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sysprep and 2008 activation

Discussion in 'Windows Home Server' started by Joey, Sep 6, 2009.

  1. Joey

    Joey Guest

    Why am I getting a The product key you typed in already in use for 2008?
    This always worked for new machines we setup
     
    Joey, Sep 6, 2009
    #1
  3. Dusko Savatovic

    Dusko Savatovic Guest

    If you are talking about Volume License Keys (VLK), then these keys have a
    certain finite number of activations.

    You can see a number of remaining activations of a VLK by using a tool VAMT
    (Volume Activation Management Tool).

    "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    news:uDypzWzLKHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why am I getting a The product key you typed in already in use for 2008?
    > This always worked for new machines we setup
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Dusko Savatovic, Sep 6, 2009
    #2
  4. Ace Fekay [MCT]

    Ace Fekay [MCT] Guest

    "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    news:uDypzWzLKHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Why am I getting a The product key you typed in already in use for 2008?
    > This always worked for new machines we setup
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Do you have a VL copy of Windows 2008, or a retail copy of Windows 2008? If
    VL, as Dusko suggested, how many licenses were provided with your agreement?
    Has it reached the limit?


    --
    Ace

    This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
    confers no rights.

    Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among
    responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.

    Ace Fekay, MCT, MCTS Exchange, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging
    Microsoft Certified Trainer

    For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
    for regional support phone numbers.
     
    Ace Fekay [MCT], Sep 6, 2009
    #3
  5. Joey

    Joey Guest

    It says

    The product key you entered is not supported for use by this ciopy of VAMT.

    I have used this key and activated 2008 for a few times. I am not sure how
    many times but now I cannot activate any more


    "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
    news:OFDw5E3LKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    > news:uDypzWzLKHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Why am I getting a The product key you typed in already in use for 2008?
    >> This always worked for new machines we setup
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Do you have a VL copy of Windows 2008, or a retail copy of Windows 2008?
    > If VL, as Dusko suggested, how many licenses were provided with your
    > agreement? Has it reached the limit?
    >
    >
    > --
    > Ace
    >
    > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
    > confers no rights.
    >
    > Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
    > among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
    > resolution.
    >
    > Ace Fekay, MCT, MCTS Exchange, MCSE, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging
    > Microsoft Certified Trainer
    >
    > For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
    > for regional support phone numbers. <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Joey, Sep 8, 2009
    #4
  6. Ace Fekay [MCT]

    Ace Fekay [MCT] Guest

    "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    news:uWXZ6gKMKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > It says
    >
    > The product key you entered is not supported for use by this ciopy of
    > VAMT.
    >
    > I have used this key and activated 2008 for a few times. I am not sure how
    > many times but now I cannot activate any more
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    That message sounds like you tried to use a retail key. However, I
    understand you are saying you didn't.

    See if this thread helps.


    Ace
     
    Ace Fekay [MCT], Sep 8, 2009
    #5
  7. Joey

    Joey Guest

    ok I called MS and was able to activate it by phone. But why was it not
    working when I tried to

    type in slmgr -ato?

    I basically have a image that I run sysprep with. After the new machine
    boots up, the activation resets itself. So I wanted it to automatically
    register itself by putting slmgr.vbs -ato into SetupComplete.cmd in
    c:\windows\setup\scripts.

    But fails. What do I have to do now? I dont want to call ms for activation
    for any new 2008 machine I setup

    "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
    news:%23OxXsGLMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    > news:uWXZ6gKMKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> It says
    >>
    >> The product key you entered is not supported for use by this ciopy of
    >> VAMT.
    >>
    >> I have used this key and activated 2008 for a few times. I am not sure
    >> how many times but now I cannot activate any more
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > That message sounds like you tried to use a retail key. However, I
    > understand you are saying you didn't.
    >
    > See if this thread helps.
    >
    >
    > Ace
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Joey, Sep 8, 2009
    #6
  8. Dusko Savatovic

    Dusko Savatovic Guest

    You must purchase, or rather subscribe toVL Key and VL Media. If you are
    already a VL customer, your VLK and VLM is available on the VL web site.

    Sysprep and VAMT only work correctly with volume license media. The same
    applies to Office suite. If you want to do admin install of Office, you need
    Volume license media and matching keys.


