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Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by Old Codger \(NM\), Nov 18, 2008.

  1. Please state your full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3) when posting to
    this newsgroup.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I have turned off all firewalls, antivirus, malware, etc. and still won't
    > work.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Turn them on again.
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > This happened following the last massive updates of a week or so ago<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Were you able to successfully install the "massive updates of a week or so
    ago"? If so, did you install them via Automatic Update or manually via
    Windows Update website? Finally, what updates were installed?

    What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
    subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
    What third-party firewall (if any)?
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
    AumHa VSOP & Admin
    DTS-L


    Old Codger (NM) wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Windows XP fully updated; IE7.
    >
    > I can no longer access the Update site:
    >

    >
    > I have turned off all firewalls, antivirus, malware, etc. and still won't
    > work. This happened following the last massive updates of a week or so
    > ago.
    >
    > IE7 will show "Checking if your computer has..." and then freezes. I've
    > tried the few suggestions provided but to no avail. Any fresh ideas?
    >
    > * Cross posted to m.p.w.help_and_support for more possible help <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  2. neil

    neil Guest

  3. jbrinsonlott

    jbrinsonlott Guest

    I am havong problems with windows updat it won't install the update windows
    agent, Yhis is what I get "Internet Explorer (Add-ons Disabled) mode only
    prevents the use of ActiveX controls, including those used by the Microsoft
    Update website. To get updates using this browser mode, you need to turn on
    Automatic Updates on your computer or visit the Windows Update website."
    HELP



    "neil" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Make sure your IE options security level for the internet zone is set to
    > default.
    > Neil
    > "Old Codger (NM)" <old.codger@overthehill.com> wrote in message
    > news:7F8CEBD8-FD5B-4F44-879C-7DF8E6BC546C@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Windows XP fully updated; IE7.
    > >
    > > I can no longer access the Update site:
    > >
    > >
    > > I have turned off all firewalls, antivirus, malware, etc. and still won't
    > > work. This happened following the last massive updates of a week or so
    > > ago.
    > >
    > > IE7 will show "Checking if your computer has..." and then freezes. I've
    > > tried the few suggestions provided but to no avail. Any fresh ideas?
    > >
    > > * Cross posted to m.p.w.help_and_support for more possible help
    > >
    > > Old Codger
    > > = = =
    > > "Well, the conference met today and appointed a commission to meet
    > > tomorrow and appoint a delegation which will eventually appoint a
    > > subcommittee to draw up ways and means of finding out what to start with
    > > first."
    > > -Will Rogers
    > > = = =
    > >
    > > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. neil

    neil Guest

    That would suggest you are using the wrong shortcut to start Internet
    Explorer. What shortcut do you use to open IE, try from the start menu and
    go to the "run" command and type iexplorer.exe and see what happens. If it
    loads normally then you need to investigate your shortcuts.
    Neil
    "jbrinsonlott" <jbrinsonlott@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4757CBA6-4518-4BCF-8357-DD846AB313C8@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I am havong problems with windows updat it won't install the update windows
    > agent, Yhis is what I get "Internet Explorer (Add-ons Disabled) mode only
    > prevents the use of ActiveX controls, including those used by the
    > Microsoft
    > Update website. To get updates using this browser mode, you need to turn
    > on
    > Automatic Updates on your computer or visit the Windows Update website."
    > HELP
    >
    >
    >
    > "neil" wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Make sure your IE options security level for the internet zone is set to
    >> default.
    >> Neil
    >> "Old Codger (NM)" <old.codger@overthehill.com> wrote in message
    >> news:7F8CEBD8-FD5B-4F44-879C-7DF8E6BC546C@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >> > Windows XP fully updated; IE7.
    >> >
    >> > I can no longer access the Update site:
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > I have turned off all firewalls, antivirus, malware, etc. and still
    >> > won't
    >> > work. This happened following the last massive updates of a week or so
    >> > ago.
    >> >
    >> > IE7 will show "Checking if your computer has..." and then freezes.
    >> > I've
    >> > tried the few suggestions provided but to no avail. Any fresh ideas?
    >> >
    >> > * Cross posted to m.p.w.help_and_support for more possible help
    >> >
    >> > Old Codger
    >> > = = =
    >> > "Well, the conference met today and appointed a commission to meet
    >> > tomorrow and appoint a delegation which will eventually appoint a
    >> > subcommittee to draw up ways and means of finding out what to start
    >> > with
    >> > first."
    >> > -Will Rogers
    >> > = = =
    >> >
    >> ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >>
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  5. Miracles still happen! After not working for days, and after throwing my
    hands in the air in disgust, IE7 and the Update site are speaking again! I
    stopped tinkering after Pa Bear gave his suggestions and they didn't work
    and was just waiting for someone to reply with info that would cure the
    problem or wait for MS to realize the Update site had a problem and fix it.
    Whatever happened today, it's working again!

