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Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by Christopher Glenn, Oct 14, 2009.

  1. Christopher Glenn

    Christopher Glenn Guest

    I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    manually).

    Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    (V3.5.3) over a month ago.

    Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.

    Why won't Windows alert me now?
     
    Christopher Glenn, Oct 14, 2009
    #1
  3. MowGreen

    MowGreen Guest

    Christopher Glenn wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    > there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    > manually).
    >
    > Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    > my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    > (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >
    > Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    > about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >
    > Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    The installation of Firefox has no correlation to automatic updating.
    Guessing that this is Windows XP ... suggest you check out the
    WindowsUpdate.log:

    How to read the Windowsupdate.log file


    Scroll all the way to the bottom of the log for the most recent entries.
    What you're looking for is FATAL or WARNING error entries.
    Also, check to see if updates are being regulated. Such an entry will
    look similar to this:

    2009-08-17 07:36:45:739 980 370 DnldMgr Regulation:
    {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    DAA5C9BF-D188-40FE-AF01-DFC72D5D422A is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    download. Sequence 5472 vs AcceptRate 0.


    If/when you locate the most recent entries with FATAL or WARNING errors,
    please post back with the section of the log that contains them.


    In the meantime, you can try running the Fixit here:

    How do I reset Windows Update components?


    Suggest you download and *save* MicrosoftFixit50202.msi
    Once the download completes close *all* open programs and browsers.
    Also, if a 'destructive' antivirus is installed, such as McAfee or
    Norton, strongly suggest that you *temporarily* and *completely* disable
    it to prevent it from interfering with the Fixit's operation.
    If temp disabling the 'destructive' AV is too difficult, then either
    consult their User Guide/Help files or visit their sites.
    Or, you can just clean boot XP -

    How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state


    Once XP is in the clean boot state, with the system connected to the
    net, run MicrosoftFixit50202.msi. Choose it's Default mode first.
    Reboot after it's finished it's operation. If the system still cannot
    detect needed updates, run it again and choose the Aggressive mode.
    Reboot afterwards and see if the system detects updates.


    MowGreen
    ===============
    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    ===============

    banthecheck.com
    "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked"
     
    MowGreen, Oct 14, 2009
    #2
  4. Sue J Thomas

    Sue J Thomas Guest

    Did you set Firefox as your default browser? That could be why.
    Sue
    "Christopher Glenn" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:6fbcd59r715jfrjk8vnut8svgpulfj3kq2@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    > there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    > manually).
    >
    > Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    > my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    > (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >
    > Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    > about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >
    > Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Sue J Thomas, Oct 14, 2009
    #3
  5. Christopher Glenn

    Christopher Glenn Guest

    Yes. Does IE have to be the default browser to allow auto update to
    work?


    On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:57:32 -0400, "Sue J Thomas"
    <sueastro@optonline.net> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Did you set Firefox as your default browser? That could be why.
    >Sue
    >"Christopher Glenn" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    >news:6fbcd59r715jfrjk8vnut8svgpulfj3kq2@4ax.com...<!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    >> there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    >> manually).
    >>
    >> Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    >> my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    >> (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >>
    >> Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    >> about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >>
    >> Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >>
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Christopher Glenn, Oct 14, 2009
    #4
  6. Christopher Glenn

    Christopher Glenn Guest

    I will do this hopefully tomorrow. Unless IE has to be the default
    browser for auto update to work (as in the next post's suggestion).