    "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    news:eO1WoZLMKHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > ok I called MS and was able to activate it by phone. But why was it not
    > working when I tried to
    >
    > type in slmgr -ato?
    >
    > I basically have a image that I run sysprep with. After the new machine
    > boots up, the activation resets itself. So I wanted it to automatically
    > register itself by putting slmgr.vbs -ato into SetupComplete.cmd in
    > c:windowssetupscripts.
    >
    > But fails. What do I have to do now? I dont want to call ms for activation
    > for any new 2008 machine I setup
    >
    > "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
    > news:%23OxXsGLMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    >> news:uWXZ6gKMKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> It says
    >>>
    >>> The product key you entered is not supported for use by this ciopy of
    >>> VAMT.
    >>>
    >>> I have used this key and activated 2008 for a few times. I am not sure
    >>> how many times but now I cannot activate any more
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >> That message sounds like you tried to use a retail key. However, I
    >> understand you are saying you didn't.
    >>
    >> See if this thread helps.
    >>
    >>
    >> Ace
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Dusko Savatovic, Sep 8, 2009
    #7
  9. Joey

    Joey Guest

    I am pretty sure we are VL customer. But how do I access it? I signed in
    with my .net account and does not work. Do I have to register with my
    company domain email address?
    "Dusko Savatovic" <savatovic@nospam.gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:er$XouMMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > You must purchase, or rather subscribe toVL Key and VL Media. If you are
    > already a VL customer, your VLK and VLM is available on the VL web site.
    >
    > Sysprep and VAMT only work correctly with volume license media. The same
    > applies to Office suite. If you want to do admin install of Office, you
    > need Volume license media and matching keys.
    >
    >
    > "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    > news:eO1WoZLMKHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> ok I called MS and was able to activate it by phone. But why was it not
    >> working when I tried to
    >>
    >> type in slmgr -ato?
    >>
    >> I basically have a image that I run sysprep with. After the new machine
    >> boots up, the activation resets itself. So I wanted it to automatically
    >> register itself by putting slmgr.vbs -ato into SetupComplete.cmd in
    >> c:windowssetupscripts.
    >>
    >> But fails. What do I have to do now? I dont want to call ms for
    >> activation for any new 2008 machine I setup
    >>
    >> "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
    >> news:%23OxXsGLMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:uWXZ6gKMKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >>>> It says
    >>>>
    >>>> The product key you entered is not supported for use by this ciopy of
    >>>> VAMT.
    >>>>
    >>>> I have used this key and activated 2008 for a few times. I am not sure
    >>>> how many times but now I cannot activate any more
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> That message sounds like you tried to use a retail key. However, I
    >>> understand you are saying you didn't.
    >>>
    >>> See if this thread helps.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Ace
    >>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Joey, Sep 8, 2009
    #8
  10. Ace Fekay [MCT]

    Ace Fekay [MCT] Guest

    "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    news:ebNyzvNMKHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I am pretty sure we are VL customer. But how do I access it? I signed in
    >with my .net account and does not work. Do I have to register with my
    >company domain email address?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    When you originally purchased the VL license from your channel distributor
    (TechData, Ingram, Softmart, etc, and not from a retail store), you should
    have got some sort of info regarding the license, and other products that
    come with the license. For example, when you purchase Office 2007 VL, you
    get a whole list of products that come along with the purchase, including
    BCM and a whole copy of Office 2003 Pro.

    I'm not sure what site you tried to logon to, but you would have to logon to
    the following site to view the info.


    If your credentials don't work, then you would have to contact your
    distributor who sold it to you. If in fact you do have a VL license, but
    never logged on to download the VL media, and you are trying to do this with
    retail media, then I can understand what is going on, and the retail media
    activation count has been exhausted (5 I think?). VL keys won't work with
    retail, OEM, Technet, MSDN or any other media.