    Thanks to those that tried to help and thanks to whomever wherever that
    fixed it.

    Old Codger
    = = =

    "Old Codger (NM)" <old.codger@overthehill.com> wrote in message
    news:7F8CEBD8-FD5B-4F44-879C-7DF8E6BC546C@microsoft.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Windows XP fully updated; IE7.
    >
    > I can no longer access the Update site:
    >
    >
    > I have turned off all firewalls, antivirus, malware, etc. and still won't
    > work. This happened following the last massive updates of a week or so
    > ago.
    >
    > IE7 will show "Checking if your computer has..." and then freezes. I've
    > tried the few suggestions provided but to no avail. Any fresh ideas?
    >
    > * Cross posted to m.p.w.help_and_support for more possible help
    >
    > Old Codger
    > = = =
    > "Well, the conference met today and appointed a commission to meet
    > tomorrow and appoint a delegation which will eventually appoint a
    > subcommittee to draw up ways and means of finding out what to start with
    > first."
    > -Will Rogers
    > = = =
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  6. > I stopped tinkering after Pa Bear gave his suggestions...

    Why didn't you reply to my post and answer my questions?
    --
    ~PA Bear

    Old Codger (NM) wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Miracles still happen! After not working for days, and after throwing my
    > hands in the air in disgust, IE7 and the Update site are speaking again! I
    > stopped tinkering after Pa Bear gave his suggestions and they didn't work
    > and was just waiting for someone to reply with info that would cure the
    > problem or wait for MS to realize the Update site had a problem and fix
    > it.
    > Whatever happened today, it's working again!
    >
    > Thanks to those that tried to help and thanks to whomever wherever that
    > fixed it.
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Windows XP fully updated; IE7.
    >>
    >> I can no longer access the Update site:
    >>
    >>
    >> I have turned off all firewalls, antivirus, malware, etc. and still won't
    >> work. This happened following the last massive updates of a week or so
    >> ago.
    >>
    >> IE7 will show "Checking if your computer has..." and then freezes. I've
    >> tried the few suggestions provided but to no avail. Any fresh ideas? <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  7. My bad, I thought I had. Sorry. I did appreciate your suggestions.

    Old Codger

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:urnwNruSJHA.408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I stopped tinkering after Pa Bear gave his suggestions...<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Why didn't you reply to my post and answer my questions?
    > --
    > ~PA Bear
    >
    > Old Codger (NM) wrote:<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Miracles still happen! After not working for days, and after throwing my
    >> hands in the air in disgust, IE7 and the Update site are speaking again!
    >> I
    >> stopped tinkering after Pa Bear gave his suggestions and they didn't work
    >> and was just waiting for someone to reply with info that would cure the
    >> problem or wait for MS to realize the Update site had a problem and fix
    >> it.
    >> Whatever happened today, it's working again!
    >>
    >> Thanks to those that tried to help and thanks to whomever wherever that
    >> fixed it.
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Windows XP fully updated; IE7.
    >>>
    >>> I can no longer access the Update site:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> I have turned off all firewalls, antivirus, malware, etc. and still
    >>> won't
    >>> work. This happened following the last massive updates of a week or so
    >>> ago.
    >>>
    >>> IE7 will show "Checking if your computer has..." and then freezes. I've
    >>> tried the few suggestions provided but to no avail. Any fresh ideas?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  8. Rob Y.

    Rob Y. Guest

    I'm having the same problem as Old Codger. I go to the same Windows Update
    page and it just freezes at "Checking if your computer has..." This has been
    going on for a month or so. IE is not frozen, just the webpage.

    I have Windows XP Home, SP3 - Just updated from IE7 to IE8 last week. Use
    Norton AV 2009.

    I perfer to go to the Update website to get the updates, rather than click
    the shield in the system tray. I'm still on a dial up ISP (Juno) and like to
    see my download progress.

    I have tried disabling Norton and turned off the firewall. Neither helped.

    Rob Y.