    On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:02:19 -0700, MowGreen <mowgreen@nowandzen.com>
    wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Christopher Glenn wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    >> there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    >> manually).
    >>
    >> Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    >> my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    >> (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >>
    >> Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    >> about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >>
    >> Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >>
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >The installation of Firefox has no correlation to automatic updating.
    >Guessing that this is Windows XP ... suggest you check out the
    >WindowsUpdate.log:
    >
    >How to read the Windowsupdate.log file
    >
    >
    >Scroll all the way to the bottom of the log for the most recent entries.
    >What you're looking for is FATAL or WARNING error entries.
    >Also, check to see if updates are being regulated. Such an entry will
    >look similar to this:
    >
    >2009-08-17 07:36:45:739 980 370 DnldMgr Regulation:
    >{9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >DAA5C9BF-D188-40FE-AF01-DFC72D5D422A is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    >download. Sequence 5472 vs AcceptRate 0.
    >
    >
    >If/when you locate the most recent entries with FATAL or WARNING errors,
    >please post back with the section of the log that contains them.
    >
    >
    >In the meantime, you can try running the Fixit here:
    >
    >How do I reset Windows Update components?
    >
    >
    >Suggest you download and *save* MicrosoftFixit50202.msi
    >Once the download completes close *all* open programs and browsers.
    >Also, if a 'destructive' antivirus is installed, such as McAfee or
    >Norton, strongly suggest that you *temporarily* and *completely* disable
    >it to prevent it from interfering with the Fixit's operation.
    >If temp disabling the 'destructive' AV is too difficult, then either
    >consult their User Guide/Help files or visit their sites.
    >Or, you can just clean boot XP -
    >
    >How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
    >
    >
    >Once XP is in the clean boot state, with the system connected to the
    >net, run MicrosoftFixit50202.msi. Choose it's Default mode first.
    >Reboot after it's finished it's operation. If the system still cannot
    >detect needed updates, run it again and choose the Aggressive mode.
    >Reboot afterwards and see if the system detects updates.
    >
    >
    >MowGreen
    >===============
    > *-343-* FDNY
    >Never Forgotten
    >===============
    >
    >banthecheck.com
    >"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked"<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Christopher Glenn, Oct 14, 2009
    #5
  7. Harry Johnston [MVP]

    Harry Johnston [MVP] Guest

    Christopher Glenn wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Yes. Does IE have to be the default browser to allow auto update to
    > work?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->

    No. Which operating system are you using? How is the Automatic Updates (or
    Windows Update) control panel configured?

    Harry.


    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >
    >
    > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:57:32 -0400, "Sue J Thomas"
    > <sueastro@optonline.net> wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Did you set Firefox as your default browser? That could be why.
    >> Sue
    >> "Christopher Glenn" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    >> news:6fbcd59r715jfrjk8vnut8svgpulfj3kq2@4ax.com...<!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    >>> there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    >>> manually).
    >>>
    >>> Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    >>> my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    >>> (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >>>
    >>> Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    >>> about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >>>
    >>> Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Oct 14, 2009
    #6
  8. Tae Song

    Tae Song Guest

    "Christopher Glenn" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    news:6fbcd59r715jfrjk8vnut8svgpulfj3kq2@4ax.com...<!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    > there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    > manually).
    >
    > Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    > my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    > (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >
    > Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    > about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >
    > Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >
    ><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->


    Windows Automatic Update is a separate service from web browsers.

    You might check Control Panel to see what Windows Update settings.

    I have Firefox 3.5.3 and have no problems with Window Automatic Update on
    Windows VIsta and VII, 32-bit or 64-bit.
     
    Tae Song, Oct 15, 2009
    #7
  9. Christopher Glenn

    Christopher Glenn Guest

    Sorry for the delay...out of town until this AM.

    I use Win XP Pro. I have WU set to automatically download but "let me
    choose when to install them."


    On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:13:35 +1300, "Harry Johnston [MVP]"
    <harry@scms.waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Christopher Glenn wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Yes. Does IE have to be the default browser to allow auto update to
    >> work?<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >No. Which operating system are you using? How is the Automatic Updates (or
    >Windows Update) control panel configured?
    >
    > Harry.
    >
    >
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >>
    >>
    >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:57:32 -0400, "Sue J Thomas"
    >> <sueastro@optonline.net> wrote:
    >> <!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> Did you set Firefox as your default browser? That could be why.
    >>> Sue
    >>> "Christopher Glenn" <no@email.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:6fbcd59r715jfrjk8vnut8svgpulfj3kq2@4ax.com...
    >>>> I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    >>>> there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    >>>> manually).
    >>>>
    >>>> Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    >>>> my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    >>>> (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >>>>
    >>>> Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    >>>> about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >>>>
    >>>> Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >>>>
    >>>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc--><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Christopher Glenn, Oct 16, 2009
    #8
  10. Christopher Glenn

    Christopher Glenn Guest

    Below is where the WARNING and FATAL messages started. But I think I
    installed Firefox before that, but I'm not sure. This is one set of
    very similar sets on days when WU failed. This happened on Oct 5, 6,
    10, and 11. It did not happen on Oct 7 and 8 where the log said "no
    updates detected."


