update (KB951847)

I installed KB951847 and after restart my computer had returned to almost
new. ie no email contacts no favorites nothing set up and was asking me if I
wanted to tour windowXP and transfer data from my old computer . I unistalled
it, rebooted and am back to normal >> what happened to me?? was it this
update?

 

Hello Susan,

This is the KB/951847
<http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951847>

For help,
<https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?iid=38&iguid=3fe12420-4ae4-42f0-b61e-4308cd683da5_1_2&rdpath=1>
-=-
"susan" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I installed KB951847 and after restart my computer had returned to almost
> new. ie no email contacts no favorites nothing set up and was asking me if I
> wanted to tour windowXP and transfer data from my old computer . I unistalled
> it, rebooted and am back to normal >> what happened to me?? was it this
> update?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

thanks but I know where to find the update and help and support. I wanted to
know if this was a problem others were having or do I have a problem with my
computer

"Engel" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Hello Susan,
>
> This is the KB/951847
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951847>
>
> For help,
> <https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?iid=38&iguid=3fe12420-4ae4-42f0-b61e-4308cd683da5_1_2&rdpath=1>
> -=-
> "susan" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > I installed KB951847 and after restart my computer had returned to almost
> > new. ie no email contacts no favorites nothing set up and was asking me if I
> > wanted to tour windowXP and transfer data from my old computer . I unistalled
> > it, rebooted and am back to normal >> what happened to me?? was it this
> > update?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Hello
I have just had this enormous update offered through Windows Update.
Do I need it? I am not a developer and as far as I know I don't use .Net.
Is there any security implication if I don't download this??

Am I the only who gets tired of Microsoft's endless - almost daily -
updates? One would think that they might have sorted out the problems before
they shipped the software!

I always review and then approve/disallow the updates because there are
times when MS tries to slip in non-important things and things that are not
related to security - which I think is wrong, personally.

Cheers

"susan" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> thanks but I know where to find the update and help and support. I wanted to
> know if this was a problem others were having or do I have a problem with my
> computer
>
> "Engel" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> >
> > Hello Susan,
> >
> > This is the KB/951847
> > <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951847>
> >
> > For help,
> > <https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?iid=38&iguid=3fe12420-4ae4-42f0-b61e-4308cd683da5_1_2&rdpath=1>
> > -=-
> > "susan" wrote:
> > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > I installed KB951847 and after restart my computer had returned to almost
> > > new. ie no email contacts no favorites nothing set up and was asking me if I
> > > wanted to tour windowXP and transfer data from my old computer . I unistalled
> > > it, rebooted and am back to normal >> what happened to me?? was it this
> > > update?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Clinton Bell wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I have just had this enormous update offered through Windows Update.
> Do I need it? I am not a developer and as far as I know I don't use .Net.
> Is there any security implication if I don't download this??<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Theoretically, if you've been offered the update then you are using .NET. It
was probably installed by some other piece of software which will need it in
order to function. Check in Add/Remove Programs to see if any versions of .NET
are currently installed. If they are, it is probably best to update them.

In most cases (to the best of my current understanding) the update isn't nearly
as large as it says it is, so I'd suggest you try starting the download and see
what happens.

Harry.

 

Hello Harry
Thanks for your reply - that was helpful. I checked and I don't have .NET
installed so I am stayng away from this Update.
Many thanks for your help.
Clinton

"Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Clinton Bell wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > I have just had this enormous update offered through Windows Update.
> > Do I need it? I am not a developer and as far as I know I don't use .Net.
> > Is there any security implication if I don't download this??<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Theoretically, if you've been offered the update then you are using .NET. It
> was probably installed by some other piece of software which will need it in
> order to function. Check in Add/Remove Programs to see if any versions of .NET
> are currently installed. If they are, it is probably best to update them.
>
> In most cases (to the best of my current understanding) the update isn't nearly
> as large as it says it is, so I'd suggest you try starting the download and see
> what happens.
>
> Harry.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I might be naive but as long as there our forces out there trying to get into
my computer I hope Microsoft is still proactively trying to make it more
difficult and providing me the updates to protect myself. Also, if I have to
choose between having Microsoft loading something on my computer or someone I
do not know loading something on my computer. I'll take Microsoft.

