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Discussion in 'Networking' started by Yomamasfeet, Jan 29, 2021.

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  1. Tony D

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    A ping is generated from one device and returned from another.
    I take it you ping'd from your laptop. Where did you ping to?
     
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    In command I did "ping www.google.com -l -s 1480" I think it was...the -l and -s I don't exactly recall but I was doing the MTU test correctly I know and changing that 1480 number up/down.
    The 4 packets came back in that range pretty consistently.

    Tonight it's been really bad. 150 ping all night. Yet able to stream any video at full 50 speed. An Xbox network test showed 150 ping 11% packet loss.
    I noticed the Ethernet cable was a bit loose into the box so I changed it out.
    But still, I have same issues when on wifi just slower speeds. So I don't think it's hardware related...
    Going to try and find a time to hardwire into modem and see what happens. Ugh.
    Edit: I changed the cable, restarted router. played a game and had low latency but packet loss notifications up often. Played another game and 45-50 ping no packet loss. It's so inconsistent!!
    Also, most every speedtest.net shows 20-25ms of jitter. Whatever that is.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification on your pint.
    Sounds like your ISP. Others have also suggested your ISP.

    I don't know that changing the MTU will affect the ping result. There's not enough info in the packet to make a difference.

    Try pinging your router. That would rule out external variables (your ISP). You'll need the IP address of your Gateway. Find that by using the ipconfig command. The Gateway address will be in the form of 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x or 172.x.x.x.. The ping should be in the 1 - 3 ms range.
     
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    here you go.
     

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    There’s some hiccups in there as you can tell. I don’t know if enough to cause the lag you’re experiencing.
     
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    Sorry, above was wifi but when plugged into the same cat5 as the Xbox would be, I get <1ms responses for 10-12 or so times, then around 10 times of "request timed out". Then the process repeats itself. Sometimes will have 20 of good <1ms pings then a string of 3-5 "request timed out".

    When surfing the internet this way, some pages don't load while others do.
    Seems like the router is providing inconsistent connection?? Unless this is what throttling looks like.
     
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    Sorry for spam. Still so appreciative for your time and helpful considerations.

    I think I've isolated the issue as mentioned above with timeout requests aka internet drops as I understand them to be.

    I took the laptop with the same cat5 that goes into my 2nd router and went down to the first router with it.
    I plugged into router and ran same ping 192.168.1.1 -t test. It's been running for 5 minutes without a single break issue, every reply is <1ms. Repeated this for the wall connection point (all <1ms, no timeouts), and the cat 5 from the wall to the upstairs 2nd router (same good results).

    Connected back up directly into the 2nd router and the timeouts started!!

    Sounds like something in the 2nd router...maybe a setting on the 2nd router that's in bridge mode? Some kind of interference? How do I know it's configuration is correct so that I can receive Ethernet from the 1st router AND keep the 2nd wifi hub for improved wifi signal in this area?
    Thanks
     
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    You're on to something. Maybe it's not your ISP. Might want to try taking the 2nd router out of Bridge mode and use it like a router.

    To do that
    - Connect the cable from the first router to the "Internet" port on the 2nd router.
    - Set the 2nd router to dish out 192.168.0.x addresses. Doing this because the 1st router is assigning 192.168.1.x addresses. We don't want the addresses to conflict.
    - Give the wireless network provided by the 2nd router an SSID that is different from the SSID of the first router's wireless network.
    - Don't forget to disable Bridge mode on the 2nd router.
     
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    I don't seem to know how to get into the bridged Linksys router...I've been trying for 2 days. Lol.
    I guess I could hard reset it but is there another way?

    Also: how to I set it to dish out 192.168.0.x addresses?? Is this going to still allow me to use devices both LAN and WAN on the 2nd router? (Edit: I just change it manually in the local network settings once I'm able to access the bridged router don't I...)
     
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    How did you set it up for bridge mode? You get into the router the same way. If you forgot, then a hard reset will get you back to the beginning. It will also take it out of bridge mode.

    You go into the DHCP settings to set up the pool. It would be in the network settings area. If you want, I can help but I need the make/model of the 2nd router so I can find its user manual.

    Yes, you'll be able to use both LAN and WAN
     
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    I have no idea how I got in before and now I can't. Maybe I turned ON bridge mode late the other night when I meant to make sure it was off or something.

    Doing the hard reset now, if get stuck will let you know. Should be "simple". Linksys ea6350

    Thinking: what if I was never in bridge mode on this 2nd router? I've had a unique WAN SSID on it for a long time bc Everytime I come upstairs I manually switch to "game room 5ghz" which is what I named it when I first installed it. I wanted to keep the wifi ability so I didn't bridge it I bet and did a Cascade.

    If that's the case, will establishing the 192.168.0.x addresses on this still fix what seems to be the issue you think?

    Edit: the default IP address on this router is 10.251.1.1. My main router is 192.168.1.1. I'm good with those two correct!?
    I think when I first set up this whole thing I may have changed the 2nd router to be identical as the 1st (thinking it was necessary to Cascade) but now I'm guessing that was causing interference/dropouts?

    Edit: both 10.251.1.1 and 192.168.0.1 is causing a double NAT error message on the Xbox...?
     
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    You may not have been in bridge mode.

    Not much in the manual I found that talks about what I want to do.

    I think it will. Looking at the manual I found, I think the settings will be in the Connectivity page under the Local Network tab.

    You will have to poke around. Here's the page for my router. See the start address as 192.168.1.2 and the end address as 192.168.1.254? That's what you have to change.

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    Wait, I'm forgetting something. We need to change the IP address of the router first. It needs to be 192.168.0.1. for you. I can't even see how to change that on my own router. The router I have is supplied by Verizon, my ISP. Maybe I can't change it. However, you should be able to do that on a store-bought router.
     
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    Yeah I thought i did change it just now when I made it 192.168.0.1?? But it has the double NAT error message now.
     
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    What did you change to 192.168.0.1?
    And what was it before you changed it to 192.168.0.1?
     
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    under connectivity--local network, under router details I changed the IP address from 10.251.1.1 to 192.168.0.1. I was getting the double NAT error with the 10.251.1.1 IP so thought I'd change it to your recommendation of 192.168.0.1 and it also gives a double NAT error.
     
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    You had a 10. address? I must have missed that. Let me look back over the thread.
     
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    It was a longer post where I did an edit it two between your replies. Probably my fault for not knowing how to operate the thread properly.

    Yes my 2nd router after reset was the 10. one by default.
    The main one has been 192.168.1.1 the whole time
     
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    Just saw this
    If that was true, there was no need to set the 2nd router to 192.168.0.1. The main router was 192.168.1.1. I just didn't want the 2nd router to have the same as the main router. They have to be different. You've accomplished that with the 10.251.1.1 address on the 2nd router. Sorry for the confusion here.
     
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