    Ace
     
    Ace Fekay [MCT], Sep 8, 2009
    #9
  11. Joey

    Joey Guest

    I only have a Key of 2008 that my manager forwarded to me. Are you saying
    that in addtion to just having a key, I need to register this key online and
    make it a VL Key? So by default every key without registering is a retail
    key? Yes looks like I activated 5 times and stopped working


    "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote in message
    news:%23sxMR5NMKHA.5072@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    > news:ebNyzvNMKHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>I am pretty sure we are VL customer. But how do I access it? I signed in
    >>with my .net account and does not work. Do I have to register with my
    >>company domain email address?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > When you originally purchased the VL license from your channel distributor
    > (TechData, Ingram, Softmart, etc, and not from a retail store), you should
    > have got some sort of info regarding the license, and other products that
    > come with the license. For example, when you purchase Office 2007 VL, you
    > get a whole list of products that come along with the purchase, including
    > BCM and a whole copy of Office 2003 Pro.
    >
    > I'm not sure what site you tried to logon to, but you would have to logon
    > to the following site to view the info.
    >
    >
    > If your credentials don't work, then you would have to contact your
    > distributor who sold it to you. If in fact you do have a VL license, but
    > never logged on to download the VL media, and you are trying to do this
    > with retail media, then I can understand what is going on, and the retail
    > media activation count has been exhausted (5 I think?). VL keys won't work
    > with retail, OEM, Technet, MSDN or any other media.
    >
    > Ace
    >
    >
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Joey, Sep 8, 2009
    #10
  12. Ace Fekay [MCT]

    Ace Fekay [MCT] Guest

    "Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    news:OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I only have a Key of 2008 that my manager forwarded to me. Are you saying
    >that in addtion to just having a key, I need to register this key online
    >and make it a VL Key? So by default every key without registering is a
    >retail key? Yes looks like I activated 5 times and stopped working
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    No, that's not what I'm saying. You can't take any key and make it a VL. A
    retail key stops after 5 activations. VLs keep going based on your
    agreement.

    You cannot make a retail key into a VL. Retail keys are purchased as a
    'boxed' copy, you know, the key that's printed on the box or CD cover.
    That's retail. VL is a whole different process, which is purchased from a
    channel distributor/partner, such as the places I previously mentioned. VL
    cannot be purchased at CompUSA, BestBuy, Circuit City, Staples, etc or any
    retail store. VLs don't even come in a box!

    I'm saying is that when you purchase a VL license, Microsoft directly
    supplies the channel partner information regarding the new agreement, and
    the channel partner than provides that info so you can logon to the eOpen
    site to view your license information, the VL key, and download the
    associated media. That's where it comes from.

    To logon, you would need to get the necessary info from your distributor,
    such as the agreement ID and some other info. I can't remember exactly what
    else was needed since I helped a customer purchase an Office 2007 VL license
    back in Jan or Feb, but the distributor let us have the ID info, and we used
    that to initialize an account at eOpen, which then we were able to view and
    copy the VL Keys, and then clicked on the download section to download the
    media.

    So you are saying your manager fowarded you a key? Where did he get the key?
    From the back of a box or CD cover? What media (CD) are you using? Did the
    CD come out of a box or part of an OEM packaged (shipped with a server, such
    as from Dell, HP, etc)?

    Ace
     
    Ace Fekay [MCT], Sep 8, 2009
    #11
  13. Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    Darrell Gorter[MSFT] Guest

    Hello,
    Let's start by checking what type of key is installed on the system.
    Open an elevated CMD prompt
    Run slmgr /dlv
    what are the top three lines, from the output
    should look something like this:
    Software licensing service version: 6.0.6002.18005
    Name: Windows™ Vista, Enterprise edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Vista, VOLUME_KMSCLIENT channel