    2009-10-05 19:41:56:006 1088 7f8 AU #############
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:006 1088 7f8 AU ## START ##
    AU: Search for updates
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:006 1088 7f8 AU #########
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 7f8 AU <<## SUBMITTED
    ## AU: Search for updates [CallId =
    {4E645746-C76F-4625-95E4-5FF0C03CD76B}]
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent *************
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent ** START **
    Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent *********
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent * Online =
    Yes; Ignore download priority = No
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent * Criteria =
    "IsHidden=0 and IsInstalled=0 and DeploymentAction='Installation' and
    IsAssigned=1 or IsHidden=0 and IsPresent=1 and
    DeploymentAction='Uninstallation' and IsAssigned=1 or IsHidden=0 and
    IsInstalled=1 and DeploymentAction='Installation' and IsAssigned=1 and
    RebootRequired=1 or IsHidden=0 and IsInstalled=0 and
    DeploymentAction='Uninstallation' and IsAssigned=1 and
    RebootRequired=1"
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent * ServiceID
    = {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent * Search
    Scope = {Machine}
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:693 1088 f1c Misc Validating
    signature for
    C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
    2009-10-05 19:41:56:928 1088 f1c Misc Microsoft
    signed: Yes
    2009-10-05 19:42:07:490 1088 7f8 AU ###########
    AU: Uninitializing Automatic Updates ###########
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:381 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    WinHttp: IsFileToBeDownloaded failed with 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:381 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:381 1088 f1c Misc Validating
    signature for
    C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc Microsoft
    signed: Yes
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed.
    error 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc Validating
    signature for
    C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\WuRedir\9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77\muv3wuredir.cab:
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Misc Microsoft
    signed: Yes
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed.
    error 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Setup FATAL:
    IsUpdateRequired failed with error 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Setup WARNING:
    SelfUpdate: Default Service: IsUpdateRequired failed: 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Setup WARNING:
    SelfUpdate: Default Service: IsUpdateRequired failed, error =
    0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Agent * WARNING:
    Skipping scan, self-update check returned 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent * WARNING:
    Exit code = 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent *********
    2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent ** END **
    Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
    2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent *************
    2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent WARNING: WU
    client failed Searching for update with error 0x80004004
    2009-10-05 19:42:12:818 1088 7f8 Service *********
    2009-10-05 19:42:12:818 1088 7f8 Service ** END **
    Service: Service exit [Exit code = 0x240001]
    2009-10-05 19:42:12:818 1088 7f8 Service *************



