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static IP address needed on an AOL account?

Discussion in 'Windows Home Server' started by lenny109, Sep 29, 2009.

  1. lenny109

    lenny109 Guest

    Hi,
    AOL in the UK don't offer static IP address's. How can I have a static IP
    address on my broadband connection with AOL? I want the static IP to go to
    my Draytek Router so that I can remotely log in to the network using the
    routers vpn system.
    Cheers
    Lenny
     
  2. David

    David Guest

    I am not sure with AOL as I thought AOL changed your IP very quickly (though
    that could be their proxy system), but with many other dynamic IP providers,
    you can have a dynamic DNS set up.

    The one I use is dyndns.org but there are many others.

    Basically, you choose a sub-domain and then configure your router to use
    that, so for example, you could have lenny.dyndns.org (or any other higher
    level domain name they own, such as gotdns.org)

    That way, you just simply connect to your chosen domain name, e.g.
    lenny.dyndns.org

    Have a look on google for dynamic dns. You will probably find many.

    --
    Best regards,
    Dave Colliver.

    ~~
    - Local franchises available
    "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    news:NcKdnY0ujPkRIlzXnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hi,
    > AOL in the UK don't offer static IP address's. How can I have a static IP
    > address on my broadband connection with AOL? I want the static IP to go to
    > my Draytek Router so that I can remotely log in to the network using the
    > routers vpn system.
    > Cheers
    > Lenny
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  3. lenny109

    lenny109 Guest

    Hi,
    Yes, I have used the same one but you need to put the software on the
    computer for it to link to. I am trying to get the ip to point to the router
    only so I can have access across the LAN.

    "David" <david.colliver.NEWS@revilloc.REMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
    news:%23ZmD97NQKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > I am not sure with AOL as I thought AOL changed your IP very quickly
    > (though that could be their proxy system), but with many other dynamic IP
    > providers, you can have a dynamic DNS set up.
    >
    > The one I use is dyndns.org but there are many others.
    >
    > Basically, you choose a sub-domain and then configure your router to use
    > that, so for example, you could have lenny.dyndns.org (or any other higher
    > level domain name they own, such as gotdns.org)
    >
    > That way, you just simply connect to your chosen domain name, e.g.
    > lenny.dyndns.org
    >
    > Have a look on google for dynamic dns. You will probably find many.
    >
    > --
    > Best regards,
    > Dave Colliver.
    >
    > ~~
    >
    - Local franchises available
    > "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    > news:NcKdnY0ujPkRIlzXnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Hi,
    >> AOL in the UK don't offer static IP address's. How can I have a static IP
    >> address on my broadband connection with AOL? I want the static IP to go
    >> to my Draytek Router so that I can remotely log in to the network using
    >> the routers vpn system.
    >> Cheers
    >> Lenny
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  4. "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    news:L5SdnWqJzZ_SflzXnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hi,
    > Yes, I have used the same one but you need to put the software on the
    > computer for it to link to. I am trying to get the ip to point to the
    > router only so I can have access across the LAN.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Many ADSL routers/cable modems have an inbuilt function to announce their
    current external IP address to services such as DynDNS.
     
  5. lenny109

    lenny109 Guest

    I have a Draytek 2820n Router - Anybody had dealings with this or other
    router and know if it can do such a thing? I have looked but it isn't
    obvious.

    "Pegasus [MVP]" <news@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:u9wKGHPQKHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    >
    > "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    > news:L5SdnWqJzZ_SflzXnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Hi,
    >> Yes, I have used the same one but you need to put the software on the
    >> computer for it to link to. I am trying to get the ip to point to the
    >> router only so I can have access across the LAN.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > Many ADSL routers/cable modems have an inbuilt function to announce their
    > current external IP address to services such as DynDNS.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  6. David

    David Guest

    My router offers this. I am not sure of your router, but lookup your router
    name with dyndns on google to see if it helps.

    I have a DDNS page in my router configuration that I enter the details. I
    also had a similar page in my previous router as well.

    --
    Best regards,
    Dave Colliver.

    ~~
    - Local franchises available


    "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    news:L5SdnWqJzZ_SflzXnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hi,
    > Yes, I have used the same one but you need to put the software on the
    > computer for it to link to. I am trying to get the ip to point to the
    > router only so I can have access across the LAN.
    >
    > "David" <david.colliver.NEWS@revilloc.REMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
    > news:%23ZmD97NQKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> I am not sure with AOL as I thought AOL changed your IP very quickly
    >> (though that could be their proxy system), but with many other dynamic IP
    >> providers, you can have a dynamic DNS set up.
    >>
    >> The one I use is dyndns.org but there are many others.
    >>
    >> Basically, you choose a sub-domain and then configure your router to use
    >> that, so for example, you could have lenny.dyndns.org (or any other
    >> higher level domain name they own, such as gotdns.org)
    >>
    >> That way, you just simply connect to your chosen domain name, e.g.
    >> lenny.dyndns.org
    >>
    >> Have a look on google for dynamic dns. You will probably find many.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Best regards,
    >> Dave Colliver.
    >>