    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    --------------------
    | >From: "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
    | >References: <uDypzWzLKHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    <OFDw5E3LKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    <uWXZ6gKMKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
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    <#sxMR5NMKHA.5072@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
    <OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >In-Reply-To: <OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >Subject: Re: sysprep and 2008 activation
    | >Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:30:42 -0400
    | >Lines: 41
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    | > format=flowed;
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    | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000
    | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049
    | >Message-ID: <#aBsm0OMKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.general
    | >NNTP-Posting-Host: smtp.bandwidthpros.com 72.94.181.34
    | >Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
    | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
    microsoft.public.windows.server.general:60863
    | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.general
    | >
    | >"Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    | >news:OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    | >>I only have a Key of 2008 that my manager forwarded to me. Are you
    saying
    | >>that in addtion to just having a key, I need to register this key
    online
    | >>and make it a VL Key? So by default every key without registering is a
    | >>retail key? Yes looks like I activated 5 times and stopped working
    | >>
    | >
    | >
    | >No, that's not what I'm saying. You can't take any key and make it a VL.
    A
    | >retail key stops after 5 activations. VLs keep going based on your
    | >agreement.
    | >
    | >You cannot make a retail key into a VL. Retail keys are purchased as a
    | >'boxed' copy, you know, the key that's printed on the box or CD cover.
    | >That's retail. VL is a whole different process, which is purchased from
    a
    | >channel distributor/partner, such as the places I previously mentioned.
    VL
    | >cannot be purchased at CompUSA, BestBuy, Circuit City, Staples, etc or
    any
    | >retail store. VLs don't even come in a box!
    | >
    | >I'm saying is that when you purchase a VL license, Microsoft directly
    | >supplies the channel partner information regarding the new agreement,
    and
    | >the channel partner than provides that info so you can logon to the
    eOpen
    | >site to view your license information, the VL key, and download the
    | >associated media. That's where it comes from.
    | >
    | >To logon, you would need to get the necessary info from your
    distributor,
    | >such as the agreement ID and some other info. I can't remember exactly
    what
    | >else was needed since I helped a customer purchase an Office 2007 VL
    license
    | >back in Jan or Feb, but the distributor let us have the ID info, and we
    used
    | >that to initialize an account at eOpen, which then we were able to view
    and
    | >copy the VL Keys, and then clicked on the download section to download
    the
    | >media.
    | >
    | >So you are saying your manager fowarded you a key? Where did he get the
    key?
    | >From the back of a box or CD cover? What media (CD) are you using? Did
    the
    | >CD come out of a box or part of an OEM packaged (shipped with a server,
    such
    | >as from Dell, HP, etc)?
    | >
    | >Ace
    | >
    | >
     
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT], Sep 9, 2009
    #12
  14. Joey

    Joey Guest

    This is what I get

    Software licensing service version: 6.0.6001.18000
    Name: Windows Server®, ServerStandard edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows Server®, VOLUME_KMS_B
    channel

    This is activated by phone now.

    But, like I mentioned before, any new machines I deploy from a template
    (sysprepped) will need a reactivation

    a startup command slmgr -ato fails.




    ""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:iCOzt9WMKHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hello,
    > Let's start by checking what type of key is installed on the system.
    > Open an elevated CMD prompt
    > Run slmgr /dlv
    > what are the top three lines, from the output
    > should look something like this:
    > Software licensing service version: 6.0.6002.18005
