd lost my DVD drive! (Maybe that's a separate
    > issue, I've changed the drive and now can play, and read from but not
    > write
    > too! Sorry about the digression) I have since re-installed and
    > un-installed IE8 without problem. Now that I have tried it without
    > add-ons
    > getting in the way of installing I would like to use it but want to
    > install
    > XP SP3 first this time but, as I stated before, Windows update won't even
    > offer it to me.
    >
    > I see from another post (listed just above this one "SP3 annoying") that
    > Shenan Stanley has given very detailed instructions as to how one can
    > install SP3 on a pre-cleaned and prepared machine. Can I follow those
    > instructions and will I be able to download/install the SP3 package
    > despite
    > Update thinking I already have it. (I have searched my machine and as far
    > as I can tell, I do not have SP3 on it now, though I know I did choose to
    > install it from the "critical" updates offered and I did have the "baked
    > in" problem that others have described. Is there a definitive way I can
    > establish that it is not lying dormant in my system somewhere?)
    >
    > I await your reply with some trepidation but also hope, regards,
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> --
    >> ss
    >>
    >>
    >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>>> ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    >>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to
    >>>> not
    >>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed
    >>>> IE8...
    >>>
    >>> Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you
    >>> installed it before you installed SP3?
    >>>
    >>> About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3
    >>>

    >>>
    >>>
    >>> stevespeed wrote:
    >>>> -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows
    >>>> XP
    >>>> Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3
    >>>> thing
    >>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to
    >>>> not
    >>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8
    >>>> but
    >>>> got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story
    >>>> short
    >>>> I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I
    >>>> un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was.
    >>>> Now
    >>>> I want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it
    >>>> seems to think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to
    >>>> run
    >>>> this computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista
    >>>> cannot see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes
    >>>> this but when
    >>>> I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more
    >>>> recent
    >>>> version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista
    >>>> machine
    >>>> just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought
    >>>> about
    >>>> fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to
    >>>> get
    >>>> rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole
    >>>> Microsoft network that I still have these things that I once installed
    >>>> but no longer have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very
    >>>> grateful to have your advice. regards, Steve -<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  6. stevespeed

    stevespeed Guest

    Thanks for your help PA Bear, I can tell you're a lovely person really,
    despite what evryone says. "Turgid" I was thinking more "mellifluous"
    myself, regards,
    --
    stevespeed


    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Somewhere in your turgid* prose I think you're asking me how to install SP3
    > and get the computer fully-patched before reinstalling IE8.
    >
    > HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP2 fully patched
    >
    >
    > TIP: You can probably skip Step #4.
    >
    > TIP: If you have NOT uninstalled IE8, do so before installing SP3.
    >
    > My personal recommendations for installing IE8:
    >
    > => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! =>
    >

    >
    > NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're prepared
    > to install IE8, double-click on the saved file.
    >
    > => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
    > and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.
    >
    > => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
    > installing or uninstalling IE8.
    >
    > => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any
    > anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
    > before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
    > third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
    > Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
    >
    > => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8, then check-in at
    > Windows Update and install any critical security updates offered. If a Root
    > Certificates update is listed in the Optional Updates category, install it
    > to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security.
    >
    > => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
    > application version, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender),
    > and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 before you
    > decide install it.
    >
    >
    > ================
    > *