    >> ~~
    >>
    - Local franchises available
    >> "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    >> news:NcKdnY0ujPkRIlzXnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Hi,
    >>> AOL in the UK don't offer static IP address's. How can I have a static
    >>> IP address on my broadband connection with AOL? I want the static IP to
    >>> go to my Draytek Router so that I can remotely log in to the network
    >>> using the routers vpn system.
    >>> Cheers
    >>> Lenny
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  7. smlunatick

    smlunatick Guest

    On Sep 29, 12:19 pm, "lenny109" <le...@thetakeout.com> wrote:<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I have a Draytek 2820n Router - Anybody had dealings with this or other
    > router and know if it can do such a thing? I have looked but it isn't
    > obvious.
    >
    > "Pegasus [MVP]" <n...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
    >
    > news:u9wKGHPQKHA.3908@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > "lenny109" <le...@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    > >news:L5SdnWqJzZ_SflzXnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    > >> Hi,
    > >> Yes, I have used the same one but you need to put the software on the
    > >> computer for it to link to. I am trying to get the ip to point to the
    > >> router only so I can have access across the LAN.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    > > Many ADSL routers/cable modems have an inbuilt function to announce their
    > > current external IP address to services such as DynDNS.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    If the router does not have a Dynamic DNS page, you can install a
    small application which will update your dynamic DNS service with your
    Internet (WAN) ip address.
     
  8. Bernd

    Bernd Guest

    -------- Original-Nachricht --------
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hi,
    > Yes, I have used the same one but you need to put the software on the
    > computer for it to link to. I am trying to get the ip to point to the router
    > only so I can have access across the LAN.
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    David was right. The purpose of the dyndns client on any computer behind
    the router is to update the ROUTERs public ip address.
    What's remaining is port forwarding for VPN (port 1723).

    Bernd
     
  9. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Guest

    lenny109 wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > AOL in the UK don't offer static IP address's. How can I have a static IP
    > address on my broadband connection with AOL? I want the static IP to go to
    > my Draytek Router so that I can remotely log in to the network using the
    > routers vpn system.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You included the microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general newsgroup.
    How is this an issue with any web browser?

    AOL doesn't give you a static IP address. You want AOL to give you a
    static IP address. See the illogic in your question? You already knew
    the answer. That it isn't an answer you like doesn't change that it is
    their answer. If you want AOL to give you a static IP address, you'll
    probably have to go beyond a personal account and pay for it. So have
    you called AOL to inquire about the additional charge to upgrade away
    from a personal-use account to a business account that gives you a
    static IP address?

    Why do you need a static IP address to find your host from the outside?
    You can continue using a dynamically assigned IP address and use that to
    connect to your host (or WAN-side of your router). The problem is
    knowing and remembering what is your current dynamic IP address. You
    can use DynDNS or No-IP to locate your host. You run an IP updater
    client on your host that reports your current IP address to your DynDNS
    account. You give your host/router a hostname in your DynDNS account.
    When you use <yourhost>.dyndns.com for your host, their nameserver does
    the lookup to find what your host last reported as its current IP
    address and returns that IP address to you. So you use DynDNS with an
    IP *name* (instead of an IP address) to find your host. It will be
    easier to remember an IP name than an IP address, even for a static IP
    address.

    While some routers have built-in clients to report their WAN-side IP
    address to some DNS lookup services, like DynDNS, they don't often work
    well. For example, free DynDNS accounts require that you access them
    within a 28-day interval to prevent your account from expiring. Their
    IP updater client will update long before that (it can be configured but
    don't go too short since they consider that abuse). Routers often only
    update your DynDNS account *if* there has been a change in their
    WAN-side IP address. If you have a broadband connection, IP leases
    expires maybe after 3 days but they remain allocated until your
    host/router unbinds from that IP address. Expiration doesn't mean
    immediate termination. It just means that IP address is *eligible* for
    release when you unbind from it, like when you reboot your host or
    router. The result is that your host or router that is always powered
    on will retain an leased IP address long after its expiration and which
    could be longer than the idle interval allowed for a free DynDNS
    account. So when I used DynDNS, I preferred using the IP updater client
    configured for 15-day updates (it'll report immediately on an IP address
    change). Because the IP updater connects to DynDNS to update your free
    account there, they know the IP address of your host or router that
    connected to them. That's how they know what is your IP address to
    record into your DynDNS account.



    (no free accounts)
     
  10. "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    news:NcKdnY0ujPkRIlzXnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hi,
    > AOL in the UK don't offer static IP address's. How can I have a static IP
    > address on my broadband connection with AOL? I want the static IP to go to
    > my Draytek Router so that I can remotely log in to the network using the
    > routers vpn system.
    > Cheers
    > Lenny<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    You basically don't. The are not needed, and are often a needless expense
    when they are available.