    =====


    "Old Codger (NM)" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Windows XP fully updated; IE7.
    >
    > I can no longer access the Update site:
    >
    >
    > I have turned off all firewalls, antivirus, malware, etc. and still won't
    > work. This happened following the last massive updates of a week or so ago.
    >
    > IE7 will show "Checking if your computer has..." and then freezes. I've
    > tried the few suggestions provided but to no avail. Any fresh ideas?
    >
    > * Cross posted to m.p.w.help_and_support for more possible help
    >
    > Old Codger
    > = = =
    > "Well, the conference met today and appointed a commission to meet
    > tomorrow and appoint a delegation which will eventually appoint a
    > subcommittee to draw up ways and means of finding out what to start with
    > first."
    > -Will Rogers
    > = = =
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  9. Richard

    Richard Guest

    > "Rob Y." <RobY@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > news:6A57ACD5-309C-4916-BEC2-AB4FE0D0D7B4@microsoft.com...
    > I'm having the same problem as Old Codger. I go to the same Windows
    > Update
    > page and it just freezes at "Checking if your computer has..." This has
    > been
    > going on for a month or so. IE is not frozen, just the webpage.
    >
    > I have Windows XP Home, SP3 - Just updated from IE7 to IE8 last week. Use
    > Norton AV 2009.
    >
    > I perfer to go to the Update website to get the updates, rather than click
    > the shield in the system tray. I'm still on a dial up ISP (Juno) and like
    > to
    > see my download progress.
    >
    > I have tried disabling Norton and turned off the firewall. Neither helped.
    >
    > Rob Y.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Hi Rob,

    Patience? Your message is dated 8 Sep 2009, which is the 2nd tuesday of that
    month when updates are released and MILLIONS of people's computer are
    getting updated, and the servers get sluggish. Since you determined that IE
    was not frozen, (by maybe checking Task Manager to see whether it was
    Running, or Not Responding,) then it is not likely that the page itself was
    frozen, but was waiting for the slow "thinking" of the server to complete.
    How many hours did you wait before deciding it was frozen? I usually wait a
    day or two after the 2nd tuesday before going to the update site, and hardly
    ever have to wait more than a half minute. If I recall correctly, when I
    went to the update site for this month's updates, about 8:30 AM Eastern
    Daylight Time, 9 Sep 2009, the "Checking..." thing was the fastest ever -
    maybe 5 seconds. That was with this XP-pro-SP3 machine on dialup. On another
    occasion, when I updated another computer here, XP-home, the "Checking" took
    so long (more than a minute,) I took a snack break, and it was ready when I
    came back much later.

    Patient? (Who me...? [​IMG]
    --Richard

    (P.S. You should never connect to the internet without a firewall. If you
    disable your 3rd party firewall, enable the Windows Firewall. [​IMG]

    Windows Update site:
     
  10. Rob Y.

    Rob Y. Guest

    This doesn't just happen on the 2nd Tuesday. It has been going on for more
    than a month. I suspect that it's some setting in my Internet Options.
    Probably something I switched to correct another problem.

    Rob

    "Richard" wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro--><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > "Rob Y." <RobY@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > news:6A57ACD5-309C-4916-BEC2-AB4FE0D0D7B4@microsoft.com...
    > > I'm having the same problem as Old Codger. I go to the same Windows
    > > Update
    > > page and it just freezes at "Checking if your computer has..." This has
    > > been
    > > going on for a month or so. IE is not frozen, just the webpage.
    > >
    > > I have Windows XP Home, SP3 - Just updated from IE7 to IE8 last week. Use
    > > Norton AV 2009.
    > >
    > > I perfer to go to the Update website to get the updates, rather than click
    > > the shield in the system tray. I'm still on a dial up ISP (Juno) and like
    > > to
    > > see my download progress.
    > >
    > > I have tried disabling Norton and turned off the firewall. Neither helped.
    > >
    > > Rob Y.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Hi Rob,
    >
    > Patience? Your message is dated 8 Sep 2009, which is the 2nd tuesday of that
    > month when updates are released and MILLIONS of people's computer are
    > getting updated, and the servers get sluggish. Since you determined that IE
    > was not frozen, (by maybe checking Task Manager to see whether it was
    > Running, or Not Responding,) then it is not likely that the page itself was
    > frozen, but was waiting for the slow "thinking" of the server to complete.
    > How many hours did you wait before deciding it was frozen? I usually wait a
    > day or two after the 2nd tuesday before going to the update site, and hardly
    > ever have to wait more than a half minute. If I recall correctly, when I
    > went to the update site for this month's updates, about 8:30 AM Eastern
    > Daylight Time, 9 Sep 2009, the "Checking..." thing was the fastest ever -
    > maybe 5 seconds. That was with this XP-pro-SP3 machine on dialup. On another
    > occasion, when I updated another computer here, XP-home, the "Checking" took
    > so long (more than a minute,) I took a snack break, and it was ready when I
    > came back much later.
    >
    > Patient? (Who me...? [​IMG]
    > --Richard
    >
    > (P.S. You should never connect to the internet without a firewall. If you
    > disable your 3rd party firewall, enable the Windows Firewall. [​IMG]
    >
    > Windows Update site:
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     

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