    >
    >
    > stevespeed wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Posting again because most of my last reply got lost in the ether! Maybe
    > > some time and money should be put into updating these discussion pages?
    > >
    > > Hi PA Bear,
    > >
    > > I will try to be concise in my answers as I notice from your posts
    > > elsewhere
    > > that you can be a grumpy old bear sometimes. (sore head?)
    > >
    > > Unfortunately I have to start off by admitting I cannot remember how I got
    > > back to IE7 (ducks below parapet). It was a while ago, I'm just a
    > > citizen.
    > > When it all went wrong I was all over the internet discussions, forums,
    > > blogs etc. I spent about 3 days on it and eventually managed to
    > > un-install
    > > SP3 (can't remember if that was hard or how) then un-installed IE8. I
    > > remember it was not possible to un-install IE8 from add/remove, it was
    > > listed but the option just wasn't available, (is there a un-install IE8
    > > file in IE8 that you can access directly?) I am sorry, I don't know. When
    > > I got back to IE7 I had lost the IE and Outlook Express icons from the
    > > task
    > > bar, (still missing), add-on toolbars didn't function (but did after
    > > un-install/re-install) and I'd lost my DVD drive! (Maybe that's a separate
    > > issue, I've changed the drive and now can play, and read from but not
    > > write
    > > too! Sorry about the digression) I have since re-installed and
    > > un-installed IE8 without problem. Now that I have tried it without
    > > add-ons
    > > getting in the way of installing I would like to use it but want to
    > > install
    > > XP SP3 first this time but, as I stated before, Windows update won't even
    > > offer it to me.
    > >
    > > I see from another post (listed just above this one "SP3 annoying") that
    > > Shenan Stanley has given very detailed instructions as to how one can
    > > install SP3 on a pre-cleaned and prepared machine. Can I follow those
    > > instructions and will I be able to download/install the SP3 package
    > > despite
    > > Update thinking I already have it. (I have searched my machine and as far
    > > as I can tell, I do not have SP3 on it now, though I know I did choose to
    > > install it from the "critical" updates offered and I did have the "baked
    > > in" problem that others have described. Is there a definitive way I can
    > > establish that it is not lying dormant in my system somewhere?)
    > >
    > > I await your reply with some trepidation but also hope, regards,
    > ><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >>
    > >> --
    > >> ss
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>> ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    > >>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to
    > >>>> not
    > >>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed
    > >>>> IE8...
    > >>>
    > >>> Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you
    > >>> installed it before you installed SP3?
    > >>>
    > >>> About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3
    > >>>

    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> stevespeed wrote:
    > >>>> -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with Windows
    > >>>> XP
    > >>>> Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3
    > >>>> thing
    > >>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to
    > >>>> not
    > >>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed IE8
    > >>>> but
    > >>>> got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story
    > >>>> short
    > >>>> I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I
    > >>>> un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was.
    > >>>> Now
    > >>>> I want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it
    > >>>> seems to think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to
    > >>>> run
    > >>>> this computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running Vista
    > >>>> cannot see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes
    > >>>> this but when
    > >>>> I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more
    > >>>> recent
    > >>>> version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista
    > >>>> machine
    > >>>> just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought
    > >>>> about
    > >>>> fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have to
    > >>>> get
    > >>>> rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole
    > >>>> Microsoft network that I still have these things that I once installed
    > >>>> but no longer have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be very
    > >>>> grateful to have your advice. regards, Steve -<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  7. YW. I'm glad that my reputation precedes me. You may rise now.
    --
    ~PAÞ
    "I don't care what is written about me so long as it isn't true." (Dorothy
    Parker)


    stevespeed wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Thanks for your help PA Bear, I can tell you're a lovely person really,
    > despite what evryone says. "Turgid" I was thinking more "mellifluous"
    > myself, regards,
    >
    > PA Bear wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Somewhere in your turgid prose I think you're asking me how to install
    >> SP3
    >> and get the computer fully-patched before reinstalling IE8.
    >>
    >> HOW TO get a computer running WinXP SP2 fully patched
    >>
    >>
    >> TIP: You can probably skip Step #4.
    >>
    >> TIP: If you have NOT uninstalled IE8, do so before installing SP3.
    >>
    >> My personal recommendations for installing IE8:
    >>
    >> => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! =>
    >>