That said; this update and the KB960082 have been a royal pain. I support
10 companies and these updates have not gone smooth on any of the domains I
support. So your issues are not an anomaly.
--
rpspiker
There is no right way to do a wrong thing.<><


"Clinton Bell" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Hello
> I have just had this enormous update offered through Windows Update.
> Do I need it? I am not a developer and as far as I know I don't use .Net.
> Is there any security implication if I don't download this??
>
> Am I the only who gets tired of Microsoft's endless - almost daily -
> updates? One would think that they might have sorted out the problems before
> they shipped the software!
>
> I always review and then approve/disallow the updates because there are
> times when MS tries to slip in non-important things and things that are not
> related to security - which I think is wrong, personally.
>
> Cheers
>
> "susan" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > thanks but I know where to find the update and help and support. I wanted to
> > know if this was a problem others were having or do I have a problem with my
> > computer
> >
> > "Engel" wrote:
> > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > >
> > > Hello Susan,
> > >
> > > This is the KB/951847
> > > <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951847>
> > >
> > > For help,
> > > <https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?iid=38&iguid=3fe12420-4ae4-42f0-b61e-4308cd683da5_1_2&rdpath=1>
> > > -=-
> > > "susan" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I installed KB951847 and after restart my computer had returned to almost
> > > > new. ie no email contacts no favorites nothing set up and was asking me if I
> > > > wanted to tour windowXP and transfer data from my old computer . I unistalled
> > > > it, rebooted and am back to normal >> what happened to me?? was it this
> > > > update?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I too have been suffering with this stupid update from the standpoint that
although it is dated Aug 2008 I STILL CANNOT INSTALL IT! (Its Now May 20,
2009)

The download takes place, then the install only to end up with a screen that
informs me that the update failed! This has been happening for months and has
also been happening throughout my use of XP Professional with prior updates!
(And NO, additional security programs are NOT the problem!)

XP Professional my foot... This is garbage!

On the other hand, my other 2 Mac OS-X systems have NEVER had any updating
issues. GUESS THE EXTRA $$$ ARE WELL WORTH IT TO ME AND OTHERS!

Signed, a very tired of Windows Crap professional user and now a Very Happy
Mac user eagerly waiting Snow Leopard! Just the facts folks!


"Engel" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
>
> Hello Susan,
>
> This is the KB/951847
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951847>
>
> For help,
> <https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?iid=38&iguid=3fe12420-4ae4-42f0-b61e-4308cd683da5_1_2&rdpath=1>
> -=-
> "susan" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > I installed KB951847 and after restart my computer had returned to almost
> > new. ie no email contacts no favorites nothing set up and was asking me if I
> > wanted to tour windowXP and transfer data from my old computer . I unistalled
> > it, rebooted and am back to normal >> what happened to me?? was it this
> > update?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

You're not running .NET Framework on a Mac, buddy.

SiCHIPS wrote:
<snip><!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> On the other hand, my other 2 Mac OS-X systems have NEVER had any updating
> issues. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Yes, true but...

Why should my Mac care about not having the .Net
afforded capabilities?
What is it that you think my Macs
are missing?

Everything including screen and file sharing
works flawlessly...

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> You're not running .NET Framework on a Mac, buddy.
>
> SiCHIPS wrote:
> <snip><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > On the other hand, my other 2 Mac OS-X systems have NEVER had any updating
> > issues. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Things may not be as flawless as you think they are:

Breakfast: Java, Serial, and an Apple

<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> According to Julien Tinnes in the CR0 Blog ()
> it appears that Apple's recent security update failed to fix a Java flaw that was reported
> to Sun back in August 2008 and patched by Sun way back in December 2008.
> The upshot: according to the blog (and I've yet to be able to independently confirm it) any
> browser on OSX that uses the Apple-supplied version of Java is vulnerable to remote exploitation
> against a class of flaws known as Java deserialization vulnerabilities.
> Deserialization is the process of retrieving stored data that an application previously "persisted."
> Deserialization attacks take advantage of the fact that the deserialization process trusts that the
> data being pulled from storage is correctly formatted-- i.e. it contains only the types of data
> expected.
>
> It's all rather complicated, but suffice to say, both Firefox and Safari appear to be exploitable, so
> until we hear something definitive from Apple on the subject, we would recommend running with Java
> disabled in your browser on OSX.
>
> Speaking of hearing something definitive from AAPL, I'll be happy to print whatever they send us in
> an update to this diary.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Unaddressed critical Java vulnerability in OS X