    On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:02:19 -0700, MowGreen <mowgreen@nowandzen.com>
    wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    >Christopher Glenn wrote:
    ><!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    >> there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    >> manually).
    >>
    >> Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    >> my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    >> (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >>
    >> Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    >> about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >>
    >> Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >>
    >> <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >
    >The installation of Firefox has no correlation to automatic updating.
    >Guessing that this is Windows XP ... suggest you check out the
    >WindowsUpdate.log:
    >
    >How to read the Windowsupdate.log file
    >
    >
    >Scroll all the way to the bottom of the log for the most recent entries.
    >What you're looking for is FATAL or WARNING error entries.
    >Also, check to see if updates are being regulated. Such an entry will
    >look similar to this:
    >
    >2009-08-17 07:36:45:739 980 370 DnldMgr Regulation:
    >{9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >DAA5C9BF-D188-40FE-AF01-DFC72D5D422A is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    >download. Sequence 5472 vs AcceptRate 0.
    >
    >
    >If/when you locate the most recent entries with FATAL or WARNING errors,
    >please post back with the section of the log that contains them.
    >
    >
    >In the meantime, you can try running the Fixit here:
    >
    >How do I reset Windows Update components?
    >
    >
    >Suggest you download and *save* MicrosoftFixit50202.msi
    >Once the download completes close *all* open programs and browsers.
    >Also, if a 'destructive' antivirus is installed, such as McAfee or
    >Norton, strongly suggest that you *temporarily* and *completely* disable
    >it to prevent it from interfering with the Fixit's operation.
    >If temp disabling the 'destructive' AV is too difficult, then either
    >consult their User Guide/Help files or visit their sites.
    >Or, you can just clean boot XP -
    >
    >How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
    >
    >
    >Once XP is in the clean boot state, with the system connected to the
    >net, run MicrosoftFixit50202.msi. Choose it's Default mode first.
    >Reboot after it's finished it's operation. If the system still cannot
    >detect needed updates, run it again and choose the Aggressive mode.
    >Reboot afterwards and see if the system detects updates.
    >
    >
    >MowGreen
    >===============
    > *-343-* FDNY
    >Never Forgotten
    >===============
    >
    >banthecheck.com
    >"Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked"<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Christopher Glenn, Oct 16, 2009
    #9
  11. Harry Johnston [MVP]

    Harry Johnston [MVP] Guest

    Christopher,

    If the error messages don't continue to appear, I'd guess that MowGreen's
    suggestions have fixed the problem. You'll have to wait and see whether next
    month's updates are offered to you automatically or not. :)

    Harry.