    > Name: Windows™ Vista, Enterprise edition
    > Description: Windows Operating System - Vista, VOLUME_KMSCLIENT channel
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    >
    > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    > --------------------
    > | >From: "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
    > | >References: <uDypzWzLKHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    > <OFDw5E3LKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    > <uWXZ6gKMKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
    > <#OxXsGLMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    > <eO1WoZLMKHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
    > <er$XouMMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    > <ebNyzvNMKHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
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    > <OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    > | >In-Reply-To: <OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    > | >Subject: Re: sysprep and 2008 activation
    > | >Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:30:42 -0400
    > | >Lines: 41
    > | >MIME-Version: 1.0
    > | >Content-Type: text/plain;
    > | > format=flowed;
    > | > charset="Windows-1252";
    > | > reply-type=response
    > | >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    > | >X-Priority: 3
    > | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    > | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000
    > | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049
    > | >Message-ID: <#aBsm0OMKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    > | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.general
    > | >NNTP-Posting-Host: smtp.bandwidthpros.com 72.94.181.34
    > | >Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
    > | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
    > microsoft.public.windows.server.general:60863
    > | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.general
    > | >
    > | >"Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    > | >news:OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > | >>I only have a Key of 2008 that my manager forwarded to me. Are you
    > saying
    > | >>that in addtion to just having a key, I need to register this key
    > online
    > | >>and make it a VL Key? So by default every key without registering is a
    > | >>retail key? Yes looks like I activated 5 times and stopped working
    > | >>
    > | >
    > | >
    > | >No, that's not what I'm saying. You can't take any key and make it a
    > VL.
    > A
    > | >retail key stops after 5 activations. VLs keep going based on your
    > | >agreement.
    > | >
    > | >You cannot make a retail key into a VL. Retail keys are purchased as a
    > | >'boxed' copy, you know, the key that's printed on the box or CD cover.
    > | >That's retail. VL is a whole different process, which is purchased from
    > a
    > | >channel distributor/partner, such as the places I previously mentioned.
    > VL
    > | >cannot be purchased at CompUSA, BestBuy, Circuit City, Staples, etc or
    > any
    > | >retail store. VLs don't even come in a box!
    > | >
    > | >I'm saying is that when you purchase a VL license, Microsoft directly
    > | >supplies the channel partner information regarding the new agreement,
    > and
    > | >the channel partner than provides that info so you can logon to the
    > eOpen
    > | >site to view your license information, the VL key, and download the
    > | >associated media. That's where it comes from.
    > | >
    > | >To logon, you would need to get the necessary info from your
    > distributor,
    > | >such as the agreement ID and some other info. I can't remember exactly
    > what
    > | >else was needed since I helped a customer purchase an Office 2007 VL
    > license
    > | >back in Jan or Feb, but the distributor let us have the ID info, and we
    > used
    > | >that to initialize an account at eOpen, which then we were able to view
    > and
    > | >copy the VL Keys, and then clicked on the download section to download
    > the
    > | >media.
    > | >
    > | >So you are saying your manager fowarded you a key? Where did he get the
    > key?
    > | >From the back of a box or CD cover? What media (CD) are you using? Did
    > the
    > | >CD come out of a box or part of an OEM packaged (shipped with a server,
    > such
    > | >as from Dell, HP, etc)?
    > | >
    > | >Ace
    > | >
    > | >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Joey, Sep 12, 2009
    #13
  15. Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    Darrell Gorter[MSFT] Guest