As to other issues associated with updating Macs:

Apple MacBook and MacBook Pro sleep issues with Mac OS X 10.5.7 update


MobileMe Sync Issues since Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.7 update


MacFixIt readers report: Mac OS X 10.5.7 update issues



MowGreen
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
===============



SiCHIPS wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Yes, true but...
>
> Why should my Mac care about not having the .Net
> afforded capabilities?
> What is it that you think my Macs
> are missing?
>
> Everything including screen and file sharing
> works flawlessly...
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>>You're not running .NET Framework on a Mac, buddy.
>>
>>SiCHIPS wrote:
>><snip>
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>>On the other hand, my other 2 Mac OS-X systems have NEVER had any updating
>>>issues. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>>
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Okay..I keep getting the same thing too! Except, I'm not using a MAC. I've
got Windows Vista Home Premium. I keep trying to download and install the
KB951847 update AND IE8, but it won't take. Those two updates FAIL
EVERYTIME!!! Don't know if I really need to have the KB951847 update or not,
but I guess since MS keeps telling me I need it, then I must need it. WHY
WILL IT NOT LET ME INSTALL THE DARN THING!!!!
Frustrating......

"SiCHIPS" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I too have been suffering with this stupid update from the standpoint that
> although it is dated Aug 2008 I STILL CANNOT INSTALL IT! (Its Now May 20,
> 2009)
>
> The download takes place, then the install only to end up with a screen that
> informs me that the update failed! This has been happening for months and has
> also been happening throughout my use of XP Professional with prior updates!
> (And NO, additional security programs are NOT the problem!)
>
> XP Professional my foot... This is garbage!
>
> On the other hand, my other 2 Mac OS-X systems have NEVER had any updating
> issues. GUESS THE EXTRA $$$ ARE WELL WORTH IT TO ME AND OTHERS!
>
> Signed, a very tired of Windows Crap professional user and now a Very Happy
> Mac user eagerly waiting Snow Leopard! Just the facts folks!
>
>
> "Engel" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> >
> > Hello Susan,
> >
> > This is the KB/951847
> > <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951847>
> >
> > For help,
> > <https://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx?iid=38&iguid=3fe12420-4ae4-42f0-b61e-4308cd683da5_1_2&rdpath=1>
> > -=-
> > "susan" wrote:
> > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> > > I installed KB951847 and after restart my computer had returned to almost
> > > new. ie no email contacts no favorites nothing set up and was asking me if I
> > > wanted to tour windowXP and transfer data from my old computer . I unistalled
> > > it, rebooted and am back to normal >> what happened to me?? was it this
> > > update?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

CJake wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> Okay..I keep getting the same thing too! Except, I'm not using a MAC. I've
> got Windows Vista Home Premium. I keep trying to download and install the
> KB951847 update AND IE8, but it won't take. Those two updates FAIL
> EVERYTIME!!! Don't know if I really need to have the KB951847 update or not,
> but I guess since MS keeps telling me I need it, then I must need it. WHY
> WILL IT NOT LET ME INSTALL THE DARN THING!!!!
> Frustrating......<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

Have you tried installing just one of the two updates?

Have you tried downloading them from the download center and installing them in
Safe Mode?

Harry.

 

I've tried to install the "Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and
..NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847 x86 and the IE 8 separately to no
success.
I've also read some of the other posts by other users on this thread. I
guess the question I have, is how "important" is this update and if it's so
important, why won't in install the way EVERY other update from Microsoft
does? Why would I have to go into safe mode to install an "important" MS
update? I know...a lot of questions, but I'm a liitle hesitant.

"Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> CJake wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > Okay..I keep getting the same thing too! Except, I'm not using a MAC. I've
> > got Windows Vista Home Premium. I keep trying to download and install the
> > KB951847 update AND IE8, but it won't take. Those two updates FAIL
> > EVERYTIME!!! Don't know if I really need to have the KB951847 update or not,
> > but I guess since MS keeps telling me I need it, then I must need it. WHY
> > WILL IT NOT LET ME INSTALL THE DARN THING!!!!
> > Frustrating......<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>
> Have you tried installing just one of the two updates?
>
> Have you tried downloading them from the download center and installing them in
> Safe Mode?
>
> Harry.
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

These updates usually will install in the same way as every other update. The
fact that they won't suggests a problem with your computer ... which might (or
might not) be resolved by installing them in Safe Mode.

If you search this newsgroup for .NET issues, you should find some other
recommendations, as .NET does tend to develop more problems than the average
bear. I'm not sure why you'd be having trouble with IE8, though.

Have you tried turning off your anti-virus and firewall software before the
installation?

Harry.

CJake wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I've tried to install the "Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and
> .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847 x86 and the IE 8 separately to no
> success.
> I've also read some of the other posts by other users on this thread. I
> guess the question I have, is how "important" is this update and if it's so
> important, why won't in install the way EVERY other update from Microsoft
> does? Why would I have to go into safe mode to install an "important" MS
> update? I know...a lot of questions, but I'm a liitle hesitant.
>
> "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
>> CJake wrote:
>><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
>>> Okay..I keep getting the same thing too! Except, I'm not using a MAC. I've
>>> got Windows Vista Home Premium. I keep trying to download and install the
>>> KB951847 update AND IE8, but it won't take. Those two updates FAIL
>>> EVERYTIME!!! Don't know if I really need to have the KB951847 update or not,
>>> but I guess since MS keeps telling me I need it, then I must need it. WHY
>>> WILL IT NOT LET ME INSTALL THE DARN THING!!!!
>>> Frustrating......<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
>> Have you tried installing just one of the two updates?
>>
>> Have you tried downloading them from the download center and installing them in
>> Safe Mode?
>>
>> Harry.
>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

Simply install the 3 updates mentioned here in the exact order mentioned and
your problem will be fixed




"Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> These updates usually will install in the same way as every other update. The
> fact that they won't suggests a problem with your computer ... which might (or
> might not) be resolved by installing them in Safe Mode.
>
> If you search this newsgroup for .NET issues, you should find some other
> recommendations, as .NET does tend to develop more problems than the average
> bear. I'm not sure why you'd be having trouble with IE8, though.
>
> Have you tried turning off your anti-virus and firewall software before the
> installation?
>
> Harry.
>
> CJake wrote:
> <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
> > I've tried to install the "Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 and
> > .NET Framework 3.5 Family Update (KB951847 x86 and the IE 8 separately to no
> > success.
> > I've also read some of the other posts by other users on this thread. I
> > guess the question I have, is how "important" is this update and if it's so
> > important, why won't in install the way EVERY other update from Microsoft
> > does? Why would I have to go into safe mode to install an "important" MS
> > update? I know...a lot of questions, but I'm a liitle hesitant.
> >
> > "Harry Johnston [MVP]" wrote:
> > <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
> >> CJake wrote:
> >>
> >>> Okay..I keep getting the same thing too! Except, I'm not using a MAC. I've
> >>> got Windows Vista Home Premium. I keep trying to download and install the
> >>> KB951847 update AND IE8, but it won't take. Those two updates FAIL
> >>> EVERYTIME!!! Don't know if I really need to have the KB951847 update or not,
> >>> but I guess since MS keeps telling me I need it, then I must need it. WHY
> >>> WILL IT NOT LET ME INSTALL THE DARN THING!!!!
> >>> Frustrating......
> >> Have you tried installing just one of the two updates?
> >>
> >> Have you tried downloading them from the download center and installing them in
> >> Safe Mode?
> >>
> >> Harry.
> >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

 

I installed the same update and now everything on my computer takes FOREVER
to open or occur when I click on something. Just trying to open the Control
Panel took minutes and it was showing me that animated icon that appears when
the computer is searching a network (waving flashlight) as if it couldn't
FIND the Control Panel! WTH???

"susan" wrote:
<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
> I installed KB951847 and after restart my computer had returned to almost
> new. ie no email contacts no favorites nothing set up and was asking me if I
> wanted to tour windowXP and transfer data from my old computer . I unistalled
> it, rebooted and am back to normal >> what happened to me?? was it this
> update?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->