    Christopher Glenn wrote:
    <!--coloro:blue--><span style="color:blue <!--/coloro-->
    > Below is where the WARNING and FATAL messages started. But I think I
    > installed Firefox before that, but I'm not sure. This is one set of
    > very similar sets on days when WU failed. This happened on Oct 5, 6,
    > 10, and 11. It did not happen on Oct 7 and 8 where the log said "no
    > updates detected."
    >
    >
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:006 1088 7f8 AU #############
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:006 1088 7f8 AU ## START ##
    > AU: Search for updates
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:006 1088 7f8 AU #########
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 7f8 AU <<## SUBMITTED
    > ## AU: Search for updates [CallId =
    > {4E645746-C76F-4625-95E4-5FF0C03CD76B}]
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent *************
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent ** START **
    > Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent *********
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent * Online =
    > Yes; Ignore download priority = No
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent * Criteria =
    > "IsHidden=0 and IsInstalled=0 and DeploymentAction='Installation' and
    > IsAssigned=1 or IsHidden=0 and IsPresent=1 and
    > DeploymentAction='Uninstallation' and IsAssigned=1 or IsHidden=0 and
    > IsInstalled=1 and DeploymentAction='Installation' and IsAssigned=1 and
    > RebootRequired=1 or IsHidden=0 and IsInstalled=0 and
    > DeploymentAction='Uninstallation' and IsAssigned=1 and
    > RebootRequired=1"
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent * ServiceID
    > = {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77}
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:068 1088 f1c Agent * Search
    > Scope = {Machine}
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:693 1088 f1c Misc Validating
    > signature for
    > C:WINDOWSSoftwareDistributionWuRedir9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77muv3wuredir.cab:
    > 2009-10-05 19:41:56:928 1088 f1c Misc Microsoft
    > signed: Yes
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:07:490 1088 7f8 AU ###########
    > AU: Uninitializing Automatic Updates ###########
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:381 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    > WinHttp: IsFileToBeDownloaded failed with 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:381 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    > WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:381 1088 f1c Misc Validating
    > signature for
    > C:WINDOWSSoftwareDistributionWuRedir9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77muv3wuredir.cab:
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc Microsoft
    > signed: Yes
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    > WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed.
    > error 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    > WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    > WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:412 1088 f1c Misc Validating
    > signature for
    > C:WINDOWSSoftwareDistributionWuRedir9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77muv3wuredir.cab:
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Misc Microsoft
    > signed: Yes
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    > WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation MakeRequest failed.
    > error 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    > WinHttp: SendRequestToServerForFileInformation failed with 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Misc WARNING:
    > WinHttp: ShouldFileBeDownloaded failed with 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Setup FATAL:
    > IsUpdateRequired failed with error 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Setup WARNING:
    > SelfUpdate: Default Service: IsUpdateRequired failed: 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Setup WARNING:
    > SelfUpdate: Default Service: IsUpdateRequired failed, error =
    > 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:11:428 1088 f1c Agent * WARNING:
    > Skipping scan, self-update check returned 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent * WARNING:
    > Exit code = 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent *********
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent ** END **
    > Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = AutomaticUpdates]
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent *************
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:12:615 1088 f1c Agent WARNING: WU
    > client failed Searching for update with error 0x80004004
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:12:818 1088 7f8 Service *********
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:12:818 1088 7f8 Service ** END **
    > Service: Service exit [Exit code = 0x240001]
    > 2009-10-05 19:42:12:818 1088 7f8 Service *************
    >
    >
    >
    > On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:02:19 -0700, MowGreen <mowgreen@nowandzen.com>
    > wrote:
    > <!--coloro:green--><span style="color:green <!--/coloro-->
    >> Christopher Glenn wrote:
    >><!--coloro:darkred--><span style="color:darkred <!--/coloro-->
    >>> I have used IE for years and know about the systray icon that says
    >>> there are updates (I have it set to alert me, so I can do it
    >>> manually).
    >>>
    >>> Having given up on IE (still installed, IE6 on this computer, IE7 on
    >>> my other - this happens on both computers), I installed Firefox
    >>> (V3.5.3) over a month ago.
    >>>
    >>> Since then, no auto update icon at all. I manually went to WU to find
    >>> about 7 security updates, plus others, totalling 12 critical updates.
    >>>
    >>> Why won't Windows alert me now?
    >>>
    >>><!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    >> The installation of Firefox has no correlation to automatic updating.
    >> Guessing that this is Windows XP ... suggest you check out the
    >> WindowsUpdate.log:
    >>
    >> How to read the Windowsupdate.log file
    >>
    >>
    >> Scroll all the way to the bottom of the log for the most recent entries.
    >> What you're looking for is FATAL or WARNING error entries.
    >> Also, check to see if updates are being regulated. Such an entry will
    >> look similar to this:
    >>
    >> 2009-08-17 07:36:45:739 980 370 DnldMgr Regulation:
    >> {9482F4B4-E343-43B6-B170-9A65BC822C77} - Update
    >> DAA5C9BF-D188-40FE-AF01-DFC72D5D422A is "Priority" regulated and can NOT
    >> download. Sequence 5472 vs AcceptRate 0.
    >>
    >>
    >> If/when you locate the most recent entries with FATAL or WARNING errors,
    >> please post back with the section of the log that contains them.
    >>
    >>
    >> In the meantime, you can try running the Fixit here:
    >>
    >> How do I reset Windows Update components?
    >>
    >>
    >> Suggest you download and *save* MicrosoftFixit50202.msi
    >> Once the download completes close *all* open programs and browsers.
    >> Also, if a 'destructive' antivirus is installed, such as McAfee or
    >> Norton, strongly suggest that you *temporarily* and *completely* disable
    >> it to prevent it from interfering with the Fixit's operation.
    >> If temp disabling the 'destructive' AV is too difficult, then either
    >> consult their User Guide/Help files or visit their sites.
    >> Or, you can just clean boot XP -
    >>
    >> How to configure Windows XP to start in a "clean boot" state
    >>
    >>
    >> Once XP is in the clean boot state, with the system connected to the
    >> net, run MicrosoftFixit50202.msi. Choose it's Default mode first.
    >> Reboot after it's finished it's operation. If the system still cannot
    >> detect needed updates, run it again and choose the Aggressive mode.
    >> Reboot afterwards and see if the system detects updates.
    >>
    >>
    >> MowGreen
    >> ===============
    >> *-343-* FDNY
    >> Never Forgotten
    >> ===============
    >>
    >> banthecheck.com
    >> "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked"<!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
    > <!--colorc--><!--/colorc-->
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Oct 17, 2009
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