    What you do instead is use something called Dynamic DNS.

    You can get free DYNDNS accounts and clients with a very small amount of
    googling.

    HTH
    -pk
     
  11. "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    news:L5SdnWqJzZ_SflzXnZ2dnUVZ8kOdnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Hi,
    > Yes, I have used the same one but you need to put the software on the
    > computer for it to link to. I am trying to get the ip to point to the
    > router only so I can have access across the LAN.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    Some routers come with DYNDNS functions. It's probably cheaper to replace
    yours with one that does, than to pay for the fixed IP.

    HTH
    -pk
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    > "David" <david.colliver.NEWS@revilloc.REMOVETHIS.com> wrote in message
    > news:%23ZmD97NQKHA.1268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >> I am not sure with AOL as I thought AOL changed your IP very quickly
    >> (though that could be their proxy system), but with many other dynamic IP
    >> providers, you can have a dynamic DNS set up.
    >>
    >> The one I use is dyndns.org but there are many others.
    >>
    >> Basically, you choose a sub-domain and then configure your router to use
    >> that, so for example, you could have lenny.dyndns.org (or any other
    >> higher level domain name they own, such as gotdns.org)
    >>
    >> That way, you just simply connect to your chosen domain name, e.g.
    >> lenny.dyndns.org
    >>
    >> Have a look on google for dynamic dns. You will probably find many.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Best regards,
    >> Dave Colliver.
    >>
    >> ~~
    >>
    - Local franchises available
    >> "lenny109" <lenny@thetakeout.com> wrote in message
    >> news:NcKdnY0ujPkRIlzXnZ2dnUVZ8t2dnZ2d@pipex.net...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Hi,
    >>> AOL in the UK don't offer static IP address's. How can I have a static
    >>> IP address on my broadband connection with AOL? I want the static IP to
    >>> go to my Draytek Router so that I can remotely log in to the network
    >>> using the routers vpn system.
    >>> Cheers
    >>> Lenny
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >>
    >><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
  12. lenny109

    lenny109 Guest

    great answers. Job done. Thanks. no-ip.org.

    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
    news:h9tsja$77k$1@news.albasani.net...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > lenny109 wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> AOL in the UK don't offer static IP address's. How can I have a static IP
    >> address on my broadband connection with AOL? I want the static IP to go
    >> to
    >> my Draytek Router so that I can remotely log in to the network using the
    >> routers vpn system.<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    > You included the microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general newsgroup.
    > How is this an issue with any web browser?
    >
    > AOL doesn't give you a static IP address. You want AOL to give you a
    > static IP address. See the illogic in your question? You already knew
    > the answer. That it isn't an answer you like doesn't change that it is
    > their answer. If you want AOL to give you a static IP address, you'll
    > probably have to go beyond a personal account and pay for it. So have
    > you called AOL to inquire about the additional charge to upgrade away
    > from a personal-use account to a business account that gives you a
    > static IP address?
    >
    > Why do you need a static IP address to find your host from the outside?
    > You can continue using a dynamically assigned IP address and use that to
    > connect to your host (or WAN-side of your router). The problem is
    > knowing and remembering what is your current dynamic IP address. You
    > can use DynDNS or No-IP to locate your host. You run an IP updater
    > client on your host that reports your current IP address to your DynDNS
    > account. You give your host/router a hostname in your DynDNS account.
    > When you use <yourhost>.dyndns.com for your host, their nameserver does
    > the lookup to find what your host last reported as its current IP
    > address and returns that IP address to you. So you use DynDNS with an
    > IP *name* (instead of an IP address) to find your host. It will be
    > easier to remember an IP name than an IP address, even for a static IP
    > address.
    >
    > While some routers have built-in clients to report their WAN-side IP
    > address to some DNS lookup services, like DynDNS, they don't often work
    > well. For example, free DynDNS accounts require that you access them
    > within a 28-day interval to prevent your account from expiring. Their
    > IP updater client will update long before that (it can be configured but
    > don't go too short since they consider that abuse). Routers often only
    > update your DynDNS account *if* there has been a change in their
    > WAN-side IP address. If you have a broadband connection, IP leases
    > expires maybe after 3 days but they remain allocated until your
    > host/router unbinds from that IP address. Expiration doesn't mean
    > immediate termination. It just means that IP address is *eligible* for
    > release when you unbind from it, like when you reboot your host or
    > router. The result is that your host or router that is always powered
    > on will retain an leased IP address long after its expiration and which
    > could be longer than the idle interval allowed for a free DynDNS
    > account. So when I used DynDNS, I preferred using the IP updater client
    > configured for 15-day updates (it'll report immediately on an IP address
    > change). Because the IP updater connects to DynDNS to update your free
    > account there, they know the IP address of your host or router that
    > connected to them. That's how they know what is your IP address to
    > record into your DynDNS account.
    >
    >
    >

    >
    (no free accounts) <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     

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