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Unable to do Check Disk Maintenance before windows

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Oly, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. Oly

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    Hey Everyone!

    I'm new to this forum so Hey! and thank you in advance.

    I have a relatively "ok" knowledge of computers but have become stuck on a random issue so need some expert backup.
    Ive literally just bought a Dell XPS 14" Ultra book. Lovely laptop, works great and has this new hybrid 32 gig SSD / 500 gig hard drive, which is accelerated. It also has Intel Rapid start technology, which is great but i have no idea how it works but hey.
    The funny problem.
    I got rid of the pre installed windows 8 and put windows 7 on it. Took ages to get the above mentioned hybrid stuff to work, but hey, was a good challenge.
    Now i like to check disk my C drive every other week for maintenance. I know most if not everyone will know what i mean here, but in case i have got some of the terminology wrong, its the right click on the drive, properties, tools and check disk. I always select both options and schedule it to be done before windows.

    When i do this and reboot, it starts to tell me its doing it with the normal 10 second countdown, then stops with 8 seconds to go and says "Check disk has been canceled"
    I have no idea whats happening, i'm not leaning on the keys but its really frustrating. I've tried disabling the Intel rapid start technology in the bios. but no joy.
    How random!!
    Any ideas from the pros out there?

    Thanks again.

    Oly
     
    Oly, Oct 3, 2013
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  3. starbuck

    starbuck Rest In Peace Pete Administrator

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    Hi Oly and welcome to CHF

    Seems this is a known problem on Win7...... especially on laptops.
    Take a look here:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/975778/en-us

    Also:
    Have you installed SP1 yet?
    This fix is included in SP1.
     
    starbuck, Oct 3, 2013
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  4. Oly

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    Hey starbuck,

    I see i've come to the right place :)
    I definitely have SP1, but haven't installed the hotfix. I shall try that now.
    Thank you for your quick reply and awesome advice.
     
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  5. Oly

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    Alas, i'm back and its a no go. After extracting the software, it says "this update is not applicable to your computer" lol!
     
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  6. starbuck

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    Did you select the correct bit type for your system? (32bit or 64bit)

    Have you tried running Check Disc from a command prompt?

    If you haven't and need this explaining, we can explain this to you.
    If you wanted to check the disc for errors and fix any found.... you would have to run Check Disc from the lowest level.
    Using command prompt from the recovery options
     
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  7. Oly

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    Hey Starbuck,
    thanks again for your reply.
    I did double check i had done the right type for the system.

    I have never done it in dos before. Is it as effective as doing it pre windows boot (i have no idea?)
    run cmd as an administrator? chkdsk? at a guess?
     
    Oly, Oct 3, 2013
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  8. starbuck

    starbuck Rest In Peace Pete Administrator

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    Running the command prompt as an administrator (from the system) is known as using an Elevated Command Prompt.
    In your case i think we would be better running the command prompt from the Windows 7 System Recovery Environment.
    There are 2 commands we can use:
    chkdsk C:
    or
    chkdsk /f C:
    the gaps are meant to be there in the commands.
    the first will just check the drive for errors, the second will check the drive and try to repair it if needed.

    To use the Windows 7 System Recovery Environment you will need your Win7 installation disc to boot from.

    In order to access the Windows 7 System Recovery Command Prompt you first need to boot your computer off of the Windows 7 DVD by inserting it into your DVD player and turning your computer on. Your computer will start and you should see the BIOS listing the hardware on your computer as well as other information.
    When that information has been cleared, your computer will see that a bootable DVD is inserted.
    As you want to boot the computer from the Windows 7 DVD, you need to press a key on your keyboard, and any key will do.
    At this screen you should configure the Language to install, Time and currency format, and Keyboard or input method options so that they are set correctly for your location and language.
    When done, please press the Next button.
    You will now be at the main Windows 7 setup screen where you would normally install Windows 7 on to your computer.
    You should now click on the Repair your computer option, which will bring you to a new screen where the repair process will look for all Windows 7 installations on your computer.
    Click Next
    When done you will be presented with the System Recovery Options dialog box.
    On the System Recovery Options menu you will get the following options:
    Startup Repair
    System Restore
    Windows Complete PC Restore
    Windows Memory Diagnostic Tool
    Command Prompt

    Select Command Prompt
    In the command window type in:
    chkdsk C:
    or
    chkdsk /f C:
    and press the Enter key on your keyboard

    When you are finished using the Command Prompt you can exit it by typing exit and then pressing the Enter key on your keyboard.
    The command prompt will close and you will now be back at the list of available repair tools, where you can reboot your computer.

    If you need it, there are detailed instructions on using the Windows 7 System Recovery Environment in the link below........
    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/windows-7-recovery-environment-command-prompt/

    Hope this helps
     
    starbuck, Oct 5, 2013
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  9. Oly

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    Hey Starbuck, thank you so much for your detailed reply. I appreciate your time.
    im doing that in the next 10 minutes. Will i have to do this procedure every time i want to check
    disk the laptop though?
     
    Oly, Oct 6, 2013
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  10. starbuck

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    This is basically a 'try and see' thing.
    Obviously the chkdsk won't run normally, so we want to find out if it will run ok this way.
    If it does and we can't find a solution to the main problem..... you may have to run it like this.
    But in all honesty, you shouldn't need to run it that often.
    I only ever run mine if there seems to be an obvious problem.
     
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    In actual fact from a hard ware angle, Checkdisk should only be run when there are problems or genuine need to do so.
    Continuously running it on a fortnightly basis is contributing to wear and tear of the hard drive search head bearing and other moving parts. That is due to the head continuously moving around doing the search for bad sectors or other problems, when there are no problems to be found.
    Also, considering that this is a hybrid drive with a small part of it being SSD, it may well be the SSD part causing the checkdisk to fail, I seem to remember seeing something about checkdisk being not needed or even a good thing for SSD drives. Though can be corrected on that part as it was some time since and I may be wrong.

    Nev.
     
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  12. DSTM (Dougie)

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    Hybrid or Normal SSD's should never have CHKDSK run on them or ever defragged.
    I have 5 SSD's and I screwed one by defragging it.
     
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  13. Oly

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    Hey everyone, thank you for your replies.
    Blimey, didn't know half of the information you guys have told me. Epic.
    So only check disk if I really need too, if at all

    Defragmentation wise, surely the 500 gig hard drive will need defraging once in a while?
    The ssd is not accessible through the normal ways, not even in the computer management section. So you can't scan or defrag it .
     
    Oly, Oct 6, 2013
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