    >>
    >> NB: Save the installer to your desktop, do not Run it. When you're
    >> prepared to install IE8, double-click on the saved file.
    >>
    >> => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
    >> and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.
    >>
    >> => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon)
    >> before
    >> installing or uninstalling IE8.
    >>
    >> => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and
    >> any
    >> anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
    >> before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
    >> third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling
    >> the
    >> Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
    >>
    >> => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8, then check-in at
    >> Windows Update and install any critical security updates offered. If a
    >> Root Certificates update is listed in the Optional Updates category,
    >> install it to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security.
    >>
    >> => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
    >> application version, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender),
    >> and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 before you
    >> decide install it.
    >>
    >> stevespeed wrote:<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Posting again because most of my last reply got lost in the ether!
    >>> Maybe
    >>> some time and money should be put into updating these discussion pages?
    >>>
    >>> Hi PA Bear,
    >>>
    >>> I will try to be concise in my answers as I notice from your posts
    >>> elsewhere
    >>> that you can be a grumpy old bear sometimes. (sore head?)
    >>>
    >>> Unfortunately I have to start off by admitting I cannot remember how I
    >>> got
    >>> back to IE7 (ducks below parapet). It was a while ago, I'm just a
    >>> citizen.
    >>> When it all went wrong I was all over the internet discussions, forums,
    >>> blogs etc. I spent about 3 days on it and eventually managed to
    >>> un-install
    >>> SP3 (can't remember if that was hard or how) then un-installed IE8. I
    >>> remember it was not possible to un-install IE8 from add/remove, it was
    >>> listed but the option just wasn't available, (is there a un-install IE8
    >>> file in IE8 that you can access directly?) I am sorry, I don't know.
    >>> When
    >>> I got back to IE7 I had lost the IE and Outlook Express icons from the
    >>> task
    >>> bar, (still missing), add-on toolbars didn't function (but did after
    >>> un-install/re-install) and I'd lost my DVD drive! (Maybe that's a
    >>> separate
    >>> issue, I've changed the drive and now can play, and read from but not
    >>> write
    >>> too! Sorry about the digression) I have since re-installed and
    >>> un-installed IE8 without problem. Now that I have tried it without
    >>> add-ons
    >>> getting in the way of installing I would like to use it but want to
    >>> install
    >>> XP SP3 first this time but, as I stated before, Windows update won't
    >>> even
    >>> offer it to me.
    >>>
    >>> I see from another post (listed just above this one "SP3 annoying") that
    >>> Shenan Stanley has given very detailed instructions as to how one can
    >>> install SP3 on a pre-cleaned and prepared machine. Can I follow those
    >>> instructions and will I be able to download/install the SP3 package
    >>> despite
    >>> Update thinking I already have it. (I have searched my machine and as
    >>> far
    >>> as I can tell, I do not have SP3 on it now, though I know I did choose
    >>> to
    >>> install it from the "critical" updates offered and I did have the "baked
    >>> in" problem that others have described. Is there a definitive way I can
    >>> establish that it is not lying dormant in my system somewhere?)
    >>>
    >>> I await your reply with some trepidation but also hope, regards,
    >>>
    >>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>> ...I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3 thing
    >>>>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to
    >>>>>> not
    >>>>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed
    >>>>>> IE8...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Assuming "SP3 thing" means WinXP SP3, how did you uninstall IE8 if you
    >>>>> installed it before you installed SP3?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> About IE7 & IE8 and Windows XP Service Pack 3
    >>>>>

    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> stevespeed wrote:
    >>>>>> -Hi, Hope someone can help me. I run a Pentium 4 machine with
    >>>>>> Windows
    >>>>>> XP
    >>>>>> Media Centre Edition. I did the update to IE8 and then install SP3
    >>>>>> thing
    >>>>>> that other people have had trouble with. I had trouble too, (due to
    >>>>>> not
    >>>>>> being aware of problem with add-on toolbars etc.) so I un-installed
    >>>>>> IE8
    >>>>>> but
    >>>>>> got into the problems others have had with that. To cut a long story
    >>>>>> short
    >>>>>> I managed to get back to IE7 and recovered my settings for that. I
    >>>>>> un-installed SP3 and got my machine back to pretty much how it was.
    >>>>>> Now
    >>>>>> I want to install SP3 but Windows update won't offer it to me as it
    >>>>>> seems to think I already have it installed. The thing is, I want to
    >>>>>> run
    >>>>>> this computer as part of my home lan and my sons computer running
    >>>>>> Vista
    >>>>>> cannot see my XP machine. I want to install the LLD file that fixes
    >>>>>> this but when
    >>>>>> I download that fix it wont install as it says I already have a more
    >>>>>> recent
    >>>>>> version on my machine, which I do not! (certainly my sons Vista
    >>>>>> machine
    >>>>>> just cannot see my XP machine, you'd think someone would of thought
    >>>>>> about
    >>>>>> fixing this before they put Vista out) So it seems to me that I have
    >>>>>> to
    >>>>>> get
    >>>>>> rid of the registry entry or whatever it is that tells the whole
    >>>>>> Microsoft network that I still have these things that I once
    >>>>>> installed
    >>>>>> but no longer have. If anyone knows a way to do this, I would be
    >>>>>> very
    >>>>>> grateful to have your advice. regards, Steve - <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     

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