    Hello Joey,
    You have installed a KMS host key on the machine. So every machine is
    attempting to become a KMS host.
    So by default you get 6 Activations with a KMS hsot key.

    So the question becomes are you intending on using KMS as your solution or
    are you intending on using MAK keys are your solution.
    With a KMS host, if you do not change the setup key which installs by
    default, your clients will attempt to locate a KMS host and start building
    the count so they can activate.
    MAK keys have multiple activations on them in accordance to your licensing
    agreement, you would need to change to a MAK key if you want to use this
    and activate via the MS activation servers
    Thanks,
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT]

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
    --------------------
    | >From: "Joey" <joey@joey.com>
    | >References: <uDypzWzLKHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    <OFDw5E3LKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    <uWXZ6gKMKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
    <#OxXsGLMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    <eO1WoZLMKHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
    <er$XouMMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    <ebNyzvNMKHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
    <#sxMR5NMKHA.5072@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
    <OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    <#aBsm0OMKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    <iCOzt9WMKHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl>
    | >Subject: Re: sysprep and 2008 activation
    | >Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:02:51 -0700
    | >Lines: 129
    | >X-Priority: 3
    | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
    | >X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
    | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350
    | >Message-ID: <#bx1$M9MKHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
    | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.general
    | >NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.112.196.4
    | >Path: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
    | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
    microsoft.public.windows.server.general:60988
    | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.general
    | >
    | >This is what I get
    | >
    | >Software licensing service version: 6.0.6001.18000
    | >Name: Windows Server®, ServerStandard edition
    | >Description: Windows Operating System - Windows Server®, VOLUME_KMS_B
    | >channel
    | >
    | >This is activated by phone now.
    | >
    | >But, like I mentioned before, any new machines I deploy from a template
    | >(sysprepped) will need a reactivation
    | >
    | >a startup command slmgr -ato fails.
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
    message
    | >news:iCOzt9WMKHA.2552@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
    | >> Hello,
    | >> Let's start by checking what type of key is installed on the system.
    | >> Open an elevated CMD prompt
    | >> Run slmgr /dlv
    | >> what are the top three lines, from the output
    | >> should look something like this:
    | >> Software licensing service version: 6.0.6002.18005
    | >> Name: Windows™ Vista, Enterprise edition
    | >> Description: Windows Operating System - Vista, VOLUME_KMSCLIENT channel
    | >>
    | >> Thanks,
    | >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
    | >>
    | >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
    rights
    | >> --------------------
    | >> | >From: "Ace Fekay [MCT]" <aceman@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org>
    | >> | >References: <uDypzWzLKHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >> <OFDw5E3LKHA.3948@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >> <uWXZ6gKMKHA.4964@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
    | >> <#OxXsGLMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >> <eO1WoZLMKHA.1452@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
    | >> <er$XouMMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >> <ebNyzvNMKHA.3588@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
    | >> <#sxMR5NMKHA.5072@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>
    | >> <OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >> | >In-Reply-To: <OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >> | >Subject: Re: sysprep and 2008 activation
    | >> | >Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 21:30:42 -0400
    | >> | >Lines: 41
    | >> | >MIME-Version: 1.0
    | >> | >Content-Type: text/plain;
    | >> | > format=flowed;
    | >> | > charset="Windows-1252";
    | >> | > reply-type=response
    | >> | >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    | >> | >X-Priority: 3
    | >> | >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
    | >> | >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000
    | >> | >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049
    | >> | >Message-ID: <#aBsm0OMKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>
    | >> | >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.general
    | >> | >NNTP-Posting-Host: smtp.bandwidthpros.com 72.94.181.34
    | >> | >Path:
    TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
    | >> | >Xref: TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl
    | >> microsoft.public.windows.server.general:60863
    | >> | >X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.general
    | >> | >
    | >> | >"Joey" <joey@joey.com> wrote in message
    | >> | >news:OtV0lBOMKHA.1280@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    | >> | >>I only have a Key of 2008 that my manager forwarded to me. Are you
    | >> saying
    | >> | >>that in addtion to just having a key, I need to register this key
    | >> online
    | >> | >>and make it a VL Key? So by default every key without registering
    is a
    | >> | >>retail key? Yes looks like I activated 5 times and stopped working
    | >> | >>
    | >> | >
    | >> | >
    | >> | >No, that's not what I'm saying. You can't take any key and make it
    a
    | >> VL.
    | >> A
    | >> | >retail key stops after 5 activations. VLs keep going based on your
    | >> | >agreement.
    | >> | >
    | >> | >You cannot make a retail key into a VL. Retail keys are purchased
    as a
    | >> | >'boxed' copy, you know, the key that's printed on the box or CD
    cover.
    | >> | >That's retail. VL is a whole different process, which is purchased
    from
    | >> a
    | >> | >channel distributor/partner, such as the places I previously
    mentioned.
    | >> VL
    | >> | >cannot be purchased at CompUSA, BestBuy, Circuit City, Staples, etc
    or
    | >> any
    | >> | >retail store. VLs don't even come in a box!
    | >> | >
    | >> | >I'm saying is that when you purchase a VL license, Microsoft
    directly
    | >> | >supplies the channel partner information regarding the new
    agreement,
    | >> and
    | >> | >the channel partner than provides that info so you can logon to the
    | >> eOpen
    | >> | >site to view your license information, the VL key, and download the
    | >> | >associated media. That's where it comes from.
    | >> | >
    | >> | >To logon, you would need to get the necessary info from your
    | >> distributor,
    | >> | >such as the agreement ID and some other info. I can't remember
    exactly
    | >> what
    | >> | >else was needed since I helped a customer purchase an Office 2007 VL
    | >> license
    | >> | >back in Jan or Feb, but the distributor let us have the ID info,
    and we
    | >> used
    | >> | >that to initialize an account at eOpen, which then we were able to
    view
    | >> and
    | >> | >copy the VL Keys, and then clicked on the download section to
    download
    | >> the
    | >> | >media.
    | >> | >
    | >> | >So you are saying your manager fowarded you a key? Where did he get
    the
    | >> key?
    | >> | >From the back of a box or CD cover? What media (CD) are you using?
    Did
    | >> the
    | >> | >CD come out of a box or part of an OEM packaged (shipped with a
    server,
    | >> such
    | >> | >as from Dell, HP, etc)?
    | >> | >
    | >> | >Ace
    | >> | >
    | >> | >
    | >>
    | >
    | >
    | >
     
    Darrell Gorter[MSFT], Sep 15, 2009
    #14

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